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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeschn
    That's perfect. Thanks...

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    p.s. fixed the link for you here: http://www.storckbicycle.com/usa/ind...&s=carbonfiber
    That page is really peculiar and unhelpful unless, I suppose, you are buying a Storck product. For everyone else, the difference between these weaves is strictly aesthetic since it only applies to the cosmetic outer layer used for the part. The Storck page shows you what they will look like, nothing else.

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    quite i would like to know who purchased teh frames from either of the chinese companies of which version of weave you went for and why?

    also started a thread like this on pinkbike as have been considering one of these cost effective frames.

    adding to this would the said frames take a tripple clamp front suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowme17
    hahaha lifetime....i think not...
    i have about 350miles on mine but i dont like the geo going back to a steel frame....great deal
    What about the geometry did you dislike? Were any of the measurements on the geometry schematic significantly off?

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    I have just received my frame today from www.gotobike.com.cn.
    Matt carbon instead of the gloss originally proposed.
    The finish looks good to my eyes, now let's see how does it ride.
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    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale
    after you get it built up take note that the cable guides are sharp... i cut my leg on the left side and ripped my shorts on the right side ones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowme17
    after you get it built up take note that the cable guides are sharp... i cut my leg on the left side and ripped my shorts on the right side ones...
    Thanks Mellowme17, I'll do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale
    I actually really like the look of that frame. Is it 3k or 12k weave? How much did it cost? I can't really find any pricing or how to order on their site, their English, it not so good.
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    that one pictured is 12k weave. I dig the UD carbon looks really cool
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    love that can any one tell me if the frame would take tripple clamps or would this over stress the frame as i have a set of marzoci bombers on my current ali framed mtb, or would i have to change to regular type suspension front forks?

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrzejbubez
    love that can any one tell me if the frame would take tripple clamps or would this over stress the frame as i have a set of marzoci bombers on my current ali framed mtb, or would i have to change to regular type suspension front forks?

    cheers
    Overkill.

    But if you use the FRAME as intended (light XC) and not the FORK (downhill/freeride) I am willing to be that you should be fine. But I would stress using the frame for its purpose not the other way around.

    You would also negate having a light bike with such heavy forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan_d
    Overkill.

    But if you use the FRAME as intended (light XC) and not the FORK (downhill/freeride) I am willing to be that you should be fine. But I would stress using the frame for its purpose not the other way around.

    You would also negate having a light bike with such heavy forks.

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    my current ali setup ok isnt a 29ner but its not that heavy either and im not a heavy downhiller or off roader as the traks i go on are like dry mud roads / paths through wooded areas etc so no big air if at all etc just ride to enjoy and keep fit

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    If you are looking at this frame (29er) then you need a new fork anyway since your old triple clamp is for a 26er. Bite the bullet and buy a fork at the same time you buy the frame. Sounds like you need a whole bunch of new parts anyway.
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    Matt finish is great, way better that gloss.

    I think that 3k finish (that's is proposed as option) will be great too.

    But definitely Matt UD finish has to look damn cool!!

    Anyway: How about tyre clearance of the frame? And fork? Spedition time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowme17
    after you get it built up take note that the cable guides are sharp... i cut my leg on the left side and ripped my shorts on the right side ones...
    Ouch. Are they bolted/riveted on, or eboxy'd on?

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    still looking at a 26er really as then i can use all my existing parts as the majority of these chinese companies produce some mtb frames with both disc and v brake mounts which yes because my bike is 12 years old still has v brakes but they are shimano XTR non the lesss :P
    so the thought is buy the 26er with backward compatability and then put all my current bits on and then upgrade furhter still when funds allow.

    on another site some were saying that tripple clamps would over stress the frame and in addition not have much travel so basically create an issue with the new frame, unless i upgraded to regular suspension forks ie single post version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bricke
    Matt finish is great, way better that gloss.
    matt looks nice but goes all shiny where you rub on it.

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    how much, if its half the price of On One then will consider buying one

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    Quote Originally Posted by bricke
    Matt finish is great, way better that gloss.

    I think that 3k finish (that's is proposed as option) will be great too.

    But definitely Matt UD finish has to look damn cool!!

    Anyway: How about tyre clearance of the frame? And fork? Spedition time?

    +1 anyone got a pic of a matt UD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser2
    +1 anyone got a pic of a matt UD?

    Have a look at a close up of a black Tallboy.
    I believe that is what they call UD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jager7
    Ouch. Are they bolted/riveted on, or eboxy'd on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser2
    +1 anyone got a pic of a matt UD?
    The pictures here are pretty good: http://www.storckbicycle.com/usa/ind...&s=carbonfiber

    Look at the picture for Uni-Directional Carbon.

    Oh, and I ordered my frame today. It only came in 12K, unless I wanted to order 30 or more.

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    Wow these look sweet I am actually considering one now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acme54321
    Wow these look sweet I am actually considering one now

    Me too. Group buy?
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    if there's group buy I might be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeschn
    Oh, and I ordered my frame today. It only came in 12K, unless I wanted to order 30 or more.
    Where did you order from, gotobike or hong fu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by syl3
    Where did you order from, gotobike or hong fu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I have just received my frame today from www.gotobike.com.cn.
    Matt carbon instead of the gloss originally proposed.
    The finish looks good to my eyes, now let's see how does it ride.
    Very nice finish, I like the matte looks similar to my ole matte carbon Mojo. It gives a very nice new take on the weave.
    Btw, the matte's low gloss finish tend show every scuff and mark up much quicker than the high gloss, but hey it is a carbon mountain bike and I kinda like to see every mark and ....crease.
    The high gloss outer adds an thicker enamel clearcoat layer of extra protection and tend to hide marks much better.
    There are some thicker low gloss enamels you can add to the outer coat on the mattes to protect that are a nice compromise. To do right it is a bit of work.
    imho, I speculate these direct frames are a great deal and in a short time I think we will see them showing up in the sub 400 dollar price range similar to what has happen with the direct from manufacterer road and 26" mtb carbons. (We need a taiwanese 29er versions to get going for more competition.) Most of these guys are pumping out frames for the big dealers that are just now getting into the 29er market right now.
    Thanks for posting keep us updated.
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    Hello,
    can someone please tell me how much does this frames costs and where can I buy one?
    many thanks

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    Well, the bike frame came in. It only took 4 days from China to Michigan! Wow!!!

    Here are the pics...










    The frame weighs about 1214 grams. And with a 3.7# suspension fork, I expect the bike to weigh about 24 pounds. (Still looking to lose a little weight...)

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    P.S. Desmod... the frame can be bought here: http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/Products.asp?Id=453

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeschn
    Well, the bike frame came in. It only took 4 days from China to Michigan! Wow!!!

    Here are the pics...










    The frame weighs about 1214 grams. And with a 3.7# suspension fork, I expect the bike to weigh about 24 pounds. (Still looking to lose a little weight...)

    Mikey

    P.S. Desmod... the frame can be bought here: http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/Products.asp?Id=453

    Don't mean to get too personal, but can you tell us how much it cost shipped? I've looked countless times at the Hongfu and other sites and can't for the life of me figure that out. Trying to decide on what to order or if it's better to go On-One or Niner, etc. Thanks.

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    in october gotobike quoted 500usd for samples and 400usd for bulk buys (10+ items). they only had 17.5" in stock at that time.

    shipping is ~90-100 for one frame and 150 for 2 frames. they can't fit more than 2 frames in an international box so any larger quantity will be split according to these shipping costs.


    also hongfu quoted $430 per frame + $15 per headset. shipping is $70 for one frame and $120 for 2 frames. they claimed 17.5" and 19" in stock but i did not inquire further as to what characteristics the frames in stock had, as they offer a lot of options (bb30, 31.6/34.9 seatpost etc).

    some people from mtb-news.de asked about this and said that apart from 31.6 and standard british threaded bb, all other options require a minimum order of 100 pieces and 6-8 weeks waiting time.

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    Jenny quoted me $70 for shipping just the frame. If you buy more stuff, shipping will go up...

    But it's reasonable considering they are shipping via the Chinese equivalent of FedEx.

    And with the money you save on the carbon frame, you can handle a little bit of FedEx shipping...

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    Quote Originally Posted by batiastra
    Hello china company...
    shill alert

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    Does anyone currently make, stock and sell these in a 21" model, for us tall Clydes?
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    Too bad they don't make one for tall people.

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    In December Hong Fu quoted a time frame around mid March for the 21" to be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broseph
    In December Hong Fu quoted a time frame around mid March for the 21" to be available.
    Any ideas on the spec with a 100mm forks for the Head Angle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Any ideas on the spec with a 100mm forks for the Head Angle?
    No idea off the top of my head. I think they might be floating around somewhere. Might want to email them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Any ideas on the spec with a 100mm forks for the Head Angle?
    The geometry hong fu mailed me is the same as the one attached in the OP of this thread and marked gotobike (so probably both companies are middlemen selling frames from the same manufacturer).

    So that's 71.5 angle with 480mm a2c (that's prolly in the ballpark for a sagged 100mm fork)

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    [quote=batiastra]It is a fraud this page sent from China 100% reliable and Spain have an intermediary sotres not gotobike we are not allcarbonbike..........................
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    Quote Originally Posted by batiastra
    Hello china company associated with Spain without joint orders for orders shipments without intermediaries from China are Chinese shipments

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    Hey Boss, I've looked into getting a bulk shipment of these frames in from Taiwan. I have 4 sample on the way for $320USD each. Can you do that same pricing for us MTBR.com members if we all order at once?

    If we order 20 units as members from this site, can you ship them to our homes as individuals. I'll personally pick up 2 of them from you if you can have the delivery out the door in 2 weeks. What does your stocking model look like right now, can you handle a 20 unit order with the stock you have on hand?


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    I've talked to On-One's USA rep. He didn't want anything to do with selling me $20,000 USD worth of their 29er frames. $20k or $1k didn't matter to this guy, he treated me like every other customer. Pretty bold for an emerging company wanting to open up shop in the USA competing with $500 frames straight from the source overseas.

    Let's see what we, as MTBR.com members, can do about making you the Spanish salesman of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broseph
    In December Hong Fu quoted a time frame around mid March for the 21" to be available.
    That could be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORENZ
    Hey Boss, I've looked into getting a bulk shipment of these frames in from Taiwan. I have 4 sample on the way for $320USD each. Can you do that same pricing for us MTBR.com members if we all order at once?

    If we order 20 units as members from this site, can you ship them to our homes as individuals. I'll personally pick up 2 of them from you if you can have the delivery out the door in 2 weeks. What does your stocking model look like right now, can you handle a 20 unit order with the stock you have on hand?

    Let me know what you hear on this one Lorenz.....I would be in for one of these.

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    16 matt finish @ 320 I am in.

    hey guys.

    I was just about to pull the trigger on a 16 inch matt finish with head set, however chinese ny for the next week.
    lf we get a group buy going i would prefer matt finish. At US$320 with a head set I would get two also , one for my brother .
    been quoted $70 shipping to Oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatrix
    hey guys.

    I was just about to pull the trigger on a 16 inch matt finish with head set, however chinese ny for the next week.
    lf we get a group buy going i would prefer matt finish. At US$320 with a head set I would get two also , one for my brother .
    been quoted $70 shipping to Oz.
    I would think a group buy would have to ship to one address.
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    We have guys interested in 5 frames already batiastra. Let's get this buy in rolling.

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    batiastra, can you post a picture of your 29er Carbon frame and it's geometries for us please.

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