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    Gravity bikes @ bikesdirect

    I've got $750 in my pocket after last night's sale of one of my bikes. I want a 29er with suspension fork to compliment by SS GT Peace. Was looking at the Motobecane Fantom Pro, but they don't have it in my size. So found the Gravity 29 Point3. I also see Performance bike has there Access 29er XCL fot $700 + shipping. The Gravity has a few nicer features, little better fork, hydraulic brakes, but the Access has Avid BB5, and I love my bikes with BB7's. Wheelset equal. The Gravity has 30sp vs 27, but I'm not sure if I won't just convert to a 2x or 1x in the future anyway.

    So what is everyone's experience with the Gravity bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTFargo View Post
    I've got $750 in my pocket after last night's sale of one of my bikes. I want a 29er with suspension fork to compliment by SS GT Peace. Was looking at the Motobecane Fantom Pro, but they don't have it in my size. So found the Gravity 29 Point3. I also see Performance bike has there Access 29er XCL fot $700 + shipping. The Gravity has a few nicer features, little better fork, hydraulic brakes, but the Access has Avid BB5, and I love my bikes with BB7's. Wheelset equal. The Gravity has 30sp vs 27, but I'm not sure if I won't just convert to a 2x or 1x in the future anyway.

    So what is everyone's experience with the Gravity bikes?
    No experience, but I have read a little about them. I believe they are re-badges of Fuji bikes. I would be a little sceptical on all the parts being used. In other threads people are a little hesitant because of the quality of the frames and the unnamed/generic parts used.

    If you buy, I would also recommend getting it looked at by your LBS to make sure everything is set up correctly. This could cost $50-$100.

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    Ummm, actually most all the parts are specified, WTB Speed Disc wheels, WTB tires, Avid brakes, Sram x-7 shifters and crank, ...

    The only generic stuff is stem, handlebar, seatpost, hubs that I see. Perhaps some of this stuff isn't great, but at least I'm seeing well known names.

    Thanx's for the info on the frame, Fuji is at least well know. I'm assuming that these are from China, along with most frames in this price range, correct?

    Setup I'm not worried about, I've been tearing down bikes for 40 years :-) Yup, I'm an old fart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTFargo View Post
    Ummm, actually most all the parts are specified, WTB Speed Disc wheels, WTB tires, Avid brakes, Sram x-7 shifters and crank, ...

    The only generic stuff is stem, handlebar, seatpost, hubs that I see. Perhaps some of this stuff isn't great, but at least I'm seeing well known names.

    Thanx's for the info on the frame, Fuji is at least well know. I'm assuming that these are from China, along with most frames in this price range, correct?

    Setup I'm not worried about, I've been tearing down bikes for 40 years :-) Yup, I'm an old fart!
    I would assume that the bike was made in china, I would also assume that it was made by Giant manufacturing. But those are all assumptions, ones that could be made of any bike.

    I have a 1200 price point and looking for a 29er as well. I have spent weeks pondering different situations. From building my own, to buying from a LBS. So far I have not found one situation that is better than the others.

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    Check the geometry very carefully to see if it fits your needs.

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    Buddy has one and loves it. I got a Moto 29er couple years back to see if I wanted to really go the 29er route and I still have it. It's has held up just as well as any of the Treks, specialized bikes I have owned. I replaced the cranks with LX parts and the stem with an FSA and got a deal on a carbon seatpost from Easton. It's been a good bike and I still ride it as it's my only HT left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Check the geometry very carefully to see if it fits your needs.
    I hear ya, I've got a spreadsheet of TT, ST, SO, and angles for a bunch of bikes I'm considering. I'm comparing them to my GT Peace 9r SS, that fits me well and I like riding. Of course, there's no direct match and buying off the Net is a crapshoot.

    I see that Niner has their low end EMD for $389, but I figure that it would cost be another grand to set it up. I have a dealer for Niner about 15 miles away, so I could check in with them, but I'm guess it would just confirm my estimate of spending. I'm not sure my riding requires that nice a bike, though I like nice bikes. I have a couple of Salsa road bikes, and appreciate a nice bike. But I figure I'll be dropping and banging this thing around trying to keep up with my 13yo son. The Gravity bike (3 or 4) seem to have decent components and I would hope last me for many years.

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    Bikes from BD will all work just fine and the frames hold up well. I use their 29er outcast frame on my singlespeed bike and it's been able to withstand torture. It starts to get interesting when you decide you want to upgrade components and start to find the seatpost, handlebar, etc sizes are "older" standards. Most of the larger components is where you win with the price you pay but again when (and if) you start to look at the less obvious things (hubs, rings, cables...) that's when you notice the quality start to drop a bit. But as always, it's all relative to what your needs are.

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    I bought the Gravity Point 3 frameset and currently building it. I love the feel of the bike so far. Just as good if not better than my friends Trek Mamba 2011.

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    I bought a Gravity 29er Point 5 frameset with the Reba RL fork from bikeisland and the saying about getting what you paid for is definitely true in my case.
    The 2 issues I have with the frame
    1) The paint sucks and chips really easily.
    2) The rear drop-out spacing on the frame I got was off. Supposed to be 135mm but on mine it measured out to be about 140-141mm so when I mount the wheel I have to squeeze the drop outs together.
    The frame and fork cost $500 shipped and the bike rides good so I'm not really complaining. There is supposedly a 10 year warranty on the frame so if anything happens hopefully I'll be covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Check the geometry very carefully to see if it fits your needs.
    Check the geometry very closely and you will see it is a clone of the Gary Fisher Marlin. Completely identical except the head tube angle is 69.5 on the Gravity and 69.3 on the GF, and of course the Gravity does not have the G2 proprietary fork offset. The handling of the bike may be effected by those 2 differences, but the fit should be identical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Test Dumby View Post
    Check the geometry very closely and you will see it is a clone of the Gary Fisher Marlin. Completely identical except the head tube angle is 69.5 on the Gravity and 69.3 on the GF, and of course the Gravity does not have the G2 proprietary fork offset. The handling of the bike may be effected by those 2 differences, but the fit should be identical.



    Another BD fail, shamelessly copy the frame geo and leave out the most important component of the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadie scum View Post
    Another BD fail, shamelessly copy the frame geo and leave out the most important component of the equation.
    Ummmm, if they tried to copy he proprietary fork offset they would be sued and driven out of business. I would imagine that the slight steerer tube angle variance is a round about way to mimic the fork offset they can't have. Even if BD was willing to copy the G2 fork offset, no suspension manufacturer would make it for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Test Dumby View Post
    Ummmm, if they tried to copy he proprietary fork offset they would be sued and driven out of business. I would imagine that the slight steerer tube angle variance is a round about way to mimic the fork offset they can't have. Even if BD was willing to copy the G2 fork offset, no suspension manufacturer would make it for them.
    That's probably why he thinks its a Fail as he so eloquently put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    That's probably why he thinks its a Fail as he so eloquently put it.
    Yeah, well I guess he's welcome to his opinion. Having not ridden either of the bikes, I can't really comment on wether it works without the special G2 offset, but I haven't really heard complaints about the handling, so I guess it must be ok. And since the 29point2 has far better components that the Marlin for $100 less I can't hardly call it a fail, but to each his own. BD haters are a strange lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadie scum View Post
    Another BD fail, shamelessly copy the frame geo and leave out the most important component of the equation.
    Looks to me like they just spec'ed a 100mm Reba on a frame designed around an 80mm fork. Most folks I know that ride 29ers ride Rebas spaced to 100mm -- 20mm longer than their bikes were spec'ed with.

    Nothing to see here. Move along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Test Dumby View Post
    I can't really comment on wether it works without the special G2 offset, but I haven't really heard complaints about the handling, so I guess it must be ok.
    I haven't ridden these bikes either, but I have heard that some of the elite GF/Trek racers ride swap out their G2 forks for the more common 45-46mm offerings. Perhaps they're moles for BD though.
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    Yeah'yeah' everyone knows someone that knows someone that heard something, you Bd minions crack me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadie scum View Post
    Yeah'yeah' everyone knows someone that knows someone that heard something, you Bd minions crack me up.
    And you BD haters crack me up so I guess I will just move on and let you be you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadie scum View Post
    ..you Bd minions crack me up.
    BD minion -- Me? Never bought from them (him?), and probably never will. Nothing against BD, I'm just not interested in what they have to offer. Lots of haters around though, but hey what's the internet for afterall outside of haters and porn? Thank god for porn.
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    Good job!

    I would say take a look at bikeisland.com.... i bought a fantom 29 with a few scratches on it for $500 with some ridable components on it. rockshox dart3, XT RD, deore FD, truvativ crank, BB5's (none the best, but all very ridable stuff). for $500, i couldnt find a better deal anywhere. I concur the paint on those bikes are definitely sketchy, but i didn't buy it to look at it shimmer in the sun. they sell for less than bikes direct because they are returns damaged in shipping. I'm not a "mole" for BD or bikeisland, but i do want to share my experience buying from them to maybe help you out. I couldnt care less whether you buy from them or not. I've talked to the guy a few times because i had some buyer's remorse while it was in shipment, but he assured me the bike would be in working order with a few scratches that were described before i bought the bike. after having the bike for about a month or so i have ridden it every day... I love it. I decided to convert to 1x9 with a 12-36 rear, and it's nice. those bb5's are the next thing to get upgraded i think. i just can't dial them in. anyway, i don't know your size but heres the link to all their mtb's. seems like you know what kind of components you're looking for... good luck with your search dude!

    http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...es:%20Mountain

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    Checked a bunch of places, and based on what was available in my size (which seems to be sold out alot), I decided on the Gravity 29 Point 4. Figured I'd spring for the slightly better brakes/fork/and some other components. For a NOOB like me, its way better then I need and if in a few years I'm still into mtn biking and this bike is toast, I'll spring for a really nice frame and new components.

    Thanx's for all the insight, both on bikes and dealers

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    I love my 29Point5. I was very close to buying the Trek/Fisher Paragon that was just over $2000. Looking into the components, I settled on the Gravity as it was $1100 with close to the same set up. Other than the seat, seat post, handlebars and stem, this bike is pretty nice. Not that they are bad, they are just heavy and pretty generic. Heck, between the bikes I looked into (Trek, Specialized & Giant), they were all made in China or Taiwan so buying this China made Gravity was not a big deal to me.

    The BD Gravity was to my door in two days. It was shipped from Mesquite Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sw99 View Post
    The BD Gravity was to my door in two days. It was shipped from Mesquite Texas.
    I hope they're that quick to Vermont, but I doubt it. But if its here in about a week, I'll have it in time for that weekend's rides :-)

    Who do they use to ship? Do you get a tracking#?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sw99 View Post
    I love my 29Point5. I was very close to buying the Trek/Fisher Paragon that was just over $2000. Looking into the components, I settled on the Gravity as it was $1100 with close to the same set up. Other than the seat, seat post, handlebars and stem, this bike is pretty nice. Not that they are bad, they are just heavy and pretty generic. Heck, between the bikes I looked into (Trek, Specialized & Giant), they were all made in China or Taiwan so buying this China made Gravity was not a big deal to me.

    The BD Gravity was to my door in two days. It was shipped from Mesquite Texas.
    if I'm not mistaken i think they send the bikes out of Plano but definitely somewhere out of Texas. I know for sure they have to brick and mortar shops here in Houston.

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