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    This ones a stelleon by Todd at Black Sheep.
    Very nice...
    Do you meant that Todd built the frame etc? I was under the impression that James was the welder, maybe even 'the bender'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Very nice...
    Do you meant that Todd built the frame etc? I was under the impression that James was the welder, maybe even 'the bender'.
    Good question. Todd was the only person I dealt with. He was the designer. I assume James welded it but I never actually asked.
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    This is the third frame that James has built for me.

    Set up with a fat front at the moment, but i might put a Reba on later.


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    A flock of sheep (and a burger) at the SSWC
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    i was there, i like the integrated handlebar and stem combi on rider 268's bike...i think it's Todd, sorry if i got the name wrong...

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    MM Bars

    Hi,
    I see many of you SSing on MM Bars. I like my MM bars but feel l might be too hefty for them - 110kgs. I am currently running them with rebas/maxle up front and realise the benifits would be highlighted more on a rigid bike. They are very forgiving and offer terrific trail dampening but with suspension fork (defeats the purpose somewhat) - am l pushing the bars / my luck? Running SS so need to get out of the saddle to climb and charge through the chunkier stuff. Also can you run them inverted (upside down) - for a lower front end (commuting for instance).
    Love your thought
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    be careful

    I had some older mountain moustach bars that broke, they were circa 2006-ish. Snapped in half! I was told that the wall thickness was undersized. I have some new ones that are much heavier. I like the shape of these bars but because of the riser bend I can't get the brakes inward enough. Jefe

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    My name is in the queue. 3 1/2-4 months James told me. All emails and phone calls were promptly answered. I must have taken a few hours of his time before I sent in my deposit. I am psyched!

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    Mine is supposed to be finished in time for me to pick it up around the first of Feb while I'm in Denver for work.

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    SSStu bars?

    excuse me singlespeedstu - may l ask what bars you are running on your new sheep. It is stunning by the way.
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    New Sheep on the way...

    I had the pleasure of meeting James in person this weekend and taking a look at his shop. My new frame was up on the jig and should be welded up soon. I can't wait to get it rolling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donmeredith74
    I had the pleasure of meeting James in person this weekend and taking a look at his shop. My new frame was up on the jig and should be welded up soon. I can't wait to get it rolling!
    Congratulations!

    The fleet behind is pretty amazing...

    When did you order the frame? I wonder about turn around time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnd663
    excuse me singlespeedstu - may l ask what bars you are running on your new sheep. It is stunning by the way.
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    It's a Salsa 11degree bar.

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    The lead time on my project isn't really a fair comparison since I've been slowly working on the project concept for awhile. I've definitely been the hold up. James has been responsive and great to work with on this project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Congratulations!

    The fleet behind is pretty amazing...

    When did you order the frame? I wonder about turn around time....

    Lead time with James has been very reasonable especially when you factor in the level of customization you can go with a given bike. (Should have one here shortly that is not on any radar screen) Added a pic of the front fork with a few components. Bars are going to be a custom bikepacking version with a hoop type design.

    BTW I like the looks of the frame. Post up when done.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm ")

    some day i'l be able to afford it

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    Last time I was at James' shop, his son came into the shop while we were there. My brother asked James' son if he was as into bikes as his dad. James' son said, "no one is as into bikes as my dad."

    It was pretty funny. I guess some of us are allowed to never grow up.

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    Black Sheep klunker FINISHED!

    Forgive the photos of the Black Sheep out of her element but I couldn't resist posting photos immediately after turning the last bolt. I have a few parts to swap out yet but the maiden ride was NICE!

    Beautiful work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by donmeredith74
    Forgive the photos of the Black Sheep out of her element but I couldn't resist posting photos immediately after turning the last bolt. I have a few parts to swap out yet but the maiden ride was NICE!
    Congrats! Really beautiful. Your excitement is contiguous...

    If I may; how do you like the bar? What sweep and length is it?
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    Nice!!!
    Hopefully now that you are done he will be onto my strutted Unicrown fork.
    Supposed to be with me by Christmas.
    Is that what your fork is Don??

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    Very, very nice. I like the "simplify" -- I hope it's at least a little bit tongue in cheek. I also appreciate the stealth of no logos on the down or top tube -- James actually let it out of the shop that way? Tempted to remove mine after seeing this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by donmeredith74
    Forgive the photos of the Black Sheep out of her element but I couldn't resist posting photos immediately after turning the last bolt. I have a few parts to swap out yet but the maiden ride was NICE!
    Looks great. Mine was suppose to be here Friday, but still looks the same with the fork hanging in the shop. Dang UPS failed to deliver. After speaking with James we are both hoping it shows up somewheres soon. Enjoy the ride as I know James makes great bikes.

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    just realized that I never posted the complete product. Built this up about a year ago and then had ankle surgery so she has been hanging in the garage for quite a while. She is finally back out on the trail and I am one happy kid


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    Climber999 - Its hard NOT to be excited, right? These are loaner bars from a buddy (mine are on the way). They're 28in & 15 degree sweep. I'm thinking about going with 26in but I'm waffling after riding the 28s. Less clearance in the woods here but oh so nice. Maybe I'm over-thinking what 2in can do. (someone's going to quote me on that)

    TR - My fork is more of a faith adapted to match the aesthetic of the frame (more hard angles / less swoopy).

    PeT - Yeah, James was really flexible on the graphics on the bike. He gets it...

    Crux - The wait is torture, isn't it?!

    J-Sims - the curves on that bike are just perfect. It was a tough decision to pass on that general style but I've had my mind set on a klunker style bike for awhile so I stuck with the plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donmeredith74
    Crux - The wait is torture, isn't it?!
    Especially when you have waited once already then to have the ride messed up by the shipper is no good.

    On a positive note the 6061 front axle I turned for the faith fork was a little thin and soft for my liking. Think that the next one will be out of 7075 making it a bit more solid. If the frame was here I would have most likely run on a questionable axle. Funny thing is that the 6061 fork inserts for a QR axle are quite a bit more stout than I would have anticipated. Oh well it gives me some added time out in the shop machining the parts.

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    Some new bling for the Sheep courtesy of my sponsor:


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    Beautiful Rigs

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    donmeredith74, that is one of the best looking rigs i've ever laid eyes on. be prepared to see a duplicate in ten years when I have student loans paid off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    Some new bling for the Sheep courtesy of my sponsor:

    Are you sponsored by a tatoo shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Are you sponsored by a tatoo shop?
    Koiled Imports who are the Aussie distributor for Blacksheep (among lots of other high end custom manufacturers).

    www.koiled.com.au

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    I’ve been in touch with a few people on this thread, promising them to post some images when my bike was complete...well, here it is...Definitely not a mountain bike, but it’s a sheep nonetheless...

    The geometry is cyclocross, with both the frame and fork sprinkled with various braze-ons to render it a city commuter or a light-tourer.

    ** Mounts for three bottle cages
    ** Bosses for racks and fenders
    ** Removable cable gear guides [not mounted in the current SS configuration]
    ** Internal brake cable routing on the top tube
    ** HACS for chain tensioning
    ** Two splitters on the seatstays to allow removing of the rear triangle for shipping in an S&S case; much lighter than couplers, looks better and way less expensive...very nifty...
    ** A kickstand plate with gear cable guide welded on
    ** PF30 BB; very light, very stiff, low Q-Factor
    ** 40c tire clearance

    Oh, ya, I succumbed to the temptation and went with a few curved tubes...

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    Yeah, that works... It's been many "check-out my new custom bike" posts ago that I stopped long enough to really soak in details and truly appreciate the art -- this bike is awesome!
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    Sweet!
    I believe that is the first Ti bike I have ever seen with a kickstand.
    I would ride that to and from the bar with impunity.

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    Thanks for the kind words, PeT and Enodmaniac...much obliged...

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    Very nice Climber999. Glad to see you have it in your hands! How's the ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donmeredith74
    Very nice Climber999. Glad to see you have it in your hands! How's the ride?
    Hey Don, thanks...and thanks for your help along the way...

    The ride is beyond my expectations:

    ** First and foremost, the fit is perfect. My saddle, WTB Devo, is quite short, yet James compensated for it in the design and flawlessly nailed my posture and reach.

    ** The 2” down tube (double-butted, by the way), in conjunction with a BB30 create a very stiff BB junction. There is an immediate power transfer; Just begs to get hammered and roll fast. Love it!

    ** The handling is outstanding; I have never had a bike so surefooted. No matter how low the speed is, it never falls into the twitchy side of the spectrum. The bike turns on the dime; sharp and clear. It is extremely maneuverable. During the big blizzard we got here, I toyed with the bike inside my house, riding through rooms; not once I needed to take my foot off...

    ** Finally, I was surprised by the low weight; 19.18# on the scale with a kickstand. Without the stand the bike should slim down to 18.5#; maybe even lower. I’m impressed.

    Cheers!!
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    Yes a very very nice bike. I like the restrained use of curves - it is extremely elegant.

    It annoys me at times how Black Sheep are sometimes seen as a pale imitation of a Jones. They are very different companies. Jones essentially does one or two designs very well and thats what you get (now mass produced in Asia). But if you look at the vast variety of bikes James and Todd do (just look at this thread) - all quite unique, beautifully conceived and specifically tailored to everyones individual needs I cant really see how they compare in approach.
    This bike is a great example of the Black Sheep philosophy - enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricone
    Yes a very very nice bike. I like the restrained use of curves - it is extremely elegant.

    It annoys me at times how Black Sheep are sometimes seen as a pale imitation of a Jones. They are very different companies. Jones essentially does one or two designs very well and thats what you get (now mass produced in Asia). But if you look at the vast variety of bikes James and Todd do (just look at this thread) - all quite unique, beautifully conceived and specifically tailored to everyones individual needs I cant really see how they compare in approach.
    This bike is a great example of the Black Sheep philosophy - enjoy!
    Thanks the compliments and for the wishes....

    I concur wholeheartedly with your characterization of my bike, and moreover with your comparison analysis of James and Jeff.

    I don’t want to come across harsh -- Jeff maybe as talented as James -- but as I said elsewhere, judging from their creations, James is a genius, whereas Jeff is merely gifted.
    A case in point, James invented a wonderful chain tensioning system (HACS, of course). Has Jeff introduced anything as remotely creative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donmeredith74
    I had the pleasure of meeting James in person this weekend and taking a look at his shop. My new frame was up on the jig and should be welded up soon. I can't wait to get it rolling!

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    Looks good. I think I'll watch this build. Keep up the progress reports.

    I guess I should of scrolled down some more. Nice looking bike you have there.

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    Climber - nice ride. What is it designed for though? I can't tell if it's the nicest bar-crawl bike ever built, a mountain bike with skinny tires, a flat-bar cyclo-crosser, etc...

    Also - why the BB7 cable pull brakes? I'm guessing you just like cable pull vs. hydraulic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    Climber - nice ride. What is it designed for though? I can't tell if it's the nicest bar-crawl bike ever built, a mountain bike with skinny tires, a flat-bar cyclo-crosser, etc...

    Also - why the BB7 cable pull brakes? I'm guessing you just like cable pull vs. hydraulic?
    Thanks Wiggs...It’s my pleasure to answer your question.

    In essence it is a cyclocross with a flat bar. It is my traveling bike, which I take with me overseas (if it’s not obvious, this bike can be taken apart and placed in an S&S case).
    The bike is meant to be ridden primarily in the city, hence the flat bar to keep me relatively tall for a good field of view.
    On my trips I take the bike off-road daily; not super technical terrain, but gravel and dirt roads. Thus, it has clearance for most cyclocross and trekking tires (up to 40c).

    I live not far from NYC and ride quite a lot in the city. This bike is perfect for that environment.
    I know many people are subscribed to the Fixie fashion – nothing wrong with it; a great concept and fun to pedal – but I prefer coasting and disk brakes for safety reasons.

    If I ever wound up my traveling, I would swap the flat cockpit with a dirt drop bar and run it as a cyclocross/adventure bike.
    That was the reason I requested James to fabricate for me a wiggly bar; it requires shorter stem (90mm), exactly the length I would need for the dirt drop bar route.

    Lastly, I preferred mechanical brakes for this set up for two reasons:

    1)
    They are simpler and easier to maintain, and I dare say more durable.
    Think a foreign country with little support from bicycle shops, where spare parts cannot be had and knowledge is limited.

    2)
    When I deconstruct the frame I prefer to disconnect the brakes from the levers (putting the calipers back on is more work; futzing with drags can be frustrating).
    That I can only do with mechanical brakes.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999



    I don’t want to come across harsh -- Jeff maybe as talented as James -- but as I said elsewhere, judging from their creations, James is a genius, whereas Jeff is merely gifted.
    A case in point, James invented a wonderful chain tensioning system (HACS, of course). Has Jeff introduced anything as remotely creative?

    http://www.speedgoat.com/News.aspx/Article/287 circa 2005

    http://speedgoat.com/blog.asp?o=1662

    You sure about that?
    What the EFF is "All MOUNTAIN"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    I am edified...

    Notwithstanding, two observations:

    1) Jeff has not incorporated that design into his production bikes.
    2) I am not sure the location of the telescopic system is optimal; I think you want good 30mm of straight tube, which is more difficult to attain toward the dropout.

    Furthermore, although I am duly chastened on the HACS, it was one gem out of many that James produces while Jeff has nothing of the like:

    Stems, including adjustable length one
    Seatposts with two different types of hardware
    A variety of handlebars
    3 types of forks (Yes, Jeff has a trussed one)
    One's frame can be furnished with removable cable guides and internal routing
    Of course, as mentioned about, with James the design options are limitless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Thanks Wiggs...It’s my pleasure to answer your question.

    In essence it is a cyclocross with a flat bar. It is my traveling bike, which I take with me overseas (if it’s not obvious, this bike can be taken apart and placed in an S&S case).
    The bike is meant to be ridden primarily in the city, hence the flat bar to keep me relatively tall for a good field of view.
    On my trips I take the bike off-road daily; not super technical terrain, but gravel and dirt roads. Thus, it has clearance for most cyclocross and trekking tires (up to 40c).

    I live not far from NYC and ride quite a lot in the city. This bike is perfect for that environment.
    I know many people are subscribed to the Fixie fashion – nothing wrong with it; a great concept and fun to pedal – but I prefer coasting and disk brakes for safety reasons.

    If I ever wound up my traveling, I would swap the flat cockpit with a dirt drop bar (Midge is my favorite).
    That was the reason I requested James to fabricate for me a wiggly bar; it requires shorter stem (90mm), exactly the length I would need if I ever went the midge route.

    Lastly, I preferred mechanical brakes for this set up for two reasons:

    1)
    They are simpler and easier to maintain, and I dare say more durable.
    Think a foreign country with little support from bicycle shops, where spare parts cannot be had and knowledge is limited.

    2)
    When I deconstruct the frame I prefer to disconnect the brakes from the levers (putting the calipers back on is more work; futzing with drags can be frustrating).
    That I can do only with mechanical brakes.

    Cheers.
    Oh, well then, that all makes perfect sense. At first I thought it was nuts, but it sounds like a cool setup for what you're doing. (not so sure about the kickstand...)

    Now I'm curious where you're traveling with it. I also wonder how many locks you need in NYC to keep it from disappearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    although I am duly chastened on the HACS, it was one gem out of many that James produces while Jeff has nothing of the like:
    I'm all about BS as James built my dream bike, but I don't see the need to throw Jones under the bus here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs
    I'm all about BS as James built my dream bike, but I don't see the need to throw Jones under the bus here.
    Far from it; Jones is very talented. He both designs and builds exceptional bikes.
    I was trying to counter an increasingly heard notion that James is imitating Jones, i.e., copying his ideas, e.t.c.

    By the way, your bike is a case in point; who else could have built you dream bike, but James?

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    Anyone see or can share steel or aluminum varieties of Black Sheep frames?
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    Best photos of BSs 2011 NAHBS bikes are where?

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    They've posted a few on their Facebook page.

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    The latest picture of my sheep.
    I've reverted back to a suss fork in place of a fatfront as i now have a fatbike and another fatfronted bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by singlespeedstu
    The latest picture of my sheep.
    I've reverted back to a suss fork in place of a fatfront as i now have a fatbike and another fatfronted bike.


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    Love that frame design. Classy looking yet subtle in its design.

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    Thought I would post up my Blacksheep on here as I did on the singlespeed thread. I love my Blacksheep. Also, I did fold the front fork one time a couple of years ago and called James and he sent me another one out very quickly. His response time was great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srappenel
    Thought I would post up my Blacksheep on here as I did on the singlespeed thread. I love my Blacksheep. Also, I did fold the front fork one time a couple of years ago and called James and he sent me another one out very quickly. His response time was great.
    Sheep of Steel, no?
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    oui! or wheeeeeeeeeee!!! steel is real....I love the way the bike rides.

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    If you have to ask then you can't afford it
    Well eats your words driver bob!! Might be a weebit late but better late den Never!!

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    After mths of waitin finally gets wat I wanted... hopefully the speedway rim arrive soon so I can set up!!





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    Quote Originally Posted by maman72 View Post
    Well eats your words driver bob!! Might be a weebit late but better late den Never!!
    Vengeance is most tasty when served cold...

    Congratulations!

    How long did you wait for the frameset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999 View Post
    Vengeance is most tasty when served cold...

    Congratulations!

    How long did you wait for the frameset?
    Hahaha...Tahnks bro. well waited for quite a while as they were bz wif their NAHMB and other commitment they have b4 my frame. Think abt 7-8 mths waited for "her". But worth the wait and can't wait to set up n ride!!
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    [QUOTE=maman72;8233103]Well eats your words driver bob!! Might be a weebit late but better late den Never!! [QUOTE]

    In this instance, with pleasure......

    Been looking (a lot) at Black Sheep this last week. Have to decide if I want to stay with Carbon or go custom Ti or Steel for the next ride.

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    That truss fork looks very interesting. Especially that a monster wide tire can be fitted!

    How does it feel, compared to a uni-crown steel fork? I've got the original fork that came with my Singular Swift.

    I know these are not cheap, but I'm wondering whether this might be a worthwhile upgrade.

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    Nice Luna Vista, mine should be coming in August. I will have the speedway fat front as well. love to see some built pics when you get them.

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    Here's mine

    Off the chart awesome frames and a builder who always took my call when I had questions/issues etc. First class bikes.
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    Omg

    That is a very impressive flock you have there

    well done

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    Do they have vertical compliance like a Jones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbbikerider View Post
    First class bikes.
    And yours might well be #1 of that class -- yowzers! I raced my almost 7 year-old BS bike last-night and for the first time wished it had some suspension. I wonder if I could get James to retro-fit a bike designed with rigid specific geometry to work like yours. If anyone could made the mods, it would be James...
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    My hardtail rigid bike definitely has built in compliance in all of the important places. Feels like a softtail when riding over stuff but stiff as heck in the BB/chain stay area when hammering on the pedals.

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    http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showprod...ith-fork&cat=7


    I have to part with my Luna vista.. so if you are looking for a wayward sheep without the wait here is your chance.
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    Keep on looking at your ad, just a little too rich for me but G/L with the sale.

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    Had fun with this tonight! Took a short pavement shakedown ride and still smiling.
    Feels great, much lighter than I expected it to feel.
    Front lifts fairly easily, back even more so.
    Hope to hit dirt tomorrow or the next day and take some daylight pics.
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    36er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikoli8 View Post
    36er?
    Yes, not very good pics after dark, but here it is on my self-hacked rack. Hope to post better tomorrow or next day after riding offroad. Drivetrain from HBC is gorgeous and smooth.
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    Lord have mercy that baby is ginormous. Rack looks good!

    Apparently you'll need comfortably wide lanes and to be extra careful to safely drive with it though, from this angle it looks like you'll be right on the line on both sides on a less than wide road! (I'm reminded of this by having just driven home tonight through a construction zone where they narrowed the lane enough to make me nervous without something widening my car by almost three feet...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimInSF View Post
    Lord have mercy that baby is ginormous. Rack looks good!

    Apparently you'll need comfortably wide lanes and to be extra careful to safely drive with it though, from this angle it looks like you'll be right on the line on both sides on a less than wide road! (I'm reminded of this by having just driven home tonight through a construction zone where they narrowed the lane enough to make me nervous without something widening my car by almost three feet...)
    I'm happy with the rack as it means I won't need to take the wheel off every time I want to go somewhere as most guys have to do. Now to find somewhere for it in the garage...

    The angle makes it look wider than it is. I tried to get a pic from the front but it was too dark to see it clearly. The mirrors are 88" wide and the bike is 83.5" tip to tail so I've got some wiggle room. The funniest thing is that it actually peeks over the top of the car by an inch (but if roof rails fit so will the bike).

    Can't wait to see pics of yours in another day or so?

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    Ah, excellent, and yep, mine should arrive tomorrow, detailed ride report & local pics to follow shortly.

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    1.5 years later

    Frame finally showed up this week after a long wait. UPS did not help matters much by loosing the first frame.

    Now only the bar and stem combo left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maman72 View Post
    Well eats your words driver bob!! Might be a weebit late but better late den Never!!
    So after a while I really didn't like the taste. Talked with bthor and we did a deal for his Luna Vista.

    At the present time she's winging her way up to me via the man in brown (please be careful with her....).

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    Finished last night, ridden to work this morning. Got to work out a creak from the headset/fork but otherwise she's a dreamboat. Seatpost is temporary, it was the only thing I had on hand which would fit.
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    Not an owner of a Sheep frame but working on it! I did break down and buy one of their laid back posts though w/ a Thompson clamp that I swapped out for the carbon craddles made by Smud and added ti hardware. None the less, you guys have some beautiful frames/bikes!

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    Oh, the lines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by driver bob View Post
    Finished last night, ridden to work this morning. Got to work out a creak from the headset/fork but otherwise she's a dreamboat. Seatpost is temporary, it was the only thing I had on hand which would fit.
    Spend the money and get a seatpost from James. You will not be sorry.
    Let the market decide!

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    i'll play

    here is my Sheep...
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    Australian Sheep?

    Wombat are you Australian? Well wombat are. Nice ST mate - have fun with that. More Sheeps in OZ is a good thing.

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    Finally it's ready!!

    Been mths of waiting and finally it's up for her maiden ride soon!! Thanks to Todd and James for making it happen for me to own 1 of the best bike builder frame!



















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    that is soooooo nice... mine should be finished up any day now and it will look very similar to that. I can't wait and am very jealous that you are riding yours.

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    What grips are those? Very slick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unicorn View Post
    that is soooooo nice... mine should be finished up any day now and it will look very similar to that. I can't wait and am very jealous that you are riding yours.
    Patiences bro.. will turn out a beauty for sure. I've wait for almost 7-8mths for all the parts to come in and almost another 1mth to wait for missing part to be send. But it's worth the wait I can tell u tat.
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    It portland design grip..
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    mbeardsl and climber999, could you tell me which BS bars you are running? They appear different than any of the versions on the BS website. They kind of look like the "scorcher" without the drop (or rise if flipped). They look like just what I'm looking for - wide, good ergonomics and no rise/drop. Thanks for any clarification you can offer.

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    First race last night on the Luna Vista and I won the SS cat with a 4 minute margin. Not bad for a ~20Km race !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wms View Post
    mbeardsl and climber999, could you tell me which BS bars you are running? They appear different than any of the versions on the BS website. They kind of look like the "scorcher" without the drop (or rise if flipped). They look like just what I'm looking for - wide, good ergonomics and no rise/drop. Thanks for any clarification you can offer.
    Yes, they could be called a flat scorcher I think. I told James I'd like a Mary bar with about half the sweep and straight grips for Ergons and a Rohloff shifter eventually, and what he gave me is perfect for everything I have ridden so far. The Mary bar on my 29er forces my hands to slide towards the stem on chunky terrain so I wanted something with similar leverage for climbing but much better descending handling. It is a wide bar at 785mm but great for climbing with such a large heavy wheel. I could go narrower if the wheel was half the weight and may trim slightly in the future for better clearance on tight trails.

    At some point I'll have James use this same design but had a loop on the front like the bar on the TD bike for more hand positions and moutning options for GPS, lights, camera, etc. Even some "horns" coming off the bend towards the stem like his Lonestar bar would be awesome, would give me a good position for gravel roads if the horns were a bit longer. Like anything with BS, ask for whatever you want and I'm sure they will be happy to make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorthewombat View Post
    here is my Sheep...
    Victorthewombat,

    Is that a two-niner? If it is it's a very large bike. How tall are you? I've got BS checking on a possible full squish build for me and I'm 6'6" 280 ish. Can't wait to hear back from them to see if they can fabricate what I'm looking for.

    Sweet ride by the way!

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    Thanks so much. No it is not a 29er, this a 26" wheel bike. I am 5-11 but with a longer inseam and short torso. This bike has a longer radically sloping top tube for extra standover - because some old school ideas work, but is only 17.5" c to c in the seat tube. Are you going for the 4" rear travel. I do not believe I could do that bike justice. Let us know how it works out.

    VTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorthewombat View Post
    Thanks so much. No it is not a 29er, this a 26" wheel bike. I am 5-11 but with a longer inseam and short torso. This bike has a longer radically sloping top tube for extra standover - because some old school ideas work, but is only 17.5" c to c in the seat tube. Are you going for the 4" rear travel. I do not believe I could do that bike justice. Let us know how it works out.

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    Should throw a flag for having a 26er in the 29er forum, but it's just too pretty.
    Let the market decide!

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    want one too, soon

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    give me one too:-)

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    Utabintarbo, Thanks and properly noted, if truth be told, I was looking for a different Black Sheep thread and stumbled onto this one. VTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by wms View Post
    mbeardsl and climber999, could you tell me which BS bars you are running? They appear different than any of the versions on the BS website. They kind of look like the "scorcher" without the drop (or rise if flipped). They look like just what I'm looking for - wide, good ergonomics and no rise/drop. Thanks for any clarification you can offer.
    In my conversations with James we refer to it as wiggly bar, since it has a wiggle which allow for a shorter stem (e.g., if I usually go with 110mm, with the wiggly I use 90mm). The shortest one he can make is 600mm (which i own). The sweep is around 17d. I L-O-V-E it.

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    Hey guys, Just figured I would throw this out whee I know alot of BS folks lurk.

    Selling my BS infinity post. Ordered it from BS about 3 months ago. I had it made with a Thompson clamp since a couple of my saddles have carbon rails on them.

    Its a 27.2 x 380 I had them make it a little longer as I was at the min insertion point on my 350 post but I knew a 400 would be too long. I will also include a SMUD carbon top craddle (looks just like the Thompson-also included-but made of carbon fiber).

    After dealing with a round of cramps over the past few weeks in my quads, I had to make some seat adjustments which resulted in going back to a straight post. I hate to see it sitting around not being used and would rather get some money out of it and buy a nicer straight post at this point.

    Black Sheep Infinity 27.2 x 380 - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

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