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    getting a new aggrressive 29r..looking for feedback

    i have narrowed it down to 3 choices( tallboy ltc..rip 9 rdo..stumpjumper evo) i ride aggressive rough trails here in southern utah. just interested in hearing some opionions. thanks in advance guys

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    They are going to pedal very differently. I suggesting trying to demo each. What works for me or someone else might not for you.
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    I have to agree with the demo suggest, especially in these prices. I demoed a bunch last fall including the Turner Sultan, SC Tallboy LTc and Niner RIP9. Only the Niner "felt good" for me, but there are plenty of others who will sing the praises of the other two.

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    so far i haved tried the evo and it is very good. i am going to try the rip and the tallboy as well but i was just looking for opinions.

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    I don't know that you can go wrong. I have a '10 RIP with a 140mm fork and live in Tucson (lots of techy rock). The only time it's felt overwhelmed was chasing guys on DH bikes down South Mountain in Phoenix. It also pedals like a champ, so I can only imagine that the RDO or the new alloy version will be even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonoranbiker View Post
    I don't know that you can go wrong. I have a '10 RIP with a 140mm fork and live in Tucson (lots of techy rock). The only time it's felt overwhelmed was chasing guys on DH bikes down South Mountain in Phoenix. It also pedals like a champ, so I can only imagine that the RDO or the new alloy version will be even better.
    Thing is while all very good bikes, for different people each one could be very wrong. In my case I bought the SJ as my first 29er without a demo ride because I always had and like Specialized before.

    When my shop got a TBLT in I test rode for fun. After that ride ordered my TBc and sold the SJ after only six months. I'd love to demo a Niner, none to be found in my area. Later this year when I'm back in better shape I'll demo the Spider Comp the shop has.

    Bottom line is no matter what you read on a forum, only you will know which one rides best for you and so I always just say ride them yourself, what we say on here means absolutely nothing when it comes to what someone else will like better.
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    I have a Rip9 RDO & I'm stunned how well it pedals up hill for a 125mm rear travel bike.

    It is super stiff & just awesome down hill & it just stays on line over the ruff so good.
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    Different strokes for different folks. I demoed all three you are looking at and preferred the Evo out of the lot but liked the Sb95 and Spider Comp better than all three.

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    Re: getting a new aggrressive 29r..looking for feedback

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    Different strokes for different folks. I demoed all three you are looking at and preferred the Evo out of the lot but liked the Sb95 and Spider Comp better than all three.
    Perfect example of different stokes. I demoed the SB95 and it was one of my least favorite. BTW - not trying to start a betochfest. Just stating my preference.

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    If you're looking for true aggressive, you've left out a good few top contenders, just saying is all
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    Well who are the few more good contenders

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithrider View Post
    Different strokes for different folks. I demoed all three you are looking at and preferred the Evo out of the lot but liked the Sb95 and Spider Comp better than all three.
    I agree different strokes.

    Where did you find a Rip9 RDO Demo ??
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    eliminate the Evo. im on a TBLTc with a 65mm stem and love it. RIP 9 is a good bike too. shorter stem is a difference maker.

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    Over the edge here in hurricane has one

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    RIP 9 Alu, not the RDO - please excuse my extrapolated performance. I recognize the marginally shorter stays and travel increase would make a subtle difference, but probably not enough to sway me.

    I know several people that swear by the RIPs and Niner makes a great product, just not my cup of tea. The RIP Felt taller and more forward weight biased than the LTC, EVO, SB-95 or Spider Comp This same feel carries over to their hardtails I have ridden as well. It is just Niner's design philosophy from I can tell from my limited experience with the brand. I prefer the ride to feel low with a weight bias further to the rear, ala Species and Yeti's take on most of their rigs.

    Don't take my comment as a knock on the bike, as this feel is preferred by many. That is why it is great to have options from different manufacturers to accomodate different needs. I ended up buying the Spider Comp due to its availability but would have preferred an SB95 carbon if it was out when I was purchasing. That 95 was a great ride in my opinion!

    Having said all that, the new Enduro has intriguing geometry to me and would be where I was looking if I needed more travel. Unfortunately, I, like the poster, was looking for something a little less.

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    Banshee Prime, Kona Satori, Lenz Lunchbox/Behemoth, Transition Covert, Intense Tracer 29, I'd even throw the Trek Rumblefish in there on the milder side.
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    I would love to throw a leg over the Prime as well. Looks like a good bike on paper.

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    Not to hijack, Smith how's the Spider so far? I'm waiting to see if Intense releases it with a Fox 34 Talas 150/120.
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    I wrote a brief review on it in the Intense forum the other day. I am really digging it; very fast bike that likes to get rowdy. IMHO, the head angle would be too slack if you went 150 Talas (didn't know fox made a 150mm 29 talas for aftermarket) on it though. I dropped my Float 34 to 130 to keep the front end low and headangle in check. PM me if you want any specific details.
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    I'll through my 2 cents in the conversation. I demoed the SJ Evo and the TBLT, while both are great bikes, it came down to feel. I opted for the TBLT. I couldn't be happier! The TBLT had that, "in the bike" feel as opposed to , "on the bike feel". This was a huge difference maker for me.

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    The Old Rip9 Alloy is nothing like the New Rip9 RDO so they are not the same or even close to it.

    At my seat height with the same seat & post the Rip9 RDO seat is 15mm closer to the rear axle, if you string line it.

    It is also over a lb lighter, Has 11mm more travel in the rear, Is much stiffer & the CVA isn't the same & neither is the rear shock.



    Quote Originally Posted by smithrider View Post
    RIP 9 Alu, not the RDO - please excuse my extrapolated performance. I recognize the marginally shorter stays and travel increase would make a subtle difference, but probably not enough to sway me.

    I know several people that swear by the RIPs and Niner makes a great product, just not my cup of tea. The RIP Felt taller and more forward weight biased than the LTC, EVO, SB-95 or Spider Comp This same feel carries over to their hardtails I have ridden as well. It is just Niner's design philosophy from I can tell from my limited experience with the brand. I prefer the ride to feel low with a weight bias further to the rear, ala Species and Yeti's take on most of their rigs.

    Don't take my comment as a knock on the bike, as this feel is preferred by many. That is why it is great to have options from different manufacturers to accomodate different needs. I ended up buying the Spider Comp due to its availability but would have preferred an SB95 carbon if it was out when I was purchasing. That 95 was a great ride in my opinion!

    Having said all that, the new Enduro has intriguing geometry to me and would be where I was looking if I needed more travel. Unfortunately, I, like the poster, was looking for something a little less.
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    I have to agree with lb412; short stem makes a difference.

    I'm biased towards my Tallboy LTc. 35mm stem for me. Just had a trip to St-George, Hurricane, Laguna Beach and Moab with the bike. Being in the Canadian Rockies, our trail system is completely different.

    Of note, way faster than my old Nomad. Captain Ahab was a hoot on my LTc.

    Just my biased 0.02...

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    I rode a TBLT and a Yeti SB95. I liked the Yeti better, but i like my Transition Bandit 29 better than either i think (hard to say without back to back rides). It's the 2012 Bandit with 130 rear 140 front travel. The TBLT seemed to feel pretty XC. The yeti didn't feel as plush as i like, but to be fair, it probably had too much air in the susp. for me, it was setup for a friend.

    I'd like to ride a RIP 9, on paper, it doesn't appeal to me. Long rear end, steep geo. But on the trail, that doesn't necessarily mean much. I agree the new enduro looks interesting but too much travel for me. I'm assuming that the next stumpjumper is going to have a much shorter rear end by using the same technology. Could be cool but i don't think i like FSR.

    Bottom line, you gotta ride 'em. Or just pick one and convince yourself that you like it, regardless of the ride quality, which a lot of people do (probably myself included).
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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
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    I'd wait for the daddy, Specialized Enduro Comp 29

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbem View Post
    I'd wait for the daddy, Specialized Enduro Comp 29

    2014 Specialized S-Works Enduro 29 SE - First Look and First Ride - Pinkbike
    That thing is looking absolutely bad ass!!!! Its gonna hurt in the pocket starting at $9,000 USD

    One thing I cant believe is how hokey the cable routing is...

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    Wait another year and they'll have fixed that to ..........

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    I was in a similar situation. It came down to three:

    Foes Shaver 29

    Niner WFO

    Tallboy LT

    My budget wasn't big enough for the first two, which I really wanted, particularly the WFO so i went with the TBLT.
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    I got an EVO not to long ago and though i havent ridden any of these other bikes I can say that its an absolute blast to ride!! It's does pretty decent on climbs, especially if you use the climb setting, and its an absolute beast on downhills. The dropper post is a huge bonus too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbem View Post
    Wait another year and they'll have fixed that to ..........
    Not a chance, they've had that routing for a while. Disliked it on my SJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    I'd even throw the Trek Rumblefish in there on the milder side.
    I dont know about that... mine tries to trip me every time i walk past it. It has a foul mouth and is always telling me how its gona kick my ass. Last weekend it even decided to aim for a rock on a steep section and toss me over the bars!

    Mild? sheesh! I wish.

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