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    Over here a frame on its own it £2500+
    My complete build is well under that.

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    Well you could buy a superfly 100

    Quote Originally Posted by Barteos View Post
    There was a time when I was very tempted with Chinese frames but then I've done the math and I've realised that they turn out to be quite an expensive option. Some other problems aside, considering the resalable(?) "value", the moment you buy it, you effectively throw away most of your money.
    I understand this argument. But try reselling a Trek/Gary Fisher Collection bike. No frame warrantee. I broke my first Paragon, and while I love the bike, I bet I couldn't sell it for that much more than a no name carbon frame.

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    Fair enough guys.
    I remain sceptical though and I guess only time will tell what wider effect those "cheap" frames will have on our pockets in a longer run. (even of those who don't own or going to buy one).
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    So, to jump to the ned of this thread, is it any good? Ive been toying with these for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by shem View Post
    So, to jump to the ned of this thread, is it any good? Ive been toying with these for a while
    yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    yes
    I've already ordered mine so too late to change now, but what's impressions on rear stiffness? Is a 10mm thru axle needed for XC stuff?

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    What carbon weave did you go Tim?
    I'm all set to order but can't make up my mind on 12k Matte, UD Matt or UD gloss

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    Well I don't notice any rear flex in the frame but a slight flex in the wheels when hitting some jumps along the xc routes.
    Mine is a 3k gloss finish BTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowseruni View Post
    What carbon weave did you go Tim?
    I'm all set to order but can't make up my mind on 12k Matte, UD Matt or UD gloss
    I actually went matte 3k finish.

    I have a theory (could be wrong!) that matte 3k hides any floors better, plus it looks stealthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-milkybar-kid View Post
    That's the one

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    Cheers

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    My chiner
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    Step by step
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    Dual Suspension Chinese Carbon  29er-imageuploadedbytapatalk1341262957.555910.jpgDual Suspension Chinese Carbon  29er-imageuploadedbytapatalk1341262990.761826.jpgDual Suspension Chinese Carbon  29er-imageuploadedbytapatalk1341263005.973064.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiro View Post
    My chiner
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    Ha, I also call my LTK-023 my "chiner"

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiro View Post
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    What size frame is that?
    Fork travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiro View Post
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    Sorry, I was referring to your frame Wiro.

    What's the frame size/suspension travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo83 View Post
    Sorry, I was referring to your frame Wiro.

    What's the frame size/suspension travel
    Hi Timbo
    Is the 17'5" frame size.
    100mm rear travel. 165mm rear shock.

    Sorry my English.

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    orange lamborghini metalic color on frame will be awesome! or white :MRGREEN:

    100g more heavy for stilish

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    They are $700 so mine cost me £440 then the price of the shock on top.

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    i need one that has the longest ETT.

    suggestions on where to buy or are they all selling the same frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    i need one that has the longest ETT.

    suggestions on where to buy or are they all selling the same frame?
    All the same frame, same geometry at least.

    See flyxii link here - http://flyxii.com/products_1.asp?menuid=336&id=601 - for geometry. Top tube is fairly long, especially with the seat tube angle being so raked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo83 View Post
    All the same frame, same geometry at least.

    See flyxii link here - FLYXI - for geometry. Top tube is fairly long, especially with the seat tube angle being so raked
    cool thx.

    I saw that this one is sold as a 21.5" frame so I thought it might have a longer ett but I couldn't find a geo chart on it. If it's the same frame then it's mute point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    cool thx.

    I saw that this one is sold as a 21.5" frame so I thought it might have a longer ett but I couldn't find a geo chart on it. If it's the same frame then it's mute point.

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    Yeah I think the hong fu sizing isn't accurate. If you check the seat tube length of the flyxii duallie's geo it's exactly 21 inches in the 21 size.

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    What suspension fork is best for the flyxi frame? 80mm, 100mm or 120mm?

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    The frame is designed for 100mm fork, but I ride with 80mm and other ones with 120mm without problems

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    Ok, thanks:-)

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    Anybody seen a 120-130mm rear travel frame yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    Anybody seen a 120-130mm rear travel frame yet?
    chinese ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    Anybody seen a 120-130mm rear travel frame yet?
    Given that there is only currently 1 Dual Suspension Chinese generic frame, the answer to that would be no.

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    any chance to design going to horst link?

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    Hi all, can you tell us about the Dual Suspension Chinese Carbon 29er?
    I want to build a bike for XC, can give some advice?
    I choose chinese or Giant Anthem x 29.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad40rus View Post
    I choose chinese or Giant Anthem x 29.
    that's what I did.

    wish I could tell you more but I'm still waiting for my frame to arrive

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    Who is waiting for one off these mines been on order from flyxii for 6 weeks now and it's still not been posted.

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    I ordered mine from flyxi at 26 june, they told me that it should take 30 days before frame was ready from the factory. Got an email 3 days ago (31 july) with tracking number so it has been sent from Hong Kong.

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    They said 30 days for mine then 7 and now 10 more days so hopefully it will be here by the end of the month,I asked for a 3K Matt 19"

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    What type of rear shock (hi, med, low) would you recommend to use with flyxii FM-210 frame?

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    I thinking of one of these frames but all the talk about the shock mounting hardware and bearings kind of freaks me out. I can build a bike from scratch, well build a HT from scratch. Done it too many times to mention, but all the talk about the shock has me lost. Can someone help me out with this? I have no idea where to start or what I would need. What all is needed besides the shock to mount on this frame?

    Or would it be something my lbs would have on hand? I wouldn't mind just paying them to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny7 View Post
    I thinking of one of these frames but all the talk about the shock mounting hardware and bearings kind of freaks me out. I can build a bike from scratch, well build a HT from scratch. Done it too many times to mention, but all the talk about the shock has me lost. Can someone help me out with this? I have no idea where to start or what I would need. What all is needed besides the shock to mount on this frame?

    Or would it be something my lbs would have on hand? I wouldn't mind just paying them to do it.
    Its dead simple, when you buy your shock it should come with bush mounts?
    you need 22mm bushes and a M6 hole in the middle of the bush.
    all you need to buy after that is a smooth shank M6 bolt to go through it.

    If your used to building bikes, you'll have nothing to worry about!

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    I ordered 4 frames from Jenny at Hong-Fu. They were supposedly completed and couriered/mailed on July 12. It's now over 4 weeks later and no sign of them at all.

    Has anyone else had frames turn up after such a long period? Any recommendations on how one can trace (apart from the website) EMS parcels?

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    From the german site selling the (overpriced) painted version of this frame I see that the rider limit is 100kg (220lbs).

    I'm 220lbs fully loaded, anyone else around my size ride this frame? It's strange that this frame has the lowest max rider weight of all the other similar name-brand ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raceface_lefty View Post
    I ordered 4 frames from Jenny at Hong-Fu. They were supposedly completed and couriered/mailed on July 12. It's now over 4 weeks later and no sign of them at all.

    Has anyone else had frames turn up after such a long period? Any recommendations on how one can trace (apart from the website) EMS parcels?
    Did you get a tracking number for the EMS trace? My Light-Bicycle.com rims came via USPS after customs if that helps. I was told by my local postman that packages would tend to "get lost" on the Asian end, rather than the US end...including China and Taiwan...unless it came express.
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    Mine will be here on Tuesday I had to pay £21 customs so not to bad will post a pick when it's done cant wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Did you get a tracking number for the EMS trace?
    They have turned up after 5 weeks, are now in customs for clearing. Can't wait to build and ride.

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    Just done it 19" 3K Matt the frame came with the rear shock bolts so all need is the 8x22mm mount kit,it comes in at 23.3lb so not bad.

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    looks good, just 100mm up front?
    I've just changed mine from single ring to double and bash.

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    Yeh 100mm I have 30-38 on the front

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-milkybar-kid View Post
    Just done it 19" 3K Matt the frame came with the rear shock bolts so all need is the 8x22mm mount kit,it comes in at 23.3lb so not bad.
    pic snipped
    looks good. do you know what the weight of the frame with the shock mounted?

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    cool

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    very very cool

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    Not sure with the shock but without it it was 2070g

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    Found this on eBay, appears to be same model but instead of Toray T700 carbon it is made from T1000 carbon - I asked the supplier and they confirmed it is t1000. Still no 142x12 rear dropout.

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    hey Milkybar, any issues with the finish of your frame? Someone stated that the reason why flyxi was $100 cheaper than others was because they were selling seconds or blemished frames. Can you confirm?

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    How's the suspension on those things?

    Any excessive pedal induced bob? How does it compare to the DW link or Giant Maestro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianwon View Post
    hey Milkybar, any issues with the finish of your frame? Someone stated that the reason why flyxi was $100 cheaper than others was because they were selling seconds or blemished frames. Can you confirm?
    Not true, at least with the hardtails. I ordered a ht earlier this year from flyxii and it was perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    How's the suspension on those things?

    Any excessive pedal induced bob? How does it compare to the DW link or Giant Maestro?
    would also like to know this

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    Hi no its fine very nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by the-milkybar-kid View Post
    Just done it 19" 3K Matt the frame came with the rear shock bolts so all need is the 8x22mm mount kit,it comes in at 23.3lb so not bad.
    That is a nice looking bike. It reminds me of a Cannondale Scalpel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    How's the suspension on those things?

    Any excessive pedal induced bob? How does it compare to the DW link or Giant Maestro?
    I have a fox pro pedal shock and i dont get any bob.

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    Anyone know what the current backlog is for this frame from flyxi and hong-fu? I emailed them but havent heard anything back.

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    [QUOTE=the-milkybar-kid;9613798]Just done it 19" 3K Matt the frame came with the rear shock bolts so all need is the 8x22mm mount kit,it comes in at 23.3lb so not bad./QUOTE]

    I was wondering, is this the FLYXI, FLX-FR-210 frame? What made you go with this frame, as to the dengfu, or ltbikes etc frame?
    It is the 17.5" frame that you have? I ride medium (18") size 26 inch wheel size frames, and I'm pretty much confused with the different sizing of these 29er frames, as to which one would fit me. Either the 17.5 or the 19 inch frame?
    The bike you built is damn right very sexy!

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    Look at the effective top tube measurement and your question will be answered. Good luck with your decision and post some pics if it all goes ahead.

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    Thanks for that. I'll measure my top tube and go from there.
    I will post pics of my bike I'll build. It will take atleast a month or 2 though. Will order a frame this week sometime.

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    finished by Flyxii build

    11.2kg build. Lighter than my old Giant Anthem 26er build!!
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    Love it!! A few more details please..
    - How much did you pay?
    - What seat post is that?
    - Is that an X0 rear derailleur?

    Again... awesome!!



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    finished by Flyxii build

    11.2kg build. Lighter than my old Giant Anthem 26er build!!

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    Sorry... How about wheels and side throw carbon bottle cage? Flyxii as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo83 View Post
    finished by Flyxii build

    11.2kg build. Lighter than my old Giant Anthem 26er build!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo83 View Post
    finished by Flyxii build

    11.2kg build. Lighter than my old Giant Anthem 26er build!!
    Are those zip ties are your rear brake hose? It didn't have guides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny7 View Post
    Are those zip ties are your rear brake hose? It didn't have guides?
    Yep, I used zips for the brake lines.

    The radius of the swing arm meant that I had a big loop of brake line under the BB. I didn't like it. If the little bit of cable for the rear dérailleur gets caught and ripped its no big deal, I can still ride it. But the brakes cable I was a bit worried about. Works well anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black37 View Post
    Love it!! A few more details please..
    - How much did you pay?
    - What seat post is that?
    - Is that an X0 rear derailleur?

    Again... awesome!!
    Paid about 3800 all up. All parts new, and all labour by me. Parts were all bought online.

    Seat post is a KCNC scandium

    Only have an x0 crank. Everything else is XT except the chain which is XTR

    Wheels are Light Bicycles carbon wheels

    Bottle cage is Bontrager side entry

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    BB hight

    Very. Nice
    What fork and shock length did you use ?
    Can you measure the BB center to the ground?
    Would like to know if it is hight enough to Avoid pedal strikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Foot View Post
    Very. Nice
    What fork and shock length did you use ?
    Can you measure the BB center to the ground?
    Would like to know if it is hight enough to Avoid pedal strikes.
    Fork is 100mm, shock is 165/35mm.

    Not sure on bb height. I'll have to get someone to measure it for me. It will always depend on your sag though

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    Thanks
    With out being on the bike what is the BB center to ground.
    I ride 180mm cranks so I want to make sure I have enough clearance ,to avoid pedal strikes.

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    I'm looking at the Flyxii website at the FLX-FR-210 frame, it quotes "Headset size : 1 1 /2" Head Tube Reduced to 1-1/8" Fork Tube Threadless Headset"
    When ordering the front fork (Fox 32 Float 100 CTD), there are a few options of the steerer tube, "1-18" Threadless & 1.5>1-1/8" (tapered)" Do I order the '1.5>1-1/8" (tapered)' instead of the '1-18" Threadless'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikulas View Post
    Do I order the '1.5>1-1/8" (tapered)'?
    Yes, that's the one you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raceface_lefty View Post
    Yes, that's the one you need.
    Thanks, I just purchased the frame, and looking forward to building it up once it comes in the mail. Anna from Flyxii said it will take up to 10 days to deliver.
    I'll order the forks next week, but pretty disappointing with the fox fork prices here in Australia. I wanted to order from either Jensenusa or cambriabike, but they don't ship Fox forks to Australia. Does anyone know of another option for Fox forks that ship to Australia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikulas View Post
    Thanks, I just purchased the frame, and looking forward to building it up once it comes in the mail. Anna from Flyxii said it will take up to 10 days to deliver.
    I'll order the forks next week, but pretty disappointing with the fox fork prices here in Australia. I wanted to order from either Jensenusa or cambriabike, but they don't ship Fox forks to Australia. Does anyone know of another option for Fox forks that ship to Australia?
    I'm in NZ and when I built my Chinese carbon HT 11 months ago I used CRC UK a lot for my component purchases
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo83 View Post
    finished by Flyxii build
    11.2kg build. Lighter than my old Giant Anthem 26er build!!
    Cool!
    By the way,Timbo83, what can you say about flyxii fr210-based bike in comparison with Anthem? How does new bike feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctarter View Post
    Cool!
    By the way,Timbo83, what can you say about flyxii fr210-based bike in comparison with Anthem? How does new bike feel?
    Ok, so from an XC perspective ;

    I had an alloy Anthem, so for starters the power transfer feels much more direct. More so than I thought it would, given that the anthem has a one piece rear. Though you could put some of that down to the carbon rims as well.

    Geometry wise it's only slightly longer on the top tube, but the rear is longer because of the wheels.

    Steering- well it's a 29er, so it's inherently slower steering, but only slightly. It just requires a little more effort in the real tight corners. Turning circle surprisingly is not much different.

    Suspension and handling - the front end is VERY stiff, and with the carbon rims it's pretty much point and shoot. There's very little horizontal deflection in the rear. I need to dial all in the front fork some more though, maybe run a bit more negative spring.

    The rear suspension is less plush on the smaller bumps than the Anthem, because you need a good platform for pedaling. I'm running it in the mid compression setting on the monarch shock. It's a bit of a trade off, but that's what happens with single pivot suspension. Pedaling wise its just as good as an Anthem, but you do need that compression in the shock.

    Haven't really pushed it in some really rough stuff yet, but larger bumps (a few 1 foot jumps) have been soaked up well

    How's that?

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    Timbo, can you shim that can so it ramps up more? Perhaps that might allow for less compression dampening and a bit more small bump compliance? I guess that's the holy grail with this frame in a way. What's the perfect shock and the perfect shim? As this is very similar to the Scott, would it's standard shock be a good default shock? (probably expensive???)

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    about the rear shock. I'm looking at the different sizes.
    I want to get the fox Float CTD, and the sizes they come at are:
    Length / Travel
    5.50 x 1.00
    6.00 x 1.25
    6.50 x 1.50
    7.25 x 1.75
    7.50 x 2.00
    7.875 x 2.00

    Which one do I order? Is it the 6.50x1.50?


    For the front I'm getting 100mm travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    Timbo, can you shim that can so it ramps up more? Perhaps that might allow for less compression dampening and a bit more small bump compliance? I guess that's the holy grail with this frame in a way. What's the perfect shock and the perfect shim? As this is very similar to the Scott, would it's standard shock be a good default shock? (probably expensive???)
    Well, yes and no

    If you have a read through a lot of the HONEST reviews on the current Scott Spark 29ers, the thing that stands out the most is the constant criticism of the rear suspension. The fact that its either all locked out or all plush (and even then not that plush).

    Some reviewers have swapped the shock out for one with a platform, like an rp23 etc, and found a huge improvement.

    shimming the shock might make it feel better, could make it worse, i dont know. ive only had it a week so im still only just running it in and tuning it. i dont really want to open the shock up just yet before ive really played with the stock option.

    mikulas - you need a 6.5 x 1.5. just make sure you get the right velocity tune. i dont know how the fox shocks rate their tunes.

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    If 6.50 is 165mm then yes that's the one.

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    Thanks Milkybar & Timbo.
    Last edited by mikulas; 09-06-2012 at 02:28 PM.

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    Here is the start of my China project.
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    Shiney :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikulas View Post
    I'm looking at the Flyxii website at the FLX-FR-210 frame, it quotes "Headset size : 1 1 /2" Head Tube Reduced to 1-1/8" Fork Tube Threadless Headset"
    When ordering the front fork (Fox 32 Float 100 CTD), there are a few options of the steerer tube, "1-18" Threadless & 1.5>1-1/8" (tapered)" Do I order the '1.5>1-1/8" (tapered)' instead of the '1-18" Threadless'?
    Yes get the tapered 1.5>1/18

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    I want to get one of these build for my wife... just not sure on handle bar / stem stuff... shes 5'1 can someone help with stem / bar / headset to get?

    Also will a front fox tapered float F29 that has Steerer cut to:180mm (7.08 inches) work ok with this frame?

    thanks!
    Joe
    Last edited by joe_blow; 09-22-2012 at 03:38 AM.

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    Joe

    This is never a popular opinion around here, but at 5"1' I'd say your wife would be better suited to a 26" frame. HongFu have just released a new carbon 26" dual sus frame. The stem you need may be shorter than the ones they have, but the headset and bars could be bought from them. My wife is 5" exactly. A 29er just isn't happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    Joe

    This is never a popular opinion around here, but at 5"1' I'd say your wife would be better suited to a 26" frame. HongFu have just released a new carbon 26" dual sus frame. The stem you need may be shorter than the ones they have, but the headset and bars could be bought from them. My wife is 5" exactly. A 29er just isn't happening.

    She currently has a 26", A friend of mine (male) is actually smaller 5-0 and owns a
    small 2012 stumpy fsr 29er with great sucesss, wife rode it and likes the 2012 specialized stumpjumper fsr small...


    maybe this frame is not a good thing then for small riders..

    I was debating this frame just because my stumpy is all upgraded and i want to utilize all my stock 2012 components. I just need a frame basically and i cannot locate small 2012 stumpjumper fsr 29er frames for sale..... and the rare one i found dealer wont sell out of state due to specialized policies.

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    No problem Joe. If she's happy, that's what matters. I can't see this frame being any different. I just wonder how such a rise from saddle to bar could be tollerable, but it's not my business in the end.

    Best of luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    No problem Joe. If she's happy, that's what matters. I can't see this frame being any different. I just wonder how such a rise from saddle to bar could be tollerable, but it's not my business in the end.

    Best of luck with it.

    would you happen to know what is the standover height on the small 15.5 frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_blow View Post
    would you happen to know what is the standover height on the small 15.5 frame?
    I hope it will be useful
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    What Chris King or Cane Creek headset can I fit to this tapered head tube? Anyone gone with anything other than the headset that can be ordered with the frame?

    I have found the headset bearings that come with the frame just fit in, do they need to be pressed at all?

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    My ones were were tight but fit and work perfectly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    My ones were were tight but fit and work perfectly?
    Tight as in force them in? I have fitted but the top bearing doesn't seem to click in, it just fits without really seating properly.

    It works ok but I have had to tighten the top cap very tight to avoid any play on the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raceface_lefty View Post
    It works ok but I have had to tighten the top cap very tight to avoid any play on the fork.
    Are you saying that the headset just fell in to the head tube?? That is definitely not acceptable...

    I'm looking to buy one of these frames, but no way will I pull the trigger if that's the case.

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    No t he headset is already sealed into the carbon frame it's just the bearings that are push fit.
    You do have to tighten them down, as with any sealed bearing headset

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    Quote Originally Posted by recitio View Post
    Are you saying that the headset just fell in to the head tube?? That is definitely not acceptable...

    I'm looking to buy one of these frames, but no way will I pull the trigger if that's the case.
    The headset is fine, the bottom bearing sits really tight in the headset. The top bearing appears not press in as tightly.

    Maybe I need a bearing press to get the top bearing to go into the headset. Once I tighten the top allen key and stem there is no movement on the fork, it is tight and the bearing appears to be seated properly.

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    So let me get this right, a company like Scott spends a bunch of money on R&D to develop a frame, and then has it manufactured in China to save costs and to hit a price point. Then the Chinese manufacturer steals the design and hands it over to another Chinese company that then produces and sells the frame at an even lower price because they didn't have to spend anything on R&D. This doesn't seem like it going to end well for the non-Chinese companies and will likely end up killing innovation in the long run.
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