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    ... and if we just ... DingDingDing! Canfield comes out Yelling & Screaming w/something stiff, black & shiny

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    And the winner is...

    I just want to say thank you to Canfield and more specific, Sean G. I had the frame within the same week i called it in. Excellent Customer service. Thank you

    Also, send me over the Nimble 9 protype once they are available. i'd be happy to give it some love








    And i was able to keep my gear ratio with no chain tensioner and i was also able to use a no stretch BMX chain.






    I had to get a new seat post and seat post collar








    Gorgeous day to give the bike some beating.

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    Killer looking bike! I've been contemplating one, too. Is your bashguard custom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    Round 1

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    Nice ride

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    You sure love your shiny bike parts.

    Is that the semi-polished or black chrome frame?
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    Solid looking bike and build. Well done Sir!

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    So.....how many days until this one breaks?


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    That is awesome (and not surprising) that they took care of you.
    I love steel, but for really aggressive riding the yelli seems like a much better choice than the N9.

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    It is the black chrome. I like the color, it's very similar to a darker TI frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    You sure love your shiny bike parts.

    Is that the semi-polished or black chrome frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    That is awesome (and not surprising) that they took care of you.
    I love steel, but for really aggressive riding the yelli seems like a much better choice than the N9.
    I think you can build a much stiffer stronger bike than you can with the nimble9 frame.
    The Yelli is built super burly, and can fit the new breed of 140mm forks with tapered steerers. It also can accept most dropper posts. Add a set of wide/strong wheels and serious rubber and you have a super capable mountain bike that can keep up on all day epics with any crosscountry/trail/allmountain/lightgravity setup. It's silly the lines I try to hit with this bike and it somehow comes out on the other end with me still on top of it.

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    Good for you and good on Canfield. So according to this, Canfield is saying the Yelli will take some serious punishment in it's current iteration, but not the Nimble, interesting
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    Scott, that thing looks GREAT! You have one of four Black Chrome Smalls... and your build suits it very well!!!

    Enjoy it!

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    Saw-wheat!
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    I suppose, it is somewhat custom.



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    Killer looking bike! I've been contemplating one, too. Is your bashguard custom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Good for you and good on Canfield. So according to this, Canfield is saying the Yelli will take some serious punishment in it's current iteration, but not the Nimble, interesting
    Well, one of them has a tapered HT, very fat tubes, a joint between the TT and the DT, and a DT gusset. The other does not. I don't think they were hiding anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    Well, one of them has a tapered HT, very fat tubes, a joint between the TT and the DT, and a DT gusset. The other does not. I don't think they were hiding anything.
    Plus the Canfields, just in case anyone was confused, had the little chart on the website that rated the Yelli higher for AM and the Nimble higher for XC use. Just because a bike has AM abilities, doesn't mean it should be ridden off a cliff.

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    I love that black chrome.

    I need to get one of the new Canfield head tube badges for my Yelli. They look awesome.

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    Never looked on their site honestly for the literature on both bikes, just going by what I see them being used and makes total sense if the Nimble is built of lighter weight steel for the subtleties and is aimed more at XC riding. I'm sold on this geo for anything but serious XC racing, so again, makes perfect sense, just don't figure why it's not something that's been brought to light before when people ask about the 2 frames as direct comparisons.

    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    Well, one of them has a tapered HT, very fat tubes, a joint between the TT and the DT, and a DT gusset. The other does not. I don't think they were hiding anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    Plus the Canfields, just in case anyone was confused, had the little chart on the website that rated the Yelli higher for AM and the Nimble higher for XC use. Just because a bike has AM abilities, doesn't mean it should be ridden off a cliff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Never looked on their site honestly for the literature on both bikes, just going by what I see them being used and makes total sense if the Nimble is built of lighter weight steel for the subtleties and is aimed more at XC riding. I'm sold on this geo for anything but serious XC racing, so again, makes perfect sense, just don't figure why it's not something that's been brought to light before when people ask about the 2 frames as direct comparisons.
    Actually, I have seen a number of posts dealing with this issue, but there is sooo much information about both these bikes in those big threads that information is easy to miss.

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    If you're talking about those pages and pages long threads, then yeah, I gave up on following those a long time ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    Actually, I have seen a number of posts dealing with this issue, but there is sooo much information about both these bikes in those big threads that information is easy to miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    I love steel, but for really aggressive riding the yelli seems like a much better choice than the N9.
    Concur.
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    What saddle is that? Like it.

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    To the OP, great looking bike, I have blue one on the way this week, your post got me stoked for it to arrive...What gear ratio are you running? I am going to set mine up SS and I have 1/8" chain I wan to use. I read where people found a magic gear with 32/21, but I was assuming that was 3/32? Anyway, be interested to know what your ratio is as I'd like to use my beefier chain.

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    What does chain width have to do with the gear ratio? 3/32 and 1/8 only describes the width of the chain, not the length of the chain links. So both chains will fit identically on any gear ratio.

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    That's a great looking bike!

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    Ouch!

    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    so.....how many days until this one breaks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by isis07734 View Post
    What saddle is that? Like it.
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    That bike rocks.. If it were mine I'd put a black fork on it and call it Lemmy
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    Updates?

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    Such a clean build! I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2:01 View Post
    Updates?
    The bike is really really stiff. I have been throwing whatever abuse i can find on this badboy. it is holding up great.

    take a look for yourself.
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    Whew ! I saw you bumped the thread and expected to see you say you broke it. Ha

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    240+days apparently....

    This one lasted 60+ days longer than the others....


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    So.....how many days until this one breaks?




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    You should change your screen name to FrameKilla
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    What were you doing when it broke? Or did you not notice until after the ride or later? Interested to hear more. My Yelli frame is still holding out really well, but I'm also not riding the terrain as tough as you are. No where near that many rocks here. I'm on roots and dirt.

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    At least it's not the headtube this time.
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    Ouch man, Ouch! That hurts!

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    Maybe time to try the new "beefed up" N9. Or go to a Chromag Surface, or Custom Steel built for your needs.....

    Sucks though, once again that was yet another sharp build!!!!
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    How heavy are you?

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    The new nimble looks indestructible...
    I do notice a fair amount of compliance in my Yelli frame considering the gussets and big aluminum tubes.
    The wheel is a extension of the foot

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    165 lbs with gear on (backpack, etc.)


    Quote Originally Posted by wobbem View Post
    How heavy are you?

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    Amazing you've managed to break the yelli there at your weight. I'm no metallurgist but presumably its as a result of the rough ground you ride finally resulting in fatigue on the weld. Maybe time for a full sus bike?

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    So is Canfield issuing another warranty replacement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    So is Canfield issuing another warranty replacement?
    Great question man, Great question!

    I bought my firstNimble 9 in August 2011



    then it broke in February 2012 and was replaced (warranty) soon after.

    and in September 2012 i cracked the headtube again. Since they didn't have a Nimble 9 they replaced it with current build which was this Yelli Screamy

    based on their 2 year warranty that they provide this are all in the realm of warranty replacement.

    I got a phone call from Chris Canfield and said that they were going to do an upcharge of $200 + shipping for the replacement.

    So, to answer your question that if they were sending me a warranty replacement, i would say yes with an upcharge of $200 + shipping.

    I hope i explained good enough that it made sense.

    Thanks

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    Not bad at all, so getting the updated N9 this time around? I bet all your broken frames make for great wall art or did Canfield get 'em back?

    Either way, stoked to see the new build, keep us posted!
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    Honestly speaking, i just noticed it on the seat tube after a bike ride in Chunkcrest, CA. The terrain i was riding were considered double black diamnond based on the amount chunks on the trail. Not necessarily DH...

    My local trail is this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshM View Post
    What were you doing when it broke? Or did you not notice until after the ride or later? Interested to hear more. My Yelli frame is still holding out really well, but I'm also not riding the terrain as tough as you are. No where near that many rocks here. I'm on roots and dirt.

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    I think that's a damned good deal considering, since haven't seen any I don't think of these posted busted. Know one thing for sure, if you get a frame and don't bust it the manufacturer knows it'll hold up to pretty much anyone
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    .....So, to answer your question that if they were sending me a warranty replacement, i would say yes with an upcharge of $200 + shipping.

    I hope i explained good enough that it made sense.

    Thanks
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    I agree. The bike looks a lot more stout especially on the headtube area where i have broken them in the past. I also like the tube that reinforces the seat tube to the top tube.

    Also, based on what Chris Canfield had told me over the phone, the new N9 is very stiff much like the Yelli but in time they will start to flex after the initial break-in period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Doom View Post
    The new nimble looks indestructible...
    I do notice a fair amount of compliance in my Yelli frame considering the gussets and big aluminum tubes.

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    Shoes break in, steel frames don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    Also, based on what Chris Canfield had told me over the phone, the new N9 is very stiff much like the Yelli but in time they will start to flex after the initial break-in period.

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    When I first saw the title I thought Canfield dropped a FS Yelli on us!! BUT NO

    At 165 you must ride HARD.

    I am 275 w/o gear and have taken my bike off of multiple 4-5" drops!! haha

    No issues yet

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    You must really like canfeild.... 200+ shipping!?!?
    A couple hundred more and you can go elsewhere.
    Lots of good agrasive 29er hardtails out there.

    I would turn the page on canfeild and start a new chapter.

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    This will be the last frame. i get from Canfield if it doesn't last more than a year. If it breaks, i will be asking for a full refund. I actually paid $250 because i got the limited (chrome) + the shipping.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    You must really like canfeild.... 200+ shipping!?!?
    A couple hundred more and you can go elsewhere.
    Lots of good agrasive 29er hardtails out there.

    I would turn the page on canfeild and start a new chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post


    Shoes break in, steel frames don't.
    ^^^ QFT ^^^

    Hopefully the steel frame will flex enough in the tubes to avoid levering at the weld and cracking.

    I guess you ride with other people, do any of them have hardtails, and are they breaking theirs?
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    Have to ask the same question as Bob, who else that you ride with is breaking frames like you do??? Either Canfield has very loyal customers who don't post up about broken frames or you're in a VERY small minority, might be time to evaluate your riding style and expectations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    This will be the last frame. i get from Canfield if it doesn't last more than a year. If it breaks, i will be asking for a full refund. I actually paid $250 because i got the limited (chrome) + the shipping.
    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    I guess you ride with other people, do any of them have hardtails, and are they breaking theirs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Have to ask the same question as Bob, who else that you ride with is breaking frames like you do??? Either Canfield has very loyal customers who don't post up about broken frames or you're in a VERY small minority, might be time to evaluate your riding style and expectations.
    I'll second this. After watching your videos I'd say I'm not surprised by your frame issues. I think most other companies would have labeled this as "abuse" after your second failure.

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    watching the vids you posted just wondering about standing v. Sitting when going over all those rocks and the amount of seat post exposed. maybe try a dropper post on the new frame and more standing just for insurance?

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    I ride with various people from XC, DH to Techy stuff but i primarily ride with my wife and she rides a full suspension and no, she hasn't broken any frames.

    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    ^^^ QFT ^^^

    Hopefully the steel frame will flex enough in the tubes to avoid levering at the weld and cracking.

    I guess you ride with other people, do any of them have hardtails, and are they breaking theirs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    I ride with various people from XC, DH to Techy stuff but i primarily ride with my wife and she rides a full suspension and no, she hasn't broken any frames.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    This will be the last frame. i get from Canfield if it doesn't last more than a year. If it breaks, i will be asking for a full refund. I actually paid $250 because i got the limited (chrome) + the shipping.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    Gorgeous day to give the bike some beating.
    Let me get this straight, you ride DH on a cross country / AM hardtail with the seatpost fully extended and you are surprised when you've broken three frames (and one at the seat tube). Not only that, but you have the gall to publicly blame the manufacturer after they replaced multiple frames for you and DEMAND a refund two years later? Clearly something is horribly wrong with your riding style and your attitude.

    Go get yourself a nice On One, you deserve it. You are the definition of an assclown.

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    WHOA slow your roll there partner.

    Number 1, i don't ride the seatpost fully extended unless i am climbing and when i am riding DH or tech the seatpost is FULLY slammed! WHO rides DH with their seatpost extended? That must be YOU!

    And who is publicly blaming who here? I've not blamed Canfield for anything perhaps you just typed your mouth off without reading my post. If anything, i've only given praises to them for taking care of me.

    Number 2, I have not demanded anything from them.

    Number 3, All 3 frames broke before 2 years from when i first originally broke the first frame August 2011.

    You are as asshat IDIOT!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    Let me get this straight, you ride DH on a cross country / AM hardtail with the seatpost fully extended, and you are surprised when you've broken three frames at the seat-tube. Not only that, but you have the gall to publicly blame the manufacturer after they replaced multiple frames for you and DEMAND a refund two years later? Clearly something is horribly wrong with your riding style and your attitude.

    Go get yourself a nice On One, you deserve it. You are the definition of an assclown.
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    Those photos you edited in demonstrate quite well that you were using these XC bikes outside their intended use. That there is Jedi country son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    Those photos you edited in demonstrate quite well that you were using these XC bikes outside their intended use. That there is Jedi country son.
    Here's a quote taken directly from Canfield's website description of the Yelli Screamy:

    "The Yelli is the original aggressive all mountain 29er hardtail capable of anything!"

    That statement alone tells me that Canfield expects the Yelli to be able to handle the type of riding posted in the pics and videos in this thread. If he was riding it outside of the design intent, Canfield would have every right to refuse any warranty replacement. But the fact that they keep giving him new frames demonstrates that the OP is riding his bikes exactly as the manufacturer has intended. And more than one Canfield employee has posted on this thread so you know that they've seen the pics and video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12snap View Post
    If he was riding it outside of the design intent, Canfield would have every right to refuse any warranty replacement. But the fact that they keep giving him new frames demonstrates that the OP is riding his bikes exactly as the manufacturer has intended.
    This is bad logic. The reason they keep giving him frames is that they have unreal customer service. Suggesting that this implies that he was using the frame within reasonable limits is incorrect. Canfield wasn't there when he was riding and can only rely on his description of the riding and the broken frame to determine the warranty. The fact that he has broken three frames of different types and that he is the only person to have done so *does* demonstrate that he is probably using the frames outside their intended parameters.

    That marketing copy is a bit liberal, however in US law marketing copy typically doesn't indicate a contract in regards to the legal rights of a buyer.

    So really, do you think it's a great idea to take a hardtail 29er down a 30+ foot rock garden as part of your normal riding routine (as evidenced by the numerous photos of this being done)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    So really, do you think it's a great idea to take a hardtail 29er down a 30+ foot rock garden as part of your normal riding routine (as evidenced by the numerous photos of this being done)?
    When I saw that downhill rock garden photo I thought, that wouldn't be fun (for me). But, at the same time I thought, and here's the point of my post, it isn't any of my business because it isn't hurting me. More power to him if he wants to ride it.
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    The broken frames are obviously the result of excessive leverage generated by too-wide bars and a too-short stem. Try a 120mm stem and 25" wide flat bars and the frames will last longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    When I saw that downhill rock garden photo I thought, that wouldn't be fun (for me). But, at the same time I thought, and here's the point of my post, it isn't any of my business because it isn't hurting me. More power to him if he wants to ride it.
    I said that in regards to what is and isn't a reasonable expectation of 'abuse' for a cross country frame. As far as how the guy wants to ride beyond that isn't my business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    I said that in regards to what is and isn't a reasonable expectation of 'abuse' for a cross country frame. As far as how the guy wants to ride beyond that isn't my business.
    What makes it a cross country frame?

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    I have been riding a Yelli for 9 months--great bike--most fun bike I have ever owned. I was offering advice to the OP in my post above, based on my own experience. there's potential for a lot of exposed seat post on this bike, even when the saddle is below the stem height. I find myself trying to stand more because at times I get lazy and sit when going over the same kind of chunk or hitting drops. But I don't think riding this frame over rough stuff consistently is abuse at all-it's a very burly frame. Once I get the money I'd like to get a dropper so that the post is out of sight and mind. To me it looks like the OP is riding his bike on the kind of trails that it was built to handle. We can always work to improve our riding technique but that doesn't mean we are abusing a bike.

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    Most everything I have seen him post are cross country trails. True they are an the more technical side, but I would venture to say that is what that bike is built for.

    And not taking anything away from Scott, as I know he can rip it up. But I don't think he has been riding long, and most riders that are new (first couple of years), especially if they are super fast, are a lot harder on parts than experienced riders. Something about becoming smoother as time goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G. View Post
    You are as asshat IDIOT!
    I realize this is just a typo, but it's a damn funny one. (No offense intended)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feldybikes View Post
    I realize this is just a typo, but it's a damn funny one. (No offense intended)
    You just had to rip open the wound!

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    I wouldn't say so, maybe in for your riding skills, but others obviously are more talented and enjoy testing themselves. Personally I like riding stuff exactly like that, however I like to ride it slow and navigate the rocks, no using speed to just zoom over and hit everything. FYI, none of the Canfield bikes carry an XC designation for usage, all are either Trail or above. Still damn curious how he broke these three frames, but damn sure the trails weren't above the intended use, but how and at what speed you ride a trail can determine what the outcome will be in terms of frame longevity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    Those photos you edited in demonstrate quite well that you were using these XC bikes outside their intended use. That there is Jedi country son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    I wouldn't say so, maybe in for your riding skills, but others obviously are more talented and enjoy testing themselves.
    No.
    Last edited by Vertr; 06-10-2013 at 01:06 PM.

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    The trail LOOKS like Noble Canyon; many socal MTBr's, including my wife and I, ride these on XC bikes. The way Canfield advertises their hardtails, they shouldn't break on these trails.

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    Holy crap! You are rough on em! I am curious how your components hold up to that kind of abuse. What else are you breaking on a regular basis?

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