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    too niche for Chinese mass producers
    get an MTB frame 1 or 2 sizes smaller than you would otherwise need and put drop bars on it

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    Chinese Carbon 29er

    I "rebuilt" the fork last week and all went well until I assembled and tested in the garage. The damper dust seal came loose. Took it back apart and tried again. Same issue. Errr. My guess is I messed up the seal installing with out the proper tool. Going to have the LBS install new ones for me this week, hopefully they will seat up.

    I did continue the build with the fork partially assembled. Used a lot of on hand parts and a few second had parts from a buddy.

    It came in at 25.3lbs. A little higher than i was hoping but know I can cut it down with a non-dropper post and lighter pedals. Also will look at lighter tires when the ones I have wear out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NazZaR View Post
    Today's ride on the road went pretty well. Bike is solid, nothing creaks, feels pretty comfy. Though, moving from 660mm riser to 700mm flat bar seems to be a little bit tough - much more weight on my wrists now, they get tired after some time. I need to decide whether i use riser or flat on the MTB marathon with some big uphills and rough downhills next week.
    Nazzar you have had your CS-057 for a while now. How does it compare to your IP-057 frame in stiffness, efficiency and climbing with the flatter seat stays compared to the IP-057 round seat stays that are rigid with no compliance? I have chipped the top of my top tube on my IP-057 and may need to look at replacing the frame. I have grown to like the rigidness of the frame, ridden just over 10,000km. Before my IP-057 I had a LTK-023 with skinny seat stays making it flexy in the rear, good for long rides but the IP-057 being rigid in the rear is more responsive, efficient and climbs better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dereknz View Post
    Nazzar you have had your CS-057 for a while now. How does it compare to your IP-057 frame in stiffness, efficiency and climbing with the flatter seat stays compared to the IP-057 round seat stays that are rigid with no compliance? I have chipped the top of my top tube on my IP-057 and may need to look at replacing the frame. I have grown to like the rigidness of the frame, ridden just over 10,000km. Before my IP-057 I had a LTK-023 with skinny seat stays making it flexy in the rear, good for long rides but the IP-057 being rigid in the rear is more responsive, efficient and climbs better.
    Nice photos, Derek!

    So far, i like the CS-057 frame. It is not much different from IP-057, but overall quality feel is better. Rear dropouts has some flex on very rough descents, and it is nice, making bike more smooth and compliant. Also, it is more comfortable on high-speed cruising on bumpy roads. But it is still very good on climbs too. I've had two XC marathons on this frame already, and it is good, no complaints on how it perform.
    One down note is that something in BB area developed a kreak, again. But i think it is my bottom bracket, not the frame. I will disassemble, clean everything, lube and check it later.
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    Oh, and couple of fresh photos

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    Beautiful photos Derek!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NazZaR View Post
    Nice photos, Derek!

    So far, i like the CS-057 frame. It is not much different from IP-057, but overall quality feel is better. Rear dropouts has some flex on very rough descents, and it is nice, making bike more smooth and compliant. Also, it is more comfortable on high-speed cruising on bumpy roads. But it is still very good on climbs too. I've had two XC marathons on this frame already, and it is good, no complaints on how it perform.
    One down note is that something in BB area developed a kreak, again. But i think it is my bottom bracket, not the frame. I will disassemble, clean everything, lube and check it later.
    Thanks NazZar

    If the frame needs replacing CS-057 will likely be my choice over another IP-057. Like the geo of the frame and the IP-057 has been very solid.

    I have only had 2 mtb frames and they have been chalk and cheese xc frames in comparison with the compliance, seat stay length and handling so the slight variant of the IP-057 would be a good choice for me. The LTK-023 had been good for endurance rides, entered a few races with it with podium finishes in a 8hr and a 12hr race in my age cat 35yrs+ I'm in my 50s plus podiums in a number of shorter races. Haven't raced with the IP-057 but like climbing challenges and did the Strava Giro d’Italia Climbing Challenge last year 21,000m over 24 days promoted as their hardest climbing challenge yet. Of the 94,000 participants only 3% completed the challenge, on the IP-057 with a rigid fork I completed the challenge in 11 days being the 26th rider to complete the challenge riding mostly nights after work 3 to 4hrs of gravel road hill reps in our local forest, most of the riders ahead of me were on road bike riding tarseal. The IP-057 rocks at climbing with none of your effort lost in the frame.

    I have been lucky with my BB30 on my IP-057 with no creaking issues. Bearings have been in and out of the frame a number of times, cleaned, repacked with grease and replaced during the 10,000km.
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    Any one who has a tip to what 'affordable' Carbon frame I should buy for my son with 27.5, thru axle , 14.5-15.5" size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMTB View Post
    Any one who has a tip to what 'affordable' Carbon frame I should buy for my son with 27.5, thru axle , 14.5-15.5" size?
    I'm looking for the same. I've been looking at this one as it's only $199 shipped but I'm not a fan of the PF30 only BB. I'm a big GXP fan so I tend to stay with BSA or BB92.
    15.5 Inch T800 Carbon mtb frame 27.5er UD Matte Mountain Bike Frame Disc Brake

    I haven't gotten a price from Peter yet but this one is at the top of my list for a few reasons: 1) comes from a reputable vendor, 2) short CS's compared to most, 3) short HT while still being able to run a tapered fork, 4) multiple BB options, and 5) a decent 69 degree HA with a 100mm fork. Hopefully the price is justifiable but I won't be picking anything up this winter.
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    Driveline make thread-together 24mm and GXP BBs for bb86/92 and bb30/pf30
    Cups/bearings are guaranteed to be coaxial that way (and stay in place)

    Model name is BB841T, it's economically feasible if you do a small group by (even 5)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruto View Post
    Driveline make thread-together 24mm and GXP BBs for bb86/92 and bb30/pf30
    Cups/bearings are guaranteed to be coaxial that way (and stay in place)

    Model name is BB841T, it's economically feasible if you do a small group by (even 5)
    Thanks! I've seen some of the regular companies making them but they are in the $80 to $100 range. I'll keep that in mind when the time comes. My daughter will ride this year on her current frame then I'll go the chinese carbon route.

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    New Epic😏

    Da HT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Doom View Post
    The 150g $20 Asiacom 760mm carbon bars have not snaped yet and have the same feel as my old Easton Monkeylights. I run heavier bars on my AM bikes but this is for XC
    Just a heads up, after testing 7 or 8 pair of chinese carbon bars over the last couple years, I finally found one that failed the stomp test. Asiacom. If you havent already done so, you may want to pull the bars and test yourself. Full disclosure that I weigh 225, and gave them a pretty good bounce. It may have folded a lighter alloy bar just as easily. But better a few wasted bucks than a broken face.

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    Has anyone gotten a price or purchased a Hong Fu FM476?

    It claims to fit 3.2" tires, which would probably almost definitely mean it would also fit 29x2.5 tires.

    Also is the Xiamen Carbonspeed (which I guess is still Peter's company) with the CS-796 27.5+ which the advertise as either 275x3.0 or 29x2.35. I wish Xiamen Carbonspeed would show us a "top down" CAD file that shows the tire clearance and distance between chainstays.
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    My new one.
    8,9 kg.
    Frame 1080 g only with full paint.

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    Hey everyone. I'm looking at building a carbon 29er from the ground up, but i have a couple questions about models of frames on Ebay. I'm 5'7 145lbs with a 30 inseam. I'm unsure if I'm better off with a 15.5 or 17.5" frame. I commute slot and ride XC singletrack/rocks and some downhill.

    Is this frame the same as an ip256? It looks the same and the weight seems to match.
    http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...85&cspheader=1

    I'm likely going to run an sram 1x11 setup so I figured a bsa bb is my best bet. 27.2 seatpost, 142x12 rear and tapered headset.

    Is there a tutorial or walkthrough on wheelers, hubs and drivers and how they work? This is one of the last things I'm having trouble understanding.

    Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vik61 View Post
    My new one.
    8,9 kg.
    Frame 1080 g only with full paint.

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    Nice bike Vik61, which frame is that? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vik61 View Post
    My new one.
    8,9 kg.
    Frame 1080 g only with full paint.

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    Veeery nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyderman View Post
    Nice bike Vik61, which frame is that? Thanks!
    My bet, it is a Tideace FM-M009

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    Yep, it is a Tideace FM-M009

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    Quote Originally Posted by vik61 View Post
    Yep, it is a Tideace FM-M009
    I read you somewhere ( with Google translate ) that with a 1x drivetrain, it was limited to a 32 chainring?
    Is it true? There is no room for a 34 or higher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonazza View Post
    I read you somewhere ( with Google translate ) that with a 1x drivetrain, it was limited to a 32 chainring?
    Is it true? There is no room for a 34 or higher?
    Yes, I think 32T chainring maximum. I have no 34T for test.

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    Im planning to build a new bike
    I want to have 2 sets of wheels for it:
    29" for summer
    and 650b PLUS for winter riding - has anyone done that? Ive tried to search but havent found anyone who has done it. messaged one of the sellers on aliexpress and he wasnt sure if it will fit.

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    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Lead...7faaab064bBNQL
    this is the frame I have my eyes on at the moment
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    Quote Originally Posted by cale399 View Post
    Da HT
    Where did you get that downtube sticker?
    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    My new frame has 12x142 dropouts and it's my first frame with a thru axle. It came with a QR with a nut on the other side(doesn't screw into the frame). I'm looking for a lightweight options that is not QR but bolt on. Any suggestions.
    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny7 View Post
    My new frame has 12x142 dropouts and it's my first frame with a thru axle. It came with a QR with a nut on the other side(doesn't screw into the frame). I'm looking for a lightweight options that is not QR but bolt on. Any suggestions.
    The China carbon frames typically use the Shimano E-thru axle...but always double check with the seller on what axle your frame uses.

    I came across these on eBay. I might pick one up to try out.

    NeoPRO E-THRU Rear Hub Thru-Axle 142 x 12 mm lightweight anodized colors 32g

    or this

    HardLite Ultralight X-E-Thru 12 x 142-148 rear THRU AXLE 38g | eBay

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    Last edited by Lenny7; 08-08-2017 at 12:31 PM.
    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    Anyone has experience with the CS-496 with normal 29er wheels? Bottom bracket drop seems to be optimal with 29'er tires + 100 mm fork. Not too many options around for a HT 29er with short chainstays from China, almost everything is still 440 or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super-fast View Post
    Anyone has experience with the CS-496 with normal 29er wheels? Bottom bracket drop seems to be optimal with 29'er tires + 100 mm fork. Not too many options around for a HT 29er with short chainstays from China, almost everything is still 440 or worse.
    The only 29er I'm aware of is the Workswell / Sobato 062 with 430mm stays. I have one with a 120mm Sid XX fork that I'm a huge fan of.

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    I posted this in the 29er pic thread, but I thought I would add it here as well.

    Asia Large frame
    XX1 crank
    XTR pedals
    XTR 11 speed Rear deraileur
    XT 11-42 cassette
    XTR shifter
    Loaded Napalm riser
    ESI chunky grips. I'll have to see if I like them. I've alway used Ergon.
    Syntace stem
    Carbon Lefty w/lockout
    Loaded X lite seatpost
    WTB Rocket saddle
    DT Swiss front wheel
    Easton Rear(waiting on my carbon wheelset.)
    22.14 pounds


    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    Here is a vote of confidence for the xiamen cs 256 sl. I rode the tour divide on this frame (2,700 miles) with no problems this summer. I also probably put a 1,000 training miles on it.

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    I've just ordered a tideace fm-m101 in blue gloss. I also got a seat post too.
    Soon as it gets here I'll post some photos.
    Uppo

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew k View Post
    Here is a vote of confidence for the xiamen cs 256 sl. I rode the tour divide on this frame (2,700 miles) with no problems this summer. I also probably put a 1,000 training miles on it.
    Rad man!

    How did you like the geometry?

    I find that the reach on these hardtail frames is still too short. I'm done riding 80mm stems and none of them seem to allow a 6' guy who prefers a 470 reach to even get away with a 60mm stem. Even if they made something in the 455 reach area I could make it work, but no dice.

    Ironically enough, the full-suspension Spark copy CS-FS27 27.5 Plus has great geometry.
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    Has anyone come across a carbon hardtail frame that is optimized for >130mm of travel? Otherwise a 29er with 120mm and clearance to run 27.5x2.8?

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    CS-529 Di2 Build Issues

    Hello everyone. I am looking for some help for other experienced people. I am building up a Xiamen Carbon Speed CS-529 Di2 ready frame from Peter. I have all the parts and am in the assembly phase. I am having a problem running the e-wire internally to the rear derailleur. The route provided is cable only - not e-wire - it will not fit ever. Even if I could get the e-wire thru, it will be exposed more than 7" until it connects into the derailleur and that seems terrible. There is another "hole" with a rubber cap behind the proper location but it will be strange to run the e-wire thru there leaving the "proper" location without.
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    This is how much wire is exposed on my Tarmac Di2:
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    The other issue it the hanger for the rear derailleur. I cannot direct mount the derailleur because the hanger is too "thick".
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    Lastly, I can't find grommet plugs that fit to plug up unused cable routing holes:
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    Any help regarding these issues would be greatly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramsdude47 View Post
    Has anyone come across a carbon hardtail frame that is optimized for >130mm of travel? Otherwise a 29er with 120mm and clearance to run 27.5x2.8?
    Chinese hardtail frame designed around 130mm fork? Aside from the AM frames or the Spark full suspension copy, no. All of the Chinese hardtails are designed around 100mm forks. Then again

    The closest you can get is the elevated chainstay "Stache" copy that is branded as Workswell, Carbonspeed CS-496, On One Rango, etc. These frame are designed around 506mm fork, but at least in the case of the Rango is sold with 130mm forks.

    Plenty of people run 120mm forks on many of these bikes. If you run a 29er with 275x2.8, you'll lower the BB and probably need to raise it up with the fork anyway.

    My main issue with many of these hardtail frames is the short reach. They are still designing around absurd stem lengths.
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    I assembled this IP-057 at the start of summer -- just got around to taking a few pictures. Highlights:

    - RS SID RCT3 100mm
    - OneUp 32T oval
    - Sunrace 11-46
    - XT shift / mech / crank
    - SLX brakes
    - Thomson trail bar
    - Stan's Arch mk3
    - Ardent
    - Nashbar FR1 (love this saddle for $30)

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    CS-529 Build

    Hello, I mentioned above that I was having problems building up the CS-529 frame. After a lot of time tinkering around I was able to resolve the issues. I had to abandon the "proper" rear derailleur internal e-wire route and utilize another hole just behind, but it worked out just fine. I ordered some Sugru to plug the unused ports to make them neat and clean. I am hoping to wrap up the build this weekend and will then post specs and photos for everyone.

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    low steerer

    Hello, first of all, sorry my bad english.

    I'm from brazil, and I bought an LEADNOVO Carbon Frame 17".
    My question is:
    I bougth an ROCKSHOX SID on auction at ebay, but steerer only 13cm!!
    I knew about that size but I buy anyway.
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    Is there anyone who install lower steerer than my in those carbon frames?

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    I think that Tideace FM-M009 is very, very similar (geo is same) to:
    2018 newest S-WORKS 29er carbon fiber mtb frame IP-M901 -Xiamen Iplay Sporting Goods Co.,Ltd.
    except seatpost is 31.6 in Xmi.
    I think Heideli is cheaper, only $280, Xmi 360, that's quite a difference. Really nice frame.

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    ocorlaiti,
    The headtube of the 17" frame is 100mm, your fork is 130mm.

    This only leaves 30mm for the headset and the stem, this is not enough.
    Your fork could just fit in the 15"frame, wich has a 85mm headtube.
    Bummer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocorlaiti View Post

    Is there anyone who install lower steerer than my in those carbon frames?
    It is possible that you could disassemble the fork and have a high quality machine shop make you a new steerer tube in your fork lower, but it would likely cost you more than getting another fork.

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    there's such a thing as steerer extender

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    I've got info from Heideli/Tideace, that FM-M009 frame can accommodate only 2.1 tires. That's really bad, as 2.1 is about 53mm, so 2.2 race kings will not fit...

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    Does anyone know where to get Workswell WCB-M-120? It doesn't seem to be available on aliexpress.

    Ok NVM, it's available from Workswell aliexpress store directly.
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    Do any of the 29er HT frames have internal dropper routing? Was really set on the 056 until realised I needed to run external dropper.

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    Well...if you run a 1x...you can use the opening for the front derailleur.

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    I was going single speed so reckon could make it work with front mech route?

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    I don't see why you not. You should have at least three openings on the front of the frame. I have two on the left side (which I used for the rear brake hose and shift housing) and one on the right. Since I'm running 1x...the right side opening is not being used.

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    Probably mentioned somewhere in this thread, though is there and word of a more modern geometry 29er coming out? Large frame, but with around 440mm reach, 69HA, 430mm stays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Do any of the 29er HT frames have internal dropper routing? Was really set on the 056 until realised I needed to run external dropper.
    I drilled out a bottle cage rivnut and routed through there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Probably mentioned somewhere in this thread, though is there and word of a more modern geometry 29er coming out? Large frame, but with around 440mm reach, 69HA, 430mm stays?
    The Workswell 062 frame or one of the new Boost frames would work. The WW-062 will have a HA of 69.5 with a 120mm fork.

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    Hi,

    I'm hoping to get a little help here. I have read through quite a large amount of the posts here in this thread, and to be honest my head is spinning right now, trying to keep track of all the manufactures and models, and which are best and so on.

    I have tried a 2017 Specialized Stumpjumper HT and really liked it but it is way out of my budget. '

    So can anyone help me with linking to the best Chinese carbon frame which comes closest to the Stumpjumper in design and layout, which supports 29'er wheels, internal routed dropper seatpost, GXP crankset, and maybe custom paint?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick V View Post
    Hi,

    I'm hoping to get a little help here. I have read through quite a large amount of the posts here in this thread, and to be honest my head is spinning right now, trying to keep track of all the manufactures and models, and which are best and so on.

    I have tried a 2017 Specialized Stumpjumper HT and really liked it but it is way out of my budget. '

    So can anyone help me with linking to the best Chinese carbon frame which comes closest to the Stumpjumper in design and layout, which supports 29'er wheels, internal routed dropper seatpost, GXP crankset, and maybe custom paint?

    Thanks.

    Regards Nick
    The Workswell 062's geo is almost spot on with the Stumpjumper HT. You can run an internal dropper if you go 1x.
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    That's perfect! It was the one I had my eyes on, but I was not 100% that it was the right choice!

    Thanks

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    Tideace FM-M101

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    I've just ordered a tideace fm-m101 in blue gloss. I also got a seat post too.
    Soon as it gets here I'll post some photos.
    And here it is. I'll post more photos once I have built it up
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    Hello guys. I'm a bout to get a rather sweet deal on a tideace (or BXT) FM M015 frame.

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    any feedback on that frame? histroy? is it a copy of some known frame or a generic frame altogether? The size I'm looking at is 20,5". Im 187/188cm tall. The specs go higher than my current frame ( TT is 639, I ride 615 with an offset seatpost and 90mm stem) and the seat tube is where I see a potential problem. My ST is 483mm, and the post isn't pulled out all that much. The tideace frame has got a ST at 521mm. I'm afraid that it will look retarded... the post being 3cm (visually) lower......

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    Does anyone here know how long the shipping time is from China to the US? Carrier is EMS??? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babarnicle View Post
    Does anyone here know how long the shipping time is from China to the US? Carrier is EMS??? Thanks.
    That depends on if it gets hung up in customs. Normally, for me anyway, the bigger items like frames and wheels take 2 to 3 weeks.

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    Both chinese frames Ive ordered took just about ten calendar days to get here once they shipped. Usually a few days bouncing around china, then a few days dark with no updates. Then all of a sudden it's landed stateside, and then its usually only a day or two until USPS delivery. But I'm within spitting distance of JFK/NYC, where 95% of my overseas deliveries come through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitsBoy View Post
    Both chinese frames Ive ordered took just about ten calendar days to get here once they shipped. Usually a few days bouncing around china, then a few days dark with no updates. Then all of a sudden it's landed stateside, and then its usually only a day or two until USPS delivery. But I'm within spitting distance of JFK/NYC, where 95% of my overseas deliveries come through.
    Ya, my last frame arrived in 9 days which is super quick to the northeast. The wheels I ordered a month or two back took 3 weeks as it sat in NY for a week. I have had some items take over a month but that is rare and generally small e-packet items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChILd_ReBoRn View Post
    Hello guys. I'm a bout to get a rather sweet deal on a tideace (or BXT) FM M015 frame.

    ..
    any feedback on that frame? histroy? is it a copy of some known frame or a generic frame altogether? The size I'm looking at is 20,5". Im 187/188cm tall. The specs go higher than my current frame ( TT is 639, I ride 615 with an offset seatpost and 90mm stem) and the seat tube is where I see a potential problem. My ST is 483mm, and the post isn't pulled out all that much. The tideace frame has got a ST at 521mm. I'm afraid that it will look retarded... the post being 3cm (visually) lower......

    any insight? please?

    The seller says that he's 193cm, and the frame is a bit to small for him, and I find that hard to believe. My inseam is 86cm, and I'm worried that the seat tube is to long... Cant find many bikes with a seat tube of 521mm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChILd_ReBoRn View Post
    any insight? please?

    The seller says that he's 193cm, and the frame is a bit to small for him, and I find that hard to believe. My inseam is 86cm, and I'm worried that the seat tube is to long... Cant find many bikes with a seat tube of 521mm...
    My inseam is 84cm and most of my bikes have a seat tube of around 470 with probably 180mm to 200mm of exposed seatpost. If I added 50mm of ST, I would still have 130+ millimeters of exposed post. Your inseam is a bit longer so you should be fine. How do the reach and stack numbers compare to your current bike?

    I have no experience with that frame but I have bought a frame from Tideace. Their service is great and the frame as been perfect.

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    I have looked at this thread periodically and have never seen a frame that piqued my interest. Are there any long reach, slack HTA, steep STA frames out there? Something like the Kona Honzo, but maybe even slacker than 68°?
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I have looked at this thread periodically and have never seen a frame that piqued my interest. Are there any long reach, slack HTA, steep STA frames out there? Something like the Kona Honzo, but maybe even slacker than 68°?
    Unfortunately no. Well not that I have seen anyway. I'm wanting the same things. Something along the lines of the Transition Vanquish would work too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I have looked at this thread periodically and have never seen a frame that piqued my interest. Are there any long reach, slack HTA, steep STA frames out there? Something like the Kona Honzo, but maybe even slacker than 68°?
    Honzo is an outlier, all goodness except sta a little too steep imho.

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    Turnoffs: slack STAs, steep HAs, long seat tubes, posts that don't drop, stems longer than 50mm, small cornering knobs.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    Turnoffs: slack STAs, steep HAs, long seat tubes, posts that don't drop, stems longer than 50mm, small cornering knobs.
    I concur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I have looked at this thread periodically and have never seen a frame that piqued my interest. Are there any long reach, slack HTA, steep STA frames out there? Something like the Kona Honzo, but maybe even slacker than 68°?
    +1, and I'm not even on that honzo end of the spectrum.

    I just want 620-630 tt, decent reach, 68-69 hta, threaded bsa, and external brake routing.

    Can't believe it isn't out there...i keep looking and don't see it.

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    I feel like if the chinese manufacturers made such a thing, it would highly outsell the "AM" full suspension bike they've got.

    All they need to is lengthen out the frames while keep seat tubes the same length.

    Which again, considering they've not got a whole bunch of different full suspension bikes (Scott Copy, Epic Copy, etc) with decent reach, it's not like the don't understand the desire for consumers to stretch out a little bit more with a shorter stem.

    The new WorksWell M145 looks good:

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