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    I was just there 3 weeks ago... the Supercell held it's own.Breezer Supercell -Any thoughts?-crested-butte.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemke View Post
    I was just there 3 weeks ago... the Supercell held it's own.Click image for larger version. 

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    Anyone running a longer travel front fork? If so, how do you like it? I am thinking about upgrading the xfusion and I am considering going to a 140-150mm. Thinking that would get me a degree or two more head angle and make the steep down hills better. Any negatives to going this direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duneslider View Post
    Anyone running a longer travel front fork? If so, how do you like it? I am thinking about upgrading the xfusion and I am considering going to a 140-150mm. Thinking that would get me a degree or two more head angle and make the steep down hills better. Any negatives to going this direction?
    I've been thinking about going the same route. I don't think the Xfusion likes 240lbs beating the crud out of them on a repeated basis. I'd love to get some thoughts on this.

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    I was 238 pounds when I started out on my Breezer now I'm 198 and it does write a whole lot better.

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    Well, I am giving it a go to see. I am going to get a new rear shock too. So, we will see what happens. I don't totally need more travel up front but worth a try. Just need to find a good deal now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaneduane View Post
    I was 238 pounds when I started out on my Breezer now I'm 198 and it does write a whole lot better.

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    My weight was actually a big factor in me purchasing the bike. Most people said the Breezer was stout and the price sealed the deal. If I can loose 30 lbs all the better.

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    I thought about upgrading the suspension but the more weight I lost the better it got my goal is to be 180 again I suspect the bike will be just fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by debo75 View Post
    I've been thinking about going the same route. I don't think the Xfusion likes 240lbs beating the crud out of them on a repeated basis. I'd love to get some thoughts on this.
    I've been using this fork on a Breezer Lightning for over two years and I weigh about 260 all kitted up. I did put 15cc of fork oil into the air chamber to get a more progressive ride as well as lower the air pressure required. I run the fork with about 30% sag. I have been extremely happy with this fork and everyone who has ridden my bike have been impressed with it.
    Change begins by doing something different.

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    Subbed. Let us know how it rides. I was actually thinking of converting mine to 27.5. Geometry #ís are pretty much similar to Repack with the exception of chainstay. If 150mm or even 160mm fork works, I might keep it a 29er.

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    Has anyone adjusted the travel of their X-Fusion fork on the Expert model? The video below says all RL2 forks which include the Slide for the Expert can be adjusted up to 160mm. Let me know how it works for you.

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    I have the x-fusion fork on my expert and it only goes to 120 100 to 120

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    Yup. I just looked at the specs of this model and it has itís offering from 80 to 100 to 120 which means 120 is the max travel for this model.

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    Well looks like any suspension upgrades just got put on hold as I tacoíd my front wheel today. And recommendations for replacement wheels? Iím looking at WTB ASYM and DT Swiss EX 511.

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    I went with Stan's flow tubeless setup seems to work well on this bike really added to the handling and suspension qualities. These rims are 29mm and I'm running a Maxxis 2.5 wt
    Minion DHF and 2.4 minion DHR II WT.

    I really like the way it rides now. If I can get down to 180 lb I think this bike will be just fine. I also upgraded the brakes I have 180 rotors front and back with Zee brakes and the rotors are ice Tech. Major stopping power now.

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    I needed something on the quick and cheap so I picked up a set of Mavic Crossride UST Quest with tubless tires, sealant, and rim tape for $350. Not my first choice, but rated for someone my size, hubs were correct and cheaper than alot of the front wheels I was looking at.

    Also- has anyone looked into slacking their head angle? From what I researched on Cane Creek I don't think it's possible with the IS 42 top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debo75 View Post
    I've been thinking about going the same route. I don't think the Xfusion likes 240lbs beating the crud out of them on a repeated basis. I'd love to get some thoughts on this.
    I would probably look to get a better fork in the travel range the bike was designed for. If you're 240 lbs, then I would recommend something that has a way to adjust the volume in the air spring to make it more on the progressive side.

    There is a significant difference between an OK fork and an excellent fork. The Supercell is a trail bike. It's made to climb as well as descend. Increasing the travel could have an adverse effect on turning as well as climbing.

    My own personal experiences with going beyond the design criteria with regard to fork length/travel has not been overall positive in most cases, and just OK in others. If all you're going to do is descend steep hills, the Supercell was not the right choice in the first place. I think you would happier selling the Supercell and getting the right tool for the job rather than buying an expensive fork only to frankenbike the Supercell. The Supercell with a good fork is a good riding trail bike. I got to ride a Team Supercell for a couple months and liked it a lot.

    JMHO and YMMV.

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    Hanger?

    Anyone know where I can get a spare derailleur hanger for a Supercell?

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    So, I found a good deal on a DVO front fork and DVO rear shock. They should be significantly nicer than the xfusion stuff. The front fork comes set at 150mm but it can be adjusted to only be 120-130. So, I figure I will give it a go at the 150 just to see what it is like and if it messes things up I can drop it down to the stock travel. I really think just having a "nice" fork and shock will make a world of difference. The measurements I found for the DVO only put it about 1 inch longer than what I measure the xfusion to be.
    I am not really trying to turn this into a bike that it isn't but I also am curious if it will really negatively impact it. I already went to a super short stem and a riser bar with what I felt were excellent results. My shock and fork are both due for a service so what I save not doing the service helped offset the cost of the new stuff.

    I got a sweet deal on some shimano XT wheels and thus far I would say that was a huge upgrade. Its amazing how much flex was in the stock wheel set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbolser View Post
    Anyone know where I can get a spare derailleur hanger for a Supercell?
    I ordered mine through Performance Bike. The correct hanger for a Supercell is the DO28.

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    I put a deposit on 2015 Pro Supercell at PB, it's being shipped in. The only size they had was the 17. I'm 5 8" with 32 inseam 165lb. My current bike is a GT Backwoods HT Expert in a S/M basically 17. I don't have to take the bike, but the price is good. Will the 17 be ok or too small? There's not much difference between the 17 and 18 except for the top tube lenght. Total reach is about 1" difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marx68 View Post
    I put a deposit on 2015 Pro Supercell at PB, it's being shipped in. The only size they had was the 17. I'm 5 8" with 32 inseam 165lb. My current bike is a GT Backwoods HT Expert in a S/M basically 17. I don't have to take the bike, but the price is good. Will the 17 be ok or too small? There's not much difference between the 17 and 18 except for the top tube lenght. Total reach is about 1" difference.
    What kind of rider are you? If you're more of an all-mountain kind of guy, the medium frame will give a little more "room" for a dropper post. If you notice, the seat post has a kink in it, and the dropper can only go in that far. Make sense?

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    Almost 50 with back pain. Mostly ride CC trails with small climbs and small jumps. Only thing sorta mountain around here is Devou Park in Cov, Ky or Hueston Woods, Oxford Oh
    Looking for plush suspension to avoid those back stabbing jolts when I didn't stand at the right time. Not sure if I would bother with a dropper post.

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    I'm 5-8 with a 30-inch inseam I have the 18 inch bike the medium .and it's almost a little too big with my short arms and short legs I cannot get far enough back on it to manual. I kind of wish I had ordered the small this bike is kind of on the big side especially with the 29 inch wheels. The 17 should be just fine for you.

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    Sounds like it should work out then. I noticed others saying the small is more like most other mediums. Thanks for the info.
    Perhaps you could try a shorter stem?

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    Iím 5í8 and had the small (17). It feels and ride comfortably on it. If you look at the geometry #ís, it is similar to a medium size of other bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marx68 View Post
    Sounds like it should work out then. I noticed others saying the small is more like most other mediums. Thanks for the info.
    Perhaps you could try a shorter stem?
    I've got the shortest stem on there.

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    I used DNM dropper post cozí itís the only shortest (330mm) post with 100mm drop I could find. Replaced my crank arms with 170mm. My legs were kind of stretched if post is fully extended with a 175mm crankarms.

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    It came in to the shop this Saturday. I took my 17.5" HT in to compare. The SuperCell is a larger bike due to being a 29er. The reach was only .5" shorter on the 2015 SuperCell. It fits me fine. It's sweet looking in that battleship grey and black. The Pro spec is plenty for my skill level. So now I'm Jonesin to finish paying the layaway and go riding. Guess it doesn't matter since the trails right now are a mud pit. The agony of waiting!

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    I've been reading about the Fox Float 32 O/C on this Supercell. Not a lot of good reviews. Seems people have to upgrade it to FIT4 damper. Are they being too picky? Or will have to spend $200 for a FIT4 damper?
    The only FS bike I've rode is a 2017 Giant Trance 2 that had Fox 34 on it. I liked the bike and could have bought it for $1800 as a demo, but no $ at the time so I had to pass.

    The 2017 Supercell Pro has the Reba on it but it's $400 more. Most say that shock is just fine. Anyone here have an opinion of the Fox 32 Float O/C? I'm used to a RockShox Silver Recon Air. It works, nothing impressive.

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    I've had no problems with my Fox Float 32 CTD fork... does everything I need it to do on Texas trails, and it also did just fine on the downhill stuff in Crested Butte.

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    And you also have to take "reviews" with a grain of salt... they're just regurgitating stuff from pro riders that REALLY know their $hit. Most mortal riders won't even begin to come close to pushing the limits of their forks and shocks with their abilities.

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    Got it. Fox forks are meant to be fiddled with to suit the riders wishes. Had Fox on motocross bikes before. You could make them do whatever depending on the tuning.
    I just want a smooth ride to have fun and not bust my spine.
    I know the Suntour XCT, XCM, XCR are junk. My old 99 Marin Rocky Ridge with a Judy XC performs better. I have a Recon solo air on my HT that's ok. I would hope the Fox 32 Float is better considering the price.

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    Oh yeah, the Fox is head and shoulders above the RS Silver Recon solo air. You'll enjoy it...much better small bump compliance.

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    2015 Supercell Pro

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    Picked my bike up today. Sale Price $1850 - 15% extra off - minus 10% Team Points. $1682 with tax and $157 store credit. Not a bad deal.
    First thing I noticed is that the SLX shifters are smoother than standard Deore. Jumped it in my drive way on a 1ft ramp in Trail mode and it felt great. Switched to Descend and it was so soft like jumping into a pile of down pillows.

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    I finally got my DVO Diamond front and DVO Topaz rear on the bike and was down in Moab this weekend. I think I still need to do a little tweaking to get things dialed just right but I am very happy with the suspension. The diamond is set to 150mm in the front and while it did feel different when I first jumped on the bike, it didn't seem to negatively affect handling. I'm pretty happy with the setup and enjoyed the extra travel. I rode Captain Ahab and Slickrock and then some other playing around with the kids and everything was feeling great. I think it was a good improvement over the x-fusion stuff. If I had the higher end model with the fox stuff I probably wouldn't have felt I needed a change. The only complaint I have with the Fork is the tire clearance (I knew this going into it) I am running a 2.4 Goma and there is almost NO clearance at the top. I am going to have to drop down to a 2.3 tire next time around. The newer DVO Diamond design has more tire clearance but is also boost, so that would have required a new front wheel or adapters or something. I am sure I can find good 2.3" tires though.

    I would like to add a dropper post but that is proving to be problematic. I bought a KS and it was too long and after doing some looking I am not sure any dropper post will fit for me. The one that seems close is the rockshock reverb 100mm but I can't find great measurements on it. I guess I just have short legs or something.

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    ^^I used DNM dropper post. Thatís the shortest I could find and itís cheap. 330mm (as opposed to 340mm on reverb) with 100mm of travel (advertised as 110).

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    Super cell updated and now...

    Hey man


    I just finished building a 2016 trance 27.7

    trance frame
    rs lyrik @ 160mm
    rs monarch debonair rc3 plus
    works components 2 degree slacker headset
    wheel manufactures bb92 pf threaded bottom bracket
    velomine novatec 4n1 hubs with wtb i35 rims
    DH tires on both
    Brand X assend II dropper

    gave me about a 65 HA

    rides nice when going fast
    crummy when slow but who cares lol.

    The super cell has similar setup now

    160 fork
    27.5 wheels
    worked out perfect

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    If you guys move to 27.5 wheel set the BB is too low and you will get pedal strikes
    However...

    If you also install a 160mm fork with a 51mm offset

    It completely changes the bike into a super stable super fun trail beast.

    I also added a large volume spacer to the rear shock

    turned out it modernized the bike big time.

    I also went with a 50mm stem so it all worked out pretty darn good.

    If you do this make sure you get the 35 mm wide rims

    landing on those narrow rims is a death wish.

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    160mm rock shox lyrik with a 51mm offset

    but you also have to run 27.5 wheelset

    its super fun.

    oh and add a volume spacer to the rear shock

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    I run the super cell with a rs 160mm
    27.5 wheels
    large vol spacer

    this frame is way more burly than say a giant trance 27.5

    I am 200 and shedding on this for over a year now.

    zero issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by splash13 View Post
    ^^I used DNM dropper post. Thatís the shortest I could find and itís cheap. 330mm (as opposed to 340mm on reverb) with 100mm of travel (advertised as 110).
    I will have to take some measurements and see if it seems like that would work for me. Based on what you are saying though I think that might work. I have heard a few people say they liked their DNM droppers.

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    I finally installed a dropper on my SC... with an internal cable. Attached are pics if anyone is considering the task.Breezer Supercell -Any thoughts?-img_2018.jpgBreezer Supercell -Any thoughts?-img_2020.jpg
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    Ta-dah...Breezer Supercell -Any thoughts?-img_2022.jpg

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    Nice job on that dropper install. That opens up a lot more options than are still available in external routing.

    I'm still rocking my 14 supercell. I'm thinking about swapping to a 27.5+ setup here soon. Just have to convince myself to pull the trigger on the new wheels.

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    Update and list of upgrades on my '14 Supercell...
    1. Flow EX/ Hope Pro 4 hubs, built by yours truly.
    2. Fit 4 damper upgrade w/ E18 damper tune... holy shite!
    3. DPS EVOL shock... a lot more adjustability in open mode.
    4. 9point8 dropper post, setback head, 150mm travel... it actually fits!
    5. 1x conversion, RaceFace 32 t.CR (added washers to adjust chainline)
    6. Sunrace cassette (these shift way better than Shimano when they get dirty)
    7. Renthal bars and 90mm stem
    8. XT shifter and RD, converted left shifter into a dropper post lever.
    9. 203/180 brake rotors
    10. MRP and OneUp axles

    This bike just gets better with every upgrade I've done. I have never dropped a chain due to the M-Link rear suspension, and I never run my RD with the clutch, as I don't like the shift delay. I have become "one" with this bike and see no reason to upgrade any time soon. Now, if only Breezer would make a frame with a 66 degree head tube angle...

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    To those of you that converted to a 27.5 wheel set and 160mm fork, what is the resulting head tube angle and bottom bracket height? That may be my next foray.

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    I totally stole @lemke 's idea and picked up a dropper post. I had a tmarz dropper installed a couple years ago for a while but it was sloppy and the preset heights were a pain. I picked up a Tellis from Jenson and got it installed today. Same process, hole in the frame, internal routing, etc. This post works much smoother than the tmarz. Other than riding a couple circles in the yard I can't really comment on the performance yet. I used the 150mm post and it fit my xl frame fine. I'm not sure it work work on smaller frames.

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    Nice! Yeah, my 9Point8 dropper post is completely inserted into my seat post tube. The reason I chose a 9point8 is it has a setback saddle head, and the air cylinder is completely user rebuildable... they'll sell you any parts you need. Winning!

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