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    Any drop-bar specific 29+ frame?

    Is there any on the market?

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    I'm waiting for one. C'mon Salsa, Surly, Singular, or maybe On One - take my money.

    (the newer singular gryphon will fit 29+ in the fork, but not the frame)
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    Not drop bar specific but the E.C.R. with its shorter top tube and lower bb might be a good fit.

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    Paul Component has something in their Instagram feed a while back, fantastic looking bike..

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    Singular Gryphon ? Singular Cycles

    EDIT: Says up to 29x3" in the fork but only 2.4 in the rear

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    Salsa Fargo is probably the closest thing to what you are looking for.

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    Any drop-bar specific 29+ frame?

    Just a proto. And full fat, but it could probably fit 29+ too.

    http://salsacycles.com/culture/proto...k_purple_reign

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Just a proto. And full fat, but it could probably fit 29+ too.

    Salsa Cycles
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    purple reign proto is a kind of beauty... but still a proto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmmorath View Post
    Singular Gryphon ? Singular Cycles

    EDIT: Says up to 29x3" in the fork but only 2.4 in the rear
    I'd actually just emailed Sam from Singular about that a little while ago, and he said that he used a narrow rim (a flow) to fit a 29+ in the rear (not sure what tire).

    But I'm still waiting for true dropbar 29+, so I told him if he does a kickstarter he can count me in (unless salsa beats him to the punch).

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    Oh, and there's potentially the new Jones: Singletrack Magazine | Jones Plus 29+ hits the UK

    I haven't seen detailed geo information, but there's a post in that link that says:

    The ‘reach’ on the 24″ Jones Plus is about the same as the reach on the 23″ Jones 29″. The wheel base is longer on the Jones Plus but the cockpit / seat to bars distance and the reach is not longer. The rider fit is not stretched out, the wheel base is.

    24″ wheel base is 1175mm / 46.26″
    25″ wheel base is 1205mm /47.44″

    Both 24″ and 25″ have a longer wheel base than the XXL ECR Or Krampus. The Jones Plus 24″ has less reach than a small Surly ECR and the 25″ has less reach then the medium. A long wheel base does not equal a longer reach and cockpit fit.
    I don't know how drops work with the Jones fork, but that seems like it has potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactweek View Post
    Not drop bar specific but the E.C.R. with its shorter top tube and lower bb might be a good fit.
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    It depends on what kind of drop bar setup your going for but most existing bikes can be built with drops. For a dirt drop setup you just need a way to get the bars high enough, for a traditional setup you can size the frame down and use a long seat post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_papa_nuts View Post
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    It depends on what kind of drop bar setup your going for but most existing bikes can be built with drops. For a dirt drop setup you just need a way to get the bars high enough, for a traditional setup you can size the frame down and use a long seat post.
    That's sooooooooo close to my planned build, biggest difference being that I decided on a Krampus instead of an ECR the frame.

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    My IMBA Niner ROS 9+ XL has bar height that is low and I am thinking a nice LD stem and drops might be great on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_papa_nuts View Post
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    It depends on what kind of drop bar setup your going for but most existing bikes can be built with drops. For a dirt drop setup you just need a way to get the bars high enough, for a traditional setup you can size the frame down and use a long seat post.
    I thought the problem with putting drop bars on a regular frame is the bars being too low? Most people use lots of spacers and a high rise stem. I think getting a frame one size bigger would be a better option.Your seat would be lower in relation to the bars, but stand-over may be an issue. You would have room for a nice big frame bag though!

    That bike looks cool, but the bars are way too low. Most people try to get the drops around saddle lever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    I thought the problem with putting drop bars on a regular frame is the bars being too low? Most people use lots of spacers and a high rise stem. I think getting a frame one size bigger would be a better option.Your seat would be lower in relation to the bars, but stand-over may be an issue. You would have room for a nice big frame bag though!
    I don't think a frame one size bigger to be a good option.

    Dropbar specific frames have taller headtube (as you know) but shorter top tubes (4-5cm shorter) because of the added reach of a dropbar vs a flatbar.
    To convert a regular mtb frame to dropbar you'd need a very short stem with high rise and lots of spacers, but a smaller size would be a better conversion because of the shorter top tube.

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    It's a tossup: get a big frame with higher bars but too much reach, or a small frame with low bars but better reach.

    I'm running a bigger frame with a 35deg stern, and it's reachy but it works okay, but I'd really like to get a dropbar-specific frame (and I'm trying to hold out for a 29+)

    The bar setup in that photo is definitely not the goal, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo View Post
    I don't think a frame one size bigger to be a good option.

    Dropbar specific frames have taller headtube (as you know) but shorter top tubes (4-5cm shorter) because of the added reach of a dropbar vs a flatbar.
    To convert a regular mtb frame to dropbar you'd need a very short stem with high rise and lots of spacers, but a smaller size would be a better conversion because of the shorter top tube.
    I understand what your saying, but going smaller makes the bars even lower in relation to the saddle.

    For what it's worth, it seems the Singular Gryphon has lots of tire clearance. Check out Colorado Specialty Velo on Facebook, they claim to fit a prototype Panaracer 29+ tire on a Dually rim in the back. They also have framesets for sale for $750!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    Check out Colorado Specialty Velo on Facebook, they claim to fit a prototype Panaracer 29+ tire on a Dually rim in the back. They also have framesets for sale for $750!
    Awww, man. I really like the gryphon but had been waiting, but that picture on their page might make me take the plunge. (I've got blunt35s, and that's all I'm worried about)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    I understand what your saying, but going smaller makes the bars even lower in relation to the saddle.

    For what it's worth, it seems the Singular Gryphon has lots of tire clearance. Check out Colorado Specialty Velo on Facebook, they claim to fit a prototype Panaracer 29+ tire on a Dually rim in the back. They also have framesets for sale for $750!
    mmm if i get it right they're saying that a Panaracer fat b nimble tire on a Dually rim fits fine, but it's a B+ tire (650b) not a 29+ one.. (post dated 11/9)

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo View Post
    mmm if i get it right they're saying that a Panaracer fat b nimble tire on a Dually rim fits fine, but it's a B+ tire (650b) not a 29+ one.. (post dated 11/9)
    Panaracer is coming out with 29+ and 27.5+ versions of the Fat B Nimble. The post dated 11/9 starts: "Want to run 29+?". That makes me think they are talking about the 29+ version...

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    ^ I agree that it sounds like they're probably talking 29+, and the tire looks so far forward and close to the chainstay bridge that I think it would have to be (although perspective can be misleading). And Sam from Singular did say that he'd done it with flows.

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    ok, so i'm probably wrong, sorry

    if it's a 29+ it's really interesting

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    If you're building from the frame up, you can control the length where the steerer is cut. Then, the smaller frame is a better option.

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    I understand what your saying, but going smaller makes the bars even lower in relation to the saddle.

    For what it's worth, it seems the Singular Gryphon has lots of tire clearance. Check out Colorado Specialty Velo on Facebook, they claim to fit a prototype Panaracer 29+ tire on a Dually rim in the back. They also have framesets for sale for $750!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    If you're building from the frame up, you can control the length where the steerer is cut. Then, the smaller frame is a better option.
    Generally going a larger frame will only gain you 10-15mm in headtube height, and given that the saddle will be at the same height, relative to the bottom bracket, but the top tube will grow an inch or more it will be harder to make a larger frame fit correctly. If your building from frame just leave the fork long and you should be fine.

    Again, dirt drops should fit similar to flats only higher, but a traditional (road) setup will benefit from a shorter top tube, but may require a long seatpost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPee View Post
    Paul Component has something in their Instagram feed a while back, fantastic looking bike..
    That's a custom bike by Engin in Philly - sweet bike but not off the shelf...

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    Here it came, in the end... Salsa Cycles

    Anyway, I already built a Gryphon (29+front) and I'm not sure I'd be happier with the new Salsa.

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    ^ I also did a Gryphon, but that Deadwood looks pretty nice.

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    Sorry for digging up an old thread, but I read somewhere that the 2017 Fargo will be a boosted 29+. I will stand in line for one if it is!

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