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    Interesting pricing difference over the other side of the pond, anything with santacruz written on it would be about £1500 upwards and that's if we even get a chance to buy it!
    But theses work out about £460! Big difference in price.

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    i think i'm gonna order the frame from flyxii. they offer free delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Gentleman View Post
    i think i'm gonna order the frame from flyxii. they offer free delivery.
    Do you know if it's by air or ship? Boat can take several months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny7 View Post
    Do you know if it's by air or ship? Boat can take several months.
    i don't think that it would take too long. i'm in Siberia. i ordered some gadgets at DealExtreme, it took 1.5 month or smth about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Interesting pricing difference over the other side of the pond, anything with santacruz written on it would be about £1500 upwards and that's if we even get a chance to buy it!
    But theses work out about £460! Big difference in price.

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    Yep, big difference!
    Here in Sweden it will also be about a factor of three between them in price.

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    these pivot bearings or non-bearing pivot keeps away from it. it would be no joy to brake frame or/and injury yourself in the middle of trail cause grease leaked from these non-bearings

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    The main pivots have bearings

    The lower pivots most certainly have bearings. The pivots at the chain stays are brass bushings if I remember correctly. Time will tell if this is a problem. I have no idea what Scott uses at their pivots. I would be interested to know.

    However, I very much doubt that bearing vs bushings at a pivot will cause a catastrophic failure on the trail. It seems far fetched, but anything is possible. If you want to argue that the frames are fragile and as such they may break, that would be catastrophic. But most carbon failures turn out to be non-catastrophic, other than a hike back out of wherever you happen to be riding. Which in some cases is a catastrophe depending on your personal definition of that word.

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    i speak of bearing/non-bearing/pivots, not carbon frame itself, i assume that material is good, but pivot is complex, and presume that chinese guys may not have done it reliable and strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Gentleman View Post
    i speak of bearing/non-bearing/pivots, not carbon frame itself, i assume that material is good, but pivot is complex, and presume that chinese guys may not have done it reliable and strong.
    Bushings are not a bad thing. The rear pivot hardly makes any rotations, so a simple delrin of DU bushing would be just fine!
    I'm more curious about the upper&lower pivots of the swinging link, because they rotate quite a lot!

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    I agree PG

    If there was one place where I thought they might mess up that would be it. I was wondering about the Scott because t looks as if that's what they copied. However if the mold is made well then the pivots should have proper alignment. That would be the most important thing. after that there is the question of whether there is after mold machining to fit the bushings or bearings in the frame. I can see lots of room for error.

    In fact when I took the frame out of the box and found I couldn't cycles the suspension, I was very concerned. I took apart the pivots and greased them and made sure the torque was correct and that made a world of difference. I have ridden the assembled bike and the suspension is doing its job. It's not a VPP frame but so far my friend is liking it.

    It may disintegrate over time. So maybe we're only renting a frame. The economic decision is something like buy a $800 frame and have it worth nothing after two years, versus buy a $2000 frame an have it worth $1100 after two years. I just bought a one year old Tallboy Carbon for $1K less than new, I probably overpaid, but used Tallboys are thin on the ground. In that case $800 loss in value doesn't seem so bad.

    For my friend and I it was an experiment and so far he is very happy. We'll see how it survives his weekly Sunday ride and a few outings to Fountainhead.

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    nbwallace, i eagerly wait the report about his ride and especially about the frame: its behavior, reliability, stiffness, bearing, bushing and so on.

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    I finally got all the components, so I could complete my bike:
    Bar Grips: CTK
    Brakes Rear: Formula R1 160mm
    Brakes Front: Formula R1 160mm
    Cables / Housing: Shimano
    Cassette: Shimano XT 11/34 9-speed
    Chain: KMC 9s
    Crankset: Rotor 3D
    – Outer Ring: Middleburn 36
    – Middle Ring: Middleburn 22
    – Ring Bolts: Carbon Ti
    Derailleur Front: Shimano XTR
    Derailleur Rear: Shimano XTR
    Fork: Reba RL 80 mm tapered
    Shock: Fox RP23
    Frame: Hong Fu FM036
    Handle Bar: CTK 680 mm
    Headset: No brand China
    Pedals: Crank Brother
    Quick Releases: Tune
    Seat Post: Thomson Elite
    Seat Clamp: Salsa
    Saddle: Merek
    Shifter: Sram Attack
    Stem: Easton EA70 90mm -20°
    Tire Front: Maxxis Cross Mark
    Tire Rear: Maxxis Cross mark
    Wheel set (Front): Tune King 32 Hole with No Tubes ZTR Crest Rim
    Wheel set (Rear): Tune Kong 32 Hole with No Tubes ZTR Crest Rim

    Weight 23,39
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    very nice!

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    Very cool, but why 80mm rather than 100mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    very nice!
    Thank you

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    LoAl, have you tested the bike? how is suspension, its work, reliability ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Very cool, but why 80mm rather than 100mm?
    Thanks, I wanted a race setting. I must say that the bike seemed like the same balanced


    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Gentleman View Post
    LoAl, have you tested the bike? how is suspension, its work, reliability ?
    I only noticed a little bending of seatstays. I improved by mounting a massive QR of my old Mavic ksyryum. To fully resolve, I would like to mount on rear hub a 135x10 thru axle. About the reliability of the pivots......we are waiting ....

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    and how does it work ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Gentleman View Post
    and how does it work ?
    The feeling is of an active suspension. Only on very steep climb with 22t I noticed pedal bob, readily solved by activating high platform of fox rp23. However, this frame has a suspension scheme very similar to that of trek superfly 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoAl View Post
    I finally got all the components, so I could complete my bike:
    Very nice! And how is the braking on rough terrain, or in descents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoAl View Post
    I finally got all the components, so I could complete my bike:
    Bar Grips: CTK
    Brakes Rear: Formula R1 160mm
    Brakes Front: Formula R1 160mm
    Cables / Housing: Shimano
    Cassette: Shimano XT 11/34 9-speed
    Chain: KMC 9s
    Crankset: Rotor 3D
    – Outer Ring: Middleburn 36
    – Middle Ring: Middleburn 22
    – Ring Bolts: Carbon Ti
    Derailleur Front: Shimano XTR
    Derailleur Rear: Shimano XTR
    Fork: Reba RL 80 mm tapered
    Shock: Fox RP23
    Frame: Hong Fu FM036
    Handle Bar: CTK 680 mm
    Headset: No brand China
    Pedals: Crank Brother
    Quick Releases: Tune
    Seat Post: Thomson Elite
    Seat Clamp: Salsa
    Saddle: Merek
    Shifter: Sram Attack
    Stem: Easton EA70 90mm -20°
    Tire Front: Maxxis Cross Mark
    Tire Rear: Maxxis Cross mark
    Wheel set (Front): Tune King 32 Hole with No Tubes ZTR Crest Rim
    Wheel set (Rear): Tune Kong 32 Hole with No Tubes ZTR Crest Rim

    Weight 23,39
    I'm wondering what was the final cost of this bike?
    If I had a black light this place would look like a Jackson Pollock painting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by two-one View Post
    Very nice! And how is the braking on rough terrain, or in descents?
    Thank you. It's my first 29". Downhill it's exhilarating: the bike goes over all the obstacles, reaching speed I could not imagine with 26". I must anticipate the braking with 160 mm rotors


    Quote Originally Posted by reydin View Post
    I'm wondering what was the final cost of this bike?
    I can not give you a precise answer, 'cause the most of the components cames from my 26" frame. Approximately 3.900 euros (5k $)

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    very nice build

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizsladog View Post
    very nice build
    Thank you

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    Hi,
    Just comparing yours to mine, with 80mm forks your front end must be really low and the head angle would be really steep? have you measured it?
    I believe its designed for a 120mm fork?

    I have had a couple of outings on mine now, broke my rear hanger both times :roll: no fault of the frame just unlucky

    What i will say about the frame is its incredibly stiff and performs very well over the bumps, handles jumps better than expected and drops like there not there, its borderline all mountain machine!
    I run bigger rotor at the front as i feel 160mm doesn't stop you quick enough when you have the bigger wheels, but it will only house a 160mm at the rear. not really a problem as dont use it too much.

    I have a race coming up in 2 weeks, hardly done any training due to being ill etc and keep braking mech hangers, but i feel it will handle anything thrown at it.
    The bearings at the back dont give me any reason for concern as they are the same as a scott spark to which it is based.

    anyways enjoying it this side of the pond, got new bits and few more carbon bits ordered i'll post some new pictures once arrived.

    if you look at my sig you'll see photo's and weights

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    I once believed the bike to be designed for a 120mm fork, but I must take that back... the geometry indicates ~510mm axle-to-crown, but I realise now that the geometry is shown unsagged, which would mean a 100mm fork (~490mm sagged)

    I'm really itching to try this baby out, but I must restrain myself.... for now :P

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    Surely with a 80 mm fork, the ride is quite nervous....Even the 29" can not be lazy

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    any news, updates ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Hi,
    Just comparing yours to mine, with 80mm forks your front end must be really low and the head angle would be really steep? have you measured it?
    I believe its designed for a 120mm fork?
    ........
    Technical drawings give a fork length of 506 mm. This should be a 100 mm. With a 80 mm fork (fork lenght of 490 mm), in theory head tube angle has increased from 71 ° to 71.8°

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    Some news. The assembly has resulted in some unexpected. The first, readily solved with a turn of a drill bit, has been the clogging of the end portion of a hole for the passage of the cable of the front derailleur. It was blocked by the material of the texture and color of a wax. The second unexpected was about the mounting of the front derailleur. The technical drawings of the frame suggested the use of a direct mount derailleur with two screws placed at 22 mm apart. So I ordered an S3 Sram X7 type double. When assembled, unfortunately I saw it was impossible to bring down the chain to 22. This is because the front derailleur is attached to the frame via a plate: this is too thick, then advances too preventing the derailleur to bring down the chain, even with the small screw end of stroke throughout unscrewed. I therefore had to fall back on triple front derailleur Shimano (XTR), always direct mount.
    Finally I lost a little time to find the bolts for the fixing shock on the frame. The pin is M8, only that the nut for M8 (13 mm) did not enter into the lower connection (12 mm). So, since I wanted something light, I ordered two internally threaded titanium pins M8: the upper one measuring 31 mm, 36 mm lower. With four titanium screws M6/16 I assembled everything.

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    To the test. I adjusted the sag of the shock as indicated fox (9 mm lowering) and I inflated to 110 psi the two chambers of the fork (my weigh 73 kg). First, the riding position is as I wanted: the right saddle-handlebar height difference due to the choice of a fork travel of 80 mm. On paper, this choice would have unbalanced the whole, having regard to the rear travel of 100 mm, but finally I have to say I have not accused any type of problem. When using a large crown, it is noted that the chain line is just above the central pivot of the suspension scheme, ensuring independence of the work of the shock while pedaling.
    On asphalt I have not seen pedal bob, this occurred only on a very steep uphill using 22. I turned pro-pedal, problem solved! Technique downhill: this bike is a train passing over everything, branches, rocks, channels, etc.. Limited only by the front tire on the muddy fractions, I did not feel very safe due to the low grip. Technique uphill: the lower front of the bike here really helped me, allowing me to advance without the risk of wheelies. It is clear that having the rear wheel constantly glued to the ground thanks to the shock work, it improves the performance. Singletrack in the undergrowth with tight bends: Here I found a little awkward, because I was losing time in tight maneuvers due to the high wheelbase. On the other hand, however I regained the gap of the driver ahead by exploiting the inertia of the wheel after having taken speed. In conclusion I enjoyed it, and that's what matters most to me ...
    Bottom Line: I have to find a lateral draw bottle cage, this interferes with the shock

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    Edit. Meant to post in the other Carbon HT thread. Mods please delete.

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    Still think the fork should be 100-120mm, makes sense withe 100mm rear travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMMV View Post
    Edit. Meant to post in the other Carbon HT thread. Mods please delete.
    Sorry, but i didn't understand. Did I say something about the bike behaving as Ht?


    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Still think the fork should be 100-120mm, makes sense withe 100mm rear travel?
    It may not make sense, but I like to experiment

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    Some new photos after a ride
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    looks good, more racy set up than mine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoAl View Post
    Sorry, but i didn't understand. Did I say something about the bike behaving as Ht?




    It may not make sense, but I like to experiment
    Nope. I just replied to the wrong thread like a dummy. I was trying to reply to the other Chinese carbon frame thread, not this one (dual suspension).

    BTW-nice rig!

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    nice to hear that testing went good. if my order of GT Zaskar fails, i definitely order this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoAl View Post
    Some new photos after a ride
    So what was the final complete weight?

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    Mine comes in at 12kg but with big 2.4 mountain kings on (still muddy here in blighty) but I ordered some new rubber during the week, which will take it below 12 easily.
    Broke a spoke today on my CB wheels :evil:

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    here in Italy this frame is racing every weekend in hard xc and marathon races in one official team

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    Want to buy new frame need help

    I own a Fuji 29er hard tail that I want to convert to a suspended bike. I love the fm036 and want to buy the frame. Here are my questions:

    Are these sized pretty true? I'm 6'2" with 32" inseam riding a Large frame now. If you have experience with these can you recommend a size for me?

    Can you look at the components I am hoping to put on it and let me know what will not work?


    REAR TRIANGLE Fuji Altair 2, custom tapered 7005 aluminum with Edge S-bend MonoStay, Cold forged dropout with CNC'D disc mount and replaceable hanger
    FORK Rock Shox Reba 29 SL Air, 80mm Travel w/Remote PopLoc
    CRANKSET TruVativ Firex 3.1 GXP, 22/32/44T
    BOTTOM BRACKET TruVativ GXP Exterior Bearing System
    PEDALS Xpedo MF-3 clipless
    FRONT DERAILLEUR SRAM X.9, 34.9mm
    REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM X.9
    SHIFTERS SRAM X.9 Trigger, 27-speed
    CASSETTE SRAM PG-950, 11-34T 9-speed
    CHAIN KMC HG-73
    FRONT HUB Fuji Sealed Bearing Disc, 32H
    REAR HUB Fuji Sealed Bearing Disc, 32H
    SPOKES 14G Stainless Steel
    RIMS WTB Lazer Disc Trail 29", 32H DW w/ Single Eyelet
    TIRES Continental Mountain King 29 X 2.2
    TUBES CST Lite presta
    BRAKE SET Avid Juicy 7 Hydraulic Disc, 160R/185F mm rotor
    BRAKE LEVERS Avid Juicy 7
    HEADSET V.P. A-42E 1 1/8" Press Fit Integrated, 30mm spacers
    HANDLEBAR Fuji Pro Riser 15mm double butted aluminum 31.8mm
    STEM Fuji Pro Ultalite Forged Alloy +/- 7 degree
    TAPE/GRIP Fuji Dual Density Kraton rubber
    SADDLE WTB Rocket V Comp SE
    SEAT POST Fuji Forged Al micro adjust, 350mm
    SEAT CLAMP Fuji Superlite Alloy, 34.9mm Laser Etched
    WEIGHT, LB./KG. 28.96/13.135

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    Fm036 what shock

    I have a DHX Air 5.0 that is 7.875X2.25. I see the fm035 takes 165mm shock. Would this translate?

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    Nope ut would need to be 7.25

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    So what was the final complete weight?
    10,610 kg

    Quote Originally Posted by vontress View Post
    I own a Fuji 29er hard tail that I want to convert to a suspended bike. I love the fm036 and want to buy the frame. Here are my questions:

    Are these sized pretty true? I'm 6'2" with 32" inseam riding a Large frame now. If you have experience with these can you recommend a size for me?

    Can you look at the components I am hoping to put on it and let me know what will not work?

    FORK Rock Shox Reba 29 SL Air, 80mm Travel w/Remote PopLoc OK
    CRANKSET TruVativ Firex 3.1 GXP, 22/32/44T OK
    BOTTOM BRACKET TruVativ GXP Exterior Bearing System OK
    PEDALS Xpedo MF-3 clipless OK
    FRONT DERAILLEUR SRAM X.9, 34.9mm NO (it needs direct mount)
    REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM X.9 OK
    SHIFTERS SRAM X.9 Trigger, 27-speed OK
    CASSETTE SRAM PG-950, 11-34T 9-speed OK
    CHAIN KMC HG-73 OK
    FRONT HUB Fuji Sealed Bearing Disc, 32H OK
    REAR HUB Fuji Sealed Bearing Disc, 32H OK
    SPOKES 14G Stainless Steel OK
    RIMS WTB Lazer Disc Trail 29", 32H DW w/ Single Eyelet OK
    TIRES Continental Mountain King 29 X 2.2 OK
    TUBES CST Lite presta OK
    BRAKE SET Avid Juicy 7 Hydraulic Disc, 160R/185F mm rotor OK
    BRAKE LEVERS Avid Juicy 7 OK
    HEADSET V.P. A-42E 1 1/8" Press Fit Integrated, NO (it needs 1 1/8" - 1 1/2")
    HANDLEBAR Fuji Pro Riser 15mm double butted aluminum 31.8mm OK
    STEM Fuji Pro Ultalite Forged Alloy +/- 7 degree OK
    TAPE/GRIP Fuji Dual Density Kraton rubber OK
    SADDLE WTB Rocket V Comp SE OK
    SEAT POST Fuji Forged Al micro adjust, 350mm if 31,6 OK
    SEAT CLAMP Fuji Superlite Alloy, 34.9mm Laser Etched OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoAl View Post
    10,610 kg
    WOW thats a lot lighter than mine other than the fork (mines running 120mm) what else is different? What wheels set you running as mine arnt heavy?

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    My naked wheels weigh less than 1500 g (tune hubs and crest rims), saddle full carbon is about 90 g, ctk handlebar is 145 g, brake set is one of the lightest around, pedals, crankset and stem are also light enough
    Last edited by LoAl; 03-27-2012 at 03:58 AM.

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    rear shock mounting

    Hi,
    what parts did you had to buy in order to mount the rear shock? where did you buy it from?

    many thanks,

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    What size frame??

    I'm ordering the fm036 frame and wondered how the fit is. I'm 6'2" with short legs (32" inseam) I was thinking the 19 would be good bet. Any thoughts on those who have bought this bike??

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    I am ordering the fm036 from Hung Fu. I'm 6'2" with only 32" legs. I was thinking the 19 would be ideal. Anyone with experience out there think any different??

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    Regardin the shock, std fox 8mm fittings and std bolts from most lbs will suffice.
    Sizing im 5.10" and have the 17.5, and its just about on the upper limit, at 6.2" I would say 19 or 21??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gillsh View Post
    Hi,
    what parts did you had to buy in order to mount the rear shock? where did you buy it from?

    many thanks,
    I bought two titanium M8 axes from bikehardest.de, one 31 mm length, another 36 mm. They are fixed with four M6/16 screws


    Updating: new brand
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    If you go to www . Flyxii . Com its only $700 posted
    I see several posts saying this site offers shipping included in $700 price. Hong Fu wants $700 and $95 shipping. I could even live with that but they need 15 day production and another 30 days shipping. 45 days is a long time.

    Anyway, trying to get quote from the site above and all my emails get rejected. Has anyone had luck contacting this company? If so, how? Also, would be interested if shipping was included and how long it took

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    I ordered mine through their website, it gives you an order number and you include that in a PayPal transaction, 10days later it appeared at home all shiney and nice.

    Been great tbh, apart from I ordered some replacement gear hangers replacements after the event, and they turned up wrong. :roll:

    The free shipping is a selling point definitely and the free headset is worth mentioning. Remember im in the UK so it would cost them more to ship here, and the conversion to £ is worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    I run bigger rotor at the front as i feel 160mm doesn't stop you quick enough when you have the bigger wheels, but it will only house a 160mm at the rear
    can you just use an adapter to fit a 180 rotor?

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    I haven't got a 180 to try, but ill post a pic of the clearance if it helps?

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    not the best picture, but its hard to get an angle that you could see the clearence. i would say 180 might be ok, but it would be close.

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    What Detailer hanger?

    I just bought full suspension 29er from flyxxi.com. I' short on time and would like to order derailer hanger before frame ships. I see they have 5 or so different hangers and I don't know what one I need. First, does one come with the bike? If it does, it slows down my need to rush. Second, how do I know what one to order? It must be based off of the deraileryour running?? I am converting a 29er hard tail that has SRAM x9 derailer. Not sure the size. If it helps it's on 2009 fuji Tahoe sl. Do you know if I have to change derailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vontress View Post
    I just bought full suspension 29er from flyxxi.com. I' short on time and would like to order derailer hanger before frame ships. I see they have 5 or so different hangers and I don't know what one I need. First, does one come with the bike? If it does, it slows down my need to rush. Second, how do I know what one to order? It must be based off of the deraileryour running?? I am converting a 29er hard tail that has SRAM x9 derailer. Not sure the size. If it helps it's on 2009 fuji Tahoe sl. Do you know if I have to change derailer?
    Should come with one (their road and HT frames do anyway).
    Ask them to ship additionals.
    I have seen others do this and I have asked for 2 spares with my FM056 HT.

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    It does come with a hanger. I tried to order two others after but got sent the wrong ones. Easier to buy off eBay once you get the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoAl View Post
    Some new photos after a ride
    Pedazo de pepino. Enhorabuena.
    Congratulations!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoAl View Post
    Finally I lost a little time to find the bolts for the fixing shock on the frame. The pin is M8, only that the nut for M8 (13 mm) did not enter into the lower connection (12 mm). So, since I wanted something light, I ordered two internally threaded titanium pins M8: the upper one measuring 31 mm, 36 mm lower. With four titanium screws M6/16 I assembled everything.
    Hi LoAI,

    Where did you order the shock mounting pin & screw set? How much?

    Thanks.

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    Where did you order the shock mounting pin & screw set? How much?

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    Hi ang,

    I ordered from www.bikehardest.de. I don't remember the price, I think around 20-25 Euros

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiro View Post
    Pedazo de pepino. Enhorabuena.
    Congratulations!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by killerbunny View Post
    Looks great..
    Thanks a lot

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    pay attention that the photo tricks: the price does not include the screws!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonal.jason View Post
    Normally it will come with one derailleur hanger, already assembled on the frame, and you can ask the seller to offer your some spare hangers, such as below photo (it's model M7 for reference). Spare 1 or 2pcs maybe also can be free when you purchase the frame.
    carbonal.jason your photo of the rear derailleur hanger looks back to front compared to the picture on Hungfu website



    My chinese LTK023 hardtail rear derailleur hanger looks similar to the FM036 hanger

    youtube / strava. Back on a bike after 25years

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    I pulled the trigger and bought the frame from Flyxii. They said 3-4 weeks and bike arrived in 9 days. Pretty remarkable.

    Now I have a wierd twist. My bike shop tells me that the front derailer is a very special set up that takes a Specialized specific derailer that they don't even know if they can get. I don't see anything on MTBR about that. Do you know what they might be talking about? Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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    We used an XT e-typeand took off the bracket.

    We used a shimano XT e type. I know there is also a direct mount e type but you can buy the old fashioned one and remove the bracket.

    Amazon.com: Shimano XT M780 E-type 3x10 Front Derailleur: Sports & Outdoors

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    Quote Originally Posted by subspd View Post
    Well said the rear shock prices retail is just stupid high compared to a frameset. That said with the HT running about $400 if the FS can come in under $700 or so it would be worth it. But if your looking at over $1k with a rear shock their are other options like a spearfish.
    Isn't this an aluminum frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vontress View Post
    I pulled the trigger and bought the frame from Flyxii. They said 3-4 weeks and bike arrived in 9 days. Pretty remarkable.
    Hi vontress,

    Can you post a close-up of the shock mount holes(front & rear)?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ang View Post
    Hi vontress,

    Can you post a close-up of the shock mount holes(front & rear)?

    Thanks!
    Is this good enough?
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    Thanks vwsurfbum! I have a DT Swiss EX200 shock 165mm on hand...thinking about getting those shock eye bushing from CRC in order to mount it onto the FM036 frame which I have not placed an order yet.

    Also, can you share the riding experience with this frame?

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    Does this bike looks like the Scott Spark 29 RC? The front triangle is different, but the rear looks identical.

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    its almost identicle to the Scott, all the internal routings are te same, just the top tube is different.
    The dt Swiss shock will be great, im looking for the remote lock out version
    Get those bushings ordered and the frame!

    mIne has take everything I've thrown at it, very light stiff and feels like more than 110 if travel at rear.
    I'm running 120mm up front and its perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    mIne has take everything I've thrown at it, very light stiff and feels like more than 110 if travel at rear.
    I'm running 120mm up front and its perfect
    Glad to hear that 120mm up front is perfect. I plan to run a Marzocchi 29er 120mm, wont mind more travel up front for rocky trail.

    However, may need more time to locate a suitable e-type front deraileur.

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    I was running it single ring with a guide but I put on a old lx direct mount I had laying about.
    Loads of choices on derailiure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reydin View Post
    Wow , it might grow on me but right now, fugly comes to mind.
    IDK if it looks that bad IMO, but I think it looks like an amalgamation of different designs. I can see the Trek (superfly, Rumblefish), Yeti, and Specialized camber in there. Seems the Chinese are taking American designs and amalgamating them together, but I guess its to be expected when you design them here and give them the build sheets to make them. The first pic is the specialize camber by the way...
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    It seems like it could be built up for under $3000 full XTR and fox shock front and rear. Still a good deal. I couldn't even get a Tallboy Carbon D kit for $3000 and those come with a no frills package and recon silver front fork, but a name you can trust. I'm curious on these frames on the durability and longevity on them. It is a good deal if you have the money to experiment with.

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    Is anyone actually entertaining the idea that the subject of this thread looks anything like those four bikes? I mean, any more than they resemble each other, or any other bike? Why do these threads always have to wear those types of comments?
    "Amalgamation of designs" Is that a joke? Are we accusing Trek of an amalgamation of designs? Yeti perhaps? If not, why not?

    Back to reality, can someone make a point by point account of what has bearings, what has bushes, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    can someone make a point by point account of what has bearings, what has bushes, etc.
    Yes.

    Main pivot, Sealed Bearing.
    Rocker pivot, Sealed Bearings.
    Seat stay pivots (lower). Bushes.
    Seat stay pivots (upper) Sealed Bearings.
    Shock mounts. Bushes.

    does that help?

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    the lower seat stay pivot rotates less than the others, smart.

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    Thanks vwsurfbum.

    There was a few people concerned about this throughout the thread. That seems normal. I recently put needle rollers in my shock eyes and it had an amazing effect. I wonder if there are any available the size of the seat stay bushes?

    Also, I wonder if there is any variation in this between the different sellers, because there doesn't seem to be anything out of the ordinary there.

    The finish on yours looks great in those pics.

    I'd be finding it hard not to have a go at this with a 142x12 rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    Is anyone actually entertaining the idea that the subject of this thread looks anything like those four bikes? I mean, any more than they resemble each other, or any other bike? Why do these threads always have to wear those types of comments?
    "Amalgamation of designs" Is that a joke? Are we accusing Trek of an amalgamation of designs? Yeti perhaps? If not, why not?
    Why does no one entertain the idea that they didn't "copy"? I mean, they're Asians, like the ones that typically score better than a majority of the other class in math, science, etc. JKing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Why does no one entertain the idea that they didn't "copy"? I mean, they're Asians, like the ones that typically score better than a majority of the other class in math, science, etc. JKing.
    Except that jokes are usually funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Why does no one entertain the idea that they didn't "copy"? I mean, they're Asians, like the ones that typically score better than a majority of the other class in math, science, etc. JKing.
    Yeh, people misunderstand the nature of Chinese manufacturing. They are not just cheaper, they are better, quicker, and have more trained engineers. Depressing but true.

    sent from one of my 4 gold leafed iphone 4s's

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    Also that the factory that this is made in actually make carbon frames for the big manufacturers

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    There was a few people concerned about this throughout the thread. That seems normal. I recently put needle rollers in my shock eyes and it had an amazing effect. I wonder if there are any available the size of the seat stay bushes?
    Hi MagicCarpet,

    What size of needle bearings do you order for the shock eyes? I wonder if DT Swiss shock eyes are of "standard" size as there are bushings already installed in the shock eyes.

    Thanks.

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    I have a Fox RP2 and I think it used 15mm needle bearings. Your seller should be able to tell you what your shock uses. I'd probably steer clear of the Enduro bearings as they are hit and miss regarding play and drove me mad. There are other brands out there. Hopefully of higher quality.

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    Complete FRM bike based on the FM036 frame

    Looks like FRM has started to take pre orders on complete bikes based on the FM036 frame, ranging from 4600 to 7300 EUR!

    "Carbon fibre monocoque made in Asia. Painted and assembled in Italy"

    Apparently I can't post links yet, so you will need to type......

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    Wow that's mental money!

    FRM Bike Technology S.r.l.

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    Why can't you just use a M8 Nyloc on the lower shock mount similar to the upper? Will it not fit?

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    There's no room for a nyloc nut, but I used a m8 round headed Allen sex bolts.
    Also just ordered some offset shock bushings for the rear shock.

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    Can you post a link to those fasteners for the lower shock mount

    I had to MacGiver something. But I would like to find something off the shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob13bob View Post
    Yeh, people misunderstand the nature of Chinese manufacturing. They are not just cheaper, they are better, quicker, and have more trained engineers. Depressing but true.

    sent from one of my 4 gold leafed iphone 4s's

    I disagree, there is little in regards to innovation in the chinese culture due to their government.

    Most of "made in China" labels usually have an American engineered design behind them. Cheaper labor and manufacturing is the main reason so much is done there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbwallace View Post
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    OFFSET BUSHINGS.com

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    Hi is it a 165mm shock i need?

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    Yes.

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    I am considering one of these frames. What seems to be the best company to deal with? It seems that several companies are selling what looks like the same frame some using a different part number. Many do not list a price. It would be nice to have a thread started where folks post up their builds of these frames and their reviews. Something without all the speculation and anti or pro Chinese rhetoric.

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