• 07-30-2011
    osty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshM View Post
    What fork travel is on that yelli? Looks awsome! Nice nimble too :thumbsup:

    The fork on my Yeli is a 120mm.
    Thanks!
  • 07-30-2011
    osty
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    The Nimble 9 is pretty damn nimble:thumbsup:
  • 07-30-2011
    cluster_tolerance
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lumbee1 View Post
    Please tell me that 180mm crankarms will fit the Nimble 9. Please...

    This is turning out to be the perfect frame I have been looking for; electric blue, super short chainstays, sliding dropouts, and the ability to tuck a 2.4 Ardent with room to spare.

    180XT cranks fit fine. I never hit my heel either. Just finished a long steepish climb and steep rocky and rooty decent. The bike rocks with 120 up front. Lance sent a couple emails stressing that I try it at 120 and he is right, IMHO. My ride was about 3.5 hours and had a bit of everything. I am an xc type dh'r. 2.4 ardent will fit for sure. So much goodness!
  • 07-31-2011
    AOK
    Can someone with a Large measure the ETT? The Nimble 9 web page says 24.5", but the geometry diagram says 24.2". Guessing that the geo diagram is correct, but it would be nice to get confirmation.
  • 07-31-2011
    osty
    I think my large ett measured approx. alittle under 24" or right at it. I don't have the plumb line etc. so I did it w/ tape measure and eyeballing it.
    Feels longer than my Voodoo Soukri which is supposed to be 24".
  • 07-31-2011
    meltingfeather
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Can someone with a Large measure the ETT? The Nimble 9 web page says 24.5", but the geometry diagram says 24.2". Guessing that the geo diagram is correct, but it would be nice to get confirmation.

    since ETT is measured parallel to the ground, the A-C of the fork affects it, even though the geo diagrams don't reflect that.
  • 07-31-2011
    osty
    hmmmm, I did not know that? Does a longer A/C make the ett longer?
  • 07-31-2011
    meltingfeather
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by osty View Post
    hmmmm, I did not know that? Does a longer A/C make the ett longer?

    Yes.
    Look at the Canfield geo drawings. With the different A-C's they show different axle heights. In reality the axle height is the same and the head tube moves up; so does the BB-- rotated about the rear axle. That slackens the seat tube angle and makes the ETT line intersect the seat tube (in this case 'effective' seat tube) further back. Showing geo for different forks is pretty ambitious. They've done about as good a job as can be done without doing whole new drawings for each A-C, which would be unnecessarily cumbersome.
  • 08-01-2011
    osty
    Cool. Never thought about it that way, guess that's why bike feels better with my 500mm a/c fork than the 470mm I originaly had on it.
  • 08-01-2011
    dubthang
    Loving my Nimble with its carbon Niner fork. The 470 ac is working great for me. The bike is very flickable, and rails corners.
  • 08-01-2011
    Lumbee1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dubthang View Post
    Loving my Nimble with its carbon Niner fork. The 470 ac is working great for me. The bike is very flickable, and rails corners.

    Mor Pics!
  • 08-01-2011
    dubthang
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lumbee1 View Post
    Mor Pics!

    I'll post some more later now that it is all dirty and whatnot.
  • 08-01-2011
    osty
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    This is my blue Nimble 9 w/ parts from my Yelli swapped over.
  • 08-01-2011
    Diver85
    what size is this bike? looks tall. great color though! and exceptional build!
  • 08-02-2011
    osty
    It's a large. The fork is a 120mm; yea kinda tall, but doesn't feel too different than my Yelli with that fork.
  • 08-02-2011
    Lumbee1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by osty View Post
    This is my blue Nimble 9 w/ parts from my Yelli swapped over.

    That is a beautiful bike, Bravo!


    Since you have had both the Yelli and the Nimble, which bike do you prefer for everyday trail rides?
  • 08-02-2011
    osty
    Ha, I just got done building the blue one yesterday evening, but will ride it tonight! I also put together a ss Nimble and rode it this past weekend and it is actually stiffer verticaly than I thought it would be but not as bad as the Yelli. So, i would say that for everyday trail riding I like the Nimble better; both are awesome frames though which is why I'm holding onto my Yelli:thumbsup:
  • 08-02-2011
    noosa2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by osty View Post
    The Nimble 9 is pretty damn nimble:thumbsup:

    Nice hop. :thumbsup:
  • 08-04-2011
    sslos
    Back in San Antonio, got a chance to ride the N9 on one of the rocky, slow speed, technical trails we have here. There were a couple of times that its "differentness" from the bikes I've ridden before threw me off of my game, so I didn't clean everything. But overall, I was able to get myself out of some sketch situations better than before. The shorter wheelbase makes riding certain obstacles, well, different.
    All in all, I am still liking this bike more and more every time I ride it.

    Los
  • 08-04-2011
    Lumbee1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sslos View Post
    Back in San Antonio, got a chance to ride the N9 on one of the rocky, slow speed, technical trails we have here. There were a couple of times that its "differentness" from the bikes I've ridden before threw me off of my game, so I didn't clean everything. But overall, I was able to get myself out of some sketch situations better than before. The shorter wheelbase makes riding certain obstacles, well, different.
    All in all, I am still liking this bike more and more every time I ride it.

    Los

    What kind of differentness? I have a Surly Karate Monkey with a Vassago Odis fork. Before the Odis, I had a Monkey fork. The original fork/frame combination made for a brutal ride and often times, I would have to brake for rough rooty rocky sections. The curved seatstays on the N9 should be a much more forgiving ride. Combined with a Walt fork, this will be a fantastic rigid bike.
  • 08-04-2011
    sslos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lumbee1 View Post
    What kind of differentness? I have a Surly Karate Monkey with a Vassago Odis fork. Before the Odis, I had a Monkey fork. The original fork/frame combination made for a brutal ride and often times, I would have to brake for rough rooty rocky sections. The curved seatstays on the N9 should be a much more forgiving ride. Combined with a Walt fork, this will be a fantastic rigid bike.

    Most of that difference in the rocks comes from the shorter wheelbase and lower BB. There are a few sections where I'd find the rear wheel dropping in a hole earlier than what I became used to on the Unit. No big deal, I'll totally get used to it soon, but for the first time it was enough to throw off my rhythm and momentum.
    I don't really think the curved stays do much for compliance, honestly. Those are some beefy tubes, man. And one of the things that make this bike so much fun to ride also makes it a bit less comfy- that rear wheel is right under your butt.
    You're definitely gonna like the Walt fork more, and I think you'll have a great time on the N9.
    If you are looking for more give, go with a ti seatpost. With the actual angle of the post, you'll get a good amount of flex.

    Los
  • 08-04-2011
    MyMilkExpired
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sslos View Post
    Most of that difference in the rocks comes from the shorter wheelbase and lower BB. There are a few sections where I'd find the rear wheel dropping in a hole earlier than what I became used to on the Unit. No big deal, I'll totally get used to it soon, but for the first time it was enough to throw off my rhythm and momentum.
    I don't really think the curved stays do much for compliance, honestly. Those are some beefy tubes, man. And one of the things that make this bike so much fun to ride also makes it a bit less comfy- that rear wheel is right under your butt.
    You're definitely gonna like the Walt fork more, and I think you'll have a great time on the N9.
    If you are looking for more give, go with a ti seatpost. With the actual angle of the post, you'll get a good amount of flex.

    Los

    Large volume tires are going to make the rig plush. What tires are you guys running?
  • 08-04-2011
    sslos
    Right now, a Rampage front, XDX rear. When I get some time, I have a WWLT/Saguaro combo I want to try.

    Los
  • 08-04-2011
    Ozmosis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobway View Post
    I'm starting to build up my medium. Enabler fork with Larry 3.8 on 47mm Trialtech rim. The b.b. height looks like 11.5" with this setup. 70 degree head angle setup like this. In the back I have a 2.4" Racing Ralph, good clearance despite slammed forward dropouts.

    Can't wait to ride it! Hopefully this weekend.

    Gotta bump this post, due to the awesomeness of the build. I want to see how this one turns out!
  • 08-04-2011
    dubthang
    I second the 'different' feeling when riding tech areas. The rear wheel hooks up quick which removes the slight waiting game on my Peace. When entering a rock garden for example, I'd just pick a line, loft the front end, and pedal into it. I would be in the middle of the thing way quicker than on my old Peace. I can really feel the rear wheel dig in, and plow into the tech areas. That wheel is right under me which makes for a much more responsive ride.
  • 08-04-2011
    Scott forty G.
    Does anybody know what the warranty is like for this frame?
  • 08-04-2011
    MyMilkExpired
    Just got word my Niner fork isn't going to be available until around the end of Aug.............
  • 08-04-2011
    gollub01
    Canfield Brothers frames are under warranty for 2 years from the original date of purchase. This was bumped up from 1 year in 2011. Canfield Brothers also offer a lifetime crash replacement warranty, which in the event of a frame failure after the 2 year period, you are able to upgrade to a current frame for a to be determined price. This is for the original owner.
  • 08-04-2011
    mellowme17
    the warranty was the onlything that had me a little worried because i break stuff... and not by crashing... but i guess i am going to take a risk...
  • 08-04-2011
    bobway
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    I've had the bike out for a few short rides so far. Still working on getting the cockpit dialed in- the Jones bars might not be for me, I'm about to try some regular bars. I have it geared 34/17 right now, that puts the dropouts pretty far forward. 34/17 is a pretty stiff gear for me, I think 33/19 will fit with dropouts almost slammed forward. I tried 34/18, almost fit, would need a broken-in chain.

    I like the bike. It's different than any of my previous bikes handling wise. I thought the short rear end would make it loopy, it takes more effort to wheelie or manual than I expected. May be due to the low b.b. height and heavy front wheel though. I need to try a 29er rear (front) wheel on it. It feels super stable, but still kind of eager I think due to short wheelbase if that makes any sense.

    The fat front set up is fun, reminds me of a monster truck. Tons of traction and cushy, not fast though. I've been pushing it as hard as I can into turns on loose surfaces, the front end has yet to wash out. The rear drifts nice and easy though.
  • 08-04-2011
    osty
    NICE looking ride:thumbsup:
    I know of a few people that run the "fatty" front tire and they love it on the real rocky trails
  • 08-04-2011
    gtluke
    I'm really liking mine a LOT. Few issues though with the chainstays, like they didn't really fit my XX cranks, and y feet hit them as I pedal. Why so wide where they don't need to be? My shoe got caught on the chainstay and stopped me twice on my ride tonight, really weird, never experienced that on a bike before. I moved my cleats all the way out and that helped some. That and there are no mounts for the shifter cables. It rides really really nice though, and thankfully I think it's the PERFECT size and geometry for me.
  • 08-04-2011
    MyMilkExpired
    You must be riding with your toes pointing way out. I don't understand how you're heels are getting locked up in the chain stays??? Seems like if anything you'd clip the skewer...

  • 08-05-2011
    bobway
    3 Attachment(s)
    Louisiana Thursday night
    I put some riser bars on. Feeling good.

    Might go wider on the bars. It's real close though. I started not noticing the bike anymore, just riding.
  • 08-05-2011
    osty
    What did you do w/ the Jones bar?
  • 08-05-2011
    Ozmosis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobway View Post
    ...The fat front set up is fun, reminds me of a monster truck. Tons of traction and cushy, not fast though. I've been pushing it as hard as I can into turns on loose surfaces, the front end has yet to wash out. The rear drifts nice and easy though.

    They are a ton of fun!
    Great looking bike!
    :thumbsup:
  • 08-05-2011
    Gepruts
    Wow!
  • 08-05-2011
    Fleas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobway View Post
    ...Feeling good.

    ...I started not noticing the bike anymore, just riding.

    Even if you picked this phrase up elsewhere, I can tell it's exactly what you mean and no other words would describe it as accurately.

    That's one of the great things about building a new bike: you build it and learn and tweak it 'til it disappears beneath you. :thumbsup:

    Sweet set-up! Stoke on!

    -F
  • 08-06-2011
    LyNx
    Sorry if this has been asked and answered, as I didn't read though all the thread, but if anyone had/has a Karate Monkey and can compare the rides I'd sure be interested. This and the Honzo definitely have me thinking in terms of replacing the Monkey, which I never thought I would.
  • 08-07-2011
    Lumbee1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Sorry if this has been asked and answered, as I didn't read though all the thread, but if anyone had/has a Karate Monkey and can compare the rides I'd sure be interested. This and the Honzo definitely have me thinking in terms of replacing the Monkey, which I never thought I would.

    Lynx, I am in the same boat. I have a KM now but I have been looking for better options. I am having issues with tucking an Ardent 2.4 between the chainstays on the Monkey. My chainstay length is 17.5 with a half link. Anything less and the tire rubs the frame. Running a Ardent with 17" or less stays would be awesome.

    I picked up my Monkey used last September as an add-on bike to my 26" Specialized Stumpjumper. It quickly became my go-to bike for everything. The last time I rode my Stumpy was in March or April and it has collected dust ever since. My Monkey is in good shape but surface rust and signs of internal rust have made me look at other frame options.
  • 08-08-2011
    sslos
    LyNx & Lumbee1, it's been a really long time since I had a Karate Monkey ( about 7 years,) so take this with a grain of salt. I remember the KM being a bit slow steering, and difficult to get the front wheel up. The N9 has neither of these drawbacks. I don't think the rear is any less compliant, and being able to stick a 2.4 Ardent back there makes it more comfy. In my mind, no comparison.

    Los
  • 08-08-2011
    sslos
    100mm update
    Well, the other day, I changed my F29 to 100mm of travel, and just came back from the first ride.
    The more I ride this bike, the more I love it! It just does everything I ask it to, and it really seems to suit my riding style. I've really gotten the feel of it, and it's changing my riding. Sections that I normally needed momentum to clean, I've been able to clean from a dead-stop trackstand.
    The long travel on the front seems to make this even easier. The taller front makes getting the front wheel on top of obstacles almost effortless, and changing lines is automatic. I can see where geared climbing could potentially suffer from a wandering front, but riding singlespeed it's a nonissue.
    Did I mention that I love this bike?

    Los
  • 08-08-2011
    LyNx
    Can't say I've found the Monkey to be slow steering, not with the stock rigid Surly fork nor with a 120mm Minute. I actually had serious issues adjusting to how fast the rigid Monkey steered when I first got it, was super fast for me. It sees mainly road duty now, but when I run it off road I always have a bigger tyre on the front to help slack it out a bit and slow the steering.

    To be frankly honest though, I think Kona did well in keeping the Honzo under wraps and have in my opinion stoeln the title from the N9 in having the 44ID HT able to take tapered forks. For me for sure it's a big plus for sure, as forks will tend to move to tapered steerer for anything over 100mm in the future - my thoughts at least.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sslos View Post
    LyNx & Lumbee1, it's been a really long time since I had a Karate Monkey ( about 7 years,) so take this with a grain of salt. I remember the KM being a bit slow steering, and difficult to get the front wheel up. The N9 has neither of these drawbacks. I don't think the rear is any less compliant, and being able to stick a 2.4 Ardent back there makes it more comfy. In my mind, no comparison.

    Los

  • 08-08-2011
    AOK
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    Got mine today
    No build pics yet... still collecting parts.
  • 08-08-2011
    Stevob
    These guys have the right type of sliding dropouts, with the divider in the middle. Less likely to deform.
  • 08-10-2011
    mellowme17
    can you get a 34th chain ring on this frame?
  • 08-10-2011
    osty
    I have run mine w/ a 33th ring as a SS w/ no clearence issues. For a 34th ring, you may need to use a very thin spacer along with the normal spacer for the BB cup on drive side
  • 08-10-2011
    noosa2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MyMilkExpired View Post
    You must be riding with your toes pointing way out. I don't understand how you're heels are getting locked up in the chain stays??? Seems like if anything you'd clip the skewer...


    I'm interested in this frame but I'm curious how wide the the frame is from the outside of one chainstay to the outside of the other as several people have mentioned their heals rubbing or catching their shoe on the chainstays. I have had lots of frames and never had this issue until I picked up a Knolly endorphin. The endorphin is 6 3/4" across at the point where my heals pass the chainstays and I get the occasional heal rub. My Jabbery on the other hand is 6" from chainstay to chainstay and I have tons of room.
  • 08-10-2011
    gte819s
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    34t SS blackspire is a bit tight. Running one BB spacer w/ cr on the inside. Photo is at a bit of an angle so it looks a touch closer than it is. Maybe 3-5mm?
  • 08-10-2011
    dubthang
    I get heel rub every once and awhile. It's not a big deal though. My feet aren't slamming into the stays. It's no worse than your forward foot rubbing the crank.