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    Best All Mountain Hardtail 29er ?

    Hey Guys and Gals,
    I need some subjective advice I am looking to buy a 29er hardtail frame and would like one that I am not intending to race (but lightweight is always nice) but to take into all mountain territory, rocky and rooty or technical riding. I need one that has a wider rear tire clearance so I can fit a wider tire on the back. I previously had a Ninerbikes SIR9 and had alot of rear tire clearance issues with it (couldnt fit a Kenda Nevegal comfortably on it, it would fit but as soon as a wheel came out of true or I had some mud it was rubbing). Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
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    this exact thread exists if i'm not mistaken. i think the result was the yelli screamy. do a quick search it should pop up

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    Canfield Yelli Screamy or Nimble 9, Kona Honzo, Banshee Paradox, Transition Trans Am 29, Chromag 29er are all on here many times, and all seem to have great reviews. Read about these bikes, or just put them all in a hat and draw a winner.

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    Never owned one but Ragley Bikes look pretty damn cool too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinter View Post
    Never owned one but Ragley Bikes look pretty damn cool too.
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    Cough, they are eeeck .....26" tiddly wheeled thingys.

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    Yelli Screamy, There is not to much i haven't done on mine including many road miles,DJ,DH,XC and AM

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    Nible 9 is great for all kind of riding!

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    Kona Honzo, Canfield Yelli or N9, Transition TransAM 29er, Banshee Paradox, 2Souls Slim-Jim, Chromag Surface.

    Pick one and start building.
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    the one having the most fun

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    Canfield yelli!

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    Yeti BigTop

    Yeti BigTop, sturdy, strong, reliable, beautiful...
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    Trek Stache (120mm fork).

    See pictures and read more here: Stache

    Full spec here:
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    Good luck, Mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONE78 View Post
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    Nice bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo6500 View Post
    Trek Stache (120mm fork).



    Good luck, Mo.
    Lacks the uniqueness of the smaller brands, but it has most of the features one can desire.

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    aluminum or steel?

    all great choices. i plan to run a Trans Am 29 myself.
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    What? No love for the new kid from an old company?



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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    What? No love for the new kid from an old company?



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    Mason the red headed step child.

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    Canfield Yelli


    Kona Honzo


    DB Mason



    My perception
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    Sinister Simon Bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intheways View Post
    Sinister Simon Bar?
    No, Rocky. It's Simon Bar Sinister.

    Edit: Unless you are talking about all those Sinister forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurthang View Post
    Lacks the uniqueness of the smaller brands, but it has most of the features one can desire.

    hipster answer of the week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyRay View Post
    No, Rocky. It's Simon Bar Sinister.

    Edit: Unless you are talking about all those Sinister forks.
    Or unless he was referring to the Simon Bar, formerly (?) made by Sinister.



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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Canfield Yelli


    Kona Honzo


    DB Mason



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    That's funny +1. Although I might have to sell my Yelli now since I have this bad visual of Justin Timberlake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Or unless he was referring to the Simon Bar, formerly (?) made by Sinister.



    Image from this tread.
    Did sinister go under again? I was hoping they were still around

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    What? No love for the new kid from an old company?
    That pimped out show bike sure makes it look attractive. But all I see is a yelli with longer chainstays and odd graphics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intheways View Post
    Did sinister go under again? I was hoping they were still around
    I have no idea. I just haven't seen any chatter about a Simon Bar on here for years, and then it seemed as though they were kind of hard to come by. With the burgeoning interest in rowdy 29er hardtails, you'd think you'd see a couple. I was always kind of interested in the idea of owning my own little piece of mtb history and having a frame made by FTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Canfield Yelli


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    DB Mason



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    These guys did a review on the Mason, all good but I do wonder why it seems to be the first slack big travel HT 29er they have tried? The bike media moves slowly it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    That pimped out show bike sure makes it look attractive. But all I see is a yelli with longer chainstays and odd graphics.
    Oh no. Head angle. BB height. Other geo in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simpledesign View Post
    hipster answer of the week?
    OK, letīs say it like this: tapered headtube, 142X12 in the back, 15mm axle fork with 120mm, ISCG mount...Impressive. But come on, compare that frame to the Slim Jim, the Paradox, the Vassago Chupacabra for instance...the Trek is freaking dull and boring!!

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    Actually...if all you see is chain stay length...the Honzo and Taro outshine the Yelli easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dje562189 View Post
    Hey Guys and Gals,
    I need some subjective advice I am looking to buy a 29er hardtail frame and would like one that I am not intending to race (but lightweight is always nice) but to take into all mountain territory, rocky and rooty or technical riding. I need one that has a wider rear tire clearance so I can fit a wider tire on the back. I previously had a Ninerbikes SIR9 and had alot of rear tire clearance issues with it (couldnt fit a Kenda Nevegal comfortably on it, it would fit but as soon as a wheel came out of true or I had some mud it was rubbing). Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
    -Dave
    And letīs not forget the Vassago Chupacabra!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Actually...if all you see is chain stay length...the Honzo and Taro outshine the Yelli easily.

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    But can you put a big 2.35 Hans Dampf tire on the rear to cush the ride? Fits on the YS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    I have no idea. I just haven't seen any chatter about a Simon Bar on here for years, and then it seemed as though they were kind of hard to come by. With the burgeoning interest in rowdy 29er hardtails, you'd think you'd see a couple. I was always kind of interested in the idea of owning my own little piece of mtb history and having a frame made by FTW.

    You can still have a frame made by FTW - he's still welding and building frames! Just find him via the web, contact him and see what's up - and see where that leads you.

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    What makes a bike "All Mountain" bike? Are Hardtails considered better than "Full Suspension" bikes for AM riding?

    Does Carbon hold up as well as Aluminum? I sure like the lightness of carbon.

    Thanks,

    Hank

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Actually...if all you see is chain stay length...the Honzo and Taro outshine the Yelli easily.

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    I get it. You love diamond back. I did too. In 1985.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    I get it. You love diamond back. I did too. In 1985.
    Nope, not really. Just looks interesting. I haven't owned a DB in a couple decades either. Nice jab though.

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    Incidentally...why does giving props to the Honzo and Taro make me a DB Fanboi? I don't get the connection.

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    Another fan of the Yeti big top here. Go ride one if possible, you'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurthang View Post
    And letīs not forget the Vassago Chupacabra!
    71š Headtube angle? Thats not AM, thats XC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Incidentally...why does giving props to the Honzo and Taro make me a DB Fanboi? I don't get the connection.

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    I know. Just messing with you. Forgot the smiley.

    Its just weird how someone will ask which is the "best", and people bring up options that there's very little real world experience with. Best can mean 100 different things to 100 different people; so it's kind of silly to begin with. But if you define best as "most successful", or "has the biggest thread on mtbr", then there's one clear answer. Ha

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    Canfield Brothers Yelli Screamy.

    Pros:
    Light
    Strong
    Stiff
    Reasonable price
    Standover clearance
    CS Length
    Tapered HT
    Slack mammajamma. Canfield geo is in a league of it's own.
    Tons of colors, with a super durable anodized finish.
    Tire Clearance for real man tires. 2.3" or bigger no prob in the mud.
    Best customer service in the industry.

    Cons:
    No ISCG
    Some people prefer the ride of steel.

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    No ISCG is a big one for me. I want my next bike to be a 2spd Hammerschmidt SS rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshM View Post
    Canfield Brothers Yelli Screamy.

    Pros:
    Tire Clearance for real man tires. 2.3" or bigger no prob in the mud.
    That's assuming you're running a 1x crankset. That 2.3 tire will rub on a front derailleur cage, although how badly depends on the tire. My WTB Stout was tolerable. You also can't run a chainring bigger than 32t in the middle position, as the price paid for short chainstays and decent tire clearance.

    The Yelli really lends itself to a 1x or singlespeed application. I'll probably switch mine to a 1x drivetrain at some point down the road. It's a fun ride.
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    I run a 2x crankset with a front der. and an Ardent 2.4 on a Flow on my Yelli. I don't have tire/der. contact.

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    why all the DB hate

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    My YS is set up with 2X crank up front running 2.35 Dampf's on flows. No issues but I did take the Dremel to the FD to give a little extra clearence.

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    My setup might be more likely to experience rub since I'm using a wider rim (Stan's FR), but I definitely got some knob buzz on my Stout when the chain was on the granny ring. SLX direct mount FD. I'm currently riding a Panaracer CG XC 2.25 in the back, and like it a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsthegrizzly View Post
    why all the DB hate
    No haters here, the world of slack angled, short stayed 29er HT is to small to hate.
    The Yelli does tend to rock my world though.

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