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    Bike check: Mine!

    A few years ago I convinced Devin Lenz to build a one-off park bike. In the ensuing three years I've ridden it primarily as just that--a park bike--at Whistler, Winter Park, and Keystone. But I've also self-shuttled with it at Teton Pass and (next week) Black Rock. And I've done umpteen epic tech rides in Utah (Grafton Mesa, The Red Route, Gooseberry, Barrels, The Whole Enchilada) and Colorado (too many to list). In other words, I haven't let the fact that it was designed for one use prevent me from enjoying it many different ways.

    Still, it shines first and foremost as a park bike. I'm in Whistler at the moment, and after three days in the park I haven't been able to find anything to further fine tune on it. It is more dialed, more a part of me when riding, than ever before.

    And it looks like this.

    LenzSport PBJ frame, size medium.
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    Dorado Pro, 175mm travel.
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    Swinger 6-way, 550# ti spring.
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    The 'brain' of the bike: DT 440 12 x 150 SS hub. 5 cog spread = 11 x 28.
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    Spokes are DT Comps, nips are DT Prolocks in alu, tires are WTB Dissents in 2.5, tubes are Bontrager race x lite 29", run at ~25psi.
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    Front hub is a stock DT Swiss 440 FR in 36h x 20mm. Same spokes/nips/tire/tube.

    ENVE DH bars cut to 29.5", Hayes Prime brakes (8"f, 7"r), a single SRAM X7 twister moving a basic X9 short cage rear der. Oury lock-ons.
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    Straitline stubby, ti hardware.
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    MRP Camber cranks in 170. MRP 32t ring. MRP S4 guide. Basic Shimano pedals.
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    Maxle. But of course.
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    WTB Aviator on a hacked short Syntace post.
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    Another overview.
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    Superman seat-grab view.
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    I'm too tired from endless beatings in the park to gush about this bike right now. The fact that it is invisible beneath me anymore speaks volumes about how capable it is. Lap after lap of A-Line/Crank-it-Up/Dirt Merchant/GX/Angry Pirate/Crabapple Hits/Joyride/Lower Canadian DH/Ninja Cougar/Karate Monkey/GLC (and on and on and on) and the only thing I need to do at the end of a day is lube the chain. Just dialed.

    * I'm using all of the available travel on every run, but I never clank, never even feel the bottom of either end. The fork rides high in the travel--dive has been dialed out. Super, incredibly, unbelievably supple on small stuff.
    * I've had two flats (one a front pinch, one mysterious with no apparent cause) in three years of riding this bike--which tells you how much I *love* the tires.
    * I can climb most XC trails with my chosen gearing, but I don't feel like I spin out when descending.

    Nitpicks? I'd like to see a Maxle-type axle on the fork. 5 bolts in 2 sizes to install or remove the wheel? C'mon Manitou--it's a brilliant fork but for that one oversight.

    I'd love to see some carbon (non-cold-transferring) lever blades on the brakes.

    Lastly, I'd like to see the seat pillar of the frame get a touch lower. *I* don't notice it when riding, ever, but anytime you hand the bike to a rider to demo they comment on how high it feels right off the bat. I think it's more of a perceived issue than actual problem, but it's also probably fixable with a little ingenuity, and I can't see how it'll hurt.

    Pretty minor stuff overall.

    What more can I tell ya?

    In a few days I'll have a vid that'll show why I'm so exhausted right now, but also what I'm on about. Such an amazing tool to have in the quiver.

    Don't hesitate if I missed anything...

    MC

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    very impressive !

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    That does look like fun.
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    Mike, why use the Hayes Prime Expert reservoir/lever mated to the Prime Pro caliper? Why not just use a complete set of one or the other?

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    Pedally deathmarch style rides in Pemberton this weekend but you're probably focused on the park right now I'd imagine
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    I thought you were running the WB forks after giving the Manitou a run?

    Otherwise I hate you.
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    Why not adjust your rear banjo down a bit? When you do more pedaling intensive rides, do you put a longer seatpost on there?

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    That's purdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12snap View Post
    Mike, why use the Hayes Prime Expert reservoir/lever mated to the Prime Pro caliper? Why not just use a complete set of one or the other?
    It's what I had available to put together a few months ago, so I did. Can't tell a difference either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Pedally deathmarch style rides in Pemberton this weekend but you're probably focused on the park right now I'd imagine
    I have this bike and no other along with. But I am listening...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    I thought you were running the WB forks after giving the Manitou a run?

    Otherwise I hate you.
    I have both. I like both. The Manitou was on the bike for the last month and I was most used to it when we arrived here. Plus, the upper mountain stuff (steeper, gnarlier, more friendly to a taller fork) is only open on weekends. So I just left the Dorado on there. No complaints this far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    Why not adjust your rear banjo down a bit? When you do more pedaling intensive rides, do you put a longer seatpost on there?
    Why not? Why?!

    And yes--longer post for XC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Why not? Why?!
    I don't like having my hydraulic hoses that exposed, is why. I guess since you don't ride in the dense MO woods where I ride you're not too worried about getting a hose ripped out of your caliper

    Can't wait for that video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Straitline stubby, ti hardware.
    Any reason for the Ti hardware? Had it laying around?
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    Are the rims the MTX 33's or...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Are the rims the MTX 33's or...?
    Hmm. Good eye. The profile doesn't really look like an MTX33 does it? MTXs have a pretty sharp transition and a slightly concave sidewall. Like so-

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    Are the cogs pinned together? Is it a steel hub shell? also where can I find a dissent.?
    Oh ya really cool bike.

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    Off the hook.... love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Hmm. Good eye. The profile doesn't really look like an MTX33 does it? MTXs have a pretty sharp transition and a slightly concave sidewall. Like so-

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    Well, there is that and the fact that Mike neglected to call out the name of the rim in his detailed description of the wheel build. Was he too tired and forgot, or was it some crafty psy-ops?
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    The bike looks awesome, but be prepared for a rude awakening when you stop by Black Rock...There wont be a ride to the top, unless you can pedal that thing.

    You should also consider Duthie Hill when you pass through Seattle.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    The bike looks awesome, but be prepared for a rude awakening when you stop by Black Rock...There wont be a ride to the top, unless you can pedal that thing.

    You should also consider Duthie Hill when you pass through Seattle.
    No ride needed--we're happy to self shuttle (i.e. pedal) and that's what we're planning to do.

    Any suggestions on whom we can bribe to get a day of sun (or at least less slippery wood) when we're there?

    Duthie is on our radar for sure.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    Any reason for the Ti hardware? Had it laying around?
    Non-corrosive. Kinda moist up here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Are the rims the MTX 33's or...?
    Nunya Rims. New brand for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixgeardan View Post
    Are the cogs pinned together? Is it a steel hub shell? also where can I find a dissent.?
    Oh ya really cool bike.
    No, no, and, uh, I don't know?

    And thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    No ride needed--we're happy to self shuttle (i.e. pedal) and that's what we're planning to do.
    It's a solid push to the top, probably a little steeper than I'd expect for a park of this type, but it's really not too bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Any suggestions on whom we can bribe to get a day of sun (or at least less slippery wood) when we're there?
    If I knew, I'd be bribing em too..It's not raining yet, but it's forecasted to start this week and through the next weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Duthie is on our radar for sure.
    Duthie is worth a stop for sure. It doesn't have nearly the elevation that Black Rock has, but it'd be a nice place to stop to stretch the legs on the way through from Whistler to Black Rock.

    The Colanade in Seattle is good little park too.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Have you ridden a 26" DH bike back to back with the PBJ?

    Has the bike been on any stunts or things where stability is second to fine control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    It's a solid push to the top, probably a little steeper than I'd expect for a park of this type, but it's really not too bad.
    Not remotely worried about it. A place like that? The push is always worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    If I knew, I'd be bribing em too..It's not raining yet, but it's forecasted to start this week and through the next weekend.
    Been raining here for ~4 days now. Never for long, but the trails are always greased and thus, so are our tires. You get used to that on dirt, but wood? Rock? Yeesh.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Duthie is worth a stop for sure. It doesn't have nearly the elevation that Black Rock has, but it'd be a nice place to stop to stretch the legs on the way through from Whistler to Black Rock.
    Given our schedule, it's gonna be one or the other. If you could only hit one, which wouldya?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    The Colanade in Seattle is good little park too.
    We've stopped there the last three times through--time for sumpin' new.

    Thanks for any advice,

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintPeelinPbody View Post
    Have you ridden a 26" DH bike back to back with the PBJ?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaintPeelinPbody View Post
    Has the bike been on any stunts or things where stability is second to fine control?
    Define 'stunts'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Given our schedule, it's gonna be one or the other. If you could only hit one, which wouldya?
    I'd give a slight nod to Black Rock, I think it'll keep you more interested for the day than Duthie will.

    But you can't go wrong with either.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Yes.
    Define 'stunts'?
    Like, built stuff, raised platforms and log rides.

    I don't doubt a full downhill 29er would be awesome for all-out speed and control, but I'm wondering more about the slow speed, technical stuff, where manipulating the bike is more important than just plowing through or over stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Yes.
    Define 'stunts'?
    Raised platforms, log rides, slow speed technical hairpins and things where your not using momentum. How's the bike in this environment? I'd be worried about the overall length of bike impacting that slow speed techy stuff.

    I ride a 29er, but its by no means anywhere near the geometry/travel of your bike.

    I've ridden 26" in DH format, and 29" full suspension bike, but never a slack gravity oriented 29er.

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    Mike, bike looks awsome for the park. The only thing I don't understand is your pedal choice. Last I remember you had mallets or something with a platform, why the change? Hard to pull off a superman when you're clipped in.

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    That is just awesome, lovely looking bike as always Mikesee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintPeelinPbody View Post
    Like, built stuff, raised platforms and log rides.

    I don't doubt a full downhill 29er would be awesome for all-out speed and control, but I'm wondering more about the slow speed, technical stuff, where manipulating the bike is more important than just plowing through or over stuff.
    In those situations I think rider skill and confidence make far more difference than wheel size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    Mike, bike looks awsome for the park. The only thing I don't understand is your pedal choice. Last I remember you had mallets or something with a platform, why the change? Hard to pull off a superman when you're clipped in.
    Mallets (and Candy's) nearly kilt me. I broke 9 Crank Brothers pedals last year, 5 of them over an ~8 day span in Whistler. One of them was brand new (first run down the hill) and no direct earth/pedal impact was made--I landed a small drop and the spindle sheared. Broke two ribs (two separate incidents) as a direct result of pedal failures.

    Kinda hard to have confidence in the product after all that, despite the fact that I'd ridden them tens of thousands of miles without issue in the previous ~8 years.

    No problems nor complaints with the size or performance of the Shimano set thus far.

    The only 'supermans' I've ever intentionally done were a result of inadvertently ripping out of a broken CB pedal...

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    I switched back to Shimano's for the same reason. Mine was due to premature wearing of the cleats and lack of a positive hold. Too many instances of me almost getting "kilt" from random un-clippin' while in the air trying to learn some stylzz. Shimano's are holdin true.

    Bike looks great Mike. Can you do a bike check on your other 5-6" rigs?

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    I'd give a slight nod to Black Rock, I think it'll keep you more interested for the day than Duthie will.

    But you can't go wrong with either.
    Merci beaucoup!

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    Yeah ShimanoFTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Mallets (and Candy's) nearly kilt me. I broke 9 Crank Brothers pedals last year, 5 of them over an ~8 day span in Whistler. One of them was brand new (first run down the hill) and no direct earth/pedal impact was made--I landed a small drop and the spindle sheared. Broke two ribs (two separate incidents) as a direct result of pedal failures.

    Kinda hard to have confidence in the product after all that, despite the fact that I'd ridden them tens of thousands of miles without issue in the previous ~8 years.

    No problems nor complaints with the size or performance of the Shimano set thus far.

    The only 'supermans' I've ever intentionally done were a result of inadvertently ripping out of a broken CB pedal...

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    Fair enough, but my comment was more geared towards running any XC pedal on a DH bike!
    To each their own, but the thought of riding techy, gnar on clipless pedals without any platform scares me sh*tless. The more I get used to flats, the more I wonder if I should ever go back to clipless. The ability to position your foot in multiple places on the pedal, depending on whether you're climbing, descending, cornering, has been a real eye opener for me in how the bike handles differently.

    There is a learning curve though, and I strongly recommend shin guards to minimize the self inflicted tatoos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    It's a solid push to the top, probably a little steeper than I'd expect for a park of this type, but it's really not too bad.
    Thanks again for the nudge in the direction of Blackrock. We only got an afternoon in there, but it was great to have our eyes opened to what's happening up there. I don't think I'd base an entire vacation around a BR trip (not coming from ~16 hours away) but I could see spending a day there once a month if I lived close by. So much creativity in the alt lines. Hope that it continues to get built/loved by the locals.

    And the climb was great for a DH bike. I might have walked ~75 yards on that steep just before the cliff drop, but the rest of it was easily rideable, right to the top of the race course, on both laps, with DH gearing.

    Cheers,

    MC

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Thanks again for the nudge in the direction of Blackrock. We only got an afternoon in there, but it was great to have our eyes opened to what's happening up there. I don't think I'd base an entire vacation around a BR trip (not coming from ~16 hours away) but I could see spending a day there once a month if I lived close by. So much creativity in the alt lines. Hope that it continues to get built/loved by the locals.

    And the climb was great for a DH bike. I might have walked ~75 yards on that steep just before the cliff drop, but the rest of it was easily rideable, right to the top of the race course, on both laps, with DH gearing.

    Cheers,

    MC
    Glad to hear that you liked it. Next time you drive through, put Sandy Ridge on your radar...And bring me a Lunchbox to check out too.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Any details on those rims? Width? Weight? Is Nunya a real brand or it it "nonya business"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermont29er View Post
    Any details on those rims? Width? Weight? Is Nunya a real brand or it it "nonya business"?
    Moot point--they're out of production.

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    Forgot to embed this here, where it's most appropriate.

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    Don't hesitate with qvestions.

    Cheers,

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    I can relate to 5:55.
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