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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanpez View Post
    My Deng-Fu bike (Same as the LT it seems) has only one on the 17" frame.

    It's actually in a weird spot, I find it kind of annoying as the bottle doesn't come out too easily.

    The 2 water bottle thing is a major deal for people who spend a lot of time in the saddle/race.

    Personally I hate camel backs and I'm not the only person. Seat post bottle mount doesn't leave the bottle accessible and is where the seat mount bag goes.

    -Steve in NJ
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    17.5" Hong-Fu frame has two bottle mounts.

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    My Large LTK023 has mounts for two bottle cages. Many med hardtails have only mounts for one cage.


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    Never ride a plastic Chinese made bike. My 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nath8 View Post
    17.5" Hong-Fu frame has two bottle mounts.
    Thanks, that is good info! I may buy one of these things for race purposes only and two water bottle mounts is mandatory. WTF the LTK does not have two is quite a mystery. How is the tire clearance on the Hong Fu? I normally (I guess always) only use a tire such as a Maxxis Crossmark or Ikon 2.2 or 2.1 in the back anyways. Is that all that will fit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfeely View Post
    Never ride a plastic Chinese made bike. My 2 cents.
    Tell that to all of the professional riders/racers of the world riding Taiwanese frames. Carbon is the newest, latest and greatest in technology. Open your eyes fool. You are only showing your ignorance with such a stupid statement. My 2 cents.

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    Any tall guys on a (20") LTK 023?

    I'm worried the TT will be too short for me (~6'5").

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    Well....

    Quote Originally Posted by sfeely View Post
    Never ride a plastic Chinese made bike. My 2 cents.

    That was deep.

    Stop living your life in fear.

    That's my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvi View Post
    Any tall guys on a (20") LTK 023?

    I'm worried the TT will be too short for me (~6'5").
    FWIW... I have a 20" LTK

    I'm 6'1", more torso than leg. With a 70mm stem it's just a hair shorter than what I'm used to.

    So at your height, I'd guess it would be a little short.

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    You'd prob be better with the GOTO 530mm it has a 20mm longer TT.

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    Any recommendations on one of these for me. 6'3" 35" inseam. I ride a large motobecane 29er and xl rip 9. Rip feels a little big for xc stuff and moto is just a tad small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve-waters View Post
    You'd prob be better with the GOTO 530mm it has a 20mm longer TT.
    I do ride >100 mm stems though.
    I was quoted > 800 $ for the GoTo BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvi View Post
    I do ride >100 mm stems though.
    I was quoted > 800 $ for the GoTo BTW.
    For that price you might as well get the Sette and actually have a warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broseph View Post
    For that price you might as well get the Sette and actually have a warranty.
    Having bought a cheap carbon frame (road fm015), I'd agree with this completely. It's a great frame which I'm fully satisfied with, having ridden it almost 2k miles to date, but I'd argue the max price for any cheap Chinese carbon is about $400ish. Anything more and you might as well get something like a Bikes Direct, Performance, or Sette with a warranty you could realistically use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epiphreddy View Post
    Tell that to all of the professional riders/racers of the world riding Taiwanese frames. Carbon is the newest, latest and greatest in technology. Open your eyes fool. You are only showing your ignorance with such a stupid statement. My 2 cents.
    Maybe if I was a professional racer and got paid to ride what ever they paid me to I would. Pro's break something and a new bike appears.

    If I am going to spend my hard earned money I want something that will last longer than 3 seasons without getting soft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitiate View Post
    Having bought a cheap carbon frame (road fm015), I'd agree with this completely. It's a great frame which I'm fully satisfied with, having ridden it almost 2k miles to date, but I'd argue the max price for any cheap Chinese carbon is about $400ish. Anything more and you might as well get something like a Bikes Direct, Performance, or Sette with a warranty you could realistically use.
    Or step up a weeny bit more and get one of these. At least it has resale value.

    Scale 29 Pro Frame - 918XC.com

    Or when you add up all the bits and pieces,the complete bike.
    2012 Scale 29 Expert Complete Bike - 918XC.com

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    It's Finished

    I've finally finished putting the bike together. I was waiting for the wheels to be built.
    8.1 kg's or 17.8 lb's.

    17.5" Hong-Fu frame
    Pro Carbon front fork
    FSA stem
    FSA carbon bar
    4ZA carbon seatpost
    Selle Italia SLR saddle
    Avid Elixir CR brakes
    XTR 960 cranks with Homebrew 33t chainring, XTR chain & Surly 19t cog
    Eggbeater pedals
    Crest rims, Hope hubs and DT Swiss Supercomp spokes.
    Nobby Nic front tyre, Aspen on the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiqrSicc View Post
    Hi guys, finally finished my build. First time ever building a bike so there was a lot of frustration. Luckily there's a lot of people on this thread with a lot of info that helped me out. Here goes:

    Stans ZTR Flow wrapped in Racing Ralphs
    Chris King ISO QR15 front hub
    Chris King ISO 10mm thru-axle rear hub
    DT Swiss 10mm axle
    2012 Shimano XT group
    Crank Brothers pedals and grips
    PRO carbon seatpost (heaviest carbon seatpost ever)
    Brooks B17 saddle
    2012 Fox Talas 32 adjustable from 95mm to 120mm
    Jagwire cables
    Cane Creek 110 upper headset
    Cane Creek 40 lower headset with crown race reducer
    Ritchey WCS carbon stem
    LTK023 16" frame and carbon handlebar

    Went way over my budget but it was worth it. Only put about 5 miles on it but no issues so far. I'll be using it to commute to work this week and hopefully hit the dirt by the weekend.
    Nice build.

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    This was a pretty cool thread, until it became a political rant. Back to the frames pleeeeeeeze. More pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt sterbator View Post
    Got my Chinese carbon frame built up finally. Budget'ish build. Skimped when I could, splurged where I felt like it, blinged it a little bit but looked for deals. Had a few issues with parts meshing together, or lack or meshing, but no issues with the frame itself. Have only ridden it around the street (last night at 1am, lol). Won't get to ride it for a week or so.

    It's a LTK frame, large. Rigid SS.

    Matt sterbator --- I see what you did there. Great looking bike!

    This is essentially what I am looking to build up, a SS rigid. Which BB did you order, BSA or BB30?

    Thanks!

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    raced the LTK023 frame yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by stevemtu View Post
    here is my lt at the trail head (in my back yard).

    I am 68 inches tall with 31.5 inseam and this is a 16 inch frame. It fits me with a 100mm stem. I still need to put the eggbeaters on, but is 22.3 pounds as built according to the shop scale. Highlights are stans crest wheels, ravens 2.0, xtr crank and cassette (3x9), reba xx. avid cr and xt brakes with alligator rotors.

    I have only ridden it from the bike shop (they did the cable and brake for me) to home on a rails to trail. I'll take it on the trail tonight...hope it doesn't break.
    The race report is here My 29er trial
    To summarize, my best finish in the 5 years I have done the race.

    This is the first time in 8 years I have raced a hardtail and have never raced on any 29er before. Coming off of a 26 anthem x

    About the bike: The frame performed well. It was a longish cross country race and the setup kept my aging back from getting too tired. I did have a crash because I did not get my weight off the handle bars dropping into a sandy spot and went otb. Frame is fine even though it and I hit the ground pretty hard. I will likely use this as my race frame for all non-technical and semi-technical courses next year unless I get convinced that a $2000 name brand frame is significantly better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonytik View Post
    Matt sterbator --- I see what you did there. Great looking bike!

    This is essentially what I am looking to build up, a SS rigid. Which BB did you order, BSA or BB30?

    Thanks!
    He ordered BSA...I'm the one who actually sent in the order for his and mine.

    I think his bike is right at 20.4lbs with the build pictured.

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    Choices

    Hey guys,

    I have read through this thread and want to get one of these frames. What I am looking for is:

    20" frame with BB30
    Fork
    Seatpost.

    Plan or running it SS with one of the Team Beer EBB's

    Not sure what frame I need and how to order.

    Thanks!

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    Really? After 1443 posts, I know exactly what I would buy.

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    I scanned most posts and could not find any about the der hanger on the LTKO23 frame. What kind does it take? Thanks.
    2011 Specialized Allez
    2011 LTKO23 w/ carbon lefty and Stans Race Golds

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    Quote Originally Posted by asetliff View Post
    Any recommendations on one of these for me. 6'3" 35" inseam. I ride a large motobecane 29er and xl rip 9. Rip feels a little big for xc stuff and moto is just a tad small.

    Anyone?

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    Thread is on page 29. Most people should be able to figure it out by page 4 or 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanpez View Post
    Thread is on page 29. Most people should be able to figure it out by page 4 or 5.
    I would give them 10 pages, I'm not a total penis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonytik View Post
    Matt sterbator --- I see what you did there. Great looking bike!

    This is essentially what I am looking to build up, a SS rigid. Which BB did you order, BSA or BB30?

    Thanks!
    Thanks!

    Like Wonka said, it's a BSA.

    FWIW, I only have two good rides on it so far but I really like it. It's very fast and goes exactly where I point it. It climbs well, but that may have more to do with my incredible Hulk legs

    A rigid 29er, SS with tubeless tires is a completely new game for me, not to mention the carbon frame. I've got a little time on a hardtail 29er, and a good amount of time on a 26er SS, but only one ride on the 26er with a tubeless set up. I really don't have much to compare it to. I'm impressed so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    given the title of this thread is simply Chinese Carbon 29er I'm going to ask away. How long do you think it'll be before we start to see no name carbon duallies start to appear?
    Long time read first time quoter, Hong Fu have a carbon 29 dually
    Apparently I don't have a high enough score to post the link?!
    I am researching a hard tail but would love to hear if anyone has bought one of their duallies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beij View Post
    Long time read first time quoter, Hong Fu have a carbon 29 dually
    Apparently I don't have a high enough score to post the link?!
    I am researching a hard tail but would love to hear if anyone has bought one of their duallies?
    Nice find Beij

    Link is here

    EDIT: New thread can be found here
    Last edited by emu26; 09-13-2011 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beij View Post
    Long time read first time quoter, Hong Fu have a carbon 29 dually
    Apparently I don't have a high enough score to post the link?!
    I am researching a hard tail but would love to hear if anyone has bought one of their duallies?
    Ok, wow. Who's gonna to be our guinea pig? Any volunteers?

    Any full geometry charts available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
    Any full geometry charts available?
    I emailed jenny at hong fu about the dually. I asked for the geo chart and a few other questions. She normally is very quick to respond.

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    Yeah, berzerker!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by nath8 View Post
    I've finally finished putting the bike together. I was waiting for the wheels to be built.
    8.1 kg's or 17.8 lb's.

    17.5" Hong-Fu frame
    Pro Carbon front fork
    FSA stem
    FSA carbon bar
    4ZA carbon seatpost
    Selle Italia SLR saddle
    Avid Elixir CR brakes
    XTR 960 cranks with Homebrew 33t chainring, XTR chain & Surly 19t cog
    Eggbeater pedals
    Crest rims, Hope hubs and DT Swiss Supercomp spokes.
    Nobby Nic front tyre, Aspen on the rear.
    Makes me think of this theme:






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    my LTK023 work in progress

    at now i have these flags on my pole :

    LTK frame from China

    tapered carbon tube EP Mattias from Sweden

    Lefty rigid fork BlackcatBoneBikes from Spain

    Enve bar , stem 100mm , seatpost from USA

    Saevid saddle from Spain

    CarbonTi seatpost clamp from Italy

    10 speed Sram X.0 tuned from Germany

    ... worldwide bike

    check work in progress on my blog , link to my signature , ciao
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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    Nice find Beij

    Link is here


    Link dont work, I dont see no dually......

    ahh I see it now

    29ER FULL SUSPENSION


    looks cool, wonder if it includes rear shock or you have to get one yourself, no geometry chart yet......... looks interesting though.
    Last edited by funnyjr; 09-13-2011 at 12:33 PM.

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    any news about the weight of this Full Suspension from HongFu ?

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    WOW! I can't believe they have a FS already. Any word on prices or geo? This could be worthy of it's on thread... 'Chinese Carbon FS frame'

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    Quote Originally Posted by subspd View Post
    WOW! I can't believe they have a FS already. Any word on prices or geo? This could be worthy of it's on thread... 'Chinese Carbon FS frame'
    If you do create one, be sure to include "29er" in that title as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
    Ok, wow. Who's gonna to be our guinea pig? Any volunteers?

    Any full geometry charts available?
    I emailed Jenny last night as soon as I posted the link and the pic. will report back when I hear from her.

    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjr View Post
    Link dont work, I dont see no dually......

    ahh I see it now

    29ER FULL SUSPENSION


    looks cool, wonder if it includes rear shock or you have to get one yourself, no geometry chart yet......... looks interesting though.
    Link worked fine for me last night when I checked it and still works now

    Quote Originally Posted by subspd View Post
    WOW! I can't believe they have a FS already. Any word on prices or geo? This could be worthy of it's on thread... 'Chinese Carbon FS frame'
    Thought the same thing, I will start one unless someone already has.

    EDIT: New thread started here

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    Ltk 23 finally arrived

    So I finally got my LTK 23.It took about 10 days from ship notice. Also tracking was great and I was able to see all major stops from origin to delivery at my house in Canada.

    I have the 18inch bsa BB unidirectional finish in clear coat.

    Out of the box the bike is very nice for the price. It is not perfect but it is very good. I have more jb-weld leftovers and better carbon layup in the headtube of the LTK than my Cervelo S3 so that is one point for them.

    The rear disc mount threads were covered with lacquer but a quick run of a tap cleaned that out.

    The head tube also had a little overspray that I had to clean out.

    My Easton EC70 Zero post fit perfectly and does not rock. I measured the post with a digital caliper and it is 31.55 so well within spec.

    I will be building with Full XX including a new SID WC fork. I will have pics this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syl3 View Post
    I just got an email from gotobike, they don't have a new version of the MTB753 with internal routing

    They will offer the same internal cable frame that everyone else has but apparently in different sizes, 17/19/21.

    It is called MTB854 and it's not on their site yet but they have some in stock already with BB30.

    for pricing you can email Cherry at gotobike06@vip.163.com





    Here's the geometry from LT-Bike LTK023.

    It is the same as gotobike MTB854 but in 16/18/20.

    So it looks like if you want internal cable routing you're in luck, the frame sizes come in very small increments.

    Don't you love the free market?

    Looks like if you want the second water bottle cage (which I do) then you are out of luck with a 16 or 18" LTK023.
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    greatkeenbike

    i've been trolling this thread for some time now while i've been shopping for a Chinese Carbon frame lots of good information. one question has anyone dealt with this company? greatkeenbike frame looks a bit like the MTB853 which i was told by Cherry at goto that they can only sell for $700+ shipping now because they are doing an exclusive deal with a company in Norway and Holland.

    I got the specs for the MFM102 frame and looks like it has 75mm for rear wheel clearance which is something i'm looking for. Does anyone know if any of the other frames have that much clearance? They all seem smaller. thanks

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    Ordered the LTK0023 from Alisa last night. She has been very responsive to my emails and helpful with as much information as possible. Like others noted, there is some broken English at times but it's good enough to get the point across.

    I bought the frame, handlebar, headset and seatpost. With paypal fee it was $582

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    I've posted here before - months ago. I also bought a carbon frame, while not a 29er I know that some of you like to see pics of the frames that people do get and to see how people build them. I just finished the bike tonight so I'll take more pics and list the parts later if people are interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qdawgg View Post
    I've posted here before - months ago. I also bought a carbon frame, while not a 29er I know that some of you like to see pics of the frames that people do get and to see how people build them. I just finished the bike tonight so I'll take more pics and list the parts later if people are interested.
    What a twist... I like it

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    Interesting looking bike - is it square flowing tubes all over?

    Love the flowing lines on it

    Sure you said when you first posted - but who did you buy it off?

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    i love the look of the LT23/dengfu frame, with the internal cable routing and thin seat stays.

    but i need at least a 21" frame.

    hongfu (21") just doesn't have the same appearance. i'm vain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold View Post
    2011 full carbon mountain bike frame,carbon mountain bicycle frame,MTB bike frame products, buy 2011 full carbon mountain bike frame,carbon mountain bicycle frame,MTB bike frame products from alibaba.com

    looks like people are starting to import more in quantity looks just like mine except for more money don't deal with middle men go staright to the source in China. at $320 it can't be beat 1240 grams just shy of 3 lbs I am loving building out one of my glossy frames will post picks when I am done. already turned down $500 for just 1 frame.

    something tells me get the while you can, its insanity and what most likely happened is someone stole or found some sworks dies or mold or scott dies and thats how they are making copies. Because the steels dies is whats hard to come by OCLV the raw carbon fiber matts are cheap and easy to get.
    That is not a 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve-waters View Post
    Interesting looking bike - is it square flowing tubes all over?

    Love the flowing lines on it

    Sure you said when you first posted - but who did you buy it off?
    e_baygoods

    That was the "store" on ebay that I bought the bike from. You can also buy a full package of frame, handlebar, seatpost, stem, and even a seat. I just got the frame and handlebar b/c when I first looked at the pictures it didn't look like the handlebar looked that great. I wish I had also gotten the stem because the handlebar is really nice looking. My frame was $300 + $70 shipping and I got everything in about a week and a half shipped to NY. This is a 26 frame though, so obviously the 29er frame would be more. They do have different styles of frames too if I remember correctly. I bought that one because it didn't look like any frame I had seen anyone get before.

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    Do any of the Chinese direct frames offer internal routing of cables, English (external BB's), plenty of tire clearance for a 2.2/2.3 or so, tapered headtube, TWO bottle cages in a size 18/19" at a cost of less than $600? I have looked and looked and it looks like you can't get it all in one package other than the Sette Razzo 29er at Pricepoint, but it is $850 with shipping. Don't think I want to spend that much. I was hoping for around $500 shipped direct from China. Anyone know and if so which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by epiphreddy View Post
    Do any of the Chinese direct frames offer internal routing of cables, English (external BB's), plenty of tire clearance for a 2.2/2.3 or so, tapered headtube, TWO bottle cages in a size 18/19" at a cost of less than $600? I have looked and looked and it looks like you can't get it all in one package other than the Sette Razzo 29er at Pricepoint, but it is $850 with shipping. Don't think I want to spend that much. I was hoping for around $500 shipped direct from China. Anyone know and if so which one?
    You could try asking them to make you a 18" with a seat tube bottle holder. I wanted a 18 with a BB30 bracket painted in 3k and white......I had to wait about a month from LTbikes only cost an extra $40 for the paint, it looks great. Just waiting for a carbon fork now they all seem to be out of stock.....makes me think they're all made in the same factory.

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    New frame from HongFu with internal cable routing has been announced.
    Product name : 2012 new 29ER MTB
    Item : HF-FM056
    Details : 2012 NEW DESIGN 29ER MTB FRAME
    Size:15.5"/17.5"/19"/21"
    Jennny told it will be finished in 2 month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxidant View Post
    New frame from HongFu with internal cable routing has been announced.
    Product name : 2012 new 29ER MTB
    Item : HF-FM056
    Details : 2012 NEW DESIGN 29ER MTB FRAME
    Size:15.5"/17.5"/19"/21"
    Jennny told it will be finished in 2 month.
    Can you ask Jenny for a complete geo chart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    Hong Fu can kiss my ass!
    I take it they didn't help resolve your issues?

    That sucks. I guess its the chance we take with these bikes.

    Fortunately my LT023 has held up fine. Setup as a SS and really like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    I take it they didn't help resolve your issues?

    That sucks. I guess its the chance we take with these bikes.

    Fortunately my LT023 has held up fine. Setup as a SS and really like it.
    Post your build list and weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    Hong Fu can kiss my ass!
    We all know, or at least, we all should know if we did your due diligence that these frames come without warranty. But, you can still buy another one and have no problems, like most, and still be ahead of the game. It's the chance you take. Lets face it, the only reason we are buying these is to save some $.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    We all know, or at least, we all should know if we did your due diligence that these frames come without warranty. But, you can still buy another one and have no problems, like most, and still be ahead of the game. It's the chance you take. Lets face it, the only reason we are buying these is to save some $.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D1PHAM View Post
    Well said.
    I contacted a souce for 29'er carbon rims........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    We all know, or at least, we all should know if we did your due diligence that these frames come without warranty. But, you can still buy another one and have no problems, like most, and still be ahead of the game. It's the chance you take. Lets face it, the only reason we are buying these is to save some $.
    Yes I look at it this way. This will be my 1st mtb and 1st build project. For a <$400 chinese frame if I decide to sell the frame after 12 months and try something different and the frames still in good condition I may be able sell it for 1/2 my cost price so it's cost me $200 for a years riding. If I had bought a Scale 29 Pro frame, $1500, as someone mentioned earlier which has a resale value, selling after 12 month my cost for a years riding will be higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    Hong Fu can kiss my ass!
    I know you've had some issues with your bike, but after reading your previous posts, wasn't your problem more a rear wheel/hub/skewer issue? I thought you had fixed the problem by using a DT Swiss skewer.
    So why are you so pissed at Hong-Fu?

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    very very interested

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    I contacted a souce for 29'er carbon rims........
    I have been hoping to see 29er carbon rims direct from the manufacturer. The the current $1500-2000 pricepoint is just too steep for me.

    let us know how it turns out. hopefully you can start another thread if successful

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    Quote Originally Posted by whizzkidd View Post
    Pop cans work well also for a seatpost shim.
    Stainless steel shim stock from a machine shop supply house is very reliable, and can also be cut with scissors. Aluminum cans are very soft,

    Does anyone have a direct email for "Alisa Zhao"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eliflap View Post
    my work in progress of LTK 023
    Sweet....!

    Did you happen to weigh your frame before you started?

    Is that the On One rigid fork up front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonytik View Post
    Is that the On One rigid fork up front?
    See post #1456.

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    Went over the bars today on my hong fu and bike flew off the trail, pretty hard crash. I absorbed the landing well so luckily no serious injuries besides my knuckles being pinned to ground by handlebar.

    Recovered my bike in bushes about 10 feet down beside the trail. I thought the bike was done for sure. After the assessing the bike for any damage all I found was little scuff on top tube from brake lever swinging around, asides from that the frame and rest of bike still solid.

    I figure these so called cheap China carbon frames are pretty sturdy, at least no different than bigger name brands.

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    Does anyne have any ride reports on the chinese carbon 29er forks??

    I tried to order one from GOTO and Hung-fu about 2weeks ago but they seem to be out of stock at the moment.
    I've built up a single speed LTK023, the frame looks good........ except for the sloppy seat post is a bit of a worry.

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    What kind of post are you running in your LTK?

    I have an Easton EC90 Zero and it fits prefectly. I measured the opening and it is 31.6 and my post is 31.55. It is not sloppy and fits nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jocamara View Post
    Does anyne have any ride reports on the chinese carbon 29er forks??

    I tried to order one from GOTO and Hung-fu about 2weeks ago but they seem to be out of stock at the moment.
    I've built up a single speed LTK023, the frame looks good........ except for the sloppy seat post is a bit of a worry.
    I have the Goto fork and LTK023 but can't ride, still waiting on parts. Waiting for Sram to release the new X0 10 speed crankset 36-22 and the dedicated front derailleur
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    Quote Originally Posted by jocamara View Post
    Does anyne have any ride reports on the chinese carbon 29er forks??
    I was going to order the carbon fork when I ordered my LTK but Alisa said they weren't making forks. With the minor language barrier I don't know if she meant they don't have stock or they aren't making forks any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajh View Post
    What kind of post are you running in your LTK?

    I have an Easton EC90 Zero and it fits prefectly. I measured the opening and it is 31.6 and my post is 31.55. It is not sloppy and fits nicely.
    I have tried a Easton EC70 31.6 and a couple of other 31.6 seatposts, I can fit a coke can shim with the seatpost and it fits snug.. I've built up one of the posts with a 2 pack lacquer hopefully this will work.


    I've also have a 26" chinese carbon frame I bought a over 2 years ago the seat tube is perfect but it has a alloy sleeve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonytik View Post
    I was going to order the carbon fork when I ordered my LTK but Alisa said they weren't making forks. With the minor language barrier I don't know if she meant they don't have stock or they aren't making forks any longer.
    I had the same response, I don't think they make them.

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    I have the LTK023 frame and planning to use the Rock Shox Reba XX fork. The fork I got has 1 1/8 straight steer tube instead of the taperer tube. Can I use the stock headset that came with the frame and also the Cane Creek 40-series conversion crown race for the straight steer tube or do I need a completely different headset altogether?

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonytik View Post
    I was going to order the carbon fork when I ordered my LTK but Alisa said they weren't making forks. With the minor language barrier I don't know if she meant they don't have stock or they aren't making forks any longer.
    LT Bike do not have mtb forks only road forks. The carbon 29er mtb forks can be ordered from Goto Bike (MFK701) and HongFu (HF-FK053)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dereknz View Post
    LT Bike do not have mtb forks only road forks. The carbon 29er mtb forks can be ordered from Goto Bike (MFK701) and HongFu (HF-FK053)
    Ordered two forks from these guys.

    10 day lead time if you want gloss.

    Xiamen Carbonal Composite Technology Co., Ltd. - Carbon bikes, carbon bike frame, carbon fiber bike frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Ordered two forks from these guys.

    10 day lead time if you want gloss.

    Xiamen Carbonal Composite Technology Co., Ltd. - Carbon bikes, carbon bike frame, carbon fiber bike frame
    What was the price you were quoted?

    Seems a little heavy if you're counting grams(which I am) at 600g. One of the forks even says 720g. That's really high considering the Niner and On One comes in around 550g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjr View Post
    Went over the bars today on my hong fu and bike flew off the trail, pretty hard crash. I absorbed the landing well so luckily no serious injuries besides my knuckles being pinned to ground by handlebar.

    Recovered my bike in bushes about 10 feet down beside the trail. I thought the bike was done for sure. After the assessing the bike for any damage all I found was little scuff on top tube from brake lever swinging around, asides from that the frame and rest of bike still solid.

    I figure these so called cheap China carbon frames are pretty sturdy, at least no different than bigger name brands.
    Right on! Glad to hear you're both ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argama View Post
    I have the LTK023 frame and planning to use the Rock Shox Reba XX fork. The fork I got has 1 1/8 straight steer tube instead of the taperer tube. Can I use the stock headset that came with the frame and also the Cane Creek 40-series conversion crown race for the straight steer tube or do I need a completely different headset altogether?

    Thanks,
    Yup, the cane creek 40 series crown race reducer will work with the headset that came with the LTK023.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonytik View Post
    What was the price you were quoted?

    Seems a little heavy if you're counting grams(which I am) at 600g. One of the forks even says 720g. That's really high considering the Niner and On One comes in around 550g.
    I am not counting grams. Just want to give rigid a try. $130 plus shipping

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    Update on hungfu 53 29er hardtail after several months of hard riding in Colorado. A++. I wish I could say the same for the Talas I got at the same time.....travel adjust failed after 4 or 5 rides.
    I also had a skewer that was not a tight fit and had to replace it with an old style XT. Carbon dropouts have something to do with it I beleive. I have had it happen before with my Ibis Mojo and SC Tallboy.

    I have read again about guys claiming frame misalignment without showing any real technical evidence of that. Specifically I mean not having had the rear alignment checked with the correct tools.

    Well I did that with the frame when I first got it and it was spot on.

    So until I see a photo of someone with the tools showing the misalignment, I would not put to much salt in it.
    Again, those molds are very precise and a very different process than tig and other welding practices in bike building.

    Park Tool Co. » FFG-2 : Frame and Fork End Alignment Gauge Set : Frame & Fork Tools
    http://www.parktool.com/product/fram...nt-gauge-***-2

    But for you guys buying these products that are $ to return, be sure and use a card that will guarantee your purchase and you have no worries, which you should do with most purchases anyway....also checkout the pricepoint sette carbon razzo which is a fine bike.
    Oh yea, and carbon hater trolls ....really don't you have anything better to do ? Get a plastic girlfriend or switch hands.

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    fwiw, i contacted goto bikes looking into getting a 21" MTB854... basically wanting to build something like this:
    China Bike – A Carbon Rigid Single Speed 29er experiment « The Thoughts & Musings of Josh Burns

    response...
    Thanks for your mail.
    I attached the picture and geometry of MTB854,pls check.
    MTB854 is exclisive in Norway and Holland,so we sign agreement with customers who order this model.
    And the price can't be put on the Internet.
    MTB854:USD700/ set for sample.
    We only have MTB854,17'',BB30,UD in stock now.
    Shipping fee for one set will cost USD99 by EMS to US.
    Our stock of MTB753,21'',BSA,3k finish will be ready in 40-50 days.
    MTB753:USD400/ set for sample.
    $800 for a carbon frame without a warranty? that's crazy.

    and it's now exclusive to norway and holland for some reason. weird. i guess companies there decided to buy up the frames and start selling them as full bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomit View Post
    fwiw, i contacted goto bikes looking into getting a 21" MTB854... basically wanting to build something like this:
    China Bike – A Carbon Rigid Single Speed 29er experiment « The Thoughts & Musings of Josh Burns

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    $800 for a carbon frame without a warranty? that's crazy.

    and it's now exclusive to norway and holland for some reason. weird. i guess companies there decided to buy up the frames and start selling them as full bikes?
    Does have a 2 year warranty buy you need to return back to the source.

    I'm guessing they now have sole distributors in those countries. If they had a sole distributor in the US, living in the US you would no longer be able to buy the frame direct from China. You would need to buy from the distributor or the retail outlets they supply. Would be paying extra $$ but cheaper to send back if it broke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Ordered two forks from these guys.

    10 day lead time if you want gloss.

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    Thanks for the contact DeeZee, I just ordered a fork and a few other goodies

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Ordered two forks from these guys.

    10 day lead time if you want gloss.

    Xiamen Carbonal Composite Technology Co., Ltd. - Carbon bikes, carbon bike frame, carbon fiber bike frame
    Does anyone know the offset for these forks? Im pretty interested in using it with my LTK023 coming winter.

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    I just ordered and paid for a Frame, seat post and headset from Long Teng. Model LTK023-ISP for rear disc.

    I am so glad Alisa sent me a pic of the frame to confirm!

    What is anyone supposed to do with this?

    I have asked for a seperate frame and seatpost, otherwise I'll just get a refund (Credit Card on paypal) and buy a Sette
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    Did the product say that it was two separate pieces?! Looks like from the description it is an integrated seatpost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareback View Post
    I just ordered and paid for a Frame, seat post and headset from Long Teng. Model LTK023-ISP for rear disc.

    I am so glad Alisa sent me a pic of the frame to confirm!

    What is anyone supposed to do with this?

    I have asked for a seperate frame and seatpost, otherwise I'll just get a refund (Credit Card on paypal) and buy a Sette
    You do understand that THAT is exactly the frame YOU ordered.

    You ordered a LTK023-ISP...ISP = Integrated Seat Post.

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    LTK023 is what the ones posting here have been purchasing, not the LTK023-ISP model
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    Quote Originally Posted by squareback View Post
    IModel LTK023-ISP
    You see the ISP at the end of the model number? That means Integrated Seat Post...ie...the frame in the photo.

    edit: hehe, you guys are fast, lol, third place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareback View Post
    I just ordered and paid for a Frame, seat post and headset from Long Teng. Model LTK023-ISP for rear disc.

    I am so glad Alisa sent me a pic of the frame to confirm!

    What is anyone supposed to do with this?

    I have asked for a seperate frame and seatpost, otherwise I'll just get a refund (Credit Card on paypal) and buy a Sette
    The ISP at the end of the model number stands for Integrated Seat Post. You need the LTK-023 for the model without the seatpost. I almost made the same mistake

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    And what you do with it is cut the seatpost to the desired length you want and put the seat clamp on (in pic) and you are good to go.

    Of course, you won't ever be able to adjust the saddle height, but if you ordered an ISP, that's what you get.

    That's like getting mad when you order a hamburger and find out that there's beef on it.

    Maybe Alisa can change your order for you before it is shipped if that's not the frame you wanted.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiqrSicc View Post
    The ISP at the end of the model number stands for Integrated Seat Post. You need the LTK-023 for the model without the seatpost. I almost made the same mistake
    ok, I guess I was too slow with the keyboard

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    How am I supposed to know ISP stands for "Integrated Seat Post"? I don't speak Chinese!

    Plus the frame geometry pic she sent me didn't show an integrated seatpost.

    This is what Alisa wrote:
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    For the model LTK023-ISP , it's for disc brakes
    I thought I needed this part for the disc brakes, I'm sure everything will be fine.


    Thanks very much for the help.
    Last edited by squareback; 09-22-2011 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareback View Post
    How am I supposed to know ISP stands for "Integrated Seat Post"? I don't speak Chinese!
    Oh man....duck your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonytik View Post
    Oh man....duck your head.
    lol...I'm giving Squareback the benefit of the doubt in that he was joking...please, sweet baby jesus...please let him be joking...lol

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    If you keep the frame there are a good range of adjustable seat posts available. You may be able to adapt the frame to use one to get different seat height adjustments
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    What seize is your frame? What you paid? I might buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by will-lee wonka View Post
    lol...I'm giving Squareback the benefit of the doubt in that he was joking...please, sweet baby jesus...please let him be joking...lol
    Of course I'm joking. I am fluent in Mandarin.

    The bike hasn't shipped yet, Alisa had sent me a pic to confirm, which I think was a great idea, and saved a lot of hassle for both of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareback View Post
    Of course I'm joking. I am fluent in Mandarin.

    The bike hasn't shipped yet, Alisa had sent me a pic to confirm, which I think was a great idea, and saved a lot of hassle for both of us.
    lol

    Yeah, she was very insistent on confirming everything several times before the order was placed and shipped, which is great.

    She didn't send me a pic of my frame beforehand, but I think they might have done that with the ISP to make triple sure of the order since that's a bit of a rarity.

    Let us know what you do and how the final build comes along, as well as your opinions of the ride.

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