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    Help with a 29er Hardtail for Trails

    Hi all

    I'm looking for a bit of help on choosing a bike. I will be using it for riding on the roads for about 10 miles sometimes to get to the trails, and then going up and down single/technical tracks. The trails aren't too heavy going but there will be little drop offs and possibly even small jumps. Based on what I want to use it for I have pretty much decided upon a hardtail 29er, would you say that is the right choice for what I want to use it for? I also want something that will go up the hills well, but will be able to survive a knock or two on the way down. I won’t be using it for racing more for fun, so a compromise between weight and strength is need I think. Based on this I have been looking at the Kona Kahuna, Giant XTC (Not composite) and the Specialised stumpjumper comp/carve. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what would be the best to get based on what I want to use it for, or perhaps another bike with a better spec but similar'ish price.

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    Check out your lbs, (local bike shops) Ande see what brands they carry, that will help you. I just went through the same thing with a new bike, and ultimately chose a cannondale trail sl 4 29er. If your interested I can give you the details why. But see of that brand is available to you locally. I choose based on what my lbs carried for ease of help / advice / repair.

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    I have a giant Xtc29er aluminum frame build with all xt components and love it. But honestly, you might want to consider a bike with 26 inch wheels for what you want to do. Most 26ers will be a little more playfull on jumps and drop offs. The 29er would be better for the paved commute to the trail, but the big wheels like to stay glued to the ground. You also will need to really consider your tire choice. The paved roads will tear up expensive tires extremely fast.

    I think you should maybe test ride a friends bike on your planned ride to see the actual trail conditions. I love 29ers and haven't touched my 26ers in a long time...but I'm more into XC style riding. Each wheel size serves a purpose and It really comes down to what majority of your ride consists of.

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    I was looking for something similar to you and after extensive research settled on the Banshee Paradox with a comp build kit from jenson usa. It is my first 29er and i wanted something fun, flikable and aggresive but also wanted the advantages of the big wheels as i ride on the road allot and do some racing. There are only a hand full of bikes that seem to have really nailed this using slacker head tube angles and shorter chain stays to make a 29er that rides like its smaller wheeled brothers.

    The banshee of course as well as the Canfield Yelli / Nimble 9 and Kona Honzo also get great reviews. There are a couple options from smaller manufacturers in the category as well such as the Chromag Surface, Four Horse, surley Karatey Monkey. All are extensively reviewed on these forums so have a look around.

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    I just built up a Kona Unit with gears, which looks to have similar geometry to the Kahuna. Nice bike, feels really solid. Not going to hit any big jumps with a 100mm fork, but feel comfortable taking drop offs. It's heavy, but feels more flickable than my scandium Salsa that it replaced. (as much as a 29er can) The Kahuna may be lighter depending on the parts.

    The Kona Taro has a longer travel fork, fwiw. It's the alum. version of the Honzo and about $600 cheaper...
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    Don't think you can go wrong with either the Carve or Stumpjumper.
    Geologist by trade...bicycle mechanic (former) by the grace of God!

    2012 Specialized Stumpy EVO 29 HT

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    The two bikes I would look at in your location aren't yet available to me directly but will ship to Scotland.
    The aluminum and carbon 29s from Canyon direct sale.
    Gr Canyon AL 29 7.9 and my first choice the CF SLX 29 8.9.
    Here's some info--
    Eurobike 2011 Demo Day Report: Canyon "Grand Canyon AL 29"
    Canyon Presents 2013 CF SLX Carbon Hard Tail 29"ers
    The cf has just started shipping and is sold out until February, so no user reviews yet. But the price is good and the bike was raced last summer by the Topeak/Ergon team in the multi-day TramsAlp where the two bike team finished first. The bike then raced the Leadville 100 in Colorado for a win. I would go with that bike.
    Canyon | Mountainbikes | Grand Canyon CF SLX 29 8.9
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    When i said drop offs/jumps i meant like a couple of feet tops, there does seem to be alot of people raving about the yelli and the paradox though, i just wonder if there going to be over kill for what I'd do. But on the other hand i don't want that looming thought of 'should i go down that' or 'I'll avoid that bit', like i said i don't want to race, I don't have a car so need to ride to the trails, and once there i want to tear around without the fear of breaking the bike.

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    You won't break a bike with a 6 year warranty that was run for a 100 miles non-stop in the Rockies at Leadville. It was developed for trails. It is also light for uphill at 10.5kg/23lbs.
    Here's a video to show how strong carbon frames are. when properly built.
    Pinkbike Visits The Santa Cruz Test Lab Video - Pinkbike

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    Kona has a lifetime frame warranty, just sayin'..

    But I'd agree with J Hartman, check out local bikes that you can ride. It's the only way to really know...
    I went so far as to rent a bike from my LBS for a couple of days. They deducted that amount from the frame that I ultimately purchased from them. If your LBS does this, I'd recommend...

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    No mention of a Cannondale Flash 1 Carbon 29er? Pretty sweet ride and eats hills!

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    Giant XTC (Not composite) - why not?
    No, YOU don't understand. You're making an ass of yourself for all of eternity.

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    Cant afford it ..., I'm a student at University so trying to keep the cost down to about £800 so probably looking second hand.

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    What do you think to the On one scandal?, would they be capable of dealing with small drop offs and rough terrain (small rocks, roots etc). Also it looks amazing in race in green ...

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    That comes with a rigid fork and a steep ht angle of 72. The ht angle makes for "hyper" or twitchy steering at times. You have to stay on top of this or you will lose confidence in bumpy downhill runs as the speed goes up. The Canyon AL 7.9 has the best geo out there and the seat stays are engineered with vertical compliance. Something only carbon frames usually have.(Cannondale has them but not the geo) Holidays are coming so see if someone can supplement your budget.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surferbruce View Post
    No CF, I have the AL29 8.9. Been riding it for about 6 months now and love it. The geometry is superb
    It is worth it to get the right geo.

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    what a debate all over the world....I have been reading blogs and reviews for the past 3 weeks, as i am MTN Bike guide and have a 26' FS for this job, as we have some aggressive mtn trails etc...however I have just purchased a Avanti (NZ Made) 29 carbon HT. Like you u05re0 the options for a range of trails is endless, but for XC riding the new technology of 29 HT's is awesome...so am looking forward to ist arrival "today".. fitness and riding style aside, if you are planning to ride 2 -3 hour rides 26 FS or 29FS may be a good option for you...make sure they set it up as a mountain bike not a roadie...we see a lot of that here!!!!!

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    I know of a nice used kahuna for sale for $1000. 2011 I think...

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    I don't have a hardtail but three of the guys in my Sunday morning group do. One's on an alloy Niner, one's on a Rockhopper and my stepson is on a Kona Kula 2 9.
    All three bikes seem to get through the day without any issues. If you're buying used, shop size more than brand.
    I like turtles

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    The kig Kahuna is an L with x9 build fox float, black Flag wheelset wrapped with Icons. 25lbs is seems. I'm not interested due to too many bikes but seems like a smoking price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoka Hey View Post
    The kig Kahuna is an L with x9 build fox float, black Flag wheelset wrapped with Icons. 25lbs is seems. I'm not interested due to too many bikes but seems like a smoking price?

    Nice deal if the OP is not interested I would be

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAPnTX View Post
    Nice deal if the OP is not interested I would be

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    LOL....can't say that i blame you.

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    This is the link to a FB ad for it. I guess it has Aspens and not Icons. Sorry to be misleading. The bike belongs to someone I know, however I have never checked it out up close. It seems like a very attractive price so that is why I threw it out there. Kind of wish I had a *need* for it.

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    I love my 2012 XTC 1 I have had it for 6 months the only things that I changed we personal preferences. I changed the seat to a WTB silvarado team, and the Handle bar to a Haven Carbon. The bike is fast, and goes up hill with ease. It is a Size M and it weights right at 25 lbs with pedals.

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