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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

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    Pulled the trigger and made the mistake of riding it home. Now i want it!
    You'll need to get a new one when or if they have come out.

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    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    You'll need to get a new one when or if they have come out.
    I know. Its a small, and i'm roughly 5'10" and i didn't have an allen key to put the seat back up, so it was like riding a giant bmx, with a giant grin the whole way home.

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    Whats the consensus on weight with this bike? Bone stock with pedals it weighed 26.8 lbs. Seems high as i think i saw some people quoting 26.X lbs for large sizes? Tires and wheels gotta go. Im hoping we can get it down to under 23.

    This bike has a pretty high front end. Has anyone swapped out the risers to a big sweep bar or alt bar? Photos?

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    Mine weighs 25 with almost everything stock except Charger wheels and 690/790 gram tires tubeless. I can make it almost 23 even when I throw on Crests with lighter tires. The frame is 6+ pounds, so it'll never be that light. I happen to love the high front and the low risers feel perfect to me.

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    I have had mine down to high 23/low 24 lb range but currently at 25.2 lbs with fatty 2.4 Conti. Mountain Kings rolling tubless on Stan's Arch EX wheelset. I am running a Niner Carbon flat top bar and an Easton carbon post at this weight (size large). I love the high front end with the 100mm rigid fork. Super comfortable and lots of fun to toss around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newdee View Post
    Whats the consensus on weight with this bike? Bone stock with pedals it weighed 26.8 lbs. Seems high as i think i saw some people quoting 26.X lbs for large sizes? Tires and wheels gotta go. Im hoping we can get it down to under 23.

    This bike has a pretty high front end. Has anyone swapped out the risers to a big sweep bar or alt bar? Photos?
    Mine is 23 even and I run tubes. Everything except frame, fork, and headset have been replaced. 1500g wheelset onboard. I could get to 22.3ish if I went tubeless. But I don't ride enough to make that worth it. To get to a solid 22 pound bike you will need to buy nice stuff. XO cranks and the like. No middle of the road stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    My quick take:
    - The deal on Competitive Cyclist was smoking while it lasted consdiering a lot of folks nabbed the whole bike for the same price as just the bare frame.
    - The new frameset looks like a better rear dropout design (looks like less potential for slipping)
    - Not buying the "up to a pound" lighter statement.... the thing is a tank then, it still is in the new design
    - I wonder about the paint durability based on the fact they are using the same factory
    - I doubt I would spend $600 for the frame,... I think my price point would be closer to $475-525 for the bare frame (no HS, seat clamp, fork)
    - New colors don't do anything for me... then again.... I like white bikes....
    - I like the abilty to run a belt as its always interested me...and not that there is anything in a name... but the Luddite now has a full tapered carbon fork, machined head tube, BB30 shell, carbon drive drivetrain... about the only thing not current tech is the tubeset. Not complaining, its just funny.

    Stellar bike. I am not sure I will ever have a reason to sell mine.... but price point jumped up a bit too high at which point I wouild probabliy just get a Niner SIR.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?

    It's interesting how far up market they're trying to go. I love mine, but this is a stiffer and heavier type frame and I don't think the special "founder's blend" steel will change that much. The frame still looks burly. My $150 On One is smother and lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    It's interesting how far up market they're trying to go. I love mine, but this is a stiffer and heavier type frame and I don't think the special "founder's blend" steel will change that much. The frame still looks burly. My $150 On One is smother and lighter.
    I agree. I also have an Inbred and there seems to be a pretty big contrast between the tubing. Although, its pretty hard to complain since we bought the Luddite for $400 and it was ridden about twice judging by the wear(or lack thereof) on the tires.

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    Anyone seen a Civilian Luddite 29er?


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    Just converted mine to 1x10
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    Has anyone put a drop bar on one of these? The high front end seems like it would work well for that like a Fargo.

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    If anyone still has the original truvativ GXP crank and bottom bracket, can you take a pic and post it of the drive side space between the chainring and the bottom bracket? I had mine apart and need to see what it should look like. For some reason I have about a 1/4" gap between the chainring and the BB now when I put it back together. Just want to make sure something is not messed up.

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    Is there any play in the cransket? I can check mine tonight but i have removed reinstalled the crank multiple times and dont remember a space that that looks like that. I think if you installed wrong you would have play unless you did something like put wave washer on wrong side.

    I am still really enjoying this bike and while almost sold at one point I am glad I kept and am looking to turn it into more a bikepacking rig. iahve had it setup SS, 1x9, 3x9, and should have some leftover 1x10 parts to throw on soon.
    XC, Road, XXC, Endurance, Mtn, All-Mtn, Cross, Gravel, just go have fun on 2 wheels!

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    No, with the gap its got zero play. Which is why I took it apart to remove play. The pic would be helpful. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    If anyone still has the original truvativ GXP crank and bottom bracket, can you take a pic and post it of the drive side space between the chainring and the bottom bracket? I had mine apart and need to see what it should look like. For some reason I have about a 1/4" gap between the chainring and the BB now when I put it back together. Just want to make sure something is not messed up.
    Here are some pics:

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    thanks that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alefak View Post
    thanks that helps!
    Glad to help....Crappy I pad pics best I can do right now, tight schedule today.

    Anyone out there waiting for the new updated bike to ship??

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