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    Chupacabra..... Finally!

    The Chupa finally showd up on the hucknroll site. Yeah for Vassago...how long has this idea been in the works? I hope it is a great success.
    Just in time for the season ending sales too.
    Frame is on the way...what to do with it is the biggest question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBRAVO View Post
    The Chupa finally showd up on the hucknroll site. Yeah for Vassago...how long has this idea been in the works? I hope it is a great success.
    Just in time for the season ending sales too.
    Frame is on the way...what to do with it is the biggest question.
    120mm fox fork, and build it up for abuse.

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    Looks real nice. Can't wait.

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    No hydroformed tubes nor a tapered headtube. Looks kinda like an Access XCL 29er frame. Meh. But the proof is in the ride...



    PS maybe I can get one on this year's Black Friday sale... lol, j/k.
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    FYI, contacted an LBS (who is a Vassago distro) and asked if they had these in stock. LBS said no, and that Vassago wasn't returning their calls or e-mails.

    Said Vassago seemed more interested in on-line sales than supporting their LBS distributors, and if things didn't change soon they were considering dropping Vassago all together.
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    From what have heard 2011 Vassagos will be available through online retailers only. 2012 models should be available through all retailers.
    When did the LBS call them? According to their blog they have been without power since Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoisonDartFrog View Post
    No hydroformed tubes nor a tapered headtube. Looks kinda like an Access XCL 29er frame. Meh. But the proof is in the ride...



    PS maybe I can get one on this year's Black Friday sale... lol, j/k.
    Yes, good observation...but my Access is good riding. Geometry for this frame?
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    I emailed them and got no answer, so I hit them up on
    Facebook, and they responded right away and said they have power issues
    And asked me to send another email so I did. I'm sure they will get back to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedogz View Post
    Yes, good observation...but my Access is good riding. Geometry for this frame?
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    Why would it be a bad thing to sell only to online retailers if you are a frame company? I don't see a problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaHaq View Post
    Why would it be a bad thing to sell only to online retailers if you are a frame company? I don't see a problem with that.
    Some people (most people) appreciate the local bike shops. If you don't, then continue to purchase from online retailers. You also won't have to worry about buying those last minute replacement parts that the LBS' generally save our asses with. Bottle cages, chainrings and chainring bolts, relacing wheels, etc.

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    still curious to know what geometry changes the LT plates create...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBadWagon View Post
    Some people (most people) appreciate the local bike shops. If you don't, then continue to purchase from online retailers. You also won't have to worry about buying those last minute replacement parts that the LBS' generally save our asses with. Bottle cages, chainrings and chainring bolts, relacing wheels, etc.
    All of those little items can be purchase online, and are not very expensive other than the wheel set.

    It does not hurt to have a small parts bin to save your @ss when you need those little things.

    A little planning goes a long way, besides, a lot of online dealers also have store fronts.
    Jenson, Cambria, Bike Bling just to name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    All of those little items can be purchase online, and are not very expensive other than the wheel set.

    It does not hurt to have a small parts bin to save your @ss when you need those little things.

    A little planning goes a long way, besides, a lot of online dealers also have store fronts.
    Jenson, Cambria, Bike Bling just to name a few.
    So are you saying that you would prefer NOT to have a local bike shop to go to? I don't understand.

    Sure, I could keep a few extra chains, a couple sets of grips, an extra cog or two, a spare rear derailleur for when I'm feeling gears, etc. I guess I'm lucky in the fact that I have a very good LBS who treats me well, often has the parts that I need or can get them to me faster than mail order in most cases. I like options, and if a company chose not to do business through local dealers, but only online retailers like Pricepoint, Jenson, HuckNRoll, etc then I would probably not buy anything of theirs. If you're going to be an online only affair, then you're the same as bikesdirect to me, and I won't be paying a premium for your product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBadWagon View Post
    So are you saying that you would prefer NOT to have a local bike shop to go to? I don't understand.

    Sure, I could keep a few extra chains, a couple sets of grips, an extra cog or two, a spare rear derailleur for when I'm feeling gears, etc. I guess I'm lucky in the fact that I have a very good LBS who treats me well, often has the parts that I need or can get them to me faster than mail order in most cases. I like options, and if a company chose not to do business through local dealers, but only online retailers like Pricepoint, Jenson, HuckNRoll, etc then I would probably not buy anything of theirs. If you're going to be an online only affair, then you're the same as bikesdirect to me, and I won't be paying a premium for your product.
    your living in the stoneage borhan jenson/blueskycycles/pricepoint all pretty much ship over night for less then what it would cost in gas to drive down to your lbs and put up with traffic.

    on a sidenote CBO doesnt even charge taxes anymore even for california residents. <------ hope you read this jenson ^^

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    I had a hub overnighted recently and it cost me $40. You must drive an excursion. No worries man, I just try to support my local economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeGravey View Post
    on a sidenote CBO doesnt even charge taxes anymore even for california residents. <------ hope you read this jenson ^^
    As a former California resident, how are they legally doing that? From what I recall, as an online retailer you need to collect taxes from in state customers.I can't imagine they are eating 9.25% (or whatever CA sales tax is today) on top of their prices. Wholesale prices aren't that good that they can eat handle another 9+%???

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge View Post
    still curious to know what geometry changes the LT plates create...
    I would say none. They are plates, not sliders.
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    I like it. Im eyeing frames i could build into a light ss racer. This one seems a bit heavy but i do like it a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    I like it. Im eyeing frames i could build into a light ss racer. This one seems a bit heavy but i do like it a lot.
    I'm looking at a Tomac Flint. Not sure I'm sold on the EBB tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoisonDartFrog View Post
    I would say none. They are plates, not sliders.
    If you look close enough in stead of spewing hatred you will see they offer 4 different sets of plates. One changes the rear axle height to accommodate a longer travel fork.

    Also SS plates vs geared plates would give you the option to shorten the wheelbase.

    http://www.vassagocycles.com/switchplate/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBadWagon View Post
    So are you saying that you would prefer NOT to have a local bike shop to go to? I don't understand.

    Sure, I could keep a few extra chains, a couple sets of grips, an extra cog or two, a spare rear derailleur for when I'm feeling gears, etc. I guess I'm lucky in the fact that I have a very good LBS who treats me well, often has the parts that I need or can get them to me faster than mail order in most cases. I like options, and if a company chose not to do business through local dealers, but only online retailers like Pricepoint, Jenson, HuckNRoll, etc then I would probably not buy anything of theirs. If you're going to be an online only affair, then you're the same as bikesdirect to me, and I won't be paying a premium for your product.
    No, What I am saying is with a small parts bin, and the no how to service your bike, you would do away with the last minute run to an LBS. Good LBS are to come by, if you have one stick with it.

    Buying from online dealers will not cause all shops to disappear. Only the ones that offer poor service and selection. There are plenty of those shops.

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    And asked me to send another email so I did. I'm sure they will get back to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    If you look close enough in stead of spewing hatred you will see they offer 4 different sets of plates. One changes the rear axle height to accommodate a longer travel fork.

    Also SS plates vs geared plates would give you the option to shorten the wheelbase.

    Bikes are effin cool - SwitchPlate
    Spewing hatred!? You're a fcuking moron. You have over 400 posts and a "rep" of "1"... that doesn't lie, does it?

    PS/EDIT: Since you are so smart, why are posting tech questions like that here, instead of just emailing Vassago and asking them? Or have they stopped answering your emails too? (not that I blame them in this case) For once, try to be a source of information instead of just expecting someone else to track it down for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    No, What I am saying is with a small parts bin, and the no how to service your bike, you would do away with the last minute run to an LBS. Good LBS are to come by, if you have one stick with it.

    Buying from online dealers will not cause all shops to disappear. Only the ones that offer poor service and selection. There are plenty of those shops.

    If you haven't seen your local economy effected by big box and online retailers, then you're simply not paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoisonDartFrog View Post
    Spewing hatred!? You're a fcuking moron. You have over 400 posts and a "rep" of "1"... that doesn't lie, does it?

    PS/EDIT: Since you are so smart, why are posting tech questions like that here, instead of just emailing Vassago and asking them? Or have they stopped answering your emails too? (not that I blame them in this case) For once, try to be a source of information instead of just expecting someone else to track it down for you.
    How cares what rep is or the number of posts. The simple fact is I was tell you to look around and do a little research before you claim that the plates will not change the geometry bike. Did you design them? No, you did not, and you have no ****ing clue what they do, because you do not have the frame or the plates.

    Yes, spewing hatred! Every time there is a Vassago post you go out of your way to make a negative comment. And I will now go out of my way **** with you, because you are a complete internet ass tough guy how thinks he knows everything.

    **** You!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBadWagon View Post
    If you haven't seen your local economy effected by big box and online retailers, then you're simply not paying attention.
    I think you are not reading my post correctly, and I could care less about big box stores, and do not shop at them.

    But when I can save considerable money from an online dealer, I will take advantage of that. I am not going to pay more to keep a ****ty shop in business. I will support a small shop that has a good selection, inventory, and reasonable prices. There are plenty out there, and I will support those ones, and will continue to do it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    I think you are not reading my post correctly, and I could care less about big box stores, and do not shop at them.

    But when I can save considerable money from an online dealer, I will take advantage of that. I am not going to pay more to keep a ****ty shop in business. I will support a small shop that has a good selection, inventory, and reasonable prices. There are plenty out there, and I will support those ones, and will continue to do it...
    Walmart mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    I think you are not reading my post correctly, and I could care less about big box stores, and do not shop at them.

    But when I can save considerable money from an online dealer, I will take advantage of that. I am not going to pay more to keep a ****ty shop in business. I will support a small shop that has a good selection, inventory, and reasonable prices. There are plenty out there, and I will support those ones, and will continue to do it...
    Looks like you missed his point actually. You said only bad shops will disappear, but as he is pointing out there are plenty of good shops that have been greatly hurt or have gone under because of the economy.

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    Anyone build one of these up yet? looking into it, and can't find any pictures of a built bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggyr333 View Post
    Anyone build one of these up yet? looking into it, and can't find any pictures of a built bike.
    I'm just about finished with my build, still need to adjust brakes, shorten tubing. I will post some pics soon.

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    Grips aint stayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by milksteak View Post
    Grips aint stayin
    What size is that?

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    Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggyr333 View Post
    what size is that?
    16"

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    I dig the green Flows- haven't seen those before. It kinda looks like a big dirt jumper/BMX with that sloped top tube. Let us know what you think after a couple rides. BTW, you in Tejas?

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    Has anyone built this with the LT plates and a 120mm fork yet?

    Just thought I'd let people know, according to the vassago website:
    Frame Material 7005 Aluminum Alloy
    Headset Standard 1 1/8"
    Bottom Bracket 73mm shell
    Disc Brakes Standard ISO brake tab
    Seatpost diam. 30.9 mm
    Seatpost Clamp 35mm
    Dropouts Vassago Modular SwitchPlate System
    Rear Spacing 135mm
    Ft. derailleur Standard
    Rigid Fork That would be lame
    Squishy Fork 100mm. 120mm if you're nasty.
    Tire Clearance Clearance for WTB WeirWolf 2.55

    So Vassago thinks milksteak is lame. Sorry milksteak. they have spoken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkk View Post
    I dig the green Flows- haven't seen those before. It kinda looks like a big dirt jumper/BMX with that sloped top tube. Let us know what you think after a couple rides. BTW, you in Tejas?
    Project 321 for anodized Stan's, a bit pricey though. I'm lusting after some blue Flows.

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    more owner pics please

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    Yes the green flows came from project321. I originally tried ordering some antifreeze green velocity blunts, but they have been discontinued. I laced the wheels myself, then took them to the LBS to get trued. First time I've built a whole bike. Plan on putting it on some dirt sometime this week. Yes Tejas is my home.

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    "Looks like you missed his point actually. You said only bad shops will disappear, but as he is pointing out there are plenty of good shops that have been greatly hurt or have gone under because of the economy."

    "Walmart mentality."

    This is horse %*&#. Tell that to the guy who works his ass off to pay most of his money to the government and feed his family. You think he's worried about supporting his lbs, or maybe just getting food on the table and hopefully having a bike to ride when he has a moment to himself. You're an idiot, plain and simple, if you think people don't deserve to be as happy as they can be with what they are able to afford.
    Also, people should be aware of the risks when they open any business, such as a local bike store, and realize that if the economy hits the crapper, as it most certainly has, they could be in trouble. If you're too stupid to prepare for that sort of thing before you open a business, then maybe your business shouldn't survive. When I have enough money, I go to my lbs. When I don't, I work on my own bike... am I the a**hole for doing that? People need to get off their high horses with all this 'never buy anything online' stuff and realize the reality of the world, and of the capitalist economy of which we are a part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milksteak View Post
    Yes the green flows came from project321. I originally tried ordering some antifreeze green velocity blunts, but they have been discontinued. I laced the wheels myself, then took them to the LBS to get trued. First time I've built a whole bike. Plan on putting it on some dirt sometime this week. Yes Tejas is my home.
    I just did my first build this past winter, all except for lacing the wheels. How tough was it? You say that you took it to your LBS- was that just to make sure it was all ok? At any rate, nice job. It looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerdirragon View Post
    "Looks like you missed his point actually. You said only bad shops will disappear, but as he is pointing out there are plenty of good shops that have been greatly hurt or have gone under because of the economy."

    This is horse %*&#. Tell that to the guy who works his ass off to pay most of his money to the government and feed his family. You think he's worried about supporting his lbs, or maybe just getting food on the table and hopefully having a bike to ride when he has a moment to himself. You're an idiot, plain and simple, if you think people don't deserve to be as happy as they can be with what they are able to afford.
    Also, people should be aware of the risks when they open any business, such as a local bike store, and realize that if the economy hits the crapper, as it most certainly has, they could be in trouble. If you're too stupid to prepare for that sort of thing before you open a business, then maybe your business shouldn't survive. When I have enough money, I go to my lbs. When I don't, I work on my own bike... am I the a**hole for doing that? People need to get off their high horses with all this 'never buy anything online' stuff and realize the reality of the world, and of the capitalist economy of which we are a part.
    Thanks for all the vitriol, but I never said any of that in my post that you quoted. Good or bad, I'm just pointing out that the changing economy and expanding options for customers will undoubtedly hurt even some shops with good service, good community involvement, good mechanics, etc. Whether it's because their customers are struggling and trying make their money work is completely irrelevant to my point that the community loses out when a "good" shop is one that's affected. I'm not telling you to make your buying decisions around that point either, just pointing out that it isn't just the "bad" shops that can get knocked out

    You can't plan a way out of everything, especially since so many of these shops existed long before internet shopping did. Sometimes everything changes and there's no way out. Insulting the business owners is a pathetic way to look at this shake-up that is happening right now. Sometimes the shrewd planner still runs aground, sometimes the fool accidently floats through. Or sometimes the shrewd planner who comes out ahead is the one who runs a less than helpful shop that is more focused on upselling than outreach and the fool isn't good with books but is great for the community, which gets back to my point that no matter what happens to any shop for any reason I'm sad when a community loses something it enjoyed

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    True, perhaps including the quote of your post was unnecessary. And my response was meant more for the general public of people on here who seem to think it's some kind of sin to shop online for biking gear. It may have seemed as if I was singling you and "Flankerdog" out, but I am constantly reading posts damning people all over these forums for not shopping locally. Sure, I get it, and we all should be doing our best to support one another, because that's what a healthy society does. But capitalism doesn't promote that noble ideal, and noble ideal or not, people gotta eat. And if mountain biking is one of the few happinesses one has in this life, or even if it's one of many, people should be able to do it without selling any major organs (because you need those to keep biking, usually...). That said, sure, check out your lbs first when you need something, but if you can get that something online for 1/3 the price, which means you can buy some bread that week... well I'd go for the cheap and the bread, thank you.
    And yes, it often has little bearing whether or not you're a shrewd businessperson, but it certainly doesn't hurt, and I've seen way too many friends and just people in general open up bike shops only to close them down because they run out of money in a hurry. And I've also seen some very shrewd and wonderful people keep their shop open during the absolute worst of times. It wasn't my intent to 'insult' ALL business owners. I see how it could be construed as such and I apologize.

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    if they had gone with a zc or tapered headtube i'd be all over this. I dont want to be limited to a non tapered steerer.

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    For all that have purchased the new chupacabra, what size do I buy. I am 6'1", and I am borderline on the sizes. Does the frame run big or small? Should I look to the larger sized (20) or stay at the (18) at the top of the size line? I don't jump much, or do tricks, I am looking for a bike that is for bike packing, long distance riding and local tech trail riding. So personally i am leaning towards the 20", but this is my first 29er.

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    I think you'd be happier with a 20"

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    I love this bike

    Put probably 150 miles on it so for, and it's been great. My other bike is a 2011 Cannondale Flash 1 alloy that hasn't been touched much since the Chupa was born. This bike handles better than the Flash but that may be do to the grippier front tire, Ardent vs SB8. I have more confidence to take corners with more speed. Also The Chupa doesn't feel top heavy like I sometimes feel on the Flash. I can move my weight forward when hammering and not get the sensation that I'm about to go over the bars. I don't know it could just be a rigid vs the squishy Lefty deal, since I haven't rode a rigid bike since I was a kid.
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