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    Broken Niner RIP9

    I don't huck or catch mutch air, but I am a farily large gentlemen. Riding along the trail today on my 6 month old RIP and ride over a good sized rock. As soon as the rear tire hits it, CRACK, seat tube shears in half. When I bought it, I had a hard time finding any RIP's that had broken, just wondering if this is a common failure or I'm just a MF'er on equipment.


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    stuff happens.

    niner will back it up I would assume.

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    Looks like a stress riser due to the welding of the shock bracket and derailleur hanger. Design flaw...maybe. Probably should go with a WFO for the next go around.

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    been on the same bike for 3 years and active on mtbr.... first i've ever seen like this.
    Me to my riding buddy, "Want to ride this afternoon?"
    Him, "I can't. I have to chop this guys foot off at 2".

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    I'm 215, at least, huckng mine around in SW Va and never seen anything like this or felt any flex that would give me any hint of something like that. What's with the top tube? Was it damaged in a crash as a result of the seat tube giving up or stressed by the failure? Looks like a sideways bend to me. I've thrashed the hell out of mine for 2 years. No problems. If it blows up, I will very likely get another RIP9.

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    Top tube must have buckled after seat tube sheared.

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    Wow! Never have seen anything like that ever! Sorry dude!

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    Looks pretty dangerous to have bike frames break on you like that.

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    Oh boy I'd be quite upset.. Hope your alright!! Mentally and physically
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    Hopefully Niner takes care of you.

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    Bad luck mate, sounds like you came off unscaved which is the only good thing. Hopefully niner comes to the party in a way yous are both happy.
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    Bash guard looks like its been doing its job. How big a boy(gentleman) are ya? Just curious... I hover around 225, and ride a Niner I bought second hand. Something like that wouls F my day up good. I hope you come to a resolution soon.

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    That sucks man. Hope it works out in your favor!

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    That happened a lot on the early RIP9s, but this is the first hydroformed one I have seen go.

    If you are a big guy it might be worth grapping the WFO as a replacement. The geo is almost the same (the diff on paper is due to different length forks). It is also less than 1lb heavier.

    That lb gives you more stiffness and large flexibility on what shock you mount.

    Swapping my custom tuned RP23 to a Manitou ISX was a HUGE change, the DB air also looks interesting.

    Since swapping my rip (with same issue) to the WFO I have been very happy.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    Ouch!

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    I'm 6'4" and 325 lbs. I fear I may have to upgrade to a WFO for strength's sake. I don't really want that much bike though. I'm going to talk to Niner and see if they have any advice on how to approach it.

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    that's just a fluke. Replacement frame from Niner should be coming your way. make sure you call or email them to see what can be done. Warranty on Aluminum is 2yrs.

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    So what do you guys think? What are the disadvantages of the WFO vs the RIP? Do you think the RIP will pedal better?
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    I guess another thing to consider is the fork. I only have a 120mm fork and I'm not buying a new one. I guess the WFO would just turn into RIP geometry with a 120mm fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch1413 View Post
    So what do you guys think? What are the disadvantages of the WFO vs the RIP? Do you think the RIP will pedal better?
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    Based on your dimensions and screen name, you my friend are a perfect candidate for a WooF-O. The RIP will be a bit lighter, but the WFO is a great pedalling bike. I actually prefer the WFO to my tallboyC for rocky technical climbing. I'm 6'4" and 205 and ride a L WFO FWIW....it's a lot of bike and will pretty much mow down anything in it's path.

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    325 lbs. and you need "that much bike," whether you want it or not.
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    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaking Down View Post
    Looks like a stress riser due to the welding of the shock bracket and derailleur hanger. Design flaw...maybe.
    Yeah, that welded derailleur hanger is a doosie.

    Why say anything if you're going to just pull something out of your ass?
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    325lb. That's Ventana semi custom territory with heavy gauge tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    325 lbs. and you need "that much bike," whether you want it or not.
    The major question I have is if the WFO seat tube is really any stronger. From pics I don't see any further gusseting, and the seat tube seems to be the same wall thickness. No reason to get a bigger bike if its not any stronger. I need to confirm with Niner that the WFO is stronger in the places that I need it to be stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch1413 View Post
    the seat tube seems to be the same wall thickness.
    Based on what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch1413 View Post
    I need to confirm with Niner that the WFO is stronger in the places that I need it to be stronger.
    Good call
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