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    Quote Originally Posted by dancruz
    Ok does any body have one? Are you man enough to tell us it was a mistake? Or that you just wasted 500 bucks....or are you are going to keep it secret...or you just saved 1200 bucks over a niner frame.....or.....or....Tell them to make one like the Tallboy...I will buy one for sure....
    I have one and I enjoy it. I will post a review shortly.

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    Hell my Air 9 Carbon was made in China so I say go for it and save yourself a couple bucks. I've seen a couple in person and ridden with guys that have them and they're NICE! By the way, they're lighter than the A9C too!
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    Pretty good story in the Durango Herald today about Chinese bike manufacturing.

    http://www.durangoherald.com/article...2269920/Spokes

    Relevant enough to this thread....

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    The fun lasted for about 34 miles...

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    That didn't take long.....hmmmm.
    But...how was it for those 34 miles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar
    The fun lasted for about 34 miles...

    did you ever get it warrantied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    site says 700 british pounds. ?
    Target price for the Lurcher is £500, about $700 in the US without the VAT.

    The Carbon 29er Race is £800 with a pre-order special at £700
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozynigma
    That is for the carbon race frame and includes VAT.

    Target price for the Lurcher is 500 GBP (including VAT I assume)

    The Lurcher is 200gr heavier and has sliding dropouts for geared or SS use.
    The Lurcher uses Swapouts, our replaceable dropouts. They are not sliders. You can choose between vertical dropouts and horizontal/track tip ones. Each has an integrated disc mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsieb
    and tires.
    Specialized does not own any tire factories. Their tires are made by contract manufacturers, just as are WTB, Bontrager, Ritchey, Notubes, Intense, and even some models of tires from companies that does have their own factories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar
    The fun lasted for about 34 miles...

    Whoa that sucks I am going to Check mine again.
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    something to consider about the warranty.

    1) It was suggested that I continue riding it until it gets worse. There is no telling when it will fail, but it's cracked carbon on the driveside chainstay. It WILL fail.
    2) They said I could cover it with a black oil- WTF?
    3) After several conversation, they said I could send it back for inspection. Ok fair enough, but it will cost me $200+ to ship it back and there is no guarantee that they will replace it. The pictures alone are not enough for them to replace. If they don't see a need to replace then I will be forced to pay freight back. Judging by their initial response, I would not trust any repair they would do and do I really want to ride another one of their frames? Do I really want to spend half the value of the frame to replace it? Money is really not the issue for me, I just could have put the $600 towards a better frame with more support in the first place. Lesson learned, but I knew that going in so I'm really not bitter at the situation.
    4) Let's say it rode as good as ANY carbon frame, why bother if it doesn't last. Maybe I got a bad apple so I wish the best of luck to anyone else that has one. I'll say this, I REALLY don't like the rear drop out in carbon. Clamping directly to carbon is never good idea.
    5) IMO- Anyone daring enough to ride their carbon fork better have good dental coverage. I would only get a REAL Niner fork.

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    Shiggy what does the Lurcher weigh at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    Shiggy what does the Lurcher weigh at?
    Claimed 1300gm Twenty Nine Inches did a write up on this and the carbon race 29"er here: http://twentynineinches.com/2010/11/...-carbon-29ers/
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar
    something to consider about the warranty.

    1) It was suggested that I continue riding it until it gets worse. There is no telling when it will fail, but it's cracked carbon on the driveside chainstay. It WILL fail.
    2) They said I could cover it with a black oil- WTF?
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    It's not clear in the pic you provide if there's a scratch or a crack and it sounds like they feel the same way. Perhaps if there's a better angle that shows a crack you might get a better result. Carbon gets surface scratches easily.

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    Doesn't look like a typical carbon crack especially as it is not in the direction of fiber lay up. Looks more like a scratch of the resin or clear coat? Typically in that area most of the load goes through the inner chain stay area.

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    just going by the what the pic looks like i would have to agree that it "looks" like a top coat crack. there might be more top coat at the ends of a leg or area because it tends to stack up in there while drying.

    the top coat is more of a sealant than structural strength. it is a very thin layer and done after the layup has been done. think of it as a clear coat for paint. maybe thats why the factory suggested more riding to see if it would crack more or deeper.
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    Taking a look at where we are headed trying to get an reasonably priced carbon 29er hardtail in the USA, I would have to say the the soon to be announced performance Acess Carbon 29er is a good option.
    Most of the bikes mentioned above you have to ship back to the UK or China, or deal with a dealer to have warranty issues addressed and most would be reluctant to give your money back to you after a fair amount of time..
    With the Access you simply take it back to a Performance store and get your money back if you don't like the way the product performed (including carbon failure issues), for the life of the product. (Perf satisfaction guarantee)

    Even better than Spec, Trek, etc.....cause....allot more reasonably priced considering the economy and our hard earned dollars. (something the bike market has not really understood in these tough times.)

    just 1 sense worth.
    The fun lasted for about 34 miles...
    Ps, doesn't look like a crack to me, but it could be. Did you try to flex test say like by (removing wheel of course) pulling the dropouts together and see if you get any separation there. (if you see where i'm going)
    Maybe email the photos to Calfee carbon repair service and have them take a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar
    The fun lasted for about 34 miles...
    Is it possible that it is just a clear coat or trhe finish that is cracked? This happens often in carbon applications (in other than bicycle frames too) and does not always effect the stability or integrity of the carbon itself.

    I think that is one of the difficult things about carbon is detecting what is structural and what is not... BTW, I'm on 3 carbon bikes these days, 2 MTB, one road...
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    Make sure to put something on it to seal it. I had some scratches on my carbon fiber road bike from snapping a chain and my dealer said that raw carbon exposed to air will weaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiknBob
    Make sure to put something on it to seal it. I had some scratches on my carbon fiber road bike from snapping a chain and my dealer said that raw carbon exposed to air will weaken.
    And you have been lied to.
    But...water, dirt and chemicals could be a long term problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiknBob
    Make sure to put something on it to seal it. I had some scratches on my carbon fiber road bike from snapping a chain and my dealer said that raw carbon exposed to air will weaken.
    Not true. Scratches are not a big deal at all unless they go through to the raw carbon. That's what the clearcoat is there for. Most scratches like that are purely cosmetic.

    However, if you have a big chunk of the clearcoat missing, then if something else hits the same place it'll do a lot more damage to the raw carbon, so it just makes sense to patch those up when you can, and use that clear 3m 'helicopter tape' to protect the areas that will get dinged a lot.

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    Actually, now that I think about it, he said UV from sunlight hitting the raw carbon was bad. I had deep gouges all the way through the clearcoat. I found some graphite paint that matched pretty well.

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    you all might like this...
    Some Swiss company is selling what looks like the same bikes

    http://www.zaboobikes.com/beta/terra29_frame.html

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    Interesting business model - they tack on $200 for an unbranded frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Precab
    My GOTO China 29er arrived this week. Looks in perfect order as I too have ridden a 26" carbon from China without issues. I could buy 3 from China for the savings. Dam holiday travel this week will postpone my build. Was $550 to the door delivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrphy
    you all might like this...
    Some Swiss company is selling what looks like the same bikes

    http://www.zaboobikes.com/beta/terra29_frame.html
    It's got to be the same bike... Got this from "Jenny" at Hongfu a couple days ago! Told no stock on the 16" for 25-30days
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    This FF-BF03 is not a 29er but it is chinese carbon, and so far so good. So far I have been able to complete two cross races and a few MTB rides. It's working well. It was ordered with BB30 bottom bracket and I am using and eccentric for BB30 in conjunction with the Chris King PBB009 Bottom bracket spacer kit. 20.65lbs.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellav8ted
    This was probably made in China

    I hope that thing is gonna show up with a HECK OF A LOT MORE seatstay bridge to tire clearance. The frame looks really nice.

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    Captain Beer - thanks for the info on the BB30 adapter! That make the BB30 spec much more versatile to be able to run a regular crank with eccentric options or a BB30 crank normally.

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    Now that is what Im looking for. What is the geometry and would you mind measuring the effective/horizontal top tube length?

    Quote Originally Posted by captain-beer
    This FF-BF03 is not a 29er but it is chinese carbon, and so far so good. So far I have been able to complete two cross races and a few MTB rides. It's working well. It was ordered with BB30 bottom bracket and I am using and eccentric for BB30 in conjunction with the Chris King PBB009 Bottom bracket spacer kit. 20.65lbs.





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    If you got money to spend on this. Go for it. If you worry about warranty, ride it easy and pick the right trail for it. I like the gamble concept on this. Its growing on me.

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    I have the opposite opinion of j69nx, life's too short to ride a POS.

    Warranty is less of a concern to me than safety. Riding is dangerous enough without the possibility of having a frame or component fail. When that sort of thing used to happen fairly regularly "back in the day", I've crashed enough times from product failures to know that I don't want to risk it for the sake of a few hundred bucks (or even more).
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleven-yo
    I have the opposite opinion of j69nx, life's too short to ride a POS.

    Warranty is less of a concern to me than safety. Riding is dangerous enough without the possibility of having a frame or component fail. When that sort of thing used to happen fairly regularly "back in the day", I've crashed enough times from product failures to know that I don't want to risk it for the sake of a few hundred bucks (or even more).
    Then you should never buy a Fisher is your worrying about breaking stuff.

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    Hallo,
    does anyone know something about any chinese carbon 29er rims?

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    FF-BF03 Frame Geometry - Effective TT is 589.4mm


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    Quote Originally Posted by savo
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    does anyone know something about any chinese carbon 29er rims?
    someone posted about them on the wheels forum once. If i recall, when the guy got them, the weight was a good bit more than what was advertised, and he had some issues with the customer service.

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    newsflash

    Quote Originally Posted by o0obruceleeo0o
    the weight was a good bit more than what was advertised, and issues with the customer service.
    i'm shocked
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    Huh! Great! It works like niner's bio-centric (although the offset is obviously smaller) .
    And I was wondering what benefits the BB30 has to offer ???
    More frame options for SS without ugly chain tensioner!
    Can it be used with 73mm wide bb and how much does it cost? I can't find it, at the link.

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    Been riding the Goto China frame for 3 rides SS. Built stiff wheels with 29chubs and as an XC rider of 10 years, I am impressed. I am 225lbs and will report any issues. Pics in the prior post are exact match. Even if this breaks in a year for 550 delivered (bought 2) it is money well spent. 5"11 is the largest size that would feel comfortable on the 17.5". I am 5'10 riding 110 stem as the final choice.

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    great to hear precab
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    Any more news on these frames. Are they out yet, do they have 19 inch frames yet, and what do you guys think, will these frames last a lifetime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeGrazing
    Any more news on these frames. Are they out yet, do they have 19 inch frames yet, and what do you guys think, will these frames last a lifetime?

    As you'll likely be riding it when it fails, it might end your life and therefore of lasted about 5seconds short of a life time


    No frames last a life time the way carbon works I'd personally replace with how much I ride/ my weight, every 2 years, I replace my Alu frames every 3 years though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeGrazing
    Any more news on these frames. Are they out yet, do they have 19 inch frames yet, and what do you guys think, will these frames last a lifetime?
    hahaha lifetime....i think not...
    i have about 350miles on mine but i dont like the geo going back to a steel frame....great deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrphy
    you all might like this...
    Some Swiss company is selling what looks like the same bikes

    http://www.zaboobikes.com/beta/terra29_frame.html

    These sure look like Axman, GoToBike, HongFu, etc, with someones "brand" name painted on them.
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    Links to these 29er frames? e-hongfu bikes don't seem to have them?

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    Can someone explain the difference between 3k, 12k and UD, and the benefits of each. Pics would be helpful too!

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeschn
    Can someone explain the difference between 3k, 12k and UD, and the benefits of each. Pics would be helpful too!

    Thanks,

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    These guys can:
    http://http://www.storckbicycle.com/...&s=carbonfiber

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    That's perfect. Thanks...

    Mikey

    p.s. fixed the link for you here: http://www.storckbicycle.com/usa/ind...&s=carbonfiber

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    Looking at the length of the HT on the Go To bike on the first page, your not gonna be able to run a tapered Rock Shox fork on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeschn
    That's perfect. Thanks...

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    p.s. fixed the link for you here: http://www.storckbicycle.com/usa/ind...&s=carbonfiber
    That page is really peculiar and unhelpful unless, I suppose, you are buying a Storck product. For everyone else, the difference between these weaves is strictly aesthetic since it only applies to the cosmetic outer layer used for the part. The Storck page shows you what they will look like, nothing else.

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    quite i would like to know who purchased teh frames from either of the chinese companies of which version of weave you went for and why?

    also started a thread like this on pinkbike as have been considering one of these cost effective frames.

    adding to this would the said frames take a tripple clamp front suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowme17
    hahaha lifetime....i think not...
    i have about 350miles on mine but i dont like the geo going back to a steel frame....great deal
    What about the geometry did you dislike? Were any of the measurements on the geometry schematic significantly off?

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    I have just received my frame today from www.gotobike.com.cn.
    Matt carbon instead of the gloss originally proposed.
    The finish looks good to my eyes, now let's see how does it ride.
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    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale
    after you get it built up take note that the cable guides are sharp... i cut my leg on the left side and ripped my shorts on the right side ones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowme17
    after you get it built up take note that the cable guides are sharp... i cut my leg on the left side and ripped my shorts on the right side ones...
    Thanks Mellowme17, I'll do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I forgot: 1220gr (2,6 Lbs aprox) in my scale
    I actually really like the look of that frame. Is it 3k or 12k weave? How much did it cost? I can't really find any pricing or how to order on their site, their English, it not so good.
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    that one pictured is 12k weave. I dig the UD carbon looks really cool
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    love that can any one tell me if the frame would take tripple clamps or would this over stress the frame as i have a set of marzoci bombers on my current ali framed mtb, or would i have to change to regular type suspension front forks?

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrzejbubez
    love that can any one tell me if the frame would take tripple clamps or would this over stress the frame as i have a set of marzoci bombers on my current ali framed mtb, or would i have to change to regular type suspension front forks?

    cheers
    Overkill.

    But if you use the FRAME as intended (light XC) and not the FORK (downhill/freeride) I am willing to be that you should be fine. But I would stress using the frame for its purpose not the other way around.

    You would also negate having a light bike with such heavy forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan_d
    Overkill.

    But if you use the FRAME as intended (light XC) and not the FORK (downhill/freeride) I am willing to be that you should be fine. But I would stress using the frame for its purpose not the other way around.

    You would also negate having a light bike with such heavy forks.

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    my current ali setup ok isnt a 29ner but its not that heavy either and im not a heavy downhiller or off roader as the traks i go on are like dry mud roads / paths through wooded areas etc so no big air if at all etc just ride to enjoy and keep fit

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    If you are looking at this frame (29er) then you need a new fork anyway since your old triple clamp is for a 26er. Bite the bullet and buy a fork at the same time you buy the frame. Sounds like you need a whole bunch of new parts anyway.
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    Matt finish is great, way better that gloss.

    I think that 3k finish (that's is proposed as option) will be great too.

    But definitely Matt UD finish has to look damn cool!!

    Anyway: How about tyre clearance of the frame? And fork? Spedition time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowme17
    after you get it built up take note that the cable guides are sharp... i cut my leg on the left side and ripped my shorts on the right side ones...
    Ouch. Are they bolted/riveted on, or eboxy'd on?

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    still looking at a 26er really as then i can use all my existing parts as the majority of these chinese companies produce some mtb frames with both disc and v brake mounts which yes because my bike is 12 years old still has v brakes but they are shimano XTR non the lesss :P
    so the thought is buy the 26er with backward compatability and then put all my current bits on and then upgrade furhter still when funds allow.

    on another site some were saying that tripple clamps would over stress the frame and in addition not have much travel so basically create an issue with the new frame, unless i upgraded to regular suspension forks ie single post version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bricke
    Matt finish is great, way better that gloss.
    matt looks nice but goes all shiny where you rub on it.

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    how much, if its half the price of On One then will consider buying one

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    Quote Originally Posted by bricke
    Matt finish is great, way better that gloss.

    I think that 3k finish (that's is proposed as option) will be great too.

    But definitely Matt UD finish has to look damn cool!!

    Anyway: How about tyre clearance of the frame? And fork? Spedition time?

    +1 anyone got a pic of a matt UD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser2
    +1 anyone got a pic of a matt UD?

    Have a look at a close up of a black Tallboy.
    I believe that is what they call UD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jager7
    Ouch. Are they bolted/riveted on, or eboxy'd on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser2
    +1 anyone got a pic of a matt UD?
    The pictures here are pretty good: http://www.storckbicycle.com/usa/ind...&s=carbonfiber

    Look at the picture for Uni-Directional Carbon.

    Oh, and I ordered my frame today. It only came in 12K, unless I wanted to order 30 or more.

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    Wow these look sweet I am actually considering one now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acme54321
    Wow these look sweet I am actually considering one now

    Me too. Group buy?
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    if there's group buy I might be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeschn
    Oh, and I ordered my frame today. It only came in 12K, unless I wanted to order 30 or more.
    Where did you order from, gotobike or hong fu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by syl3
    Where did you order from, gotobike or hong fu?
    HongFu

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuflektor
    I have just received my frame today from www.gotobike.com.cn.
    Matt carbon instead of the gloss originally proposed.
    The finish looks good to my eyes, now let's see how does it ride.
    Very nice finish, I like the matte looks similar to my ole matte carbon Mojo. It gives a very nice new take on the weave.
    Btw, the matte's low gloss finish tend show every scuff and mark up much quicker than the high gloss, but hey it is a carbon mountain bike and I kinda like to see every mark and ....crease.
    The high gloss outer adds an thicker enamel clearcoat layer of extra protection and tend to hide marks much better.
    There are some thicker low gloss enamels you can add to the outer coat on the mattes to protect that are a nice compromise. To do right it is a bit of work.
    imho, I speculate these direct frames are a great deal and in a short time I think we will see them showing up in the sub 400 dollar price range similar to what has happen with the direct from manufacterer road and 26" mtb carbons. (We need a taiwanese 29er versions to get going for more competition.) Most of these guys are pumping out frames for the big dealers that are just now getting into the 29er market right now.
    Thanks for posting keep us updated.
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    Hello,
    can someone please tell me how much does this frames costs and where can I buy one?
    many thanks

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    Well, the bike frame came in. It only took 4 days from China to Michigan! Wow!!!

    Here are the pics...










    The frame weighs about 1214 grams. And with a 3.7# suspension fork, I expect the bike to weigh about 24 pounds. (Still looking to lose a little weight...)

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    P.S. Desmod... the frame can be bought here: http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/Products.asp?Id=453

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeschn
    Well, the bike frame came in. It only took 4 days from China to Michigan! Wow!!!

    Here are the pics...










    The frame weighs about 1214 grams. And with a 3.7# suspension fork, I expect the bike to weigh about 24 pounds. (Still looking to lose a little weight...)

    Mikey

    P.S. Desmod... the frame can be bought here: http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/Products.asp?Id=453

    Don't mean to get too personal, but can you tell us how much it cost shipped? I've looked countless times at the Hongfu and other sites and can't for the life of me figure that out. Trying to decide on what to order or if it's better to go On-One or Niner, etc. Thanks.

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    in october gotobike quoted 500usd for samples and 400usd for bulk buys (10+ items). they only had 17.5" in stock at that time.

    shipping is ~90-100 for one frame and 150 for 2 frames. they can't fit more than 2 frames in an international box so any larger quantity will be split according to these shipping costs.


    also hongfu quoted $430 per frame + $15 per headset. shipping is $70 for one frame and $120 for 2 frames. they claimed 17.5" and 19" in stock but i did not inquire further as to what characteristics the frames in stock had, as they offer a lot of options (bb30, 31.6/34.9 seatpost etc).

    some people from mtb-news.de asked about this and said that apart from 31.6 and standard british threaded bb, all other options require a minimum order of 100 pieces and 6-8 weeks waiting time.

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    Jenny quoted me $70 for shipping just the frame. If you buy more stuff, shipping will go up...

    But it's reasonable considering they are shipping via the Chinese equivalent of FedEx.

    And with the money you save on the carbon frame, you can handle a little bit of FedEx shipping...

    Mikey

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    Quote Originally Posted by batiastra
    Hello china company...
    shill alert

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    Does anyone currently make, stock and sell these in a 21" model, for us tall Clydes?
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    Too bad they don't make one for tall people.

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    In December Hong Fu quoted a time frame around mid March for the 21" to be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broseph
    In December Hong Fu quoted a time frame around mid March for the 21" to be available.
    Any ideas on the spec with a 100mm forks for the Head Angle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Any ideas on the spec with a 100mm forks for the Head Angle?
    No idea off the top of my head. I think they might be floating around somewhere. Might want to email them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Any ideas on the spec with a 100mm forks for the Head Angle?
    The geometry hong fu mailed me is the same as the one attached in the OP of this thread and marked gotobike (so probably both companies are middlemen selling frames from the same manufacturer).

    So that's 71.5 angle with 480mm a2c (that's prolly in the ballpark for a sagged 100mm fork)

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    [quote=batiastra]It is a fraud this page sent from China 100% reliable and Spain have an intermediary sotres not gotobike we are not allcarbonbike..........................
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    Quote Originally Posted by batiastra
    Hello china company associated with Spain without joint orders for orders shipments without intermediaries from China are Chinese shipments

    www.allcarbonbike.com

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    Hey Boss, I've looked into getting a bulk shipment of these frames in from Taiwan. I have 4 sample on the way for $320USD each. Can you do that same pricing for us MTBR.com members if we all order at once?

    If we order 20 units as members from this site, can you ship them to our homes as individuals. I'll personally pick up 2 of them from you if you can have the delivery out the door in 2 weeks. What does your stocking model look like right now, can you handle a 20 unit order with the stock you have on hand?


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    I've talked to On-One's USA rep. He didn't want anything to do with selling me $20,000 USD worth of their 29er frames. $20k or $1k didn't matter to this guy, he treated me like every other customer. Pretty bold for an emerging company wanting to open up shop in the USA competing with $500 frames straight from the source overseas.

    Let's see what we, as MTBR.com members, can do about making you the Spanish salesman of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broseph
    In December Hong Fu quoted a time frame around mid March for the 21" to be available.
    That could be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORENZ
    Hey Boss, I've looked into getting a bulk shipment of these frames in from Taiwan. I have 4 sample on the way for $320USD each. Can you do that same pricing for us MTBR.com members if we all order at once?

    If we order 20 units as members from this site, can you ship them to our homes as individuals. I'll personally pick up 2 of them from you if you can have the delivery out the door in 2 weeks. What does your stocking model look like right now, can you handle a 20 unit order with the stock you have on hand?

    Let me know what you hear on this one Lorenz.....I would be in for one of these.

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    16 matt finish @ 320 I am in.

    hey guys.

    I was just about to pull the trigger on a 16 inch matt finish with head set, however chinese ny for the next week.
    lf we get a group buy going i would prefer matt finish. At US$320 with a head set I would get two also , one for my brother .
    been quoted $70 shipping to Oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatrix
    hey guys.

    I was just about to pull the trigger on a 16 inch matt finish with head set, however chinese ny for the next week.
    lf we get a group buy going i would prefer matt finish. At US$320 with a head set I would get two also , one for my brother .
    been quoted $70 shipping to Oz.
    I would think a group buy would have to ship to one address.
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    We have guys interested in 5 frames already batiastra. Let's get this buy in rolling.

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    batiastra, can you post a picture of your 29er Carbon frame and it's geometries for us please.

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