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    Quote Originally Posted by M0riarty View Post
    This is the 41.15mm kit and no shims are necessary.

    RWC SHOCK EYE NEEDLE BEARING KITS
    Thanks! I just ordered a Monarch RCT3 and will likely try the debonair can on it. I also ordered the RWC kit for the upper hardware. I'm going to use 'normal' hardware for the bottom. On a 2014 carbon, does anyone know what size I need? Also, should I order Fox or Rockshox hardware--anyone have a preference? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by llamapoo View Post
    Yes, I believe the owner's manual is the 3 pager. I use that technical paper for nearly everything - a combination of that for part numbers and torque settings and the glossy catalogue for original parts spec (OEM names - I've still had to call Easton to get wheel specs though when I rebuilt them).

    From the sounds of it, you've already found the three pager online. If you need any help with the original catalogue for parts and geometry, let me know and I'll scan the pages and send it to you.
    Any chance you still have that? I'm looking at a carbon frame that has the bolt on axle, not the maxle, and trying to see if it's 135 or 142 spacing, and what diameter that axle is. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. Rock View Post
    Any chance you still have that? I'm looking at a carbon frame that has the bolt on axle, not the maxle, and trying to see if it's 135 or 142 spacing, and what diameter that axle is. Thanks
    send me pics of what you are trying to measure and I'll email you the OM.

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    I have been hearing some creaking when I put a lot of pressure on the bars or if I'm track standing. So I took apart my head set to check. In your opinion, would this be considered a crack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barryadam View Post
    send me pics of what you are trying to measure and I'll email you the OM.

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    Sorry, I guess I only get weekly updates on this thread. B.Rock and barryadam, just let me know if you need the OM and the specs page from the catalogue and I'll send them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifly3Dallday View Post
    I have been hearing some creaking when I put a lot of pressure on the bars or if I'm track standing. So I took apart my head set to check. In your opinion, would this be considered a crack?
    Best I can tell from picture is that is not a crack. Creaking noise comes from headset. Mine has cane creek 40 headset and I cannot stop the creaking either. Some have recommended over tightening headset but I think best is to upgrade to a cane creek 110 series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccook905 View Post
    Best I can tell from picture is that is not a crack. Creaking noise comes from headset. Mine has cane creek 40 headset and I cannot stop the creaking either. Some have recommended over tightening headset but I think best is to upgrade to a cane creek 110 series.
    Just did that a couple weeks ago after the stock headset bearings pretty much rotted out. So far so good i.e. no creaking. Also threw an RWC needle bearing on the rear shock. Wow, now that was an underrated upgrade. My 2015 Carbon Atlas is it still a head turner on the trail. The shiny carbon/teal blue finish gets a lot of nice comments from folks riding around on matte black clone bikes.

    It's been easy enough to work on and my LBS does excellent work and has all the tools. It seems the market is trying to get closer to this bike just as Devinci went in another direction. Shame. I plan to run this until the carbon is ground to dust.

    My next upgrade will eventually be a set of carbon hoops to replace my SunRingle set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken6503 View Post
    Just did that a couple weeks ago after the stock headset bearings pretty much rotted out. So far so good i.e. no creaking. Also threw an RWC needle bearing on the rear shock. Wow, now that was an underrated upgrade. My 2015 Carbon Atlas is it still a head turner on the trail. The shiny carbon/teal blue finish gets a lot of nice comments from folks riding around on matte black clone bikes.

    It's been easy enough to work on and my LBS does excellent work and has all the tools. It seems the market is trying to get closer to this bike just as Devinci went in another direction. Shame. I plan to run this until the carbon is ground to dust.

    My next upgrade will eventually be a set of carbon hoops to replace my SunRingle set.
    Yeah, I scratched my head on Devinci's decision to drop the Atlas.
    As noted all the new 29ers coming out resemble the Atlas.
    Just picked up one of those 100mm reverbs from merlin for mine:0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthem1 View Post
    Yeah, I scratched my head on Devinci's decision to drop the Atlas.
    As noted all the new 29ers coming out resemble the Atlas.
    Just picked up one of those 100mm reverbs from merlin for mine:0)
    I talked with the company about 6 months ago. I had concerns about parts and components even the frame had a lifetime warranty. I didn't want them to force me into a 27.5 in case my frame ever went kaboom. They said they had all the molds and materials to replace any component indefinitely. I hope that remains the case.

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    Ahh thanks for letting me know. I have a FSA (can't see the model number) headset right now. I wonder how the performance differs. By the way, have any of you guys seen a very small hair line crack coming from the seat tube dot going out in an angle. How big do these need to get till I need to worry. Sorry guys for my paranoia, but I just want to keep on riding it as well instead of taking it to the lbs with a probability of getting blown off. I second the ease of dissambly/reassembly as well as peoples reaction when they try to discover what this bike is haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthem1 View Post
    Yeah, I scratched my head on Devinci's decision to drop the Atlas.
    As noted all the new 29ers coming out resemble the Atlas.
    Just picked up one of those 100mm reverbs from merlin for mine:0)
    Resemble, yes; ride the same; no. My 2013 carbon Atlas was a good bike, but saying it rides like a modern trailbike would be wrong, the seattube is way too slack for that among some other differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegard View Post
    Resemble, yes; ride the same; no. My 2013 carbon Atlas was a good bike, but saying it rides like a modern trailbike would be wrong, the seattube is way too slack for that among some other differences.
    Hi Vegard, have you been able to compare the Atlas to some more recent bikes? What are your impressions of the differenceso?
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    I have had a chance to ride mine back to back with many of the "new trail bikes"
    The Pivot trail is a sweet bike, maybe a little more efficient climbing due to the rear link, but no where near as fun to throw around due to the longer chain stays.
    Same applies to the first gen Ripley.

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    Devinci Atlas Carbon

    I just built up an alloy 2015 Atlas after riding many "modern trail bikes". From Ti aggro hardtails to full on enduro machines. The Atlas is seldom matched on the versatility front, even when compared to the latest crop of trail bikes. The geo could do with a few minor tweaks but honestly I am loving it as it is.

    I am running a 140mm fork, 760mm bars and 170mm cranks with the frame set to the low position. This thing rips.


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    [QUOTE=hmorsi;12745392]I just built up an alloy 2015 Atlas after riding many "modern trail bikes". From Ti aggro hardtails to full on enduro machines. The Atlas is seldom matched on the versatility front, even when compared to the latest crop of trail bikes. The geo could do with a few minor tweaks but honestly I am loving it as it is.

    I am running a 140mm fork, 760mm bars and 170mm cranks with the frame set to the low position. This thing rips.

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    I could not agree more.
    I have ridden most of the new trail 29ers, none of them have compelled me to upgrade my 2015 carbo Atlas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmorsi View Post
    I just built up an alloy 2015 Atlas after riding many "modern trail bikes". From Ti aggro hardtails to full on enduro machines. The Atlas is seldom matched on the versatility front, even when compared to the latest crop of trail bikes. The geo could do with a few minor tweaks but honestly I am loving it as it is.

    I am running a 140mm fork, 760mm bars and 170mm cranks with the frame set to the low position. This thing rips.

    That's a sexy beast. What manitou fork are you running?


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    I must say, I like this bike. I've looked at the specs and I'm possibly in the market for a racey 29er. Too bad they stopped making it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    That's a sexy beast. What manitou fork are you running?


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    Thanks! The Atlas is a good looking bike indeed. The fork is a Manitou Minute.

    Here is a shot from my ride yesterday.

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    Nice... How do you like it? What size and riding style are you? I was very close to grabbing one to replace my busted Revelation but at almost 200lbs kitted up I have read that the older Tower was flexy. I had a 100mm Tower Pro on my old hardtail that I loved but felt that it would get overwhelmed when I would hit seriously rocky stuff. Really wish that Manitou would make a 34mm stanchioned 29er fork other than the Magnum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Nice... How do you like it? What size and riding style are you? I was very close to grabbing one to replace my busted Revelation but at almost 200lbs kitted up I have read that the older Tower was flexy. I had a 100mm Tower Pro on my old hardtail that I loved but felt that it would get overwhelmed when I would hit seriously rocky stuff. Really wish that Manitou would make a 34mm stanchioned 29er fork other than the Magnum.
    I have about 4 rides on it so far and liking it. It's the 140mm Travel version. Easy to set up, predictable along the travel range and no excessive dive on the slow speed technical manoeuvring on steep sections without having to increase the pressure significantly and thus sacrificing some of that small bump response.

    I have a 120mm Tower Pro on my Ti hardtail and also like it. Slightly flexy but I am thinking the flex might be the wheels on the hardtail since they're a Stans Crest rims lightweight build. The only times I do feel the flex is when pushing hard in corners, the 2.3 tire would slightly buzz the plastic Marsh Guard front fender mounted on the reverse arch.

    I am about 76kg geared up on a medium frame. I'd describe my riding as aggro XC on technical forest and desert trails (I travel frequently so have the opportunity to ride varied terrain) and I do a couple XC/enduro races every year.

    I also wish Manitou made a 34mm mid travel 29er fork, but for my current purposes the Minute seems solid.

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    Ah ok... yeah I am a bit heavier than you at about 190lbs (87kgs) so that is probably part of the reason I felt more flex and most of the guys that I talked to were in the 200+lbs range (95kgs+). Especially at 140mm travel and the fact that I am more of an aggressive trail/AM rider now than when I had the Tower. Came very close to grabbing the 27.5+ Magnum and throwing a standard sized 29er rim in it but ended up not.

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    Coming soon is the replacement to the Atlas. The Django 29.



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    Here's my new Atlas build. I stuck with the Atlas over the new Django because I like the steeper head angle.



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    Rear derailleur hanger

    Hey guys, might be another ocd question but, should the rear derailleur hanger be square on to recesses on the rear triangle? I can't get it square unless It is well under the recommended torque, so right now it's a bit angled to the recess.. let me know if it's nothing to worry about. a pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorangutan View Post
    Coming soon is the replacement to the Atlas. The Django 29.
    Meh, I think the mid-travel 29er market is just super-saturated, it might be along the lines of what I could use, but I really want something a little racier, 100-115mm, with the pedaling characteristics of the Atlas, around 100% or a little above, anti-squat throughout a good portion of the travel, so it won't be like a wet matress uphill when pedaling and the suspension is activating. Although there are a few bikes out there, Czar, 429, Following, Ripley, I think the shorter-travel aggressive 29 XC bikes (with modern XC geometry, not too stupid-steep) are where the market is lacking. You got the basic stuff from the big manufactures, but they tend to rely more on lockouts and brain type devices, rather than good suspension characteristics. I wish there were a few more short travel bikes on the market like the Atlas, without a crazy falling-anti-squat curve or 200%, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Meh, I think the mid-travel 29er market is just super-saturated, it might be along the lines of what I could use, but I really want something a little racier, 100-115mm, with the pedaling characteristics of the Atlas, around 100% or a little above, anti-squat throughout a good portion of the travel, so it won't be like a wet matress uphill when pedaling and the suspension is activating. Although there are a few bikes out there, Czar, 429, Following, Ripley, I think the shorter-travel aggressive 29 XC bikes (with modern XC geometry, not too stupid-steep) are where the market is lacking. You got the basic stuff from the big manufactures, but they tend to rely more on lockouts and brain type devices, rather than good suspension characteristics. I wish there were a few more short travel bikes on the market like the Atlas, without a crazy falling-anti-squat curve or 200%, etc.
    Just curious, why NOT the Czar? Sounds like what you are looking for. Really love mine. It's more of a do-all bike in a very light package than I expected. I'm just getting started on building up a Following for the more punishing trails and steeper downs. The Czar handles everything else very nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris2fur View Post
    Just curious, why NOT the Czar? Sounds like what you are looking for. Really love mine. It's more of a do-all bike in a very light package than I expected. I'm just getting started on building up a Following for the more punishing trails and steeper downs. The Czar handles everything else very nicely.
    It's a contender, I especially like the open-triangle design that will lend itself well to custom-bags, for the long-distance races. I want something I can XC race and not get beat up on, as I'm getting more competitive, but I'd like even more choices in the field. It seems there are a million 120-140mm 29ers out there, which is the travel-area I'm least interested in, since 150-160mm bikes are so light these days and climb so well. I can cover the spread better for myself with an XC race/endurance bike at this point I think, rather than a 130mm bike that I wouldn't want to take to the bikepark and that would still be a bit of a bear to XC race.
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    I hear you. Already having the Czar, choosing my 2nd bike has been a challenge. Never in my wildest dreams expected to get so fond of the big wheels. The SC 5010 I thought would fill the gap is more plush than the Czar, but it won't handle that much more (greater travel, but less rollover). I hear the Following with 140 up front will handle the rough stuff very well, but was tempted to go more extreme (Wreckoning). We'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xl_cheese View Post
    Here's my new Atlas build. I stuck with the Atlas over the new Django because I like the steeper head angle.


    That's a sexy drivetrain right there. What's the overall weight?

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    Bumping this one back up...has anyone done the debonair upgrade on their RT3? Looking at rebuilding the Monarch and debating the upgrade but wasn't sure how it would play with the split pivot's dynamics.

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    I tweeted DW and asked about that, he said it'd be a good upgrade. I bought a can, but I never got around to using it before I sold the frame and got another Honzo.

    Depending on where you live I could sell the unused can to you for cheap. PM me if so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. Rock View Post
    Bumping this one back up...has anyone done the debonair upgrade on their RT3? Looking at rebuilding the Monarch and debating the upgrade but wasn't sure how it would play with the split pivot's dynamics.
    I ditched my RT3 and put a Manitou Mcleod on. Sooooo much better of a shock than the RT3 was on the Atlas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2falling View Post
    I ditched my RT3 and put a Manitou Mcleod on. Sooooo much better of a shock than the RT3 was on the Atlas.
    Can you elaborate on what you find better with the McLeod?The RT3 on my medium 2015 alloy Atlas is the one of the few stock shocks I am happy with on my bikes. I weigh 78kg geared up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmorsi View Post
    Can you elaborate on what you find better with the McLeod?The RT3 on my medium 2015 alloy Atlas is the one of the few stock shocks I am happy with on my bikes. I weigh 78kg geared up.
    To me feels like it has better damping and better small bump compliance/smoother over the little stuff. Also I was getting kind of hard bottom outs with the RT3 which I do not get with the Mcleod. Do have to crank up the rebound on it on the Atlas.

    I have a 2013 and the RT3 was in need of a rebuild so threw the money towards the Mcleod instead of the rebuild. For $250 it’s a great little shock that preforms very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2falling View Post
    To me feels like it has better damping and better small bump compliance/smoother over the little stuff. Also I was getting kind of hard bottom outs with the RT3 which I do not get with the Mcleod. Do have to crank up the rebound on it on the Atlas.

    I have a 2013 and the RT3 was in need of a rebuild so threw the money towards the Mcleod instead of the rebuild. For $250 it’s a great little shock that preforms very well.
    I see. Thanks! What do you weigh geared up if I may ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmorsi View Post
    I see. Thanks! What do you weigh geared up if I may ask?
    About 210LBS geared up and run 195PSI in the Mcleod and also the RT3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegard View Post
    I tweeted DW and asked about that, he said it'd be a good upgrade. I bought a can, but I never got around to using it before I sold the frame and got another Honzo.

    Depending on where you live I could sell the unused can to you for cheap. PM me if so.
    PM'd.

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    Which way is steeper for the seat angle wrt the flip chip? Bike is awesome but after riding my fat bike (which I swore I'd not like) I found the steep seat tube able really allowed me to get aggressive on flatter ground and S turns, which is what we have hear in the prairies. Want to make sure my Atlas is steep as can be before I decide to put up for sale. It rules in all conditions except that the seat puts me too far back to push into turns without having to really get over bars.

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    ^^^Flip chip in the 'hi' position steepens everything.

    Just wrapped up some riding in BC on the Atlas, set up with:

    Reverb dropper
    specialized phenom saddle
    740mm carbon bars
    RF Atlas stem
    i9 23.5mm wheelset
    e*13 TRS+ cassette
    28T oval chain ring
    next sl cranks
    130mm Revelation
    XT brakes
    XT pedals
    XT derailleur + shifter
    2.35 forekaster up front, 2.2 forekaster out back

    25.8 lbs all in.

    Could be a touch slacker for my descending tastes, and yes the saddle could be a pinch more forward - but not enough to warrant changing bikes. Really like the split pivot suspension.

    After an 'adventure ride' with some mud, and the BC riding, I now have a pretty good creak - going to do the debonair can upgrade and throw in the enduro bearings and see what that gets me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. Rock View Post
    ^^^Flip chip in the 'hi' position steepens everything.

    Just wrapped up some riding in BC on the Atlas, set up with:

    Reverb dropper
    specialized phenom saddle
    740mm carbon bars
    RF Atlas stem
    i9 23.5mm wheelset
    e*13 TRS+ cassette
    28T oval chain ring
    next sl cranks
    130mm Revelation
    XT brakes
    XT pedals
    XT derailleur + shifter
    2.35 forekaster up front, 2.2 forekaster out back

    25.8 lbs all in.

    Could be a touch slacker for my descending tastes, and yes the saddle could be a pinch more forward - but not enough to warrant changing bikes. Really like the split pivot suspension.

    After an 'adventure ride' with some mud, and the BC riding, I now have a pretty good creak - going to do the debonair can upgrade and throw in the enduro bearings and see what that gets me.

    Thanks. I should have been more clear with my question. Which orientaton is it that is the 'hi' setting? I had figured hi was the steeper setting with higher bb. If you have a picture of yours with it in either hpost that would be super helpful.
    Since I am asking qustions I found recently that the bike is a little bit flexy. It is only 10-20 rides old and never ridden in wet as it is a clay sold which is akin to concrete in the wet. There's been alot of talk about bearings, but I feel it is smooth in terms of shock action. Maybe I just never noticed it before or maybe I'm just giving it a little more in the turns. Anyne feel that there's was flexy even with good bearings.

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    With the 130mm fork, I run it in the low position at all times, since the fork is effectively raising the BB.

    I don't find it flexy, but I also only weigh about 165 lbs. If anything is going to flex, it's going to be the Revelation and/or wheelset. For an XC bike it's pretty stout. Much beefier than any of the other 90-110mm travel frames that I've seen. It's not a trail bike though, if that's what you're comparing it to.

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    Has anybody else cracked their's? I found a crack where the bb she'll meets the frame on the drive side last night.

    Pretty gutted to be honest, we've been through alot together.

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    Those frames were so overbuilt, I didn't think that was possible.
    On a positive note, I bet you get a new Django replacement.

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    Perhaps but should they decide to warranty it then I'm hoping they have an Atlas in a backroom somewhere as I can't imagine the django can ride as well andone it definitely doesn't look as good.

    Failing that I'll push for a Marshall as I would love the option to run 29+. I've got a surly krampus and it's wicked good fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slugrider View Post
    Has anybody else cracked their's? I found a crack where the bb she'll meets the frame on the drive side last night.

    Pretty gutted to be honest, we've been through alot together.
    That's unfortunate! Can you post a picture of the crack?

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    Here it is, not great photos as light is bad in my workshop.

    I also spoke to a guy with the same problem on his but on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slugrider View Post
    Here it is, not great photos as light is bad in my workshop.

    I also spoke to a guy with the same problem on his but on the other side.
    That sucks but hopefully you'll get a replacement from Devinci. Going to check mine now! What year is your frame?

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    I could use some advice..

    I have an opportunity to buy a 2013 Devinci Carbon Atlas frame and rebuilt rear shock for a good price and wonder if it's worth it. Does the 2013 still stand up to the newer frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylondown View Post
    I could use some advice..

    I have an opportunity to buy a 2013 Devinci Carbon Atlas frame and rebuilt rear shock for a good price and wonder if it's worth it. Does the 2013 still stand up to the newer frames?
    Have had mine almost 4 years (4000 miles) and plan on keeping for quite a while longer, its my light trial bike (XC bike on steroids). This is still a great bike/frame and you would not be getting much more with the newer trail bikes that are out there (boost, little slacker HA ect..??).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylondown View Post
    I could use some advice..

    I have an opportunity to buy a 2013 Devinci Carbon Atlas frame and rebuilt rear shock for a good price and wonder if it's worth it. Does the 2013 still stand up to the newer frames?
    "Worth it" depends on the price. I love mine, it's a great XC bike. Frame geometry has continued to evolve a bit past where this frame is, but it's as good today as it was when first released. If I had the opportunity to stretch mine another 20mm in reach and slacken the head angle, I would. Bu I'm still happily riding it and have no thoughts of doing otherwise.

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    Thanks for all the help. On the 2014 carbon the flip chip is hidden under the 8mm hex bolt. I just went ahead and loosened it off and changed it over. I guess I am old school because I prefer how it handles now. I think it gives the seattube enough steepness to help cornering on more level ground and the head angle is not too steep. We don't have alot of tech features out here so no need to go to slack on HA. Also, the 'wigglyness' I mentioned previously is the wheel. The stan's flow on hope 2 is good, but I think I was comparing lateral stiffness to the carbon tubular rims I have on my XC bike. Obviously there's a huge difference there. Very happy with the bike for what it is. My blackcat 29er beats it in every way except technical descents, but that is to be expected for a race ready set up in a land with no tech features. With 110mm of rear and 120mm of front I get good, but not great speed and have no issues with the features we do have.
    To 'slugrided', sorry about the crack. That sucks. There are carbon repairers I hear.
    They are really good for customer service I think. Hopefully they do right by you.

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    I would probably buy again if the price was right. I hugely lucked out on mine and paid 750$ brand new from someone who didn't need it though. Yeah me. The main thing to watch out for is that they are quite short in the top tube. At 6'1" I am always between a L and XL in past bikes, but I got an XL in this one and I am definitely pushing the envelope between needing an XXL (not that they made those). Basically, they have a short top tube even by 2013 standards. I think slackness and longness has gone too far though. I like steeper seat tube angles and relatively slack head angles, but things are very very slack and perhaps too long now I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    "Worth it" depends on the price. I love mine, it's a great XC bike. Frame geometry has continued to evolve a bit past where this frame is, but it's as good today as it was when first released. If I had the opportunity to stretch mine another 20mm in reach and slacken the head angle, I would. Bu I'm still happily riding it and have no thoughts of doing otherwise.
    Well I'm in Canada and everything is more expensive here, but it's about $600-650USD. I already have a 2013 Devinci Atlas Aluminum frame with rebuilt rear shock that I bought for about $300USD, but when the carbon frame came up, I was very interested. The more confident I ride, the more I wonder if the Atlas is even "traily" enough for me, but I do believe the carbon is more slack than the aluminum frame and offers a bit more travel.

    Would the aluminum atlas frame work with a 140mm front fork or is that just pushing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylondown View Post
    Well I'm in Canada and everything is more expensive here, but it's about $600-650USD. I already have a 2013 Devinci Atlas Aluminum frame with rebuilt rear shock that I bought for about $300USD, but when the carbon frame came up, I was very interested. The more confident I ride, the more I wonder if the Atlas is even "traily" enough for me, but I do believe the carbon is more slack than the aluminum frame and offers a bit more travel.

    Would the aluminum atlas frame work with a 140mm front fork or is that just pushing it?
    I believe the aluminum and carbon have identical geometry. The archive page for Devinci shows them as equal. Same for travel.

    Devinci offered the Atlas with a 140mm fork, so it's OK from there point of view. Personally, the seat tube is too slack at 120 and I wouldn't. That's a somewhat personal decision though.

    I personally wouldn't spend the money just to go from aluminum to carbon given your description. I'd look for a more trail oriented bike and put the money towards that.

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    Seatangle at 140mm was interesting to say the least, going down it worked just fine but doing climbs and stretches of flat with it was less than stellar.

    Given the choice again I'd look into a different frame if going with more travel than 120mm.

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    140mm

    Quote Originally Posted by Babylondown View Post
    Well I'm in Canada and everything is more expensive here, but it's about $600-650USD. I already have a 2013 Devinci Atlas Aluminum frame with rebuilt rear shock that I bought for about $300USD, but when the carbon frame came up, I was very interested. The more confident I ride, the more I wonder if the Atlas is even "traily" enough for me, but I do believe the carbon is more slack than the aluminum frame and offers a bit more travel.

    Would the aluminum atlas frame work with a 140mm front fork or is that just pushing it?
    I think that between 2013 and 2014 they did change the geometry slightly. I do not believe itwas a carbon/aluminum distinction, however, as your aluminum is 2013 and I assume that the carbon you are looking it is >=2014 that might be the difference. Assuming I am recalling correctly.

    I am also in Canada. I am just very good at finding deals and driving down to the states to get the stuff (back when I lived nearer the border).

    There is a post from hmorsi higher up in this page that has a post of one with a 140mm fork so perhaps ask him. They did say on their site at the time that 100mm for race, 120mm for trail and 140mm for the gravity oriented. I am happy at 120mm for the most part.

    On a separate and related note I don't know the shock length and stroke. I played with my psi today and it kept the o-ring just at the end of travel, but didn't feel much better. I am tempted to go with a Manitou McLoed as I have seen others posting about, but of course need to get the right dimensions. So far google only brought me here. Anyone know?

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    Using these two sites as reference

    The complete guide to mountain bike geometry - MBR

    MTB Frame Geometry Explained - Mountain Biking Australia magazine

    I feel that the effective seattube angle is actually closer to 74. I put an angle finder app on my phone and got 74 or 75 using this method.

    The effective seattube angle goes from a line that intersects the seastpost in a horizontal line from the stem measured to the BB.

    Because it is an interrupted seattube with the seat insertion angle sitting slacker than the downtube it appears very slack, but I honestly don't think it is. So, I am going to put mine back into Lo and see if it still climbs as well which I think it will actually.

    The next thing to do would be to change out the tyres from the maxxis ardent I have to the HansDamf and see if that makes a difference on flat ground in terms of how I accelerate and hold speed.

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    Does anyone know what minimum steerer fork tube length I need to fit a 2013 Atlas large aluminum frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osakana View Post
    I think that between 2013 and 2014 they did change the geometry slightly. I do not believe itwas a carbon/aluminum distinction, however, as your aluminum is 2013 and I assume that the carbon you are looking it is >=2014 that might be the difference. Assuming I am recalling correctly.

    I am also in Canada. I am just very good at finding deals and driving down to the states to get the stuff (back when I lived nearer the border).

    There is a post from hmorsi higher up in this page that has a post of one with a 140mm fork so perhaps ask him. They did say on their site at the time that 100mm for race, 120mm for trail and 140mm for the gravity oriented. I am happy at 120mm for the most part.

    On a separate and related note I don't know the shock length and stroke. I played with my psi today and it kept the o-ring just at the end of travel, but didn't feel much better. I am tempted to go with a Manitou McLoed as I have seen others posting about, but of course need to get the right dimensions. So far google only brought me here. Anyone know?
    The shock size is 165x38mm.

    A 140mm fork works perfectly for my purposes on my 2015 aluminium Atlas. I wouldn't want the bottom bracket any lower where I ride. I don't notice it any massive adverse effects on climbing and I go up some steep trails. I've raced it in XC and enduro events, and while it isn't the perfect bike for either discipline, I have it set up for fun, versatility and reliability over perfection in one type of riding, and the appeal of the Atlas is exactly that.

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    It's a 2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylondown View Post
    Does anyone know what minimum steerer fork tube length I need to fit a 2013 Atlas large aluminum frame?
    Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylondown View Post
    Anyone?
    If you're not in a hurry I can measure for you on my 2015 alloy Atlas, but I don't have access to my bike until Wednesday.

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    Would anybody be interested in buying an atlas carbon frame?

    Whilst waiting for a warranty decision on mine I bought another so shortly I will have two, one medium and black and white, one large Matt black and red/yellow (brand new front triangle/seat stay/chain stay)

    I'm in the UK if anyone is interested?

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