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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe3 View Post
    notice how the seat stay near where it comes close to the tire has a filled in area. I don't think the ltk023 has that. not sure.
    identical...i have the ltk.

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    Hi Lenny,
    Who makes or sells this: Flx-FR-211?

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    Wouldn't it be quicker to just google the model number?

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    Can anyone advise how you route the rear hydraulic cable through the internal routing on a LTK023/FR-211?
    Never installed hydraulic discs before, my brakes are supposedly pre-bleed in the factory, do I need to disassemble-route-reassemble, then re-bleed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezerk View Post
    Can anyone advise how you route the rear hydraulic cable through the internal routing on a LTK023/FR-211?
    Never installed hydraulic discs before, my brakes are supposedly pre-bleed in the factory, do I need to disassemble-route-reassemble, then re-bleed?
    Sure do.

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    Hello, I want to ask about internal cables. Is cable house (shell) needs through all the frame or only outside the frame?
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marus View Post
    Hello, I want to ask about internal cables. Is cable house (shell) needs through all the frame or only outside the frame?
    Thank you.
    the fr-211 has internal housing installed. So you just feed the cable through.

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    installed and took care of the brakelines yesterday...
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    You did not want to go internal with the brake lines? I do the liike the red lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowOnO2 View Post
    I agree with wonka. Buying direct might save money from ebay fees. Plus, any of your questions will be answered by the manufacturer instead of a reseller.
    Do we really know that LT and HF are manufacturers and not just resellers. I think Deng Fu started selling the FM056 before Hong Fu, why would HF allow DF to sell FM056 first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimare View Post
    Do we really know that LT and HF are manufacturers and not just resellers. I think Deng Fu started selling the FM056 before Hong Fu, why would HF allow DF to sell FM056 first?
    I don't think there is a certain way of knowing without actually taking a visit to their facility. Here are some pics that Jenny from HF sent to another user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve-waters View Post
    You did not want to go internal with the brake lines? I do the liike the red lines.
    the internal routing was for shifting cables...external for brakelines.

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    I bought the fr211 from e_baygoods last night and it shipped today. I'm in florida, how long should it take to arrive? also, I don't see a tracking number anywhere. do I need to send them a message to get one?

    I bought a handlebar and seatpost as well, they also shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe3 View Post
    I bought the fr211 from e_baygoods last night and it shipped today. I'm in florida, how long should it take to arrive? also, I don't see a tracking number anywhere. do I need to send them a message to get one?

    I bought a handlebar and seatpost as well, they also shipped.
    Just email them and they'll send you the tracking. It took about a day to show.
    I think mine took about a week and a half. Pretty fast. Mine didn't get hung up in customs like some I've heard of.

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    7 days for shipping, so from ordering to my PO, 10days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimare View Post
    I think Deng Fu started selling the FM056 before Hong Fu, why would HF allow DF to sell FM056 first?
    It's China dude, intellectual property rights are non-existent.

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    Im about to take the plunge myself to replace my L Inbred frame/Reba 100mm, I have already built an LTK for my sister and it turned out nice, but I'm after a HF FM 056 and rigid fork for a few reasons:

    Slightly longer TT, shorter ST and CS, and HT than the LTK. A few things I'm not sure about are the rear tire clearance, I know the LTK is good, but I'm not sure what the biggest width you can run on a HF is, around 2.25 with room to spare I hope.

    The main issue I have is the angles and fork length. The drawings say the HF needs a 506mm fork to give a 69.5* HA. Now that sounds like a long fork and a slack HA. They also offer forks in 470/490/510mm forks. So what is best? I'm leaning towards a 490mm fork to steepen the angle and that will work well if I put a 100-120mm suspension fork on it in the future. This will be an XC/trail bike to compliment a 5" FS 29er. Is anyone else running an FM056 with a rigid fork and if so what A2C length is it?

    I'm thinking of BB30 so that I can future proof it and run SS if I want, does the frame come with the snap rings for the bearings, how easy are these to get seperately.

    Lastly the finish, I was going for white paint/12k gloss, but that will take an extra 60 days, so I'm thinking matte UD, I'm not sure I've seen this in the flesh, how does it look? Stealthy I hope!

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    I had the same concerns but then read that these angles are based around an unsagged fork. Sagged will bring your fork lengtg and HT angles back to where you are used to.

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    TR, any update on your paint? ETA? I am going on a ride tonight before the rain returns.

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    I didnt realize hong fu had different length forks. There was nothing on their website nor was i asked what length I want. Jane at Hong Fu has not been answering my emails and I am starting to get pretty irritated as they have taken my money and we confirmed a design and now I am not getting any info from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    I didnt realize hong fu had different length forks. There was nothing on their website nor was i asked what length I want. Jane at Hong Fu has not been answering my emails and I am starting to get pretty irritated as they have taken my money and we confirmed a design and now I am not getting any info from them.
    They dont.
    You have misread what has been typed.
    Different suspension forks will have different A-C lengths.
    The drawing for the FM056 has been done around an unsagged 100mm fork for some reason. Usually drawings are done around a sagged fork.
    I was told 30-45 days for my painted and decalled frame and fork. Now coming up to 28.
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    Are you sure most drawings are usually done around a sagged fork ? The ones I've seen are all unsagged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    Are you sure most drawings are usually done around a sagged fork ? The ones I've seen are all unsagged.
    Well the geometry for the LTK023 is based around a 490mm A-C and shows a 71 deg HA.
    The FM056 is based around 506mm A-C and shows a 69.5 deg HA.
    Fox F29 is a 500.8mm A-C and Reba is 509mm at 100mm.
    I am assuming that the FM056 is based on a 100mm fork and that based on 20% sag my Fox is going to end up with a sagged A-C of approx 480.8 and a HA closer to the 71 deg.

    Then again my prior post is just a repost of something I read elsewhere.

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    Cool. I hope I didn't seem argumentative. I'm actually surprised by how interested I am in all of this. I've recently gone from steel zelot to compulsive CF thread checker.

    EDIT: Another question. The FM056 is a degree and half slacker than most 100mm XC 29ers unsagged. Would this suggest it's best paired with a newer 51mm offset fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    Cool. I hope I didn't seem argumentative. I'm actually surprised by how interested I am in all of this. I've recently gone from steel zelot to compulsive CF thread checker.
    Not at all.
    As I said, I may be completely wrong and this frame is designed around a 120mm fork and a slack head angle.
    Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post

    EDIT: Another question. The FM056 is a degree and half slacker than most 100mm XC 29ers unsagged. Would this suggest it's best paired with a newer 51mm offset fork?
    As I said, I think they have either done the diagram up around a non-sagged fork or it is meant to be a 120mm frame with a slacker HA.
    Looking at my Blacksheep drawing and it was designed around a sagged 100mm Fox (476mm). This is a similar measurement to what you would get if you took 25mm (sag) off the length of the A-C shown in the HFM056 drawing.

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    Here is mine. It was supposed to be a cheap build with a good fork, but it got a little off track. I was going to get better components and wheelset at a later date, but I think I'll be happy with what I have.

    <a href="http://s823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/?action=view&amp;current=29r.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/29r.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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    Just picked it up today from a buddy that built it for me, haven't even ridden it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    I didnt realize hong fu had different length forks. There was nothing on their website nor was i asked what length I want. Jane at Hong Fu has not been answering my emails and I am starting to get pretty irritated as they have taken my money and we confirmed a design and now I am not getting any info from them.
    The new fork Fk056 comes in the 3 lengths I stated, the old one (Fk053) is no longer made. I'm leaning toward the 490, any reason I should go with a 470 mm?

    I've been getting regular emails from Nancy at HF.

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    Nice 66 North, what finish is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happybiker View Post
    The new fork Fk056 comes in the 3 lengths I stated, the old one (Fk053) is no longer made. I'm leaning toward the 490, any reason I should go with a 470 mm?

    I've been getting regular emails from Nancy at HF.
    Really?
    I would have thought that there is only 1 length of 29er fork and have never been told any different during any of my correspondence with "Jane".
    Are you sure that the shorter fork is not a 26er fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66North View Post
    Here is mine. It was supposed to be a cheap build with a good fork, but it got a little off track. I was going to get better components and wheelset at a later date, but I think I'll be happy with what I have.

    .
    Just picked it up today from a buddy that built it for me, haven't even ridden it yet.
    Looks great. Making mine look heavy now. May need to start a gram cutting exercise on my bike.
    Self employed picture framer, selling the odd cycle part/light as a sideline
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    Quote Originally Posted by 66North View Post
    Here is mine. It was supposed to be a cheap build with a good fork, but it got a little off track. I was going to get better components and wheelset at a later date, but I think I'll be happy with what I have.

    <a href="http://s823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/?action=view&amp;current=29r.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/29r.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    <a href="http://s823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/?action=view&amp;current=XTcrank.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/XTcrank.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    <a href="http://s823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/?action=view&amp;current=XTRD.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/XTRD.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    <a href="http://s823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/?action=view&amp;current=29erWeight.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/BaldurT/29er/29erWeight.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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    Just picked it up today from a buddy that built it for me, haven't even ridden it yet.
    That looks ACE! now go get it dirty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by happybiker View Post
    I'm leaning toward the 490, any reason I should go with a 470 mm?
    Just an opinion here, I own a Hong-Fu HF053 frame (previous model) and run it as a rigid SS. My fork has a 465mm A-C length and the head angle still seems quite slack to me. My mate rides a Cannondale Flash with a lefty and when I ride that, it feels WAY steeper than my Hong-Fu.
    Looking at the geo of the newer FM056, I wouldn't hesitate putting a 470mm fork in it.
    Good luck.

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    I can't find one that makes a top tube longer than 623mm. It's like they designed these bikes thinking everyone is a little kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 41ants View Post
    I can't find one that makes a top tube longer than 623mm. It's like they designed these bikes thinking everyone is a little kid.

    Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
    FM056 comes in 21" ST and 640mm/25.2" ETT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    FM056 comes in 21" ST and 640mm/25.2" ETT.

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    Thanks! I actually have an FM028 Road bike that I built up last year. Looking forward to adding this to my quiver.

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    I'm about to order an FM056 frame and FK056 fork from Hong Fu. The Paypal address I've been given by Nancy at Hong Fu is sales04_at_hongfu-bikes.cn . If anyone could confirm that this is the right Paypal address then I'd be very grateful.

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    After finally receiving an email from Jane at Hong Fu, I am apparently getting a FK053 47cm fork for my FM056 frameand they have a new FK056 that 47/49/51cm. I guess I dont really know how the 47cm fork will impact the bike fit. I understand it will steepen the head angle. I was sort of hoping for a slack comfortable bike so I am now concerned that 47 is too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66North View Post
    Here is mine. It was supposed to be a cheap build with a good fork, but it got a little off track. I was going to get better components and wheelset at a later date, but I think I'll be happy with what I have.

    Weight without pedals
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    Just picked it up today from a buddy that built it for me, haven't even ridden it yet.
    looks good. do you know what that fork weighs? is there something on the inside of the crank to keep the chain from falling off onto the frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happybiker View Post
    Nice 66 North, what finish is that?
    It's the matte black. That finish looks a little funky in direct sunlight. At certain angles you can see the carbon and the seams. Still not sure if I'd paint it though, where I to do it all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dereknz View Post
    Looks great. Making mine look heavy now. May need to start a gram cutting exercise on my bike.
    I wasn't really trying to weight weeny it, but I was surprised how light it was at the end of the day. A better seat post and stem would make it float

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    That looks ACE! now go get it dirty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe3 View Post
    looks good. do you know what that fork weighs? is there something on the inside of the crank to keep the chain from falling off onto the frame?
    I think the fork is right around 4.13lbs and no, nothing yet on the inside for the chain.

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    Guys I which of these frames has the slackest head angle that will accommodate a 120mm fork and has internal routing? It looks like this might be the ticket... HF-FM056 2012 29ER - $0.00 : E-hongfu-Bikes

    How much shipped are these there is no price on the site?

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    Don't do it.

    I'd buy the On-One Carbon Lurcher for $689 before I'd roll the dice on any of thie frames above. It's a carbon frame with awesone geometry for a few extra $ and it's a brand and a company you can trust.

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    I have just built and ridden my frame purchased from Carbonality and have enjoyed it so far. I have to qualify that my first 29er was a steel Inbread, I loved it, but that being said you are looking at $750 and those bikes are made in the same factories. if you want a brand name and want to pay for their marketing then go ahead...if you want to get a bike unmarked that will most likely be ok, go for it. I saw a benefit with the BB30 bottom bracket, tapered headset that for $450 delivered in 3K Gloss finish was a deal I could not pass up. Everybody has their opinion...feel free to make you own choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgercyclist View Post
    I'd buy the On-One Carbon Lurcher for $689 before I'd roll the dice on any of thie frames above. It's a carbon frame with awesone geometry for a few extra $ and it's a brand and a company you can trust.

    On-One Lurcher Carbon Hardtail 29er Frame
    thats a good price for name brand frame. but it could break as easily as any of the china frames though. saying don't do it after 100 pages is kinda silly.

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    totally agree Gabe...if you are on the thread that odds are that you are rolling the dice

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    Quote Originally Posted by chansel View Post
    totally agree Gabe...if you are on the thread that odds are that you are rolling the dice
    exactly, we all know we're taking somewhat of a risk. I'm more worried about the china handlebar than the frame. then again, theres so many people out there riding with name brand carbon handlebars that are suppose to be replaced after 1-2 years of use according to the manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Really?
    I would have thought that there is only 1 length of 29er fork and have never been told any different during any of my correspondence with "Jane".
    Are you sure that the shorter fork is not a 26er fork?
    Nothing stopping you using it on a 26er, except maybe the offset will be wrong. I think 26er forks are more like 450 or less, the Niner fork is 470 and they used to make a 490mm. The drawing I have shows 3 lengths with 49mm offset. Sorry I can't upload the drawing. Her reply was:

    Thank you for your reply.
    and we will have FK056,it a new one,
    the FM053 is out of stock.
    the price:
    FM056:$435
    FK056: $115
    paint color: $70
    ship caot:$85
    we have headset to fit it.$15/set.

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