Dual Suspension Chinese Carbon 29er

[emu26]

As reported by Beig in the original Chinese Carbon 29er thread, Hong Fu have a 29er Carbon Duallie posted on their site.

Jenny has been contacted asking for geo details and a few other bits of info.

Thought this was worthy of a thread of its own rather than caught up in the original one.

Hong Fu

[juan_speeder]

Hong Fu you, pal!

[Stryder75]

Wow, that looks a lot like the new Scott spark 29er frame. I mean a lot. If it is under 1K, may be worth a purchase and build up.

[emu26]

Hong Fu you, pal!

Wow, that looks a lot like the new Scott spark 29er frame. I mean a lot. If it is under 1K, may be worth a purchase and build up.

sensational. Intelligent, informative first reply and it only took to the second reply to get a "that looks alot like a ...." comment

[mtnbiker72]

and the geometry is...

[emu26]

and the geometry is...

Still waiting for a reply from Jenny. I will post up as soon as I get it as I am sure the others that have already asked for it will as well.

[rockcrusher]

The other photo on the site looks weird. How do those CS pivots work?

[Loonytik]

Response will probably come after 9pm EST since that's when they will be beginning their work day.

[b-kul]

Wow, that looks a lot like the new Scott spark 29er frame. I mean a lot. If it is under 1K, may be worth a purchase and build up.

i agree, i mean most 29 fuax bar frames look similar but those are the same drop outs.

[car_nut]

Assuming these don't come with a shock, I'm curious how they're going to compare cost wise with the name brand frames. I feel like the markup on a retail shock is considerably more than what it adds to the price of a frame when sold as a set.

[subspd]

Well said the rear shock prices retail is just stupid high compared to a frameset. That said with the HT running about $400 if the FS can come in under $700 or so it would be worth it. But if your looking at over $1k with a rear shock their are other options like a spearfish.

[Dirty $anchez]

Seat stays at the pivot look suspect IMHO, would like to see a bit more material there.

[Dictatorsaurus]

Also would need to know what shock tunes work well with the frame.

[Broseph]

Will replacement bearings be available? Pretty important.

[eliflap]

i asked to Jenny price.

800 usd for a single frame, 100 usd to be shipped in Italy

[emu26]

did she give you geo charts? I haven't had any response back yet

[eliflap]

did she give you geo charts? I haven't had any response back yet

i was with her on skype few minutes ago, now she's offline

she told me the price

asked some technical informations too ( eye to eye distance, rear skerwer ... )

but no reply to my questions...

i am not sure to stay a lot on my Mac this morning to wait for her ...

[eliflap]

165mm eye to eye

1950 g the weight in 17,5"

rear skewer 135mm not 142 , as you can see on picture ( normal mtb )

[Beij]

I have thought about getting a Chinese 26er dually in the past but haven't been able to find any reviews. I have a Chinese carbon 26er hardtail and love it, stiff and quick through single track and gets more time than my dually Santa Cruz. But hardtails are relatively simple and how the geometry affects the ride is well known (at least with 26ers). Is a dually 29er from Hongfu et.al. going to compare favorably to name brands as their hardtails do? Hope so, kudos to whoever dives in. Shame only available in 17.5 - too big for me but Looking forward to any further information or pictures/reviews.

[car_nut]

There website lists 15.5" / 17.5" / 19.5" / 21.5", so I'm guessing others are available or soon will be.

My issue is still cost/risk. Like you mentioned, with a hardtail you kind of know what you're getting. I'm pretty tempted to go for a carbon 29er this winter.

On a FS bike I'm with subspd in using the Spearfish as a benchmark:
$1000
5.5 lbs = 2495 grams (I assume this includes shock)
Warranty & crash replacement

VS:
$800 + $??? for shock
1950g + ~200g for shock = 2150
Likely stiffer than a Spearfish
No warranty or crash replacement

That's not compelling enough for me.

[subspd]

What is the travel on these? 100mm?

[vizsladog]

so 800usd and you have to buy a shock???

[Dictatorsaurus]

Not such a good deal at $800.

FS is a more complex bike purchase in general.

With that said, I'm really liking my Ltk023 HT.

[tumble_downs]

Can anyone with a good knowledge of shock specs explain the influence of stroke on travel? It's easy to find a shock which is 165mm eye to eye, but stroke (travel?) differs from 37.5- 50mm. Presumably a longer stroke means longer travel, but it must depend on frame geometry. Am I on the right track?

[vierzwanzig]

Jenny finally got back to me. This frame almost strikes me as being rushed. They only have 17.5 avalible right now, and none of my questions that were specific to this frame were answered. She then asks me how many I would be interested in.

hmm...still (one of the few) very happy with my hong fu hard tail frame.