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    Quote Originally Posted by wintersolstice View Post
    Can't wait to get mine up here... but it's still just parts.

    /edit: Can someone point me to a thread that describes the difference between AM and XC, etc? I am seriously missing something on these posts that are getting called out.

    Well according to me an AM bike will have more relaxed geometry and be ridden on trails that have larger technical sections, with drops and jumps, rocks and logs to cross and be generally more burly. An XC bike is a bike designed to be ridden fast, it may have less slack geometry and to be ridden on trails that are filled with few drops and jumps, rocks and logs to cross and will generally be built lighter with lighter wheels, narrower and lighter tires, lower handlebars and 2x or 3x gear setups.

    Don't believe the hype in the AM forum that an AM bike has to be a 26er or have 150mm travel minimum front and rear or flat pedals or a dropper seatpost. While many AM bikes have that many don't, including my own that has non of that yet I ride predominantly AM trails. Big rocks, drops and jumps. Steep and technical and my bike is hefty for a non suspended 1x9 rigid bike.
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    I was (still am) lusting after a Highball w/120mm fork but couldn't find one to demo in the Bay Area. That coupled with some people telling me how harsh it was I ended up going with a TransAM 29 which should be here next week... If the TransAM works out well for NorCal trails I may end up with a Highball eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    ..cut

    Don't believe the hype in the AM forum that an AM bike has to be a 26er or have 150mm travel minimum front and rear or flat pedals or a dropper seatpost. While many AM bikes have that many don't, including my own that has non of that yet I ride predominantly AM trails. Big rocks, drops and jumps. Steep and technical and my bike is hefty for a non suspended 1x9 rigid bike.
    Curious, why wouldn't say a jet 9 with Reverb and 140mm front sus not be be classified AM?

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    Some sexy bikes in here.

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    My own 29er


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    A lot of you have already seen this since first posted pictures earlier in the year, but I figured I'd add it to the group, since I'd say that it certainly fits into the AM hardtail category.

    I've been really enjoying how well this bike works. Sometimes I forget that it's not my DH bike, and it also climbs surprisingly well.

    All dimensions are with the fork set at 110 mm.
    HA: 67.3 degrees - that is not a typo! (It's under 66.5 with the fork @ 140, but I don't ride it that way.)
    BB: 12-1/4"
    CS: 16-5/8" - yes, even with a front derailleur

    More details here: West Coast AM Hardtail
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    HA: 67° and really enjoying it..
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    Fun ride.


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    Blaster, that bike looks great.

    And that raw Banshee isn't bad either.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaC View Post
    Curious, why wouldn't say a jet 9 with Reverb and 140mm front sus not be be classified AM?
    I wouldn't say it was an AM bike only because the frames are relatively light but it could totally be an AM bike, just needs to be ridden like one. My wife would kill it on that bike where as I would kill the bike for the same riding.

    I think the benefit of the FS class of 29ers is that they can be AM bikes because generally they are a little less S-works race bikes and a little more ride 'em everywhere bikes. Longer travel fork and you have a slack AM capable bike, shorter travel fork and you have nice Trail/XC bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    I wouldn't say it was an AM bike only because the frames are relatively light but it could totally be an AM bike, just needs to be ridden like one. My wife would kill it on that bike where as I would kill the bike for the same riding.

    I think the benefit of the FS class of 29ers is that they can be AM bikes because generally they are a little less S-works race bikes and a little more ride 'em everywhere bikes. Longer travel fork and you have a slack AM capable bike, shorter travel fork and you have nice Trail/XC bike.
    Reason I used the example is the clear delineation between the jet and rip. I personally have never seen a cracked JET frame of the new design and the little bit of squish in rear should compensate for any rear triangle weakness.

    Seems the HT fellows feel the need to justify them as valid AM bikes and it would appear the same upgrades would push the XC bikes into lower grade AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster1200 View Post
    A lot of you have already seen this since first posted pictures earlier in the year, but I figured I'd add it to the group, since I'd say that it certainly fits into the AM hardtail category.

    I've been really enjoying how well this bike works. Sometimes I forget that it's not my DH bike, and it also climbs surprisingly well.

    All dimensions are with the fork set at 110 mm.
    HA: 67.3 degrees - that is not a typo! (It's under 66.5 with the fork @ 140, but I don't ride it that way.)
    BB: 12-1/4"
    CS: 16-5/8" - yes, even with a front derailleur

    More details here: West Coast AM Hardtail
    That bike is seriously the most amazing HT 29er I've ever seen, and you have all the credit to yourself. Super well done. I can only imagine how proud you must be when riding it.
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    So I'm curious and want to build my first AM bike. What classifies a bike as AM anyway? I got two 29er steel HT frames with 70 deg HA and plenty of clearance for 2.4 tires. Would like to throw a 120mm 1 1/8 inch fork on, wider bars, and simpler drivetrain, or even SS, and see what I can do with them. Any tips or suggestions? Would steering be THAT far off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kofoed View Post
    HA: 67° and really enjoying it..
    Nice!
    What is it?

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    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    Another Build

    This ones due in Hendersonville, NC this afternoon:

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    My custom Ventana

    Build this up to meet the demands of our rugged trails but my light and agile enough to race it here and there. The bike rips!
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    Great thread.

    Gotta love AM hardtails. Why have a bunch of bushings, springs, components that can break when you can just have a hardtail
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge View Post
    Nice!
    What is it?
    It's an Ari (ari cycles) - a small custom builder from Israel, his brother has a cool bikeshop in Copenhagen. They really like steel 29ers

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    Here is my contribution. Nimble 9 with Ardents front and rear and new dropper post.
    Last edited by Captain_America1976; 06-22-2012 at 02:18 PM.

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    ^ Nice! Some great riding in the Sherando area!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    ^ Nice! Some great riding in the Sherando area!
    That ride was a bit of a learning experience, but I am really looking forward to getting back there again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kofoed View Post
    Finally got my camera with me..
    what kind of frame is that? Looks sweet
    "Bound to cover just a little more ground"

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