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    Quote Originally Posted by Danner182 View Post
    The bike im buying is a white/green haze called marlite. It kinda looks white, maybe im just color blind.
    Which bike are you getting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    Which bike are you getting?
    Doesn't sound like the Luddite.

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    Yeah thats it, Mojito. I ordered the Luddite. On my computer, the pictures I have seen resemble more of a white bike than mint/green. That doesnt bother me, it actually seems like a pretty unique color. Maybe I'll get green pedals haha. My order finally shipped last night, and I should have it Friday. Once I get it assembled, I will take several pictures.

    Do any of you guys have any recent photos you could share?

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    There are quite a few already posted in this thread

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    Yeah I saw them. I was just wondering if there were any "Recent" photos just for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danner182 View Post
    Do any of you guys have any recent photos you could share?
    Ask and ye shall receive. About to go ride now but here are a few shots of mine in its current configuration. The changes are:

    Titec carbon flat tracker bar.
    Forte carbon seat post.

    Some cheapo specialized grips (waiting on some esi chunkies and didn't want to put the stock lock ons back on since my new grips won't be lock ons)

    Forte carbon water bottle holder (except for the stem spacers and dropouts nothing else on the bike is aluminum,why should the water bottle holder be?)

    Shimano DX peddles (heavy as hell but I needed a dual platform peddle because I justified the bike to my wife by telling her I needed it for family neighborhood bike rides.)

    KMC X8.99 chain
    Chris King 18 tooth cog

    DT Swiss 450sl wheels with a 240s single speed hub and 36 poe upgrade and RWS thru bolts off my stumpjumper (they are only about 400 grams lighter than the stock wheels. I found some Sun Ringle Black Flag Experts for $300 which weigh about the same as the 450sl wheels. I am going to see if this is enough weight loss or if I need to spend a little extra on some Stan's Arch ex wheels.)

    2.2 s-works purgatory front. 2.0 s-works captain rear.

    Only things I bought were the bars, seat post and water bottle holder. Everything else was out of my parts bin.

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    Zakman: looking good. Where did you get the Sun wheel set and how much does it weigh? I have a Burner Orange on order and can't wait to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Zakman: looking good. Where did you get the Sun wheel set and how much does it weigh? I have a Burner Orange on order and can't wait to get it.
    I didn't buy it yet. I want to ride the Luddite with my stumpy's wheels first to see if ~1 lbs weight loss is good enough or if I should spend about $200 more and go for a closer to 2 lbs loss. The sun wheels are on sale at Jenson USA for $299.99 (use coupon code 25off200 for another $25 off). They only have the 15/20 mm front hub available. Sun Ringle says you can get an adapter for 9mm qr but you have to order it through a LBS. It is part number ED2FCAPQR. I can't find it anywhere on the Internet. The black flag experts have weights on the Internet ranging from 1830 grams to 1890. The black flag experts would actually probably be closer to a 1.5 lbs weight loss.

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    i bought a sun ringle conversion axle for a different bike, and had the same issue...basically it was either order from an LBS or from a UK website (chain reaction had it at the time, and i was already ordering a hub from them so i added it, otherwise the LBS is prob the best route)

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    Looking good Zakman! I cant wait to get mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danner182 View Post
    Looking good Zakman! I cant wait to get mine.
    Thanks. The color is greener then some of the pictures on the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    i bought a sun ringle conversion axle for a different bike, and had the same issue...basically it was either order from an LBS or from a UK website (chain reaction had it at the time, and i was already ordering a hub from them so i added it, otherwise the LBS is prob the best route)
    Once you got the part, did it work fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    I didn't buy it yet. I want to ride the Luddite with my stumpy's wheels first to see if ~1 lbs weight loss is good enough or if I should spend about $200 more and go for a closer to 2 lbs loss. The sun wheels are on sale at Jenson USA for $299.99 (use coupon code 25off200 for another $25 off). They only have the 15/20 mm front hub available. Sun Ringle says you can get an adapter for 9mm qr but you have to order it through a LBS. It is part number ED2FCAPQR. I can't find it anywhere on the Internet. The black flag experts have weights on the Internet ranging from 1830 grams to 1890. The black flag experts would actually probably be closer to a 1.5 lbs weight loss.
    That's a good deal, but maybe not enough weight savings compared to the Stan's. The stock wheels are a little less than 2000 grams per set. The tires and tubes are the "low hanging fruit" on this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    Once you got the part, did it work fine?
    yeah, works great on the rear...this is what i ordered, so not what you are looking at

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    That's a good deal, but maybe not enough weight savings compared to the Stan's. The stock wheels are a little less than 2000 grams per set. The tires and tubes are the "low hanging fruit" on this bike.
    I think the stock wheels are more like 2400 grams. I didn't weigh the wheels by themselves but I did weigh them without the skewers after I set them up tubeless with new tires. The weights i have written down for the wheels with everything on them is 2279 rear and 2077 for the front. I subtracted the known weights of my tires, sealant, valve stems, rotors, cog, lock ring and estimated for the spacers. For some reason I didn't write down the post math weight for each individual wheel but I wrote down the set as being 2400 grams and I remember rounding down 20-30 grams.

    REI has the weights of the 26er version of wheels similar to these listed as 1225 rear and 1010 front.

    The Speed TCS wheels on WTB's website are not the same wheels. I couldn't even find the exact rims on the site.

    I think I decided to go with the Stan's anyway. The Black Flag Experts would be at least a 500 gram weight savings but the Stan's would be about another 200 grams on top of that for about $200 more.

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    Zakman: that does sound heavy. I set up my wife's Young Turk, but didn't weigh them on their own either. I'll weigh everything when I get the Luddite. What model are the rotors? I'll find the weight and subtract.

    The Stan's can be had for 438 from outside outfitters if you look. I may upgrade the wheels after all if they're really that heavy.

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    Avid HS1 180 mm front, 160 rear. I think I found a weight of 93g for the 160 and rounded up to 100. Don't think I found a weight for the 180 but I think I used 130g.

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    Bike is looking good Zakman!
    I picked up my carbon bar today and my Thomson stem should be here this week. I'll put some pics up when I get it together.
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    anyone running really big tires on one of these? after a longer and more technical ride today i'm thinking i'll go with something like maxxis ardent 2.4s when these x-kings go, but not sure i have the clearance in the rear (front seems like it'd be fine). i suppose i could always go 2.25 in the rear w/2.4 up front, though.

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    I have 2.35 Nobby Nics front and rear...they clear, but I dont remember off the top of my head how much fatter i could go

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    Clearance looks great with a 2.2 slammed all the way forward on the Turk.

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    Ordered mine last night, a large in Burner Orange. Can't wait to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan_msu View Post
    Ordered mine last night, a large in Burner Orange. Can't wait to get it.
    Burner Orange is coming on Monday for me!

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    Ordered a large burner orange after lots of research.....looks like the best deal out there for what you get, only 16 left according to the Huck & Roll counter for this size and color!

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    Whoever gets your Burner Orange first; can you post some pics of the fork? I would like to see some close ups of the matte black.

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    I'd bet that Paragon Machine dropouts would fit in that frame. Worth a try.

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    Orange Civilian Luddite delivered today

    Someone was asking for pictures of the orange frame. It's a very standard orange - not burnt, not neon. The "Civilian" logo is dark blue, and kind of matches the grips. The saluting icon is black, as is the "Hart designed" logo on the seat tube. Very, very nice looking bike. The carbon fork looks great in matte.

    As everyone has said, the build quality seems pretty great. This is the first bike that I've bought in a number of years, so I'm not the best to judge.

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    Just got the orange today too, but haven't put it together yet. Looks very nice, but the color is different then I thought. It is also more of a mat or semi mat finish which is different. Fork is pretty nice i might add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugbomb0605 View Post
    Someone was asking for pictures of the orange frame. It's a very standard orange - not burnt, not neon. The "Civilian" logo is dark blue, and kind of matches the grips. The saluting icon is black, as is the "Hart designed" logo on the seat tube. Very, very nice looking bike. The carbon fork looks great in matte.

    As everyone has said, the build quality seems pretty great. This is the first bike that I've bought in a number of years, so I'm not the best to judge.

    Sorry for the crummy cell phone photo quality.
    Looks like a great bike! What size is it? Mine is on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borbntm View Post
    Looks like a great bike! What size is it? Mine is on the way.
    I ordered a medium. I may swap out the stem for a longer one, but I have short legs and a long torso (5'11"). Inaugural ride this morning. Pretty sweet ride! The rigid fork is going to rattle me to pieces in our local rock garden .

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    Well, I ordered my bike on Friday the 7/6, and I still have not received it yet. UPS delivered to wrong address last week, and I still have yet to receive it. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danner182 View Post
    Well, I ordered my bike on Friday the 7/6, and I still have not received it yet. UPS delivered to wrong address last week, and I still have yet to receive it. Cheers!
    Yeah, there was some minor confusion with mine. Ordered from backcountry.com on Sunday night around midnight. The guy I ordered from said it would ship Monday. I finally called Wednesday evening to check, and this next guy explained that the bike had to be built. It finally shipped out Thursday morning and arrived Monday afternoon. Not bad.

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    Its a monumental cluster Fudge. The bike went to an Amazon Distribution center about 5 miles from my house. I guess the UPS driver figured it was in the same town so it was close enough.I never signed for it. Anyways, Amazon cannot locate the package (I know people who work there) nor can UPS get a hold of amazon. The contact number goes straight to voicemail with all the other hundreds of calls a day.

    Really good chance I will not see this bike. I wonder if i can cancel my order with backcountry?

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    contact backcountry, they can claim it as lost/stolen and get a lot further with ups as the shipper than you can

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    contact , they can claim it as lost/stolen and get a lot further with ups as the shipper than you can
    Agreed. Their customer service is very good.

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    if you buy through dept of goods right now its 20% off with 6AS-1-UGL9A

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    Backcountry is going to expedite a new bike to me free of charge. I will have it by end of day tomorrow god willing. Seriously, some of the best customer service I have received. They think its BS that I have waited this long. UPS told them I'd have it in 3 to 4 days, and they said Forget it!

    Props to Backcountry!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    if you buy through dept of goods right now its 20% off with 6AS-1-UGL9A
    I got a 15% coupon code from Huck n Roll the day after I ordered mine. I went through the checkout to see if it would work. Looks like those codes won't work since the bike is technically already 25% off. No stacking, apparently.

    That's awesome that backcountry.com is taking care of you! I expected nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugbomb0605 View Post
    I got a 15% coupon code from Huck n Roll the day after I ordered mine. I went through the checkout to see if it would work. Looks like those codes won't work since the bike is technically already 25% off. No stacking, apparently.

    That's awesome that backcountry.com is taking care of you! I expected nothing less.
    this one works, i think its actually 40% off of the original price, which works out to 20% off the sale price, about $630 shipped economy

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    This is a screaming deal! Is the build the same?

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    Yep

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    Is department of goods owned by the same parent company?

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    Yeah

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    Squeaky wheel gets the grease. I called. They matched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    Squeaky wheel gets the grease. I called. They matched.
    I'm definitely following up to see if they'll match retroactively. Theoretically, I don't see why they wouldn't - they have an unlimited return policy, so nothing stopping me from returning it and buying it from departmentofgoods.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    Squeaky wheel gets the grease. I called. They matched.
    Ok, I was thinking of doing that too. They matched the price with coupon code too, Zakman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Ok, I was thinking of doing that too. They matched the price with coupon code too, Zakman?
    or you can save the hassle and order from dept of goods, its all the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    or you can save the hassle and order from dept of goods, its all the same
    I just got the bike yesterday, so I was thinking of hitting Backcountry up for a little something back ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Ok, I was thinking of doing that too. They matched the price with coupon code too, Zakman?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    or you can save the hassle and order from dept of goods, its all the same
    There is a difference in the return policy. Huck n roll and Competitive Cyclist are 60 days. Department of Goods is 30 days and I think Backcountry is 100 days.

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    I just ordered an XL in mojito. My wife is gonna kill me...but I couldn't pass up $1,049 marked down to $629! Besides, she was just complaining about my old POS bike that keeps breaking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    There is a difference in the return policy. Huck n roll and Competitive Cyclist are 60 days. Department of Goods is 30 days and I think Backcountry is 100 days.
    Backcountry is forever now, no limit.

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    hucknroll said they would price match my purchase. I don't know if that is because it hasn't shipped yet or not. Wonder if they will take away the jersey though, lol!

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    I just live chatted myself a discount on the previously purchased Luddite and Young Turk. Backcountry rocks!

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    nice code!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    I just live chatted myself a discount on the previously purchased Luddite and Young Turk. Backcountry rocks!
    did you get both a couple days ago? i got my luddite about 3 weeks ago, cant imagine itd work but i might try...whatd you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    did you get both a couple days ago? i got my luddite about 3 weeks ago, cant imagine itd work but i might try...whatd you say?
    Both arrived less than a week ago. You might check, you never know. I just told them that I'd rather have bought through Dept of Goods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    did you get both a couple days ago? i got my luddite about 3 weeks ago, cant imagine itd work but i might try...whatd you say?
    I got mine about 3 weeks ago and they price matched. I called and told them with the coupon code on dept of goods it is $629.40. I asked if they would be willing to price match. He asked for the code so I am sure they checked it out. I got put on hold. He came back and told me they would refund the difference to my card.

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    damn, will give this a try later

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    At the new price and assuming you could sell the stock wheels for like $100, you can buy some Stan's and have a pretty solid bike for under a grand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    damn, will give this a try later
    I got a little push back at first ... but once they asked whomever they needed (boss), all was good. I promised to give them some good reviews and said everyone else on MTBR was getting a refund.

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    lol...they are going to be mad at us.

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    I just called they are refunding me my money. Backcountry is awesome!

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    After doing some calculating I got my Luddite for $582.00. I used bill me later and got another 6% cash back which was $47. So with that and the promo code I felt I did good! GO BACKCOUNTRY!

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    I'm thinking about the Luddite to mix things up from riding road/triathlons. I'd also like to do a few races, would the Luddite be suitable for midwest racing?

    I don't see where to input the discount code on Department of Goods. Did they remove it or am I missing something? Edit- found the spot under payment options to click.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86Sierra View Post
    I'm thinking about the Luddite to mix things up from riding road/triathlons. I'd also like to do a few races, would the Luddite be suitable for midwest racing?

    I don't see where to input the discount code on Department of Goods. Did they remove it or am I missing something? Edit- found the spot under payment options to click.
    You have to proceed to checkout and it below where you put in your address and above where you put in your payment information.

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    I didnt have to put the code in for dept of goods they took it off automatically. Super exicted about this will be awhile with other training I got going on before i have time to tweak everything but at that price too good to pass up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua_B View Post
    After doing some calculating I got my Luddite for $582.00. I used bill me later and got another 6% cash back which was $47. So with that and the promo code I felt I did good! GO BACKCOUNTRY!
    How'd that one work? I'm happy with $630, but curious. LBS wants more than $1000 for a Karaoke Monkey with a steel fork, so this is a screaming deal.

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    fatwallet does cashback on various sites

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    It wont work now, the bill me later 6% option is no longer in effect.

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    what's the feedback been on sizing for someone around 5'10", go medium or large?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan G. View Post
    what's the feedback been on sizing for someone around 5'10", go medium or large?
    I'm around that height, but have fairly short legs (30" inseam) and went with the medium. I like my bikes on the smaller side of normal however.

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    Your local in Bay Area, right? How are you liking it?

    I too have a short inseam so medium might be best. Plus it is more flickable or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan G. View Post
    Your local in Bay Area, right? How are you liking it?

    I too have a short inseam so medium might be best. Plus it is more flickable or something.
    Yes, I'm in the bay area. I haven't gotten a good ride in yet, so I'll pass judgement later. But the bike seems well made and built. I'm gearing it down and putting new tires on and will get it on the trail this Friday and report back.

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    Two notes:

    1. Backcountry.com made good. They honored the departmentofgoods.com coupon code and refunded me the difference. I paid $629 for the bike. Pretty sick.

    2. I'm happy enough with the bike, and especially at that price, that I ordered another one for my wife in size small.

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    Couple questions regarding this bike and since I am new too single speeding.

    1. I also want to be able to throw a 20T in the back, does it come with 1/8 or 3/32s? Do I need a new chain to run a 20T in rear as well.

    2. I am guessing I will slam the stem, since all carbon guessing I need to cut down. Has anyone cut down the steerer yet? Or is anyone running hte spacers above the stem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEMIjer View Post
    Couple questions regarding this bike and since I am new too single speeding.

    1. I also want to be able to throw a 20T in the back, does it come with 1/8 or 3/32s? Do I need a new chain to run a 20T in rear as well.

    2. I am guessing I will slam the stem, since all carbon guessing I need to cut down. Has anyone cut down the steerer yet? Or is anyone running hte spacers above the stem.
    1. I just put a 21t on and I feel it's a hair tight, so I'm going to put on a SRAM 8 speed chain. 20t would be fine.

    2. I may run a spacer above, no cutting for me.

    Edit: the chain and cogs are 3/32. The chain is rather heavy at 350 grams, my new chain cut down is only 260 grams.

    Also I think the wheelset is in the 2,300 gram range after all.
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    Got mine together today, will ride tomorrow hopefully. All stock except for the Geax AKA in the back, Kenda Slant Six up front, Charge Spoon seat, Surly cog and SRAM PC 870 chain. Anybody happen to weigh the seat post and/or bars? The Cutter seat weighs 278 grams. The went together well; of course the Avid CPS bolts needed work as they no doubt will every time a wheel is removed.

    Do the better brakes such as new XTs need all this jacking around all the time? I've only ever used BB7s and like them a lot, but I get tired of constantly messing with those stupid bolts to prevent rubbing.
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    My bars weighed about 275 and I think the 400mm seat post was about that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    My bars weighed about 275 and I think the 400mm seat post was about that too.
    Thanks. Nothing is really all that heavy other than the tires and wheels.

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    Just ordered a small for my girlfriend. Really just want the frame so if anyone wants EVERYTHING else, let me know...otherwise, it'll be in the classifieds soon.

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    the avids shouldnt need anymore or less maintenance alignment wise than any other disc brake once set up properly

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Just ordered a small for my girlfriend. Really just want the frame so if anyone wants EVERYTHING else, let me know...otherwise, it'll be in the classifieds soon.

    Will post pictures when I get it all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    dibs on the fork if its an orange frame!
    It's the green...I'm already getting yelled at...might have to cancel the order
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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    the avids shouldnt need anymore or less maintenance alignment wise than any other disc brake once set up properly
    My experience in the past is that they adjustment every time I remove and replace a wheel. It's no too bad, but is there any system that self aligns and adjusts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    It's the green...I'm already getting yelled at...might have to cancel the order
    How are you building it up?

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    If I decide to go forward, I have a WB Loop, white P35 to DT240S wheels, Thomson stem & post, shimano xt 1x10, shimano xt brakes, older LX cranks in 170. Otherwise I'll sell all that stuff and buy myself something, my girl has been unappreciative of my love of cycling lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    If I decide to go forward, I have a WB Loop, white P35 to DT240S wheels, Thomson stem & post, shimano xt 1x10, shimano xt brakes, older LX cranks in 170. Otherwise I'll sell all that stuff and buy myself something, my girl has been unappreciative of my love of cycling lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    My experience in the past is that they adjustment every time I remove and replace a wheel. It's no too bad, but is there any system that self aligns and adjusts?
    I run bb7's on one bike, and xt's on 2 others, neither have any issues with alignment after removing the wheel...im guessing it has to do with either the initial setup not being right, not getting the wheel into the dropouts the same way each time, or maybe a warped rotor... the caliper should be fixed to where it isnt moving around every time you take off the wheel

    im not aware of a self aligning brake, but hydros self adjust for pad wear

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    I run bb7's on one bike, and xt's on 2 others, neither have any issues with alignment after removing the wheel...im guessing it has to do with either the initial setup not being right, not getting the wheel into the dropouts the same way each time, or maybe a warped rotor... the caliper should be fixed to where it isnt moving around every time you take off the wheel

    im not aware of a self aligning brake, but hydros self adjust for pad wear
    Good to know. My problems have all been on a bike with bolt ons and track ends - the wheel can walk a little during tightening.

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    It looks like all the Civilian bikes have been removed from the Department of Goods website. Congrats to everyone who got their bike for an unbelievable 40% off the original price.

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    She Finally Arrived.




    XLT fits great. I'm 6'5" and it makes me feel small. Its going to take some getting used to, but I think I will thoroughly enjoy it. Feels a bit clumsy compared to smaller 26".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakman View Post
    It looks like all the Civilian bikes have been removed from the Department of Goods website. Congrats to everyone who got their bike for an unbelievable 40% off the original price.
    I bet this had something to do with all the retroactive discounts! I bet it comes back in a few weeks, but I doubt they'll have many left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danner182 View Post
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    XLT fits great. I'm 6'5" and it makes me feel small. Its going to take some getting used to, but I think I will thoroughly enjoy it. Feels a bit clumsy compared to smaller 26".
    Is this your first 29er? They feel large at first. You look like the right size for the baby.

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    You guys are killing me. I can't wait to get mine. How long did it take for yours to arrive from when you ordered it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Is this your first 29er? They feel large at first. You look like the right size for the baby.
    Yeah, it is my first 29er. I think I will like it tho.


    Alefak,

    UPS really did me dirty and delivered to wrong address and is now lost. Then after several days, back country next day air'd me another one. Depending on how far away you live, it will take 4 days. It took me a total of 13 days to get mine. Well worth the wait

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    Mine took about 4 or 5 days to California.

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    Yea it took mine four days to get to New Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danner182 View Post
    Yeah, it is my first 29er. I think I will like it tho.


    Alefak,

    UPS really did me dirty and delivered to wrong address and is now lost. Then after several days, back country next day air'd me another one. Depending on how far away you live, it will take 4 days. It took me a total of 13 days to get mine. Well worth the wait
    If you don't mind me asking what size inseam do you wear. I am 6-8 and wear a 38" inseam and was hoping the xlt would fit me.

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