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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Try FLYXI $700 posted
    Thank you.

    Does anybody know the aproximate standover height of the large (19" I think)? Where the little seat tube brace meets the toptube?

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    I can measure my 17.5 if that helps?

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    Just measured mine, 31" but remember mine a 17" frame and running 120mm forks

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Just measured mine, 31" but remember mine a 17" frame and running 120mm forks
    Thank you. Are you pretty happy with the frame?

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    Love it!

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    Hi whats the mud room like on the rear?

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    Very good and I run 2.4's

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    Cool cheers

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    I was thinking of buying one of these frames and making up a really decent spec bike instead of buying a carbon stumpjumper fsr. I have no real bike building experience and I was wondering if some one could post all of the components needed to build a complete bike once I'd secured a frame. The stumpy is nearly 9k dollars here in my neck of the woods so this looks like a do-able option.

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    Have you got a doner bike that you could Use? Or doing it from fresh?

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    Handle bar
    Grips
    Shifters
    Brake lever
    Stem
    Stem spacers
    Headset
    Cables brake and shifter
    Wheels (hubs, rims, spokes)
    Tires
    Tubes or tubeless setup
    Disc rotors
    Disc brakes
    Bottom bracket
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    Seat post collar
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    Derailleurs
    Chainstay protector
    Handlebar end caps
    Chain rings

    Also

    Carbon grip paste
    Torque wrench
    Crown race setter tool

    You may need a star nut and cap too.

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    You'll also need a special tool to setup the cassette on the rear hub.

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    Did i get it all? I can't think of anything else at the moment.

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    Bearing press and bb30 installation cups
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    cable housings
    fork, unless you get a carbon one from the frame supplier.

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    Its not a bb30 frame.
    Why would you put carbon forks on a full suss frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by connolm View Post
    Derailleurs
    Chainstay protector
    Handlebar end caps
    Chain rings

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    Carbon grip paste
    Torque wrench
    Crown race setter tool

    You may need a star nut and cap too.

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    This is where the math get's fuzzy for me. Unless you already have parts you want to swap over it doesn't seem to make sense to buy one of these Chinese frames, FS or HT. A good spec of parts (XT or XO) all in with Fork and Shock is going to cost about $4,000, maybe less if you can find some deals add in the frame and you're at $4,750. A Scott Spark 10 is $5,000 with a pretty good spec. For an extra $250 you get an assembled bike with a warranty and shop to stand behind anything else that may go wrong. It's a different story if you're swapping parts or can get a super deal on a build kit but otherwise it doesn't seem like a great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjc451 View Post
    This is where the math get's fuzzy for me. Unless you already have parts you want to swap over it doesn't seem to make sense to buy one of these Chinese frames, FS or HT. A good spec of parts (XT or XO) all in with Fork and Shock is going to cost about $4,000, maybe less if you can find some deals add in the frame and you're at $4,750. A Scott Spark 10 is $5,000 with a pretty good spec. For an extra $250 you get an assembled bike with a warranty and shop to stand behind anything else that may go wrong. It's a different story if you're swapping parts or can get a super deal on a build kit but otherwise it doesn't seem like a great deal.
    Not sure where you are buying your parts. I can get a XT group with brakes, all day on ebay or from online sources like BikerBob for $800 or less. You can also get forks for $500 on ebay,amazon, anywhere. Wheels can be had for $300. Plus you get to spec the whole bike yourself. These bike can be built for way less and it is your bike, your spec. Plus some people just get their rocks off building bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    Not sure where you are buying your parts. I can get a XT group with brakes, all day on ebay or from online sources like BikerBob for $800 or less. You can also get forks for $500 on ebay,amazon, anywhere. Wheels can be had for $300. Plus you get to spec the whole bike yourself. These bike can be built for way less and it is your bike, your spec. Plus some people just get their rocks off building bikes.

    I'm totally down with wanting to build a bike yourself and getting it exactly how you want. The point of my post however is if your solely doing this to get a great deal you may want to think twice. Look at at what a comparably spec'd Scott will cost you versus going Chinese and building it up from scratch. Here is a spec that might be considered comparable to a spark 9 (XT vs XO/X9 mix), these are good internet prices, yes if you went to 5 different shops online and e-bay you may be able to get better prices but most folks don't want to deal with that. This build would cost you $4,300 before any shipping costs, A Spark 9 goes for $4,200 and certainly has some cheaper parts like an aluminum stem and seatpost but it's a decent build. Not to be forgotten if the frame goes kablooey on your first ride your not SOL.

    Fork Float RLC $760
    Brakes XT $320
    Cassette XT 11-34 $80
    Chain XT $50
    Crankset XT $320
    F Derail XT $55
    R Deral XT $99
    Grips ESI $8
    Handlebar EC-70 $110
    Headset FSA $69
    Pedals C $110
    Saddle WTB $125
    Seatpost EC70 $140
    Shifters XT $160
    Stem EA90 $75
    Tires Rac Ralphs $120
    Wheels Stans $600
    Rear ShockFox RP3 $350
    Frame $750

    BTW, I'm not pushing Scott or any other big brand. I thought long and hard about buying Chinese and building it up which is why I have all these quotes handy but at the end of the day it didn't seem worth it to me. Ended up getting Scalpel 29er which I love and is a whole different topic.

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    Great to get your perspective but I agree with Admin_X, you can get a lot more for $4,000 off Ebay and other's online than the build you have suggested and my assumption from reading these forums is that most who buy these frames do enjoy shopping around for the best deals. Not sure what your referring to SOL re the frame. Haven't heard of any frames exploading and they come with 2 yr factory warranty. I've purchased a hardtail from Hongfu and after 6 months no problems with the frame. Granted a dually has more parts that can fail but so far I have experienced nothing to suggest that their frames are any less trail worthy than brand names (ie Scott) or that they won't honour their warranty if there is a problem. By the way, how do you find the Scalpel 29er?

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    The reason I bought it was because I snapped any Garry fisher and had all the parts.
    Buying all fresh parts will be an expensive way of doing it.
    Buy a second hand doner bike and swap all the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beij View Post
    Great to get your perspective but I agree with Admin_X, you can get a lot more for $4,000 off Ebay and other's online than the build you have suggested and my assumption from reading these forums is that most who buy these frames do enjoy shopping around for the best deals. Not sure what your referring to SOL re the frame. Haven't heard of any frames exploading and they come with 2 yr factory warranty. I've purchased a hardtail from Hongfu and after 6 months no problems with the frame. Granted a dually has more parts that can fail but so far I have experienced nothing to suggest that their frames are any less trail worthy than brand names (ie Scott) or that they won't honour their warranty if there is a problem. By the way, how do you find the Scalpel 29er?
    Didn't know Hongfu came with a warranty so my bad, though it will certainly be easier to deal with an LBS than an internet retailer if something goes wrong. I'm not implying that the quality is any worse or better either, they may even be made in the same factory since virtually all Carbon MTB frames are made in China these days. Bike frames do break though and how much hassle you want to deal with if it happens is something to consider in the equation when buying from an e-tailer based in China.

    As for the Scalpel I think it's awesome. It is absolutely the best climbing FS bike I've ever ridden if it has a negative I'd say it has mediocre small bump compliance. I've written a more thorough review on the Cannondale Forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjc451 View Post
    though it will certainly be easier to deal with an LBS than an internet retailer if something goes wrong. How do you know this?

    since virtually all Carbon MTB frames are made in China these days. Are you sure?
    sources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    sources?
    check the labels when you next go to a lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    check the labels when you next go to a lbs
    try again...


    Virtually all carbon fiber bicycle component manufacturing for various bike brands occurs in China and Taiwan

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    So where do you think Taiwan is?
    Taiwan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Taiwan also is a member of the International Olympic Committee and sends its own team to the Olympic Games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    Taiwan also is a member of the International Olympic Committee and sends its own team to the Olympic Games.
    Under the Chinese Taipei Olympic flag as a territory of the Republic of China.


    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
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    Some of the factories are also in Hong Kong (again part of China though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Some of the factories are also in Hong Kong (again part of China though).
    but... but... they have their own olympic team.
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    but... but... they have their own olympic team.
    Oh yeah.
    My mistake.

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    any further updates from anyone who's put one of these together?

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    any one try one of these?

    has anyone tried one of these? im thinking of saving for one of these possibly but id like to know how it will hold up first
    FLYXI 29ER dualie MTB Frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by henry9419 View Post
    has anyone tried one of these? im thinking of saving for one of these possibly but id like to know how it will hold up first
    FLYXI 29ER dualie MTB Frame
    Same frame as all of the ones posted here except from a different supplier.

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    Some clarification on Trigon CF 29er frame...



    This thing looks a bit different than the Hong Fu and FlyXi... Looks like a full FSR rear end to me, yeah?

    Here are some linkyz:
    Has geo: [ TRIGON ]
    Claims "4-linkage": :::: Welcome to TRIGON Bicycles ::::

    I'm a 29er n00b. But are those angles looking a bit steep or is it just me and my 26er bias?
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    Trigon's 29er is far more interesting that Flyxii & co.
    would like to know the price.

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    Your right its a different frame, but very similar. The rear brake is different and top tube is quite different

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    vwsurfbum, all of them are similar.

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    Well yes in that they are all bike frames lol

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    4 1/2" of rear travel and 490mm front axel to crown. I'd like to know what's going on there.

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    MagicCarpet, maybe it's misprint or for small size.

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    or they have used the same geo drawing from their carbon hardtail 29er here

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    then again maybe they haven't given one has linkages drawn and the other doesn't, sorry

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    So, I got a response from someone named Stella from Trigon. That frame (SQC01) is $1305, + $396 UPS shipping. No clarification if it comes w/ a rear shock.
    At that price, I'd be looking at a Titus El Guapo or even a Kona Satori...yeah, it's not carbon but whatev. Email below:

    We dont have any distributor in US and we can sell the SQC01 frame to you directly.
    The price for the frame is US$1305.
    The delivery fee via UPS express is US$396

    Please let us know if you have any question,



    Best Regards,

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    Fax:886-4-23208848
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    Welcome to Intrepid Bicycles

    Edit: I mean, as a carbon frame, it's still a deal (kinda). Looking at Stella sig, I think they might be sourcing it from the mainland somewhere... Let's find out where and if there's a better price, yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henry9419 View Post
    has anyone tried one of these? im thinking of saving for one of these possibly but id like to know how it will hold up first
    FLYXI 29ER dualie MTB Frame
    My experience with Flyxii on their FR211 is they appear to be the "left over" or "second" or "discarded" distributor for Dengfu. Several who has taken delivery of the FR211 and matching fork have had small cosmetic issues. Mine had a chip in the seat tube collar area and a uneven finish carbon layer at the seat tube collar. Another recent poster had to sand down his steer tube to install the headset.

    You can save a little cash with Flyxii and if you can deal with cosmetic issues then I recommend them. If you want a closer to perfect product I would pay the premium for Dengfu.

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    I disagree with this, maybe with the HT not with the Full suspension models.

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    I think that 1800$ is for frame w/o shock. it's rather expensive. SC TB is more attractive in that case.

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    BUMP!! Updates on built bikes? Ride and reports? Anyone?

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    What would you like to know?
    I'm racing mine tomorrow, weighed it during the week, with Joplin and 120mm forks.
    No wheels it was 9kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    What would you like to know?
    I'm racing mine tomorrow, weighed it during the week, with Joplin and 120mm forks.
    No wheels it was 9kg.
    Have you got the suspension dialed nicely? Pedal vs bump compliance? Any issues with the rear suspension pivot or anything else?

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