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    Quote Originally Posted by wintersolstice View Post
    Can't wait to get mine up here... but it's still just parts.

    /edit: Can someone point me to a thread that describes the difference between AM and XC, etc? I am seriously missing something on these posts that are getting called out.

    Well according to me an AM bike will have more relaxed geometry and be ridden on trails that have larger technical sections, with drops and jumps, rocks and logs to cross and be generally more burly. An XC bike is a bike designed to be ridden fast, it may have less slack geometry and to be ridden on trails that are filled with few drops and jumps, rocks and logs to cross and will generally be built lighter with lighter wheels, narrower and lighter tires, lower handlebars and 2x or 3x gear setups.

    Don't believe the hype in the AM forum that an AM bike has to be a 26er or have 150mm travel minimum front and rear or flat pedals or a dropper seatpost. While many AM bikes have that many don't, including my own that has non of that yet I ride predominantly AM trails. Big rocks, drops and jumps. Steep and technical and my bike is hefty for a non suspended 1x9 rigid bike.
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    I was (still am) lusting after a Highball w/120mm fork but couldn't find one to demo in the Bay Area. That coupled with some people telling me how harsh it was I ended up going with a TransAM 29 which should be here next week... If the TransAM works out well for NorCal trails I may end up with a Highball eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    ..cut

    Don't believe the hype in the AM forum that an AM bike has to be a 26er or have 150mm travel minimum front and rear or flat pedals or a dropper seatpost. While many AM bikes have that many don't, including my own that has non of that yet I ride predominantly AM trails. Big rocks, drops and jumps. Steep and technical and my bike is hefty for a non suspended 1x9 rigid bike.
    Curious, why wouldn't say a jet 9 with Reverb and 140mm front sus not be be classified AM?

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    Some sexy bikes in here.

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    My own 29er


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    A lot of you have already seen this since first posted pictures earlier in the year, but I figured I'd add it to the group, since I'd say that it certainly fits into the AM hardtail category.

    I've been really enjoying how well this bike works. Sometimes I forget that it's not my DH bike, and it also climbs surprisingly well.

    All dimensions are with the fork set at 110 mm.
    HA: 67.3 degrees - that is not a typo! (It's under 66.5 with the fork @ 140, but I don't ride it that way.)
    BB: 12-1/4"
    CS: 16-5/8" - yes, even with a front derailleur

    More details here: West Coast AM Hardtail
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    HA: 67° and really enjoying it..
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    Fun ride.


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    Blaster, that bike looks great.

    And that raw Banshee isn't bad either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaC View Post
    Curious, why wouldn't say a jet 9 with Reverb and 140mm front sus not be be classified AM?
    I wouldn't say it was an AM bike only because the frames are relatively light but it could totally be an AM bike, just needs to be ridden like one. My wife would kill it on that bike where as I would kill the bike for the same riding.

    I think the benefit of the FS class of 29ers is that they can be AM bikes because generally they are a little less S-works race bikes and a little more ride 'em everywhere bikes. Longer travel fork and you have a slack AM capable bike, shorter travel fork and you have nice Trail/XC bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    I wouldn't say it was an AM bike only because the frames are relatively light but it could totally be an AM bike, just needs to be ridden like one. My wife would kill it on that bike where as I would kill the bike for the same riding.

    I think the benefit of the FS class of 29ers is that they can be AM bikes because generally they are a little less S-works race bikes and a little more ride 'em everywhere bikes. Longer travel fork and you have a slack AM capable bike, shorter travel fork and you have nice Trail/XC bike.
    Reason I used the example is the clear delineation between the jet and rip. I personally have never seen a cracked JET frame of the new design and the little bit of squish in rear should compensate for any rear triangle weakness.

    Seems the HT fellows feel the need to justify them as valid AM bikes and it would appear the same upgrades would push the XC bikes into lower grade AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster1200 View Post
    A lot of you have already seen this since first posted pictures earlier in the year, but I figured I'd add it to the group, since I'd say that it certainly fits into the AM hardtail category.

    I've been really enjoying how well this bike works. Sometimes I forget that it's not my DH bike, and it also climbs surprisingly well.

    All dimensions are with the fork set at 110 mm.
    HA: 67.3 degrees - that is not a typo! (It's under 66.5 with the fork @ 140, but I don't ride it that way.)
    BB: 12-1/4"
    CS: 16-5/8" - yes, even with a front derailleur

    More details here: West Coast AM Hardtail
    That bike is seriously the most amazing HT 29er I've ever seen, and you have all the credit to yourself. Super well done. I can only imagine how proud you must be when riding it.

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    So I'm curious and want to build my first AM bike. What classifies a bike as AM anyway? I got two 29er steel HT frames with 70 deg HA and plenty of clearance for 2.4 tires. Would like to throw a 120mm 1 1/8 inch fork on, wider bars, and simpler drivetrain, or even SS, and see what I can do with them. Any tips or suggestions? Would steering be THAT far off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kofoed View Post
    HA: 67° and really enjoying it..
    Nice!
    What is it?

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    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    Another Build

    This ones due in Hendersonville, NC this afternoon:

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    My custom Ventana

    Build this up to meet the demands of our rugged trails but my light and agile enough to race it here and there. The bike rips!
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    Great thread.

    Gotta love AM hardtails. Why have a bunch of bushings, springs, components that can break when you can just have a hardtail
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge View Post
    Nice!
    What is it?
    It's an Ari (ari cycles) - a small custom builder from Israel, his brother has a cool bikeshop in Copenhagen. They really like steel 29ers

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    Here is my contribution. Nimble 9 with Ardents front and rear and new dropper post.
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    ^ Nice! Some great riding in the Sherando area!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    ^ Nice! Some great riding in the Sherando area!
    That ride was a bit of a learning experience, but I am really looking forward to getting back there again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kofoed View Post
    Finally got my camera with me..
    what kind of frame is that? Looks sweet
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    Total noob question, but what's the difference between
    a AM hardtail 29er and your standard 29er? Fork travel?
    Frame geometry? How do they ride differently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_America1976 View Post
    That ride was a bit of a learning experience, but I am really looking forward to getting back there again.
    Yeah...tough riding there with a SS


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    Quote Originally Posted by bellebelle View Post
    Total noob question, but what's the difference between
    a AM hardtail 29er and your standard 29er? Fork travel?
    Frame geometry? How do they ride differently?
    Pretty much the same as the diffence between an XC and a AM dual suspension bike - travel, slacker geo, tougher frame, tyre clearance and heavier duty build spec.

    PS I think this is my new favorite thread on mtbr - keep up the good work people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    Yeah...tough riding there with a SS
    SS wasn't the real problem I had a hell of a time finding the trailhead I was looking for, so I had to take the blue trail up from the lake. That sucked. Next time I will start on Mill Creek. I am sure climbing that on a SS will be a *****, but I will be rewarded with a great ride back down.

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    Forgot to put this up. Although I'm sure most have seen it by now. Seen a lot of saddle time but I just got my Range back so it's always a first world problem on which bike to ride

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    My 2012 Honzo.

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    The Eight Ball

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    These bikes look great. I've currently got a Redline D660 that I want to put a 130-140mm fork on and a 50mm stem. I'd love to stay HT but my local trails have been upgraded to a little more AM-ish. There is a 5 foot drop to flat that I've been dying to try.

    Any of you dropping to flat on these bikes? And how are you experiences in doing so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by playdead View Post
    what kind of frame is that? Looks sweet

    I already asked him. Answer:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kofoed View Post
    It's an Ari (ari cycles) - a small custom builder from Israel, his brother has a cool bikeshop in Copenhagen. They really like steel 29ers

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    My New Paradox Banshee V2...
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    Nice 2Souls, Crimargia. Very nice. How do you like the WB fork?
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    Here is mine..
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    What kinda front crank gear is that and is it a 30T??
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    @buddhak: it´s a real good working fork with a good value for the money.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    What kinda front crank gear is that and is it a 30T??
    Are you asking me? If so it's a generic Shimano SLX with big ring removed and replaced with the Gamut bash, and Front SLX der. limit screws adjusted properly. It's a 32 definitely not a 34.
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    Nice bike!

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    now with custom crown. 144mm travel and direct mount stem

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    i know its been a while since this thread has been updated but its my inspiration. i currently ride a wahoo that i like to consider an all mountain. only thing stock left on it is my seat post. lookin forward to ordering a new frame next spring when i get back to the states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
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    Since this thread was resurrected I feel obliged to provide more Yelli Porn.










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    ^ I really like that bike.

    How is the Pike treating you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshM View Post
    ^ I really like that bike.

    How is the Pike treating you?
    Pretty awesome. My first long travel fork - doesn't feel like I'm using the full 150mm but the little travel indicator says I am. Rides high in the travel but still swallows big hits. Definitely a winner in my book.

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    my new hot rod!
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    Went with the Tower Pro as I didn't want to invest too much in a non tapered fork. And I wanted white! Frame fell into my lap for peanuts, really happy with it. I want someone to make me a full squish bike that feels just like this....
    Fwiw I can never take a decent picture of it. Like Bigfoot.


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    Is it still OK to just call it my "mountain" bike?

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    mine in use on a mountain recently....

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    Here is mine. Added a shorter stem (75mm) and a dropper post since this pic. I love the short stays. This bike rips.
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    Its been a full season on my TransAM 29er and I'm still loving it as a daily driver, do anything bike.

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    Impatiently awaiting my Paradox frame. Just built up a Covert 29, but thinking the parts I have hung on it right now would better suit a hardtail for winter riding.

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    I just put the 140mm Tower Pro on it. I still have a few more tweaks left to do. The dropper post is being serviced, and I am going to get a Wolf Tooth 30T chainring.
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    First shot of my Paradox - just got this photo from my Wrench - haven't even seen it in person yet! 18 miles of trail riding planned for later!AM-Hardtail Gallery-2013102395135744.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig View Post
    First shot of my Paradox - just got this photo from my Wrench - haven't even seen it in person yet! 18 miles of trail riding planned for later!Click image for larger version. 

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    Dropper post, nice. Fork 120 or 140?

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    140 Reba RLT Ti with the 20mm thru axle. (The following year they replaced the "Reba" sticker with a "Revelation" sticker. Same fork.) The only problem with the dropper post is that it's maybe a hair too short and doesn't have a clamp offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig View Post
    140 Reba RLT Ti with the 20mm thru axle. (The following year they replaced the "Reba" sticker with a "Revelation" sticker. Same fork.) The only problem with the dropper post is that it's maybe a hair too short and doesn't have a clamp offset.
    Reply fail!
    Just wound up with a dropper on another purchase...still trying to decide how much I like it. Now that I'm thinking of it, maybe a 140mm on my Paradox would help my low BB out. Hmm.
    So a Reba is a stealth Revelation?

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    Had her 4 days, and have ridden every one of them. Love this bike.

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    2SoulsCycles QH Ti 2014


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    2Souls QH Ti (Proto)

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    When can we expect a XXL QH? I'm still waiting.
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    My humble contribution.

    This thread is too awesome to let die.

    My Highball with newly acquired SID 120 and beefy wheels/tyres. It's probably not really All Mountain, but definitely "Most of the Mountain" or "Quite a bit of the Mountain"

    Anyway, it's no longer XC, but muuuuucccchhhh more fun to ride down hills and through chunk this way.AM-Hardtail Gallery-20140712_163013_1.jpg
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    Here's an AM HT (with a rigid fork)

    Rides more like a 6" trail bike

    Salsa Bend 2 23° bars
    Sram X9 cranks with 30T MRP
    Knard front, 2.4 Racing Ralph rear
    Rider 6'2"


    The Stooge

    UK bike, but available in the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    Here's an AM HT (with a rigid fork)

    Rides more like a 6" trail bike

    Salsa Bend 2 23° bars
    Sram X9 cranks with 30T MRP
    Knard front, 2.4 Racing Ralph rear
    Rider 6'2"


    The Stooge

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    Nicee bike! If they made a Ti version like that I'd be flying to England to pick one up.

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    That sucker will go anywhere,

    120mm Manitou tower pro
    Hayes Strokker trail/gram 180/160
    Raceface Turbine crankset 2x10
    Shimano XT drive train w/ XTR double specific FD
    Answer 70mm stem, 720 protaper bar
    Geax Gato 2.3 and Goma 2.25 on WTB Frequecy i23 team rim, X9 hub
    Crankbros iodine 3 saddle, cobalt 3 post, mallet 2 pedals.

    built for rugged VT trails.

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    I'm now going to have to consider my By:Stickel in the All Mountain Hardtail category.

    16"+ stays, 150mm travel Pike and a Thomson drooper.

    My go-to bike in the Pisgah.

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    Ooh, Bystickles...

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    I'm now going to have to consider my By:Stickel in the All Mountain Hardtail category.

    16"+ stays, 150mm travel Pike and a Thomson drooper.

    My go-to bike in the Pisgah.

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    Is that a BC BIKE RACE number plate I see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TracksFromHell View Post
    Is that a BC BIKE RACE number plate I see?
    There's a couple of them on that wall.
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    And how was it on the hardtail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TracksFromHell View Post
    And how was it on the hardtail?
    I've done it twice (2007 and 2013) on a rigid single speed. The first time was on a Zion.



    It was pretty cool doing the race on a $200 frame while everyone else was on high zoot squishy bikes.

    Last year, I was on the By:Stickel with a rigid Niner carbon fork. It was even more fun than the first time... except for the four days of massive diarrhea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamdicky View Post
    It was pretty cool doing the race on a $200 frame while everyone else was on high zoot squishy bikes.
    Quote of the day!

    All hail .... this thing called .... talent ..um err, I mean ... having a hard a$$

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    Just completed building my bike.

    Trek Superfly Carbon 29er
    XTR GroupSet
    XTR BrakeSet
    Hope 70mm 0 degree Stem
    KS LEV 27.2 Seat dropper
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    that is the least AM thing ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScaryJerry View Post
    that is the least AM thing ever
    Yep totally agree with you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbem View Post
    Yep totally agree with you there.
    +2, I think he thinks the Saint flats put his bike in the AM genre. I just want to know if he has tires on those wheels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
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    nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post
    +2, I think he thinks the Saint flats put his bike in the AM genre. I just want to know if he has tires on those wheels...
    This. Not a bad bike for what it is, but dropper post and flats don't cancel the cyclocross tires and 90 degree HTA.

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    Hi everyone, I posted the following in the DB Mason Review thread, but it hasn't seen much action so I thought I would post here as well. I apologize for the cross posting, but am looking to buy the DB Mason HT before the sale price ends tonight. Any input is welcome even if you're not a Mason owner. Just looking for some opinions on my wanted riding position:

    "Hello, I'm new to the forum. I have had several back surgeries and being hunched over all day is no longer for me. I currently have a Specialized Expedition that I have been riding on rides that the designers never dreamed it could go (I am an ex moto-X-er) and am currently looking at the 2014 Mason (hardtail version)............. My question is, would you consider the seated riding position of the Mason as being "upright" when compared to a traditional XC hardtail? Thanks!"

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    D bone I can't offer much advise on the mason but if your looking for a more upright position the jamis exiles offer that....also good deals on jenson....might be too cross country though compared to the mason...but with a few quick upgrades....

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    Thanks for the input!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pointerDixie214 View Post
    This. Not a bad bike for what it is, but dropper post and flats don't cancel the cyclocross tires and 90 degree HTA.
    My eyes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pointerDixie214 View Post
    This. Not a bad bike for what it is, but dropper post and flats don't cancel the cyclocross tires and 90 degree HTA.
    yeah...all you haters are right, the bike makes the rider. so if you have a so-called "AM bike", then you MUST be an AM rider (whatever the F that means). Somebody with a hardtail and God forbid, a rigid hardtail, by definition then, cannot ride anything but sidewalks. I will probably pick up a DH bike so I can post in the DH forum about DH racing. Thanks, I get the math...

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    Uh, got nothing to do with the rider bub. That's an all golf course bike, nothing to do with AM. Im assuming the rider is small/light though?!?!

    Don't get me wrong, if you're 135lb and looking to be competitive in a non technical world cup xc race its a decent rig. This is an AM HT gallery thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back2MTB View Post
    This is an AM HT gallery thread...
    sorry, my bad. i read magazines on occasion but honestly, i struggle to really know what AM means. slack angles...how may inches of travel....can AM bikes have rotors less than 8"....tire width.....can 29er bikes be AM bikes, which i doubt, but still? if super slack angles, can you get away with less travel and still have it an AM bike? my local shop was not very helpful in helping me understand. fortunately i only have hardtails and cant do AM rides which makes my trail choices easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle View Post
    sorry, my bad. i read magazines on occasion but honestly, i struggle to really know what AM means. slack angles...how may inches of travel....can AM bikes have rotors less than 8"....tire width.....can 29er bikes be AM bikes, which i doubt, but still? if super slack angles, can you get away with less travel and still have it an AM bike? my local shop was not very helpful in helping me understand. fortunately i only have hardtails and cant do AM rides which makes my trail choices easier.
    Might it be considered AM if'n El Carbon Rider only rode on the forest roads?

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    Intense Hard Eddie!

    Swapped post for a Kronolog and added Race Face Atlas flats. Fork is only 100mm but actually works very well in most conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle View Post
    yeah...all you haters are right, the bike makes the rider. so if you have a so-called "AM bike", then you MUST be an AM rider (whatever the F that means). Somebody with a hardtail and God forbid, a rigid hardtail, by definition then, cannot ride anything but sidewalks. I will probably pick up a DH bike so I can post in the DH forum about DH racing. Thanks, I get the math...
    Whoa I think you got this all wrong. I am sure there are riders that could jump on that bike and smoke most the people in this thread on their bigger bikes, you very may well be one of them. But the thread isn't "AM Rider Gallery," it's "AM Hardtail Gallery." And just because someone can do something with a certain tool doesn't mean there aren't better tools more specific to the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tres Bottelas View Post
    Might it be considered AM if'n El Carbon Rider only rode on the forest roads?
    good question. i am a bit behind the magazines but i dont know if technically carbon bikes can be AM since that is more of a road bike material.

    if you rode a 6" travel FS bike on forest roads i am gathering from this thread it woudl be AM. and if DW link, 4" would make it AM

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