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    Full suspension 29ers in the $1500 price range and sub-30 pounds?

    Just wondering if these bikes exist. I was thinking of buying a slighly used Specialized Camber for $1500, but these bikes are pretty heavy. Wondering if there's something a bit lighter in the same price range. Thanks.

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    New...no

    Used...a lightly used Salsa Spearfish might fit the bill

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    ebay perhaps but otherwise your best bet would be to check the LBS
    i noticed that internet pricing with shipping etc.. is usually not as good as the lbs prices.

    or your only other hope would be bikes direct for an off-name brand

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    Your question got me curious so I hung a few bikes in that range from the scale. Closest I got was a 2012 Scott Spark Team. With pedals/reflectors and all the other "goodies" it was 30lbs 15oz (size L). You can PM me if you care to know the price. I won't break the spam rules here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Your question got me curious so I hung a few bikes in that range from the scale. Closest I got was a 2012 Scott Spark Team. With pedals/reflectors and all the other "goodies" it was 30lbs 15oz (size L). You can PM me if you care to know the price. I won't break the spam rules here.


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    My 2012 Anthem X4 29er FS was $1449 on clearance about a month ago.

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    There's one that I know of that I'd consider for about 250 more and I know for sure if you deal enough with the right SpecialED shop you could pick up a Camber for around 1600 new, other than that if you find one new it'll be a tank, especially if it's Giant.
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    I would say you will not find a new fs 29er that will be less than 30 pounds for $1500. I would say it would be hard to find one for $2K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoots View Post
    ebay perhaps but otherwise your best bet would be to check the LBS
    i noticed that internet pricing with shipping etc.. is usually not as good as the lbs prices.

    or your only other hope would be bikes direct for an off-name brand
    I don't think the Moto FS 29er that BD sells is less than 30 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobonker View Post
    My 2012 Anthem X4 29er FS was $1449 on clearance about a month ago.

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    How much does it weigh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    There's one that I know of that I'd consider for about 250 more and I know for sure if you deal enough with the right SpecialED shop you could pick up a Camber for around 1600 new, other than that if you find one new it'll be a tank, especially if it's Giant.
    How much does a Camber weigh?
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    Didn't weigh them (had both a Medium and Large to assemble for some guys) but were def lighter than my XL Prime which is 33.5lbs, guess maybe somewhere in the 31lb range if I had to.
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    Former Spearfish owner here and with a CB Joplin it was 28lbs. I sold mine about 6 months ago for $1750. If you find the right seller you can definitely find one for $1500. By the way, I loved that bike but I built up a SC Tallboy LTc to replace it.

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    I've heard those Motobecanes come in at around 28lbs, but it's possible that was after some modification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    I've heard those Motobecanes come in at around 28lbs, but it's possible that was after some modification.
    My XO FS Moto 29er weighs 28lbs after new wheels, seat and XT pedals. I'd imagine the $1500 Moto weighs close to 31lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardo View Post
    I'd imagine the $1500 Moto weighs close to 31lbs.
    You are correct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobonker View Post
    My 2012 Anthem X4 29er FS was $1449 on clearance about a month ago.

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    Where did you get that deal? Did you happen to weigh that bike?

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    Motobecane Fantom 29er could be bought brand new for $1599.95 from bikes direct with free shipping and no sales tax unless you live in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Motobecane Fantom 29er could be bought brand new for $1599.95 from bikes direct with free shipping and no sales tax unless you live in Texas.
    I guess I'm not so sure about either Bikes Direct or Motobecane. I feel more comfortable with Giant and Specialized for some reason.

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    Never talked with anyone who has been disappointed with either Bikes Direct or Motobecane. That being said, I would have a little mechanical ability if buying from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanyonTrailJunkie View Post
    I guess I'm not so sure about either Bikes Direct or Motobecane. I feel more comfortable with Giant and Specialized for some reason.
    Understandable.

    I think you'll need to compromise on weight at first - get a good frame with decent components and then swap out the wheels as you get the budget like lardo did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Never talked with anyone who has been disappointed with either Bikes Direct or Motobecane. That being said, I would have a little mechanical ability if buying from them.
    Meaning that you can expect more mechanical repairs buying a Motobecane - doesn't that negate any savings you would have buying this brand in the first place - you may end up actually spending more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanyonTrailJunkie View Post
    Meaning that you can expect more mechanical repairs buying a Motobecane - doesn't that negate any savings you would have buying this brand in the first place - you may end up actually spending more?
    He was referring to assembly and maintenance knowledge. The word repair implies something is broken.

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    If you're looking at Bike Direct, then also look at Airborne, same business model, better looking designs IMHO and parts spec look as good if not better, especially on their new HobGoblin.
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanyonTrailJunkie View Post
    I guess I'm not so sure about either Bikes Direct or Motobecane. I feel more comfortable with Giant and Specialized for some reason.
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    Buying a $4000 new bike used for $1500 is pretty common if you take the time to get the word out that you are looking. Who knows, you could end up with something like this, size Large, 29 pounds, less than 1000 miles...Full suspension 29ers in the 00 price range and sub-30 pounds?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1354155752.202641.jpg

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    Lots of recommendations on this thread that don't meet the OPs wants of:

    1) $1500
    2) less than 30 pounds
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    My sales manager had me ride a Camber around our test track so I could give customers better input on FS (I'm usually on a rigid, or HT). I don't know what it weighs, but it didn't "feel" heavy pedaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Lots of recommendations on this thread that don't meet the OPs wants of:

    1) $1500
    2) less than 30 pounds
    Probably because it doesn't exist (new, at least).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    How much does it weigh?
    29 lbs

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    So the winner is the 2012 Anthem X4 29er if you can get it on clearance wherever Bob got it? I called a shop today and they said that the 2013 Camber's run about $1750, but they are a few pounds lighter than the 2012's but with significantly watered down components.

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    I got it here:
    goride - CLOSEOUTS

    No more Anthem X4s though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanyonTrailJunkie View Post
    Meaning that you can expect more mechanical repairs buying a Motobecane - doesn't that negate any savings you would have buying this brand in the first place - you may end up actually spending more?
    Nope

    Quote Originally Posted by lardo View Post
    He was referring to assembly and maintenance knowledge. The word repair implies something is broken.
    Yup

    This holds true with ordering any bike online.
    Also better figure it in with buying a used bike too.

    Buy a bike from a LBS and usually they will make adjustments for you for free after the purchase and some even have free life time tune ups.

    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Lots of recommendations on this thread that don't meet the OPs wants of:

    1) $1500
    2) less than 30 pounds
    Well, I want world peace, a hot super model who will give in to my every sexual whim and never ***** or complain, and a billion dollars.

    Guess what, I am not going to get any of that.

    That being said, the motobecane is close to 30 lbs.
    Most people who are trying to get a light or super light bike have no idea why nor will they see any difference in their riding. It may make sense to lighten the drive line but worying about the total weight of the bike is pointless. Unless you are a super high end racer, you will never notice a difference. Strava does not record in tenths of a second.
    My current bike is a few pounds heavier than my last but all the components work much more smoothly and I could instantly ride further on it. Go figure.

    Besides, obviously OP is price motivated. He may find a used bike in that range, but parts may be worn and costing more in repairs. Also, lighter parts often sacrifice durability to get the weight down which could also mean more in repair costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    Buying a $4000 new bike used for $1500 is pretty common if you take the time to get the word out that you are looking. Who knows, you could end up with something like this, size Large, 29 pounds, less than 1000 miles...
    Yea, some of the "first gen" 29ers have dropped under the $1500 mark. Ebay demand for the racer x, for example, seems to have waned.

    The second gen bikes are approaching it. I've seen some AnthemX's sell for under $1500. The demand for Jet9's seems to be waning and sometimes touches the $1500 mark as well, though they seem to be more likely to get parted out than the Anthem for whatever reason.

    For the record, I've bought both of these bikes used in the last year. I spent above 1500, but less than 2000 on each. I don't weigh my bikes though, so I couldn't comment on the 30# thing.

    The increasing use of carbon should serve to drive down the cost of used bikes. Initially, making the aluminum ones cheaper, but later the carbon ones themselves, since a lot fewer people are interested in a used carbon bike. Long term though, I don't know what happens. Seems that carbon frames are largely just another method of ensuring planned obsolescence runs faster, and without being impacted as much by that nasty second hand market and resale value.

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    I just weighed a XL Specialized Camber 29er - I was so excited because started price is $1775 (fairly affordable though not within my price range) but guess how much it weighed........33 pounds!!! Man, I doubt they're going to sell many of those.

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    The 2013 Anthem X4 costs about $2,000. Maybe I should wait to buy it on closeout next October?

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    You either need to increase your budget or look used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanyonTrailJunkie View Post
    I just weighed a XL Specialized Camber 29er - I was so excited because started price is $1775 (fairly affordable though not within my price range) but guess how much it weighed........33 pounds!!! Man, I doubt they're going to sell many of those.
    My Transition Bandit 29 with a dropper post was right around 32 IIRC... I don't find the weight to be a problem, but then again I came from a 36lb Pugsley.

    I don't race, though. But in real life, I seem to keep up just fine with people on lighter bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanyonTrailJunkie View Post
    The 2013 Anthem X4 costs about $2,000. Maybe I should wait to buy it on closeout next October?
    Maybe you should have bought the one you looked at in June.

    Or maybe you should just start a blog for all this stuff. There's no need to continue to inflict your window-shopping on everyone here.

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    You're better off going second hand, or a new hardtail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    Buying a $4000 new bike used for $1500 is pretty common if you take the time to get the word out that you are looking. Who knows, you could end up with something like this, size Large, 29 pounds, less than 1000 miles...Click image for larger version. 

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    if it's a 26er maybe, 27.5 and 29ers aren't selling anywhere near that cheap in my area or on ebay unless they are really rough

    as for a good FS bike under 1500. i actually pulled it off a couple months ago. 2013 superfly 100 al on closeout. LBS had one 19" left which happened to fit me. 29lb bike which i now have down to 28lbs. what did i pay? $1400 got it barely above cost.

    that model was discontinued into 2014 as they now only have the lower spec fs6 or the slightly better fs8 or elite. the one i got has a reba, x7 components and apparently was an incredible deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by racebum View Post
    that model was discontinued into 2014 as they now only have the lower spec fs6 or the slightly better fs8 or elite. the one i got has a reba, x7 components and apparently was an incredible deal
    Did you notice that all the previous posts are from Dec 2012 or earlier? Good job resurrecting a 2 yr old thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnlwthrn View Post
    Did you notice that all the previous posts are from Dec 2012 or earlier? Good job resurrecting a 2 yr old thread...
    was oddly on the front page when i posted

    got me?

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