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    New question here. Frame opinions please: 2013 Salsa El Mariachi Ti vs GT Xizang 29er

    I've got an itch to switch from my perfectly capable and decent aluminum hard tail to a Ti framed bike. I'm looking for opinions regarding the 2013 Salsa El Mariachi Ti and GT Xizang 29er frames. I understand both are very new so there may not be much trail riding feedback yet but I'd still like to know your thoughts about the two.

    Which one would you choose and why? Is there a rigid Ti 29er fork that could work with either frame? Rigid fork is not required but just curious.

    I primarily ride single track and would like the flexibility of going between single speed and geared. In reality I'm going to go 1x9 but I'm dreaming of SRAM XX1.

    From what I've read both frames are around $2k list.



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    Salsa for sure. The alternator drops. Better geometry (to me).

    Both are nice though.
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    Salsa. I've been on a Selma ti with a whisky carbon fork for the past year- best bike I've ever had. The alternators are stupid simple, effective, and have lots of options including 142x12 thru axle . I suggest going with a whisky or niner carbon fork up front.

    The 2013 el mar ti look really nice .... Made in Taiwan but significantly lighter than 2012 model.

    Have fun
    Selma Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    but significantly lighter than 2012 model.
    Source?

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    See post 17 here

    2013 Salsa's?

    Salsa employee detailing differences of frame and manufacturing approach
    Selma Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    See post 17 here

    2013 Salsa's?

    Salsa employee detailing differences of frame and manufacturing approach
    Cool. I'd like to see a real pic of one on a scale to confirm and compare to the Lynskey made ones which weren't really that light.
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    How much lighter can a ti frame get? I've never weighed my Selma, but it seems well over 4 pounds. Complete bike SS with rigid fork is 21lbs

    Does high end ti weigh a lot less?
    Selma Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    How much lighter can a ti frame get? I've never weighed my Selma, but it seems well over 4 pounds. Complete bike SS with rigid fork is 21lbs

    Does high end ti weigh a lot less?
    Lynskey is hi end ti, the new stuff is butted which saves weight, but I'm curious to know how much in actuality it does save because those frames cost a good bit more.
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    Why not just buy a Lynskey rather than choose between two that you will eventually wish were a Lynskey?

    U.S. made frame. $2395
    Pro29 VF

    U.S. made frame. $1895
    Ridgeline-29 VF

    U.S. made frame. $1995
    Ridgeline-29 SL
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    A noob here...

    Both the El Mariachi Ti and Lynskey Pro29 are options to me. How do they compare? Any input is appreciated.

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    I have a 2012 Steel El Mar and love it.. I would buy a Ti one ion a heart beat....

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    I had always dreamed of owning a Xizang back in the day. Now I have a Lynskey but the Xizang brings back memories.

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