that appears to be a dead ringer for the Niner frame and fork, with a different BB design.
Not so sure I would call it a dead ringer for the A9C, granted it is carbon and a hard tail but that is where the similarity ends.
The frame pictured has different seat stays, chain stays, top tube, down tube, head tube and a straight seat post. Also, the way the seat stays meet the seat tube is totally different. Add all this to the fact that it probably has a different layup and the type of carbon used and I don't see much relating the two frames.
On first page there is a poster that has purchased one but due to factory problems he stated that he was told to expect the frame in about 2 months (this was in late september I believe). So wont see anything until about the end of the year!
I considered ordering one from Hung Fu, but I cannot seem to get a geometry chart from them. The email keeps saying one is attached, but there is no attachment . . .
They are also not currently in stock and I was told 40 days until they could be shipped. Not sure if that means in 40 days they will have an abundance of inventory or that they are taking orders for frames to be built on an as needed basis.
If I broke a Niner or a Specialized carbon frame, I would be very sad. Breaking a $500 frame is painful, but not as painful as a $2000 frame . . .
Anyone know how you go about ordering and paying for products on alibaba? And also getting them shipped? Do you need to order multiple quantities?
Each manufacturer has a different policy as to minimum shipment. You have to contact the manufacturer and deal direct.
By far the easiest way to get a single frame is to go to aliexpress.com.
With one click, you pay for the item and shipping to your house. Your payment is held by alibaba in escrow until you receive the item. When it arrives, if it's what you ordered and in good shape, you authorize alibaba to release the escrow. If there is a problem, alibaba has procedures to address that.
Once you build it up and ride it and then have a problem, I suppose you could contact the manufacturer and get some relief - though it might be a pain due to the distance/language barriers. As others have said, though, better to break a $300 frame than a $3000 frame.
That said, I have 3 frames, 1 mtb and 2 road, each from a different Chinese company, and all are perfect. One road frame is now 3 years old and perfect, and the other 2 frames were bought this spring (road for my wife, mtb for me), and went through this entire season of constant use, with no issues
My mtb frame is a 26" hardtail built up as a 1 x 9, and I LOVE that bike.
Good luck.
P.S. I also just bought a carbon kayak wing paddle for $275, including shipping. If I bought one from Epic, I would be looking at over $400.
Old enough to know better. And old enough not to care. Best age to be.
This company has a 29er. I am going to get the 26" and will post pics when I get it. They also are very responsive via email and will send you a PDF of the geometry chart. It looks like a blueprint to me. I will put a link here of the company and you can check them out. I have done some research and a poll of owners of these Chinese carbon frames and the response is all positive. The lady who emailed me back (cherry) told me that it is $50 to paint it. So the cost of the 26" with paint and shipping will be just under $500. They also said something about a banking fee but I would talk them down a bit before paying. I will also post my experience with this. Here is the link:
This company has a 29er. I am going to get the 26" and will post pics when I get it. They also are very responsive via email and will send you a PDF of the geometry chart. It looks like a blueprint to me. I will put a link here of the company and you can check them out. I have done some research and a poll of owners of these Chinese carbon frames and the response is all positive. The lady who emailed me back (cherry) told me that it is $50 to paint it. So the cost of the 26" with paint and shipping will be just under $500. They also said something about a banking fee but I would talk them down a bit before paying. I will also post my experience with this. Here is the link:
I've been following this thread with interest and following the links. After poking around a few sites I found the frame for me. I dont even want a carbon frame, but I'd buy this just for the outstanding name brand:
What does "post mount only" mean? Looks like it's set up for disc brakes..... thanks!
Post mount disc brakes is what it's refering to..... as opposed to International Standard mount disc brakes. If you have IS mount disc calipers, they won't work.
I hope you dont have an Ipod, HDTV or DVD player in your house. Thats where all that stuff comes from too.
I have been a MTBR poster since 1998. I am so tired and fed up with the whole boutique BS that is churned out here. It is even dumber than the Motobecane spammers. Ok? I get it. I see what you are trying to say. I am fed up and just plain worn out from getting my chain yanked by piss poor bike builders, the whole LBS business model and their crappy employees. Buying a generic carbon frame is right up my alley. Perfect. No more hype. No more stupidity. No more phone tag.
I suspect many others feel the same way. Life is too short to spend so much time dealing with all the petty crapola and crappy people that call the bike industry home. Seriously. Is there any other group of people more flaky and worthless than the middlemen who work in the bike industry?
True. Vietnam is the new China. And Taiwan is far too small and affluent for much of its computer or bicycle manufacturing to actually take place in Taiwan anymore. Pretty amazing that an island that would fit inside the state of Louisiana, and for which nearly half of it is covered by uninhabitable mountains, is responsible for so many exports. It's an attribute of hard-working Chinese people freed from communist rule. As long as they continue to exist as a separate nation, China will continue economic and social reforms in envy of its "territory's" fine example.
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Chinese wages are growing actually. You guys outta read the economist, they're not at american union nonsense levels yet but they have gone up about a third for factory workers in the past couple years.
Post mount disc brakes is what it's refering to..... as opposed to International Standard mount disc brakes. If you have IS mount disc calipers, they won't work.
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