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    HammerSchtickel!!!!

    ...or 'Schtickel, for short.

    I sent Steve these rough sketches & let him work his magic...the results have been eye-popping!!! I highly recommend this guy as a builder. His has been (by FAR) the most seamless custom process I have EVER had the pleasure of working with.





    I wanted a 29er version of my former bike (Evil Sovereign)...



    How many custom builders can you throw a Hammerschmidt build at & get it totally nailed??!

    Frame is currently at the powder coaters....build pics to follow.

    Enjoy!!!



    How do you like those mitres?







    Nice Beads!





    Taking shape!







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    Stay tuned for build pics.....COMING SOON!
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    Nice! Those are some tidy welds. Very well done.

    I like Steve's work, and ya know, your dimensions are super close to mine.

    That looks like a fun project. Congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    ...your dimensions are super close to mine.
    Dude...seriously, stop copying me


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    What a great project! Looks brick sh!t house tough, very cool indeed.
    .. If I see this bike on display with those GT bars, I am bringing my hacksaw!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Om Flyer
    What a great project! Looks brick sh!t house tough...
    Well...ya know, despite multiple shoulder surgeries...I'm a hucker at heart


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Dude...seriously, stop copying me
    I can't help it. You're too cool.

    Seriously, that will be a very unique and cool rig. I am curious to see how it will all turn out. (None more than you, I am sure.)

    Are you going to run the "Team Dicky Approved" I-9's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    I can't help it. You're too cool.

    Seriously, that will be a very unique and cool rig. I am curious to see how it will all turn out. (None more than you, I am sure.)

    Are you going to run the "Team Dicky Approved" I-9's?
    Hehe...yes, I9's (ss/ bolt on rear/20mm TA front...gordos F&R)

    This was designed around my local trails (east coast REPRESENT!) and riding style (ex-DH'er)...so, maybe not the fit for everyone...but I know what I like


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    I LOVE Steve's work. The little details are SO nice. I really like the brake brace. Sano.
    Just a regular guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~
    I LOVE Steve's work. The little details are SO nice. I really like the brake brace. Sano.
    Perhaps the most underrated custom builder...imho (GT...time for a feature steel fabricator article...). A true scientific artisan


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    29 hucker bike...very cool I can't wait to see it all done
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    Holy poppa wheelie seat tube angle batman....

    cool frame. sorry, but I have to ask, Steve who? I don't recognize the shop pics.

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    At first I was like, "huh?"....

    And then I was like, "oh, yeah!" Very cool bike! Coming together so nice! I'm jealous!
    Grow some food for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    How do you like those mitres?
    they look nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte
    cool frame. sorry, but I have to ask, Steve who? I don't recognize the shop pics.
    Steve Stickel...aka D.F.L. (ByStickel Bicycles; bystickelbicyclesATyahooDOTcom)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte
    Holy poppa wheelie seat tube angle batman.....
    ..umm, yeah. Exactly!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    This was designed around my local trails (east coast REPRESENT!) and riding style (ex-DH'er)...so, maybe not the fit for everyone...but I know what I like
    So you like shortish stays, highish BB's and slackish HTA's.

    We can agree on the above for sure. It seems radically different from the Sultan, but I suppose variety is nice.

    I'd ride that thing in a heart beat out WEST.

    Enjoy.

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    Gonna run the Hammerschmidt with a low stand to climb trail gear and a high cruise to trail gear, or a low stand to climb gear and even lower seated to climb gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Perhaps the most underrated custom builder...imho (GT...time for a feature steel fabricator article...). A true scientific artisan
    I'd be up for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    So you like shortish stays, highish BB's and slackish HTA's.

    We can agree on the above for sure. It seems radically different from the Sultan, but I suppose variety is nice.

    I'd ride that thing in a heart beat out WEST.

    Enjoy.
    I never thought anyone would refer to a 120mm travel HT with a 12" bb as "highish"


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    Who is Steve?

    I can't make out the logo on the 26er downtube. Guess I'm not one of the "in" guys that know this stuff already.

    Looking forward to a report on the Hammerspitzel after you have a few hours riding time on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tl1
    I can't make out the logo on the 26er downtube. Guess I'm not one of the "in" guys that know this stuff already.

    Looking forward to a report on the Hammerspitzel after you have a few hours riding time on it.
    Steve Stickel is the current builder; the 26" bike is an Evil Sovereign


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    Boy this Steve Stickel guy does some super nice work - he sure could use a nice web site.

    Very cool frame jn and awesome work Steve!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Boy this Steve Stickel guy does some super nice work - he sure could use a nice web site.
    Seriously. I told him that 2 years ago.

    I like the top secret cable guides in the last picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding
    I like the top secret cable guides in the last picture.
    It's all part of the mystique!


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    That looks really cool. are you going to use a gravity dropper post?
    Only boring people get bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh_on_the_cape
    That looks really cool. are you going to use a gravity dropper post?
    If by "gravity dropper" you mean a Hope qr to lower my Thomson post...then yes
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    Not bad!

    What are you trying to hide in the last pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime
    What are you trying to hide in the last pic?
    Why...whatever do you mean?


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    That frame seems way overbuilt for a 120mm Reba. Cool idea though and unique build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    If by "gravity dropper" you mean a Hope qr to lower my Thomson stem...then yes
    How will a Hope QR lower your stem?
    Only boring people get bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh_on_the_cape
    How will a Hope QR lower your stem?
    Um...good question.
    Doh!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    That frame seems way overbuilt for a 120mm Reba.
    How so?


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    very nice! a pro bead should look like a row of nickles fit and finnish is outstanding. might i ask what tube set was used for the build.

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    wow! :jealous:

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    very cool. i've been kicking around the idea of building something essentially identical.

    seems that the current crop of 32 mm stanchion 120 t/a forks are borderline acceptable for this application, but if i went the custom frame route i know i'd be thinking how to ensure forward-compatibility. from what i'm hearing, 2010/11 will see a growing trend toward tapered steerer tube forks for anything in the longish A to C category.

    so if i get a frame with the notion that it would be compatible with a 130 or 140 29r fork down the road, then i have to think about getting a 1.5 or 1.5/1.125 head tube...which complicates matters.

    looking fwd to your project updates.

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    Brilliant bike. Major props to you and ByStickel.

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    very cool!

    however, i am sure he has worked so efficiently to get your project done because it makes him vomit every time he has to deal with another annoying question from you

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    very cool!

    however, i am sure he has worked so efficiently to get your project done because it makes him vomit every time he has to deal with another annoying question from you
    Pitiful attempt. Are you too busy building up your homer-mobile to come up with a worthy retort? Schmeckle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Pitiful attempt. Are you too busy building up your homer-mobile to come up with a worthy retort? Schmekel!
    nah...just got back from vacation today. however, it should be noted that I have nominated your forthcoming bike as the Bike of the Week on my rad blahg and as such, I have no doubt it will be the most viewed image on the internet now given the volume of visitors/followers

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    Very nice, JNC. I had heard you had commissioned Steve on a project. Like the design. Totally agree on Steve being one of the better kept secrets in the custom builder world. Easy to work with and a truly enjoyable process. Here is how my second ByStickel came out in November. I like it so much, I put some gears on it this past week so I can enjoy it at even more places!


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    Beautiful bike LoneStar !
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    Wow Lonestar...that's a great looking bike for sure!!!


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    Very nice Lonestar...I useally can't stand these color theme kinda bikes, but yours looks really good.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar
    Very nice, JNC. I had heard you had commissioned Steve on a project. Like the design. Totally agree on Steve being one of the better kept secrets in the custom builder world. Easy to work with and a truly enjoyable process. Here is how my second ByStickel came out in November. I like it so much, I put some gears on it this past week so I can enjoy it at even more places!

    Lonestar, I think your bike looks like sh!t, dont listen to these other toolz trying to make you feel good about your poor choice of part/colors

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    Well, I ditched the blue bash guard shortly after this, but just when I thought I was toning it down, Hambone 'made' me put on some blue caliper inserts on the Hope brakes. I'm pathetic.

    OK, these drawings and pics are nice and all JNC, but the real question is what are you going to put in the headtube badge?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar
    OK, these drawings and pics are nice and all JNC, but the real question is what are you going to put in the headtube badge?

    something black, I'm sure
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    ByStickel rocks

    i had wanted him to build a bike for me a few years back but i think he was taking a sabbatical. i should have waited!

    JNC and Lonestar - great stuff guys!

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    That looks like a grin inducing machine if I ever saw one! Do you know if he makes adult sized versions?


    JNCarpenSchtickel!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar
    Well, I ditched the blue bash guard shortly after this, but just when I thought I was toning it down, Hambone 'made' me put on some blue caliper inserts on the Hope brakes. I'm pathetic.

    OK, these drawings and pics are nice and all JNC, but the real question is what are you going to put in the headtube badge?

    nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Steve Stickel...aka D.F.L. (ByStickel Bicycles; bystickelbicyclesATyahooDOTcom)
    That guy, got it now.

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    24.25 - 24.5" ETT? Hey, that's my size.

    That is a really awesome looking bike jncarpenter. Looks like it's going to be a lot of fun to ride.

    You hit Kingdom Trails much? I've meaning to make it up there. Might have to impose upon you for a test ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmilliron
    24.25 - 24.5" ETT? Hey, that's my size.

    That is a really awesome looking bike jncarpenter. Looks like it's going to be a lot of fun to ride.

    You hit Kingdom Trails much? I've meaning to make it up there. Might have to impose upon you for a test ride!
    Kingdom Trails? Well...despite begin from VT originally...I haven't lived there since college. I currently live in VA (have for the last 15 years)...tho I would be happy to get back north for a bike trip anytime soon

    You're more likely to see me hitting up Pisgah


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    Ah-ha! I was going by your profile. Pisgah makes it even easier to impose on you for a test ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmilliron
    Ah-ha! I was going by your profile. Pisgah makes it even easier to impose on you for a test ride.
    Come to Pisgah and you can visit Steve in person. You really need to look at his work in person. He has a Med demo bike in the works as we speak. He probably could build up that Jabber replacement frame your hunting for too . I think I've been poking on him long enough, that he admitted that he might even have a large demo in the near future.

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    That is a mighty beautiful set of tubes and welds! So unique and it looks very well thought out and executed. Looking forward to the build pics and first ride pics, too.

    OGG
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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Why...whatever do you mean?
    Maybe I am just imagining but isn't there still a couple of blurry spots on the top and down tubes

    I am still stickin to 26ers but this frame has great potential to become a fun 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky
    Come to Pisgah and you can visit Steve in person. You really need to look at his work in person. He has a Med demo bike in the works as we speak. He probably could build up that Jabber replacement frame your hunting for too . I think I've been poking on him long enough, that he admitted that he might even have a large demo in the near future.
    Oh, I've seen his work in person. The white bike posted above lives down the street from me.

    Unfortunately, I ride a large. Something with a 24.5" ETT usually works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime
    Not bad!

    What are you trying to hide in the last pic?
    Judging by the pic earlier in the thread that shows the Hammer thingy mounted, I'm guessing internal routing for it's cable. Rear brake hose getting the same treatment?

    JNC, of everyone's stable that I've witnessed on this forum, your's is the one that I would make my own (given the money) over all of the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyT
    Judging by the pic earlier in the thread that shows the Hammer thingy mounted, I'm guessing internal routing for it's cable. Rear brake hose getting the same treatment...
    Shift cable will be run along the top of the DT (2 o'clock) as illustrated in this mock up:



    JNC, of everyone's stable that I've witnessed on this forum, your's is the one that I would make my own (given the money) over all of the rest.
    ...thanks man, I'm just trying to be like Fo


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter





    ...thanks man, I'm just trying to be like Fo
    Cool, then I will be able to buy them cheap and unused......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmilliron
    Oh, I've seen his work in person. The white bike posted above lives down the street from me.

    Unfortunately, I ride a large. Something with a 24.5" ETT usually works well.
    Same here! He's telling me, hopefully a large demo soon after he finishes the med.

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    You're killin' me...is this thing built yet or not?

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Steve Stickel...aka D.F.L. (ByStickel Bicycles; bystickelbicyclesATyahooDOTcom)
    I assumed you were referring to Steve Garn of Brew Bikes in NC.

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    Really interesting looking bike... would love to ride it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlyontwo
    You're killin' me...is this thing built yet or not?

    Cheers,
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    Some post-PC pics...just waiting on delivery at this point









    Thinking of these decals...



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    Woah that thing looks outta sight! Who is Steve's powdercoater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Woah that thing looks outta sight! Who is Steve's powdercoater?
    No idea...Steve?


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    C-4 labs

    http://www.c4labspc.com/index.html

    Chip KNOWS and CARES about his work. That's rare.

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    I'm really surprised by your color choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Some post-PC pics...just waiting on delivery at this point
    I thought for certain you'd go with matte black...but no, you went gloss!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesenator
    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Some post-PC pics...just waiting on delivery at this point
    I thought for certain you'd go with matte black...but no, you went gloss!
    I swear I asked for matte!


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    That's hot. Can't wait to see it built up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Some post-PC pics...just waiting on delivery at this point


    You are NOT THAT into colours, are you?

    Anyway, it surely ´ll be blast to ride. I´ld love to have ride. Won´t you come to do some trailriding in Switzerland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    ...thanks man, I'm just trying to be like Fo
    good luck with that, poseur

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    Really sweet looking rig! I'm not sure how I missed this one the first time around. I'm looking forward to seeing it built. That fabrication is just gorgeous.
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    that is one sweet rig J, if you get a chance i would like to see a shot of the headtube gusset . very nice work, and the PC looks nice and smooth, no usual orange peel look.

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    The KING!



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    Post shake-down ride shot...a bunch of tweaks left to do, but me likey!



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    saweet!
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    very sweet, served with a side of peanut butter banana and bacon sandwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreater
    very sweet, served with a side of peanut butter banana and bacon sandwich.
    ...just more reflection on the :short-ish: ride tonite;

    WOW

    Empirical Data (as scientifically measured):

    Weight (as pictured): Just neigh of 27 lbs
    SeatStay: 16-5/8" [Enel APPROVED]
    Wheelbase: 42-5/8"


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    Man, that's hawt.
    I LOVE how far back over the rear wheel your seat be.
    That bike's nailed.
    Steve, that's the best I've seen from your hands (out of a lot of goodness). I'll tell the local yokels to look at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    The KING!
    With your usual color scheme, I would have guessed a picture of Johnny Cash!

    Nice looking ride you got there.

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    Wild! What two gear ratios does that give you? The Boone cog looks massive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOK
    With your usual color scheme, I would have guessed a picture of Johnny Cash!

    Nice looking ride you got there.
    Hehe....Steve actually put the picture in before he sent it I am still debating between Johnny Cash (my original pick) and this Elvis

    Quote Originally Posted by jmilliron
    Wild! What two gear ratios does that give you? The Boone cog looks massive.
    I still have to play with the gearing somewhat. The ride last night was without the shifter connected.


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    Looks amazing. On more comment on your seat position, though: does the bike climb comfortably without the front wheel leaving the ground while you are seated?

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    Really really nice jn!!

    Have you juxtaposed it against your old Sov via photoshop yet?

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    That came out very well! The Hammerschmidt certainly makes chainring clearance a non-issue, but I'm afraid we'll need more empirical evidence on your ride reports, such as it's goat-ish climbing abilities and scalded monkey descending traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orkje
    Looks amazing. On more comment on your seat position, though: does the bike climb comfortably without the front wheel leaving the ground while you are seated?
    I haven't had enough time on the bike with the smaller (climbing) gear hooked up to comment, but just tooling around it feels more balanced than not.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Really really nice jn!!

    Have you juxtaposed it against your old Sov via photoshop yet?
    Not yet...no free time with all the riding I'm doing

    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar
    That came out very well! The Hammerschmidt certainly makes chainring clearance a non-issue, but I'm afraid we'll need more empirical evidence on your ride reports, such as it's goat-ish climbing abilities and scalded monkey descending traits.
    Heading out for another data gathering session right now


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    Quote Originally Posted by Orkje
    Looks amazing. On more comment on your seat position, though: does the bike climb comfortably without the front wheel leaving the ground while you are seated?
    I know J will have more on this, but the theory is that most folks can't grind up the steepest climbs in a 1:1 gear while seated, anyway. The Hammerschmidt opens up the opportunities to remain seated, but when you're on the nastiest pitches - the ones which would cause the front tire to float- you'd end up standing, eliminating the problem.

    Maybe I'm a wuss, but I only get the light-front-end thing on the steepest 22/34 fall-line grinds. Typical 32/34 climbing usually isn't THAT steep.

    That said, a 70 degree seat angle is a little out of the normal range... but the world don't move to the beat of just one drum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L.
    I know J will have more on this, but the theory is that most folks can't grind up the steepest climbs in a 1:1 gear while seated, anyway. The Hammerschmidt opens up the opportunities to remain seated, but when you're on the nastiest pitches - the ones which would cause the front tire to float- you'd end up standing, eliminating the problem.

    Maybe I'm a wuss, but I only get the light-front-end thing on the steepest 22/34 fall-line grinds. Typical 32/34 climbing usually isn't THAT steep.
    Exactly right.

    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L.
    That said, a 70 degree seat angle is a little out of the normal range... but the world don't move to the beat of just one drum...
    Just look at the wheelbase the "compromise" in STA achieves. It feels like a very carvy mini DH bike to me (on the downs, of course....it climbs like a raped goat )


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    OK, here it is with the correct wheels/ tires (I poached the Wolfhounds in an effort to get a ride in before dark the other night) & a 70mm stem instead of the 50mm. I just need a real fork...still leaning towards the U-Turn Reba, but the new 15mm TA Fox looks tempting...if only it had Talas.

    Yet another round of data acquisition coming up







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    Johnny Cash for the win - much beter than Elvis.

    What is the wheelbase again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Johnny Cash for the win - much beter than Elvis.

    What is the wheelbase again?
    It stands at 42.5" (CS is now 16.5")


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    Looks good Jay.

    But I don't care for either of your headbadge choices. I think you should use a picture of next week's American Idol winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Looks good Jay.

    But I don't care for either of your headbadge choices. I think you should use a picture of next week's American Idol winner.
    I have to admit, it was a tough call. Here's a look at a very close second:
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    your bike makes my pants fit tight

    what are the effective gear ratios that you are getting out of that..what size chainring and cog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    I have to admit, it was a tough call. Here's a look at a very close second:
    that is a badazz headbadge...you could make a fortune selling those

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    I just need a real fork...still leaning towards the U-Turn Reba, but the new 15mm TA Fox looks tempting...if only it had Talas.

    Yet another round of data acquisition coming up





    OMG JC That thing is crazy hot....I've got two new 2010 15mm Fox forks coming next week and YES I am pumped....And for FREE to boot.... ,( well one of em is the other is for my boy Sane Fred) they are coming with my new Banshee Paradox (also for FREE. ) And I also got for Sane Fred....JC you are one lucky S.O.B. Can't wait to hear what your thoughts are on this vs. the Wolf....Looking good bro congrats and enjoy...BTW I think the CFo head badge ROCKS... ...CF.

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    A 4 year dream come true

    This is virtually identical to what I envisioned 4 years ago (minus the then unavailable 120mm fork and planetary gears of course): 29er Sovereign

    Well done. Well done indeed.

    Now if only I could afford to build up my super short stayed fully 29er design (I was laid off nine weeks ago and the job market is pretty tight right now to say the least)

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    Quote Originally Posted by powersusa
    This is virtually identical to what I envisioned 4 years ago (minus the then unavailable 120mm fork and planetary gears of course): 29er Sovereign

    Well done. Well done indeed.
    Thanks...if you remember correctly, that was my sovereign in your thread.



    I had already tried the 29" wheels in it at that point....no go.

    Honestly, so far the 'Schtickel is preferable in every way to my Sovereign Just back from another ride & I have to say...I am quite pleased with this bike


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