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    Oops!!! Competitive Cyclist......good catch SS Hack^^^^^^

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    I'm sure some of you have moved on. Anyone planning on selling one. I'm in the market 18 or 19". PM me.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?-image.jpg
    Still riding the Sh!t out of mine and loving it! .....Fork, crank and frame (lol) are the only original parts left, did 35 miles today and have friends interested in the 2014 model.

    Anyone heard any updates on the next production run? Mid spring 2014 was the last update a few posts back.......
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    I found a small one locally for sale that looks like a good fit for my girlfriend. Does anyone have any experience with the long term quality or durability of these? Specifically the carbon fork is what im most concerned with.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Quote Originally Posted by newdee View Post
    I found a small one locally for sale that looks like a good fit for my girlfriend. Does anyone have any experience with the long term quality or durability of these? Specifically the carbon fork is what im most concerned with.
    Mine's been great. Fork is a Whiskey clone and they seem good. How was the bike ridden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Mine's been great. Fork is a Whiskey clone and they seem good. How was the bike ridden?
    Sounds like it was ridden for a year by a 5'5" girl and when i inquired about stem adjustment on a carbon fork it got the "always used a torque wrench" reply. Sounds like the real deal, but i'm still gritting my teeth because user feedback and reviews are few and far between.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Quote Originally Posted by newdee View Post
    Sounds like it was ridden for a year by a 5'5" girl and when i inquired about stem adjustment on a carbon fork it got the "always used a torque wrench" reply. Sounds like the real deal, but i'm still gritting my teeth because user feedback and reviews are few and far between.
    Well I never use a torque wrench on anything and mine is fine. I have brains enough to not over tighten. This is a solid bike with a 6+ pound frame; I doubt it got abused by a girl that size much. User reports are limited because few were made and they've been slow to make more. It's as good or better than anything in the price range. I prefer it to the KM I had for a year. Rides pretty stiff compared to my On One Inbred, about as stiff as the Monkey. Geo is forgiving and less endo probe (KM) than many if your girlfriend is inexperienced. You should put a set of Crests on as it comes with lead filled wheels and steel belted tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Well I never use a torque wrench on anything and mine is fine. I have brains enough to not over tighten. This is a solid bike with a 6+ pound frame; I doubt it got abused by a girl that size much. User reports are limited because few were made and they've been slow to make more. It's as good or better than anything in the price range. I prefer it to the KM I had for a year. Rides pretty stiff compared to my On One Inbred, about as stiff as the Monkey. Geo is forgiving and less endo probe (KM) than many if your girlfriend is inexperienced. You should put a set of Crests on as it comes with lead filled wheels and steel belted tires.
    Thanks SS, that's what i was thinking regarding the wheels. I would think those Nevegals on those wheels would make it quite sluggish.

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    Been riding mine for probably 18 months. Only thing OEM left is the frame and fork.... so cannot comment on the parts as I never used the stock stuff except for the saddle for a few months. Frame is upright moreso then a XC race bike but rides really well. I was coming off a FS 26'er and went to full rigid SS. Durability of the frame and fork seem great.

    I would say the ride is forgiving. My stumpjumper comp HT 29'er rides loads stiffer on the rear end with the same wheels and similar diameter tires.

    I always use a torque wrench also.... and also understand some folk's concerns.

    OEM wheels were probably 2200g.... and the tires I think I weighed at 900+ grams each. I went with 1500g wheels and 680g tires before even taking a test ride so I'm of no help there.

    The only think I can complain about is the paint. I have chips all of the place on the rear triagle and BB. It'll never be a weight weenie. I think mine is 23lbs and its got decent bits on there.

    I would buy it again, but would rather have just gotten the frame and fork seperate next time. The OEM spec on the bike was adequate.... and I should know myself better.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    I have a cheap set of Chargers on mine right now and they're not that light, but a good bomb proof match for the bike. I sometimes throw a set of Crests/Hope on when I want light. I also added a 70mm stem, AKA/Bling ring combo and Charge Spoon for fun and comfort. The bars and seat post are fine as is. Sliders work very well. Paint is crap, but Home Depot sells orange electrical tape that can help protect/hide problems. They really should make more, but with better wheels. Geo feels better to me than regular XC geo; uptight position helps my back. I've got less than $1,000 in mine total.

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    Agree. The Geo is spot on IMHO. I've not ridden a ton of 29'ers but this one feels super comfy and agree about the back-saving comment from SS Hack. I ride the exact same trail on my SJ Comp HT and my Civilian Luddite rigid and my back feels markedly better on the Luddite then the SJ even though the SJ has a Reba fork (I know, front fork should not = back comfort.... but it offers something).

    Strangely, I'm usually faster on probably 1/2 of sections on my ride on my SS then on my SJ. Where I'm faster on the SJ is areas where I can roll over rocks because of the fork or flatter straight-aways where gears win.
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    Similar experience to Hiroshima....I own a Stumpjumper EVO HT 29er and the Luditte rides more comfortably and seems faster in certain terrain.

    No issues with the carbon fork and I do not use a torque wrench, just pay attention not to over tighten.

    Paint is the only weak area I have found, orange electrical tape from Home Depot is a great paint saver! Great advice SS Hack.

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    Great bike! If you found one, just buy the thing. I'm ~200 lbs geared up and regularly hammer mine through the rocks with no ill effects. I've changed the tires and the seat in the 18 months I've owned it. I'm sure a wheel upgrade would be nice, but the boat anchors they spec it with are extremely resilient to any lack of technique you may or may not exhibit. Incredible bike. The paint chips, but that isn't a primary concern of mine. Incredibly fun bike. Just make sure the tires have air and go ride!

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    My fork hasn't had any problems, but it does scare me a bit because the entire thing is carbon including the steerer. I'm 235 lbs and hammer it through lots of rough stuff often.

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    Are you guys riding the 32:18 stock ratio or something different? I have a decent amount of flat stuff around me and that ratio is slow. I tried a 32:16 for a while also, that seems better for my terrain.

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    Wow some really great feedback! I think we're going to take a look at it this weekend. Seems like a stellar company to deal with. I sent an email last night to Civilian with a question about the headset and got a response in about an hour from Tyson Hart(big wig).

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    The young turk was my first 29er and I had a blast on that thing. My dad is looking to get his first 29er and I'd like to find him one. If anyone ever sees a L size for sale let me know. Otherwise hopefully Civilian puts out a new production run.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    My fork hasn't had any problems, but it does scare me a bit because the entire thing is carbon including the steerer. I'm 235 lbs and hammer it through lots of rough stuff often.
    I had it off the bike and it's scary light! Seems stout, but I weigh 165.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    Are you guys riding the 32:18 stock ratio or something different? I have a decent amount of flat stuff around me and that ratio is slow. I tried a 32:16 for a while also, that seems better for my terrain.
    I have settled on 32:19.....I can ride almost everything in my area of Nor Cal with this ratio.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Quote Originally Posted by borbntm View Post
    I have settled on 32:19.....I can ride almost everything in my area of Nor Cal with this ratio.
    I'm running 32x20 in the Bay Area, been thinking of trying a 19 to help on flats.

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    Check out Civilian's FB page. They posted a few shots from Sea Otter. Belt drive rigid Luddite and a 1x10 with a squishy fork on it. Next batch of bikes looks like a gold color with a few painted highlights a la the Le Roi line of CX bikes. If I wasn't so stupidly happy with my Mojito Green, I'd buy one of these new ones just to look at!

    Also, to whoever was worried about the carbon fork, I really wouldn't worry that much. This isn't a lightweight race bike. You're not gonna break it. It's not "fast" like a One9 or similar ilk, but it's tough as hell and ridiculously fun to hammer through stuff. It's also pretty easy to get it in the air (for a rigid).

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    You must have some hills over there in Nor Cal.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    You must have some hills over there in Nor Cal.
    Nothing but hills really. Some people run a 21t on some trails.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?-image.jpg
    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    You must have some hills over there in Nor Cal.
    Yes....Some big hills (and mountains) here in Nor Cal, this particular peak.....(Luditte on the right) is South Fork Mountain near Whiskeytown Ca at 3,442 feet in elevation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed390 View Post
    Great bike! If you found one, just buy the thing. I'm ~200 lbs geared up and regularly hammer mine through the rocks with no ill effects. I've changed the tires and the seat in the 18 months I've owned it. I'm sure a wheel upgrade would be nice, but the boat anchors they spec it with are extremely resilient to any lack of technique you may or may not exhibit. Incredible bike. The paint chips, but that isn't a primary concern of mine. Incredibly fun bike. Just make sure the tires have air and go ride!
    Pulled the trigger and made the mistake of riding it home. Now i want it!

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Quote Originally Posted by newdee View Post
    Pulled the trigger and made the mistake of riding it home. Now i want it!
    You'll need to get a new one when or if they have come out.

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    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    You'll need to get a new one when or if they have come out.
    I know. Its a small, and i'm roughly 5'10" and i didn't have an allen key to put the seat back up, so it was like riding a giant bmx, with a giant grin the whole way home.

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    Whats the consensus on weight with this bike? Bone stock with pedals it weighed 26.8 lbs. Seems high as i think i saw some people quoting 26.X lbs for large sizes? Tires and wheels gotta go. Im hoping we can get it down to under 23.

    This bike has a pretty high front end. Has anyone swapped out the risers to a big sweep bar or alt bar? Photos?

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Mine weighs 25 with almost everything stock except Charger wheels and 690/790 gram tires tubeless. I can make it almost 23 even when I throw on Crests with lighter tires. The frame is 6+ pounds, so it'll never be that light. I happen to love the high front and the low risers feel perfect to me.

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    I have had mine down to high 23/low 24 lb range but currently at 25.2 lbs with fatty 2.4 Conti. Mountain Kings rolling tubless on Stan's Arch EX wheelset. I am running a Niner Carbon flat top bar and an Easton carbon post at this weight (size large). I love the high front end with the 100mm rigid fork. Super comfortable and lots of fun to toss around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newdee View Post
    Whats the consensus on weight with this bike? Bone stock with pedals it weighed 26.8 lbs. Seems high as i think i saw some people quoting 26.X lbs for large sizes? Tires and wheels gotta go. Im hoping we can get it down to under 23.

    This bike has a pretty high front end. Has anyone swapped out the risers to a big sweep bar or alt bar? Photos?
    Mine is 23 even and I run tubes. Everything except frame, fork, and headset have been replaced. 1500g wheelset onboard. I could get to 22.3ish if I went tubeless. But I don't ride enough to make that worth it. To get to a solid 22 pound bike you will need to buy nice stuff. XO cranks and the like. No middle of the road stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    My quick take:
    - The deal on Competitive Cyclist was smoking while it lasted consdiering a lot of folks nabbed the whole bike for the same price as just the bare frame.
    - The new frameset looks like a better rear dropout design (looks like less potential for slipping)
    - Not buying the "up to a pound" lighter statement.... the thing is a tank then, it still is in the new design
    - I wonder about the paint durability based on the fact they are using the same factory
    - I doubt I would spend $600 for the frame,... I think my price point would be closer to $475-525 for the bare frame (no HS, seat clamp, fork)
    - New colors don't do anything for me... then again.... I like white bikes....
    - I like the abilty to run a belt as its always interested me...and not that there is anything in a name... but the Luddite now has a full tapered carbon fork, machined head tube, BB30 shell, carbon drive drivetrain... about the only thing not current tech is the tubeset. Not complaining, its just funny.

    Stellar bike. I am not sure I will ever have a reason to sell mine.... but price point jumped up a bit too high at which point I wouild probabliy just get a Niner SIR.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    It's interesting how far up market they're trying to go. I love mine, but this is a stiffer and heavier type frame and I don't think the special "founder's blend" steel will change that much. The frame still looks burly. My $150 On One is smother and lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    It's interesting how far up market they're trying to go. I love mine, but this is a stiffer and heavier type frame and I don't think the special "founder's blend" steel will change that much. The frame still looks burly. My $150 On One is smother and lighter.
    I agree. I also have an Inbred and there seems to be a pretty big contrast between the tubing. Although, its pretty hard to complain since we bought the Luddite for $400 and it was ridden about twice judging by the wear(or lack thereof) on the tires.

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    Just converted mine to 1x10
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    Has anyone put a drop bar on one of these? The high front end seems like it would work well for that like a Fargo.

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    If anyone still has the original truvativ GXP crank and bottom bracket, can you take a pic and post it of the drive side space between the chainring and the bottom bracket? I had mine apart and need to see what it should look like. For some reason I have about a 1/4" gap between the chainring and the BB now when I put it back together. Just want to make sure something is not messed up.

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    Is there any play in the cransket? I can check mine tonight but i have removed reinstalled the crank multiple times and dont remember a space that that looks like that. I think if you installed wrong you would have play unless you did something like put wave washer on wrong side.

    I am still really enjoying this bike and while almost sold at one point I am glad I kept and am looking to turn it into more a bikepacking rig. iahve had it setup SS, 1x9, 3x9, and should have some leftover 1x10 parts to throw on soon.
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    No, with the gap its got zero play. Which is why I took it apart to remove play. The pic would be helpful. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    If anyone still has the original truvativ GXP crank and bottom bracket, can you take a pic and post it of the drive side space between the chainring and the bottom bracket? I had mine apart and need to see what it should look like. For some reason I have about a 1/4" gap between the chainring and the BB now when I put it back together. Just want to make sure something is not messed up.
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    thanks that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    thanks that helps!
    Glad to help....Crappy I pad pics best I can do right now, tight schedule today.

    Anyone out there waiting for the new updated bike to ship??

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    Quote Originally Posted by borbntm View Post
    Just converted mine to 1x10
    I don't mean to dig up an old thead, but I'm looking at buying a young turk 29. It is basically this luditte with the 1X10. I've never ridden a bike with these type of dropouts. Do they ever loosen while riding?

    I ride in Moab and really rocky terrain a lot and in my head I picture all the little screws and things for the dropouts coming loose over all the rocks and square edges.. I've read a lot on the Trek Rig where they have issues with the dropouts all the time

    Has this been a problem with anyone? Should I be worried or am I just being paranoid?

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    You know what, I hate to say it, because I L O V E my Luddite, but I have had a few issues with the axle slipping. I contacted Civilian and they offered some ideas for reducing the problem and it seemed to help, but it makes me nervous to this day.

    That said, however, this is one of the most fun bikes I've ever had. I love riding it and find it comfortable, predictable and it just leaves me with a great big smile every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpringsRubicon View Post
    You know what, I hate to say it, because I L O V E my Luddite, but I have had a few issues with the axle slipping. I contacted Civilian and they offered some ideas for reducing the problem and it seemed to help, but it makes me nervous to this day.

    That said, however, this is one of the most fun bikes I've ever had. I love riding it and find it comfortable, predictable and it just leaves me with a great big smile every time.
    Thanks for the Honest feedback. It looks like such an awesome bike, I'm just worried a little with all the rocks I ride on and the slippage I've been reading about on this thread.
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    Still love mine too!! It is a fun bike! With the paint removed on the bolt side and the slider side.....No slippage and no worries! I'm running mine 1x10 and haven't touched the sliders in over a year. Just get the Allen bolt as tight as you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borbntm View Post
    Still love mine too!! It is a fun bike! With the paint removed on the bolt side and the slider side.....No slippage and no worries! I'm running mine 1x10 and haven't touched the sliders in over a year. Just get the Allen bolt as tight as you can.
    Mine is rock solid. What cage detailer is that? No guide right?

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    SS Hack - Running a short cage X9 / Race Face 32 tooth narrow/wide without a guide. No chain drops in 1,000 plus miles. I would go with a medium cage if I did it over again. No chance of converting the XT cassette to a 40 or 42 tooth big ring with a short cage.

    Currently rolling on Easton Haven carbon Wheel set, Niner carbon bar and Easton Haven carbon seat post Avid Elixer CR brakes also, sitting right at 23.7 lbs. Only original/stock items left are crankset, fork, headset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borbntm View Post
    SS Hack - Running a short cage X9 / Race Face 32 tooth narrow/wide without a guide. No chain drops in 1,000 plus miles. I would go with a medium cage if I did it over again. No chance of converting the XT cassette to a 40 or 42 tooth big ring with a short cage.

    Currently rolling on Easton Haven carbon Wheel set, Niner carbon bar and Easton Haven carbon seat post Avid Elixer CR brakes also, sitting right at 23.7 lbs. Only original/stock items left are crankset, fork, headset.

    Such a beautiful bike. Thanks for your thoughts. So, what I'm hearing is, there are slippage issues, but if you scrape the paint off and torque everything down super tight, i should be okay.
    I really think the bike is rad, so i want it, i just dont want to hassle with it all the time or get a surprise halfway through my ride.. maybe I should also mention i weight 195 lbs without gear and i tend to plow stuff instead of being light on the bike and plan on keeping it for a long time..
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    Thanks!.....The Luditte is a tank! Not a fragile bike in any way.....(except for maybe the paint) There is a slight learning curve adjusting the chain length if you are running it as a single speed but the key is to center the wheel and dial in the correct chain tension with the adjuster bolts. Lock the adjustor bolts into place with the lock nut and then (last) tighten the dropout/hanger bolts as tight as possible. My riding weight is 215/220 and I haven't had a problem with slippage since the first week that I started riding the bike.

    Hang out in the single speed threads, you will learn that there are a lot of manufacturers that use Sliders.......IMO Sliders seem to be preferred over an excentric bottom bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borbntm View Post
    Thanks!.....The Luditte is a tank! Not a fragile bike in any way.....(except for maybe the paint) There is a slight learning curve adjusting the chain length if you are running it as a single speed but the key is to center the wheel and dial in the correct chain tension with the adjuster bolts. Lock the adjustor bolts into place with the lock nut and then (last) tighten the dropout/hanger bolts as tight as possible. My riding weight is 215/220 and I haven't had a problem with slippage since the first week that I started riding the bike.

    Hang out in the single speed threads, you will learn that there are a lot of manufacturers that use Sliders.......IMO Sliders seem to be preferred over an excentric bottom bracket.
    Awesome. I will be running the 1x10. I'm too wussy to run ss..

    Could you hook a bike trailer to it as well? I've got a couple kids..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggilings View Post
    Awesome. I will be running the 1x10. I'm too wussy to run ss..

    Could you hook a bike trailer to it as well? I've got a couple kids..
    No worry about the sliders as they just be slammed forward. I pulled a trailer no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    No worry about the sliders as they just be slammed forward. I pulled a trailer no problem.
    Thanks for all the help everyone! If im running it geared, is there any reason i cant just removed the tensioner bolt and slam the dropouts all the forward, shortening the stays and be done with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggilings View Post
    Thanks for all the help everyone! If im running it geared, is there any reason i cant just removed the tensioner bolt and slam the dropouts all the forward, shortening the stays and be done with it?
    You could but will not have a lot of tire clearance, I run a 2.2 with them about an inch back seems good happy medium all around for quick handling and stability and mud clearance.

    You won't be disappointed with the bike really is great feeling frame. Oh as far as slipping blue Loctite you wont have issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEMIjer View Post
    You could but will not have a lot of tire clearance, I run a 2.2 with them about an inch back seems good happy medium all around for quick handling and stability and mud clearance.

    You won't be disappointed with the bike really is great feeling frame. Oh as far as slipping blue Loctite you wont have issues.
    I run mine with the sliders nearly all the way forward, and there's lots of room for mud, with a race king 2.2 on a blunt 35 rim, which is already huge(only a couple mm smaller than an x-king 2.4 on the front). The main issue is the height of tire maybe coming into contact with the seat stay bridge. As soon as it warms up i'm going to put an x-king 2.4 out back. i might have to slide it back slightly but it will definitely fit width wise.

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    ^ That is what I was looking for. I'm going to look at one in a few minutes and buy it if it fits. Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggilings View Post
    ^ That is what I was looking for. I'm going to look at one in a few minutes and buy it if it fits. Thanks again!
    How did you make out? I actually upp'd the rear tire to a 2.4 x-king. i cant believe it still fits with the sliders all the way forward on a blunt 35. I think this bike is a good candidate for 650b+.
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    Wow....That's a tight fit! .....Anyone try a 120 mm suspension fork out there yet?? I'm considering it.

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    Wow....That's a tight fit! .....Anyone try a 120 mm suspension fork out there yet?? I'm considering it.
    I've tried one and its perfect with a bit of sag. Doesn't change the geo at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newdee View Post
    How did you make out? I actually upp'd the rear tire to a 2.4 x-king. i cant believe it still fits with the sliders all the way forward on a blunt 35. I think this bike is a good candidate for 650b+.
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    Well, I bought it and have put about 60 miles on it. Some on pavement pulling the kids and a some riding in the mountains and I seriously love this bike! I came from a 150mm 26" so I was a little nervous, but it is so much fun! I forgot how fun a hard tail can be. I'm super happy with it!
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    Rolling on some new Maxxis Ardent 2.4 skinwalls.....
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    Anyone running a steel fork? I swapped a Kona P2 fork over to the Luddite. Me Likey. I think it might have to go back to ss mode. Aka, giant BMX mode.

    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?-img_20150421_180419.jpg

    Regarding the excessive use of headset spacers, i ordered the shorted top cap available for this headset in an effort to bring the front end down. If anyone cares, its part number H2051A.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Anyone out there still own and ride their Luddite? I am still beating the tar out of mine, recently swapped the rigid fork for a Fox Float 100mm. Only original parts remaining are the crankset, head set and seat post collar!

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    Rode mine last week. Still in single speed setup. Still fun. Just wish the frame wasn't 6lbs

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    Yup! Mine just finished the 40 mile Black Bear Rampage last week. Last place, SS class - The bike was fine, but I'm not what you would classify as an Elite rider. I've got a little over 2,000 miles on it and it's still going strong. Had a crack in the seat tube that had to be welded, but other than that, the bike is bullet proof and still tons of fun.

    Here's my favorite recent picture.

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    I still have mine none of my bikes are getting a lot of use due to injury right now but the luddite is still strong.

    It takes many forms. from SS, 1x10 geared rigid, to hardtail. Mainly gets used a winter training bike and for intervals on gravel. I am not sure of mileage on it but no doubt in the thousands. Most of the time it is geared rigid with original frame, fork, crankset, brake calipers, seatpost, collar, and stem.
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