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    How do you find the seating position on the Atlas given the slack seat angle? Especially those of you who put a longer fork in it.
    I'm also interested in the Atlas (aluminum model), but I'm a afraid that it might be uncomfortable for longer rides and steep climbes. Don't like travel-adjust forks so 120 would be the most interesting option. But this still leads to a 71° seat angle, which is way slacker than my current bikes.

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    How would I go about reducing the travel of the stock revelation to 120 mm?

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    So after a couple of rides on my stock carbon RSX, today I flipped the chip into the "high" position. Wow that is so much better for the climbs. I'm wondering if I can replicate the steeper seat angle but keep the lower bb height and slacker head angle of the low position by shortening the fork travel down to 120 and using an angleset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madtrix View Post
    How do you find the seating position on the Atlas given the slack seat angle? Especially those of you who put a longer fork in it.
    I'm also interested in the Atlas (aluminum model), but I'm a afraid that it might be uncomfortable for longer rides and steep climbes. Don't like travel-adjust forks so 120 would be the most interesting option. But this still leads to a 71° seat angle, which is way slacker than my current bikes.
    With 140 mm and in the low position, the slack seat angle really sucks on climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _tom_ View Post
    With 140 mm and in the low position, the slack seat angle really sucks on climbs.
    I'd disagree... It's not a racer at that point, but for the DH capability of the bike, it climbs quite well with 140mm in low position. I want that low BB so I can carve the DH and flats, and keep the front end as slack as possible.
    I think it's all about what you want and expect out of the bike - and the beauty of it is that it has a huge amount of flexibility to accommodate a variety of riding styles.
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    You'll need a different size Solo Air Spring. See the tech doc from RockShox

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    Quote Originally Posted by madtrix View Post
    How do you find the seating position on the Atlas given the slack seat angle? Especially those of you who put a longer fork in it.
    I'm also interested in the Atlas (aluminum model), but I'm a afraid that it might be uncomfortable for longer rides and steep climbes. Don't like travel-adjust forks so 120 would be the most interesting option. But this still leads to a 71° seat angle, which is way slacker than my current bikes.
    Keep in mind that the seat angle on the Devinci website is 'virtual'. It's the angle that you would get from a straight line through the BB centre and a point on the seat tube at the height of the top headset cover. As you can see, the seat tube is far from straight. After the bend, it moves backward at a much slacker angle.

    This means that your seat placement gets a bit critical if the tip of your saddle sits relatively high up, but also not far behind the BB. You might end up with your saddle way forward on the seat clamp. It might even be impossible to mount it at the position of your current bike. Sure, you can alter your seating position and rotate yourself backwards on the bike so to speak, but that indeed could be uncomfortable and hurt climbing.

    That said, it all depends on your leg proportions and thus where you want your seat to be. Mine is at 76cm from the BB centre to a point 12cm from the rear of the saddle. The tip of the saddle is about 10cm behind the BB. My seatpost clamp is centered on the seat rails. The seatpost is a Rock Shox Reverb, which has no setback. I ride a Large Atlas with 120mm White Brothers Loop fork.

    I have done lots of techy, really steep climbing this week and the Atlas did a great job.

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    Atlas carbon vs jet 9 rdo

    Hey Billy Davis, I wanted to ask you what you like (and don't like) about the Atlas carbon since you've had plenty of ride time on it. I have been following this tread to help me in my choice of club rides/race frames, and I am leaning more towards the Devinci, with the jet 9 rdo being the other choice. Any thoughts or opinons on all this? Any input would be a help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Thompson View Post
    Hey Billy Davis, I wanted to ask you what you like (and don't like) about the Atlas carbon since you've had plenty of ride time on it. I have been following this tread to help me in my choice of club rides/race frames, and I am leaning more towards the Devinci, with the jet 9 rdo being the other choice. Any thoughts or opinons on all this? Any input would be a help.
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    I just built an Atlas Carbon for a customer as a race/fast trail bike. It has an XX1 drivetrain, XT brakes, Crest wheels, and a 100mm SID, weighing in at 24.6lbs. He is blown away at the speed of the bike and how plush it feels for a race-worthy rig. He said that it feels almost like a hardtail in pedaling efficiency but let him rally his XC downhills as fast as his Pivot 5.7 (with 150mm fork).

    I like Niner, but I'd say that the Split Pivot feels much more direct in your pedal stroke, making it the better race option. Weights are similar, and the robust nature of the frame gives me lots of confidence (and mine is built up as a trail bike w/140mm).
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    Hey guys - I found a use for the direct mount on a 1x11 Atlas...

    Wisecracker bottle opener held on with a Devinci headset cap:
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    Wow, that is sweet looking. I am going build one very close to that, except I was considering a reba fork. I would like to know what you think of a SID vs a reba (flex, smoothness of the ride, etc.) I was on the fence between a xx or xo build, but this looks too good and is probably lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Thompson View Post
    Wow, that is sweet looking. I am going build one very close to that, except I was considering a reba fork. I would like to know what you think of a SID vs a reba (flex, smoothness of the ride, etc.) I was on the fence between a xx or xo build, but this looks too good and is probably lighter.
    Thanks, RT
    The current SID is a good deal lighter than the Reba, and every one that I've ridden has been very nicely controlled (damping knobs actually work as you expect) and have been very smooth from the box. Current Rebas have been a little less consistent, but still better than Fox products that I've been around. I'd say if you're building a bike with 120mm or less, go with SID. If you need more, get a White Bros Loop, check out the new X-Fusions, or wait a little bit for a Pike.
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    I love the setup. Can beer lubricate the chain AND you?!?

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    Carbon Atlas update

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Thompson View Post
    Hey Billy Davis, I wanted to ask you what you like (and don't like) about the Atlas carbon since you've had plenty of ride time on it. I have been following this tread to help me in my choice of club rides/race frames, and I am leaning more towards the Devinci, with the jet 9 rdo being the other choice. Any thoughts or opinons on all this? Any input would be a help.
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    Robert I am loving every minute on the Devinci. I ended up with 100mm stem with the seat mid position. Feels spot on fit wise vs my Scott Spark large. I'm blown away with how fun the bike is. Just rode brown county and just cant keep the wheels on the ground!

    Specifically vs the Niner, nothing wrong at all with the Niner its a really nice rig, but the Niner is quite a bit longer and much more difficult to manual and feels less playful. In addition the split pivot is really compliant and fun/fast at the same time.

    Biggest nit pick I can make so far is too much over steer especially compared to my Scott Spark. I plan on switching from 100mm to 120mm fork soon to tame the steering a bit. If you like a quick steering rig then go with the 100mm IMO.

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    Robert I am loving every minute on the Devinci. I ended up with 100mm stem with the seat mid position. Feels spot on fit wise vs my Scott Spark large. I'm blown away with how fun the bike is. Just rode brown county and just cant keep the wheels on the ground!

    Specifically vs the Niner, nothing wrong at all with the Niner its a really nice rig, but the Niner is quite a bit longer and much more difficult to manual and feels less playful. In addition the split pivot is really compliant and fun/fast at the same time.

    Biggest nit pick I can make so far is too much over steer especially compared to my Scott Spark. I plan on switching from 100mm to 120mm fork soon to tame the steering a bit. If you like a quick steering rig then go with the 100mm IMO.
    Billy Davis, what position is the chip in? Putting it in the low position should slow down your steering, unless you want to tame it down more. For me, I'm in Florida, and lot of our trails are tight and twisty, so quickness is needed unless you like eating tree bark!
    I am still undecided on forks; a SID, a reba, a Fox, or a WB loop. The lightest would be the SID and I'm leaning towards that, but will it work as well? Any suggestions?
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    vwvoodoo, what size (q-factor and length) XX1 crankset did you install on that Atlas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzim View Post
    vwvoodoo, what size (q-factor and length) XX1 crankset did you install on that Atlas?
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    Thanks for the info. Due to budgetary reasons I'm really looking at the Atlas Carbon frameset. I had a few other frames high on the list but this is making it's way quickly.

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    Anyone care to comment on downhill chunkfest capabilities? I know it only has 110mm travel but paired with a 140 fork what can she handle? Coming from a 6" travel 29er i'm used to plowing everything but dying on the climbs, looking for a bike that i can ride long distance, still eat up chunk, and just have plain ol fun on!

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    right - I am thinking of changing my current bike (Yeti ASR5) for one of these


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    @confused and charliemort, I have the same comment on you both: I'd advise to try out an Atlas or at least a bike with similar travel / wheelsize. A Specialized Camber or Giant Anthem 29er for example, if you can get test bikes with at least 120mm front travel. These got way different geometries to the Atlas, but similar amounts of rear travel.

    I am very happy with my Atlas in 120/110 config in the downhills, but it's very hard to judge how much the chunck absorption qualities are impaired. For sure, I have the feeling my fork is the biggest constraint to improve downhill speed (apart from my own skills), but 1.5" less rear travel seems like a lot. So, there should be a difference, but wether it's too much to give up for easier climbing, only you can decide.

    Same with the ASR5. My experience is that a 29" FS can get away with less travel and still feel as capable as a 26" with 2-3" more travel. The difference is subtile though and highly dependant on the rider. A friend of mine rides a 26" RM Element with the amount of travel of the ASR5. It's a playful bike and he's plenty fast on it. So, same thing... I think only a test ride on a 100-110ish travel 29" FS will tell you if the improvement is there and worth it.

    If it is, I can fully recommend the Atlas Carbon.
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    Any recommendations for an ideal placement of the adhesive downtube protector?

    Placing it close to the BB would cover the serial number plate, so that doesn't seem like a good idea. So where should it go? Should the bottom edge of the protector mount below the serial number plate, just above it, or above the red Devinci logo where the grey paint strip begins?

    It would be great to hear where some of you have chosen to mount the protector. Also, has anyone found a better protector than the one provided by Devinci? Thanks!

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    I posted this on the General Discussion forum but it's worth checking out. It's from 3M and is made for cars. It sprays on as a liquid, i.e. easy to apply, and dries as a peelable film. It's clear as well so it won't cover up any decals.
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    Edit to add: With that said, no one knows if it'll lift decals that are not clearcoated over when you go to peel it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    Any recommendations for an ideal placement of the adhesive downtube protector?

    Placing it close to the BB would cover the serial number plate, so that doesn't seem like a good idea. So where should it go? Should the bottom edge of the protector mount below the serial number plate, just above it, or above the red Devinci logo where the grey paint strip begins?

    It would be great to hear where some of you have chosen to mount the protector. Also, has anyone found a better protector than the one provided by Devinci? Thanks!

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    Wow, those look great. The left one has a 100mm fork and the right one 140? What sizes are they?

    Does anybody know if there are really no geometry changes between the aluminum and carbon atlas? Devinci says this, however on their geo charts the carbon has a 1cm longer top tube and wheelbase, but the reach is the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madtrix View Post
    Wow, those look great. The left one has a 100mm fork and the right one 140? What sizes are they?

    Does anybody know if there are really no geometry changes between the aluminum and carbon atlas? Devinci says this, however on their geo charts the carbon has a 1cm longer top tube and wheelbase, but the reach is the same?
    140mm medium on the right. 120mm small on the left. Both bikes did The Whole Enchilada in Moab, Palisade, Fruita Kokopelli loops, and Eagle trails last weekend... Lots of fun!

    Geo is definitely different - they generally run a little bigger than traditional sizing on the carbon, closer to traditional sizing on the alloy.

    As far as chunk goes, the 140 definitely does better - I rode as fast on UPS and LPS trails in Moab on this as I did on my much longer Sultan DW last fall. And on the upper Hazard County trail (with super fast swoopy turns, jump, and LOTS of embedded broken baby heads) it went much faster than the Sultan with it's shorter chainstays and better acceleration.
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    Possibly going to be purchasing a Atlas Carbon RC, went to my LBS that sells Devinci and had a great hour and half talk with the owner about my options with components. Looking to go full Shimano XT will a 38/24 crank and 11-36 cassette. He is going to call his bike reps and see what kind of pricing I can get this for, gotta say I am extremely excited. Just a sweet bike

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    I've been keeping up with this thread and after reading, it seems like the 120mm fork would make the Atlas Carbon into a well rounded and balanced trail bike. I live in Texas and our trails are nothing like Moab. My current bike has a 120mm fork and 135mm rear and I have yet to bottom both out even with my geared riding weight of 235#. Quite frankly I think it's way more travel than I need on the trails that I ride.
    Ultimately I would like to make a trip to Moab and other trail systems. With that said, would you guys whole heartedly recommend a 120mm fork for "one size generally does all"?
    The Whole Enchilada is on the top of my list to ride either before the year is over or sometime next..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzim View Post
    With that said, would you guys whole heartedly recommend a 120mm fork for "one size generally does all"?
    Can't speak for the rest of us, but for me 120mm works great. I do endurance races, but not the semi-road race like ones, but as technically demanding as possible. We have a few gems here in Europe, particulary in France and I'm allways on the lookout for more.

    For that, which really is riding difficult uphill/downhill trails in a race that lasts for more than 4 hours, my Atlas Carbon setup is ideal. With a 100mm fork, I suspect the low BB height would give me trouble and the slightly more slacked out 120mm fork gives me a bit more straight line stability without hurting tight turns too much. A 140mm fork would make this bike ideal for mostly downhill/ shuttle/bike park rides, but that would hurt climbing too much for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzim View Post
    I posted this on the General Discussion forum but it's worth checking out. It's from 3M and is made for cars. It sprays on as a liquid, i.e. easy to apply, and dries as a peelable film. It's clear as well so it won't cover up any decals.
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    That's an amazing product. I've never seen anything like that before. Thanks for posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unkown View Post
    Possibly going to be purchasing a Atlas Carbon RC, went to my LBS that sells Devinci and had a great hour and half talk with the owner about my options with components. Looking to go full Shimano XT will a 38/24 crank and 11-36 cassette. He is going to call his bike reps and see what kind of pricing I can get this for, gotta say I am extremely excited. Just a sweet bike
    The RC is kitted with SRAM/Formula components. The 140mm RXS is a Shimano build but with SLX components. Either way you'd be replacing virtually everything to go full XT. It sounds like picking up a frame and spec'ing your own build out would be the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwvoodoo View Post
    The carbon around the BB junction is pretty thick, so I went a little higher on mine - just above the Devinci label. On a few customer's bikes I went a little lower, covering the devinci symbol.
    Those are the two placement areas that I'm trying to decide between, but I've not committed yet. I really like the Devinci emblem, but it's not in a well thought out spot. Even if it's not covered with the protector you still can't see it when the bike's upright. IMO it should have been placed high on the underside of the down tube, where I think it would have looked good.

    Great pics of the bikes! Gorgeous scenery. Man I'd really like to make the trek out to Moab this summer. Might be a little bit of a sketchier ride for me with my 100mm Atlas though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    The RC is kitted with SRAM/Formula components. The 140mm RXS is a Shimano build but with SLX components. Either way you'd be replacing virtually everything to go full XT. It sounds like picking up a frame and spec'ing your own build out would be the way to go.
    Yup that is what we are doing, currently the owner at the LBS where I am getting mine is building up his own Atlas 29er RC, with full XX1 components. Its a new bike shop and he hasn't had to many people come in asking for carbon Devinci's, so he was pretty excited to hear that I was really interested and is going to shave the price down here and there. Going with the 110mm travel in the front, best option for the riding I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madtrix View Post

    Does anybody know if there are really no geometry changes between the aluminum and carbon atlas? Devinci says this, however on their geo charts the carbon has a 1cm longer top tube and wheelbase, but the reach is the same?
    I emailed Devinci about this myself and they confirmed that the carbon version does have different geometry, mainly longer top tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12snap View Post
    I emailed Devinci about this myself and they confirmed that the carbon version does have different geometry, mainly longer top tubes.
    I learned this the hard way with my own trail and error. Before Devinci added the "sizing" column to the geometry specs, I contacted them directly and provided them with my height, etc. They recommended a large frame so I took that as gospel and that's what I went with. It ended up being ridiculously big for me, so I exchanged it for a medium, which fits well and I'm happy with it. Even the medium is substantial and doesn't feel small at all.

    In an effort to try to understand why the large was so, well... large, I compared the geometry of it to similar bikes from other manufacturers. As it turns out, the 633mm (~25") VTT of a large Atlas Carbon is equivalent to everyone else's XL carbon frames, and in some cases XXL. Case solved! The same is true for all three sizes of the Atlas Carbon. The medium, for instance, is equivalent to a large carbon frame from most other manufacturers.

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    Ok. I got the answer that the geometry is the same.
    Hmm, difficult for me now, because I think the medium carbon Atlas would fit me (at 5'9") quite well, but the aluminium might be a little short. Yes the top top is quite long cause of the slack seat angle, but if I compare the reach against my current bikes or bikes of other brands it quite short.

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    I'm happy they went to a longer top tube, the aluminum frames were way too small in my opinion. Looking at grabbing a large when I have my $$ right. Digging this frame. What's the actual chain stay length of the carbons if anyone could check for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    As it turns out, the 633mm (~25") VTT of a large Atlas Carbon is equivalent to everyone else's XL carbon frames, and in some cases XXL. Case solved!
    Well, not quite. The effective top tube is kind of a disturbing measurement, because of the slack seating angle. The reach (the length of the bike in front of the BB) is the same as a Large Gary Fisher Superfly, which is a normal-ish reach measurement for size Large bikes.

    So.. if you put your saddle in the same spot in relation to the BB as on a similar reach bike, the Large Atlas Carbon is not that large. You only get in trouble when on the brink of medium/large sizes AND you have either short quads or want to sit quite forward. It could very well be that, because of the slack seat tube angle, you are running out of rail length on the back of the seat to clamp it in the position you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzim View Post
    Ultimately I would like to make a trip to Moab and other trail systems. With that said, would you guys whole heartedly recommend a 120mm fork for "one size generally does all"?
    The Whole Enchilada is on the top of my list to ride either before the year is over or sometime next..
    I just did the Whole Enchilada on my 140mm equipped AtlasC - it went as quickly as my trip down the trail on my Sultan with a 140mm fork last fall. In some sections (Hazard County) it was faster than the Sultan with it's FAR faster handling. In a few sections I was a little sketched with the reduced stability compared to the bus-length Sultan, but I learned that it really loved to manual through sections, allowing a semi-float/jump over rough stuff.
    My buddy Justin was on his 120mm SID equipped AtlasC (with smaller tires and light Stan's Crest wheels) and had to stop repeatedly to relax his upper body. That said, he still believes that the 120mm is his better setup since 99.9% of his riding is in northern Arkansas where tight and twisty with no chunky descents is the norm.

    I think it all depends on your normal riding - I don't find the 140mm hampers me at all on climbs, but if I had a big travel bike to complement the AtlasC, I would drop it to 120mm to increase it's overall balance between front and rear travel (and to reduce weight a little bit). I love fast chunky Enduro-style trail riding, and this bike eats it up while giving me a good advantage on climbs.
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    Pulled the tirgger, my LBS is ordering in a 29er Atlas Carbon RC, must say I am really excited. I was going to get all XT components but Devinci said its too late in the season to do full custom builds. Could have gotten the LBS to build it but then I would have to sell off all the other components, so I just went with the stock. Only thing I am going to be switching out is the X7 FD for an XT FD.

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    Anyone have experience with the Transition Bandit 29 or Stumpjumper Evo FSR 29? I own/owned both and am curious to hear how the Atlas compares to them.

    I know they're in somewhat different categories, but any info would be much appreciated

    Thanks!

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    Wish I had a shop close by that dealt with them. I've asked two of the locals if they'd be interested in bringing them in, only to have both shake their heads in response.
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    Finally, I've got quality pics of my Atlas! Here is it the way I ride it in tough terrain, with Hans Dampfs (trailstar front, pacestar rear).

    It's a size large, in permanent 'lo' config, with a 120mm WB Loop fork (for reference, I am about 5'11"-6'). Shifting duty for XTR (old/new mix), with the shadow+ rear mech doing a stellar job. Steering is done with a Syntace stem (90mm) and Easton Haven carbon bars (710mm). There's a light Salsa chainguard on there that gets some bashguard use... wonder how long that one will hold up . The rear Am Classic 101 rim did not... It has developed cracks at the spokeholes and that'll teach me not to do tough, rocky terrain on light XC rims, at least on the rear wheel. It's too bad, cause I really liked the tubeless characteristics of these.

    It has the 135 QR dropout kit right now, because I use a Powertap rear hub.

    Planned 'upgrades': A crank based powermeter (to arrive within a month), which allows me to switch to a Maxle rear wheel. I am curious if I can feel the theoretical extra amount of stiffness of the Maxle! The hub will be a DT 240s hub, but I have not decided yet on the choice of rim. Maybe WTB Frequency i19 or something light & tubeless ready, but not as light as the AC 101 . No Notubes rims for me, as I hate the fact that you cannot run a lot of TLR tires on the market. Bad news for a tire fetishist like me .

    Also the cockpit will be changed to a 740mm 3T bar and a 70mm stem. After that, I'll be saving up for an enduro proof wheelset with WTB Frequency i23 rims and some cheapish hubs. I guess it makes sense to have a dedicated set for all mountain/ enduro use (I've entered some races) and another for Marathon XC racing, so there is no compromise between weight and strength either way.

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    I am having a world of troubles trying to set up the stock Easton XC wheelset tubeless. I cannot get the tire bead to seat. I have tried a Hans Dampf tubeless ready EVO and a Nobby Nic dual compound. Even with tubes I can't really get the bead to snap in. I have set up many different tires tubeless before and never had problems like this.

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    This bike scares me! It is frikin fast! Never have I run my downhill oriented trails so fast and controlled I have finnaly got my wheels, and they suit this bike very well.
    Sorry about the steerertube, needs to be cut, but was too eager to bike

    Setup:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilsern View Post
    This bike scares me! It is frikin fast! Never have I run my downhill oriented trails so fast and controlled I have finnaly got my wheels, and they suit this bike very well.
    Sorry about the steerertube, needs to be cut, but was too eager to bike

    Setup:
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    Looks awesome, saw mine at the bike shop yesterday in the box, just has to be built up and it's ready to roll!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unkown View Post
    Looks awesome, saw mine at the bike shop yesterday in the box, just has to be built up and it's ready to roll!
    Yup, real nice job with all that Syntace! Wow, the fixed, wider bit of that Reverb seems to be even closer to the seatpost clamp than mine. I like the looks of it that way, but you were really lucky to get away with the 125mm at your seat height, it seems.

    @Unkown, if you edit your post and delete the pics in your quote, this page will be a bit easier to view .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeroenK View Post
    Yup, real nice job with all that Syntace! Wow, the fixed, wider bit of that Reverb seems to be even closer to the seatpost clamp than mine. I like the looks of it that way, but you were really lucky to get away with the 125mm at your seat height, it seems.

    @Unkown, if you edit your post and delete the pics in your quote, this page will be a bit easier to view .
    Hehe i've got a long torso but short legs. Really like the Large though, with its longer Reach. But the seatpost could have been a few mm shorter. I'm thinking of trying a 100mm reverb to check if it works better for me. I usually don't lower my post all the way.

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    Picked her up yesterday, man is it fast! Went for a short ride this morning on some gravel roads, couldn't get on the trails because they are way to wet.

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    I got my Atlas carbon RX about 10 days ago, built by vwvoodoo (Ordinary Bicycles) - Thanks Jason for the good job all the advice -

    It is a stock kit on which I replaced the Elixir 7 breaks by Shimano XT's and the Easton aluminum bar with a Syntace Vector carbon bar.

    I am 5'10" and between 185 and 195 Lbs (depending on the days), the medium frame fits great. The rear shock comes with about 150 Lb of pressure which I increased to 200 Lbs and it gives me 30% of sag and 100% of travel. On the front it came with 100 Lbs, it's just a little soft IMO, still experimenting.

    Like other reviewers I'd say the bike is very fast and powerful. There are parts of my local trails that I could never climb remaining on the bike and I was able to with the Atlas.

    What impresses me the most is how smooth this bike rides, especially the tail. You don't feel it working, it hugs the terrain and smooths it out. My local trails have tons of exposed roots which were painful to go over with my old hardtail bike, now I make a point of plowing through the roots because it's so fun with the Atlas.

    The only "maybe" I have are with the stock tires. They work very well in most situations but handled poorly in very loose conditions (sand mixed with rocks), but I need to get more miles on them to get a better idea, especially DH as the blocks are fairly small.

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    I'm digging these Devinci bikes. Is it just me though or is their sizing a bit odd. They seem to like their seat tubes tall even on their 26er models. This may be a function of their rear suspension tech, I suppose. Amazingly the wheelbase of the Atlas is shorter than their 26er models.

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    I rode my Atlas Carbon RX in the 24 hrs of Summer Solstice this past weekend. I'd always ridden hard-tail before. Wow - loved the bike! So fast and rolls so well - kept coasting into riders ahead of me. Challenging myself in the race also forced me to figure out how to climb steep hills. Also crashed it a couple of times, so I guess I'm done being gentle with it.

    Brilliant bike.

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    Had my second session this weekend on my RX as well.
    Same as you coming from a hardtail, the bike feels super smooth and fast. I also crashed because my cleats were too tight and did not unlock fast enough.

    Riding 29in wheels still feels weird to me though compared to the 26 and I'm still not used to it, it does not feel as precise as the 26in wheels when it gets technical but maybe that just because I need to put more miles on the bike and get used to how to ride it efficiently.

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    For all my fellow Atlas Carbon owners: Check your bolts every once in a while. I have had the ones in the lower shock mount and the main pivot bearing loosen enough to get some play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeroenK View Post
    For all my fellow Atlas Carbon owners: Check your bolts every once in a while. I have had the ones in the lower shock mount and the main pivot bearing loosen enough to get some play.
    Did you notice any noises associated with the loose pivot points, like creaking sounds, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    Did you notice any noises associated with the loose pivot points, like creaking sounds, etc?
    I have the exact same problem, big creak sound coming from the pivot on the non-drive side, basically has been like that since I got it. My LBS has emailed his Devinci rep to see if that is a common issue and if there is any fix, I will let you know what he responds with.

    Pretty annoying creak as I get it on 75% of my strokes, other than that amazing bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    Did you notice any noises associated with the loose pivot points, like creaking sounds, etc?
    No, I only have creaking sounds when the bike is dirty. After a thorough cleanup it's silent again. There was a ton of grease on the pivot bearings when the frame was new. I cleaned all that up, cause it's a sure bet this will collect dirt and make noise. That might be a simple fix for you, Unkown. Disassemble the pivot bolts, clean everything and put it all together again. It just takes a few grains of sand to get an annoying creak.

    My bike had no noise, but if you lift the backside up from the ground and put it down again, you'll notice play instantly, if one of the bolts has come loose.

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    Mine definitely likes to creak when it's even a little dirty. It seems to be mainly at the shock eyelets.

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    I am building up a Devinci Atlas carbon with XX1 and I9 wheel, so I will post pictures and give a review after things are dialed in with a few rides. I can't wait to throw a leg over this baby!!

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    Update on my pivot creak: re-torqued each pivot and one of the pivots wasn't torqued correctly hence why it was creaking. Problem solved, no creaking, maybe its just down to re-torquing them for you guys as well.

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    I've known most of them to creak from the upper shock mount. With a little wipedown and a light grease, it went away.

    I switched to a RWC Needle Bearing kit on mine and REALLY like it. It has so much less friction that I had to reduce my shock rebound by 2 clicks! Kit number NBKRWC4115.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unkown View Post
    Update on my pivot creak: re-torqued each pivot and one of the pivots wasn't torqued correctly hence why it was creaking. Problem solved, no creaking, maybe its just down to re-torquing them for you guys as well.
    Could you share the torque values? I'm getting a small creak under heavy load. Not to bad now but I worry about it getting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwvoodoo View Post
    I've known most of them to creak from the upper shock mount. With a little wipedown and a light grease, it went away.

    I switched to a RWC Needle Bearing kit on mine and REALLY like it. It has so much less friction that I had to reduce my shock rebound by 2 clicks! Kit number NBKRWC4115.
    Perfect! Have thought of getting a rwc set to deal with the noise. Grease and clean only helps for some time. Thanks for sharing the partnumber

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    2013 Devinci Atlas Carbon Tech Document w/Torque Specs

    A must-have reference doc for Atlas Carbon owners. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    A must-have reference doc for Atlas Carbon owners. Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDZ View Post
    Could you share the torque values? I'm getting a small creak under heavy load. Not to bad now but I worry about it getting worse.
    I see someone else posted the online manual, that is what I used, hope you figure it out. Took mine on a great trail ride today and no creaks whatsoever even on the insanely rocky downhills. Love this bike!

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    3 month update

    Thought I would check back in with a 3 month update. About the only knock I had left with the Atlas Carbon was too much over steer for my personal taste. I swapped out the 100mm spring/rebound for the 120mm and that cured it. I would have to say 120mm is money on the bike, still perfect for cross country or endurance but certainly comfortable enough for more and it tamed the steering.

    Chip is still in low and I get very few pedal strikes at all.

    Love this bike, very comfortable, stable, and most of all fun!

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    Maybe I can revive this thread, checking back after about 2 and 1/2 months use, and I am happy to say I LOVE this bike. At first (for me at least) going from a 26er to a 29er was very hard because it felt very hard to handle in the corners. I noticed my bars was much wider than on my old bike, so I got those cut down, and BAM, it feels like a different bike, at least the handling. Suspension, shifts, and its overall speed is great, on the road this bike is really fast as well. All round great bike

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    Devince carbon atlas build

    Kyle, got you question about the atlas carbon, and I decided to answer you here since I also wanted to thank everyone on this forum that helped me make up my mind.
    I love the bike!! With the RS 120 fork and the XX1, I'm kicking major A** on the trails. I also went I9 hubs laced to Pancenti rims, which are as strong as a brick! When I pick a line it goes there, on worries on flex, or anything for that matter. I am taking lines I wouldn't have dared before. Just when I think I have gotten in over my head, I am proved wrong (whew!). I get no pedal strikes, no creaking, no nutin'.
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    Nice bike. Did you buy a frame and build it up or is it a stock bike with upgrades?

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    These are looking good guys.Seems the sp works real well with less moving parts versus the dw link.Does the sp have a similar rearward axle path?Wonder if they will be doing the atlas in a 120-150mm travel version to compete with some of the new longer travel rigs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3 View Post
    Nice bike. Did you buy a frame and build it up or is it a stock bike with upgrades?
    Hey rushman, I got the frame alone and had the bike bike at Leroy's bikeworks in Lakeland (thanks Leroy)! The wheels too.

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    Over my last ride I sliced open my rear stock Racing Ralph tire (Atlas carbon RX), I must say this never happened to me before in about 25 years I'm mountain biking. These tires handled surprisingly well for the light duty / light weight they are but the side walls are no match for my rocky terrain.

    I'm keeping the front tire but obviously have to replace the rear. I'm leaning towards the Maxxis Ardent 2.4 (with tube), any of you guys have experience with that tire on the Atlas?

    What else do you like with this bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geotrouvetout67 View Post
    I'm keeping the front tire but obviously have to replace the rear. I'm leaning towards the Maxxis Ardent 2.4 (with tube), any of you guys have experience with that tire on the Atlas?
    Careful with that! The Ardent 2.4 is a good tire, but it's a very big tire, so you might run into clearance issues. My Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35" are about as big (60mm knob to knob on 20mm internal width rims) and they fit my Atlas, but only just. Clearance is that minimal that I only run them in the dry.

    Maybe an Ardent 2.25" is a better idea. Once you replace the front tire, get yourself a Maxxis High Roller II. It's great!

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    I though this could be an issue indeed.
    I decided to try the Ikon 2.2 in 60TPI version, crossing my fingers

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    Are the stock Ralphs the Snakeskin version?

    Snakeskin adds a thicker, more durable sidewall (and perhaps 70g/tire). Unless I'm riding in a place without sharp rocks, I always run Snakeskins.

    By the way, if this is the first time you've sliced a sidewall in 25y, consider yourself lucky!

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    No they are the regular version, the snakeskin may have made it through the trail.

    The Maxxis Ikon 60tpi were half the cost than RaRa Snakeskin so I won't be afraid to put them to the test.

    I know, reading through forum threads about tires, lots of people are slicing sidewalls. I wonder it it has anything to do with the rear suspension as I was riding hard tail until I got the Atlas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geotrouvetout67 View Post
    I know, reading through forum threads about tires, lots of people are slicing sidewalls. I wonder it it has anything to do with the rear suspension as I was riding hard tail until I got the Atlas.
    Maybe your speed has come up, because of the more capable bike, but your bike handling is in need of a little more finesse.

    Or you were just lucky you have not punctured earlier. You are riding some pretty minimal tread tires for rocky terrain.

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    I'm keeping the front tire but obviously have to replace the rear. I'm leaning towards the Maxxis Ardent 2.4 (with tube), any of you guys have experience with that tire on the Atlas?
    I also believe the 2.4 might be tight. I'm running the 2.25, but without EXO protection. Clearanse is good. They suck in rocky terrain, sidewalls are too weak. I've got a couple of patches innside, and have a few holes that the sealant has fixed. But grip and alround qualities are very good, so would buy them again, but with the EXO sidewalls.

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    I'm keeping the front tire but obviously have to replace the rear. I'm leaning towards the Maxxis Ardent 2.4 (with tube), any of you guys have experience with that tire on the Atlas?

    What else do you like with this bike?

    I have been running the Specialized Ground Control 2.3 for past few months and really like the tire. Seems like a good compromise of weight, speed, grip and price. It is somewhere between the Ralph and Nic in terms of performance....two tires I have been using for last few years and like very much.

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    so jealous. emjoy!!

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    Effective Seat Angle

    One of the biggest reservations I had about buying an Atlas was the slack seat tube angle. I have never ridden a bike that was a good peddler with a 71 degree SA. I saw this chart on one of the online retailers that sale Devinci.

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    From the chart I looks like they are measuring the actual SA instead of the effective SA. I have a 2013 Med alloy Atlas with a 120mm Tower Pro. Using a 4 foot bubble level and a real analog angle finder, I made sure the floor was level then ran it from the middle of the BB spindle to the middle of the seat post head and got 74 deg with the flip chips on hi. I am getting 71 deg as the actual SA.

    Looks like the geo charts aren't wrong, they just don't include all the "stuff you need to know" info.

    Mine has been a great peddler once I got the psi right and that is what always confused me about this bike. I just thought it was the short chainstays.

    Now, if I can only get rid of that creak.

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    How's the pedal feedback on this bike? Is it neutral, or do you get kickback? If you're getting kickback, is it more prevalent in certain chainrings?

    Somewhat related, how much chain growth exists as it cycles through the suspension? I'm looking to move my XX1 kit over, and on my current horst link bike, I don't get the dreaded 'knock' with SRAM's type 2 derailluers. I'm curious as to if that's something I'd have to deal with on the Atlas...

    Thanks for posting the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip D View Post
    Looks like the geo charts aren't wrong, they just don't include all the "stuff you need to know" info.
    That's good information! I allways thought the Devinci measurement was the angle from the BB centre to where the horizontal TT meets the seat tube. Just an assumption...

    The 'actual' SA that you are getting, is that the angle of the seat tube itself? What you are actually pointing out is that with offset seat tubes, it's very hard for a manufacturer to provide a useful SA number. The angle of the direct line from the seat post head to the BB centre is highly dependant on the height of the seat.

    So... if you got lots of seatpost showing, the SA to the seatpost clamp will get pretty slack. Not a lot of seatpost: Pretty steep. Somebody please provide an online calculator for this?

    As for the creak: Have you read this entire topic? Chances are your linkage bearings need cleaning and tightening.

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    Exactly, I don't know why I didn't think about this before. I guess it would be pretty hard for a company to give anything but a ball park figure without knowing each riders specific measurements.

    For reference, here is my bike.(the only garage door I have is on my greenhouse and yes, I have been too lazy to cut the steerer tube all summer)

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    772mm from the center of the crank spindle to the top of the seat between the seat post clamps.
    284mm from the seat post clamp to center of seat.

    I have had a creak since day one. Pulled the seat post, retorqued everything, changed components, greased, and lubed but still it's there. First creak I haven't been able to solve but the ride is so good that I am willing to live with the squirrel in the frame.

    Even with the creak, I am thinking about getting a second one but I wish Devinci would change some things. An integrated headset has no place on a mountain bike these days unless you are building a 4 lb World Cup XC frame. If Devinci is going to hang a 71 degree head angle on a bike, at least give us the ability to slacken it out via an angleset. I disliked integrated headsets on my road bike ten years ago and I dislike it 4x more now on my mtn bike.

    Press fit BB. What's wrong with the good ol' threaded BB? They do not use the entire length of the BB shell on the alloy model so in theory they could use a threaded BB on it. I use mine every day and am on my 2nd BB this summer. $45 a pop now in stead of $15 to throw in some new Enduro bearings. The PF BB goes in the trash where my local recycler will take my old bearings. The whole PF BB seams like a way for manufacturers to save a dollar and pass the costs to it's consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechniKal View Post
    How's the pedal feedback on this bike? Is it neutral, or do you get kickback? If you're getting kickback, is it more prevalent in certain chainrings?

    Somewhat related, how much chain growth exists as it cycles through the suspension? I'm looking to move my XX1 kit over, and on my current horst link bike, I don't get the dreaded 'knock' with SRAM's type 2 derailluers. I'm curious as to if that's something I'd have to deal with on the Atlas...

    Thanks for posting the info!
    I do get some feedbackmin my 22 grannyring. But I prefer the 36 on most of my riding, in it works perfect there. I would guess going as low as 30th on the XX1, wouldn't cause any notacible feedback.

    You will need to take into account the chain growth due to the high pivot location on the chainstays. I' m not sure, but I guess it has some more than the Fsr/horst link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip D View Post
    Exactly, I don't know why I didn't think about this before. I guess it would be pretty hard for a company to give anything but a ball park figure without knowing each riders specific measurements.

    For reference, here is my bike.(the only garage door I have is on my greenhouse and yes, I have been too lazy to cut the steerer tube all summer)

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    I have had a creak since day one. Pulled the seat post, retorqued everything, changed components, greased, and lubed but still it's there. First creak I haven't been able to solve but the ride is so good that I am willing to live with the squirrel in the frame.

    Even with the creak, I am thinking about getting a second one but I wish Devinci would change some things. An integrated headset has no place on a mountain bike these days unless you are building a 4 lb World Cup XC frame. If Devinci is going to hang a 71 degree head angle on a bike, at least give us the ability to slacken it out via an angleset. I disliked integrated headsets on my road bike ten years ago and I dislike it 4x more now on my mtn bike.

    My bike had the same noise. It's a case with the Dixon as well. The rocker-arm connected to the shock is where you most likely find the issue. Untighten the bolt, clean everything and put back together. I chose to put on some grease as well. This solved the issue for both me and a friend. I need to do this once and a while, and especially if I've had a few wet/muddy days. I'm considering changing to a RWC bearing hardware to permanently solve it and smoothen up the suspension even more. http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id275.html

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    My Atlas Carbon is the most fun bike I've ever ridden. I bought my frame and all the bits to build it from Ordinary Bicycle Repair. I'm 5' 7.5" I'm riding the small frame 23 effective top tube. 70mm stem 740mm bars. 120mm fork is perfect for technical xc riding. I ride this frame with 32% sag and never use Propedal on the shock and I never feel any pedal bob. I'm sold on Split Pivot. The front end lofts so easy I've gained a whole new bag of skills due the bike. I can pull up the front wheel into a manual and then bunny hop logs. I can pedal drop without fear. These are things I could never do on other 29ers. The bike simply makes me a Much more skilled rider. A guy on a tallboy carbon was following me on a ride the other day and asked if learned on a 26er. I responded "no, it's the short chain stays on this bike that makes it so playful and allows me to ride in a way that I'm hitting all the technical lines on the trails. Btw, low setting geo with my 120 fork. I tried the high setting, didn't like it. Short rear end and steeper head angle took away from stability.

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    My frame creaked when I first assembled it. Turned out to be the top shock mount. I greased the shaft and that fixed it. It's never made a noise again, I've been riding it 5 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    A must-have reference doc for Atlas Carbon owners. Cheers!

    Attachment 812266
    I am unable to bring up this attachment. Can you re-post it or PM it?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryadam View Post
    I am unable to bring up this attachment. Can you re-post it or PM it?

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    Here ya go!
    Attachment 8306582013 Atlas Carbon Technical Manual.pdf

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    Hello,

    I am thinking about an Atlas Carbon for using as the one and only bike for every time of the year. So this will continue rides in the snow, dust and mud including some XC and Marathon racing. I have great experience with Chris King Bottom Brackets and Headsets. Can anyone of you tell me which type of Inset Headset from Chris King would be the correct one. Would probably order it directly with the frame.

    Thanks for letting me know.

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    Devinci Atlas Carbon

    Chris King doesn't make integrated headsets(correct me if I'm wrong). If you buy the frame, it will invlude a Cane creek 40 headset. You wanna go higher quality, a CC 110 would probably be your best bet.

    For tapered fork, this is headset type you need:
    Upper IS42/28.6
    Lower IS52/40

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    Hello Nilsern,

    thank you for your information. That is good to know. Your correct there is no CK headset with this information. I could´t find the 110 upper part but the lower is available. Will start with the 40 and see how long it will work when the bike is probably there.

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    Hey guys, I am considering the atlas carbon. How is the bike for climbing? I know the bike will be plenty of fun on the downhill but where I am from requires a lot of climbing to get to the fun stuff. I will be using xx1 with a 32-34t ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by atekt View Post
    Hey guys, I am considering the atlas carbon. How is the bike for climbing? I know the bike will be plenty of fun on the downhill but where I am from requires a lot of climbing to get to the fun stuff. I will be using xx1 with a 32-34t ring
    It's a do it all bike. I live in an area where there are almost only ups and downs. "What goes up must come down." And sometimes it's really steep as well. I'm using at Talas 34 fork, and it is perfect for my kind of riding. The geo in low setting(fork)is great for climbing and alround trail-riding. Makea it fun and versitale. Ones I'm on the top, I usually have long decentes. By flicking the fork to full travel (140mm) I suddenly have gone from a quick xc/trailbike to a decent Enduro-machine. I don't do big drops, but for me it's stable and playful(short cs), makes you wanna jump all small rocks and roots you see. Have fun

    My recomendation, if you want the best of both, go with a traveladjustable fork. If not, go 120mm the best alround length for this bike.


    This is my first 29'er, but I love it. Have demoed a couple of other brands in the 120mm category, but the Atlas was the most fun.

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    I ride a 120mm fork on mine and it climbs VERY well, especially standing. With a 32 or 34t front ring, you would be standing on the steep climbs, so this bike is perfect for your needs. I live in NW Arkansas, no major down hills, but tons of steep ups and downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Wolf View Post
    Sorry about the thread jack, but the attachments still elude me and the admin is not able to help.

    Can someone that is able to access the Atlas Carbon Tech Manual attachment , pleases email to: nbadam at cox dot net.

    Thanks

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    The sizing of this bike is driving me crazy - or better stated - the lack of the bike available to demo for fit is...

    I'm between 5'10" and 5'11". Relatively long arms. I'm currently on a bike with a 24" ETT, running a Thomson setback post with the seat pushed back a far bit, 110mm stem and flat bars. The bike is an older Ellsworth Evolve, with 'standard' seat tube angle of 73d. I'm pretty comfortable with the fit.

    I looks like with the more relaxed seat tube angle on the Atlas, I'd need to run a straight post to keep my position over the bottom bracket consistent. My current Thomson post has 16mm of offset.

    I want an XC-oriented bike. I plan to run a 120mm fork. I split time between Austin TX, with rocky, technical trails with short, steep elevation changes, and the SLC area of Utah - with smoother extended climbing and descents.

    The 25" ETT of the large scares me. Everything I know about bike sizing says 'too big'. The Medium with the 24" tt seems just right - but if my math is right, I'd need to dig out my old 130mm KORE stem from 1999 in order to keep a similar reach to what I have today on the Evolve. A 90 or 100mm stem seems much more reasonable, but then I fret about keeping the front end planted when climbing, which will be exacerbated by the short chainstays.

    It's a shame they don't offer a rental or demo program. I'd be more than happy to pay shipping to try the sizes out. Given that they don't - what is the feedback from you guys on which size I should go with?

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