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    21lbs Carbon Hardtail 29r. Suggestions?

    I'd like to keep the price around $4K. I can also swap out wheels (Crests with 240s) and brakes (Formula R1) and pedals (Egg 4Ti) to keep price down.

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    Scott Scale 910. Or get the frame for 1570 and add your parts. The best geo.

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    My Chinese carbon 29er, with "real" tires and SID RCT3, weighs just under 20lbs and was put together for less than $4k. Way less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    My Chinese carbon 29er, with "real" tires and SID RCT3, weighs just under 20lbs and was put together for less than $4k. Way less.
    this.

    750mm bars, purgatory/ikon tire combo, sid, weighed with pedals/cages/garmin.

    I could drop to 19 easily with girly tires.

    And I spent less than half your budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    My Chinese carbon 29er, with "real" tires and SID RCT3, weighs just under 20lbs and was put together for less than $4k. Way less.

    Do tell!!! How?

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    Cannondale Flash

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    +1 on Scot Scale 910, very smooth ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyncStar View Post
    Do tell!!! How?
    It is pretty easy to put together a v. light bike on one of these chinese frames real cheap currently. I haven't bothered to weigh mine yet, but my frame was right on the 1200gr mark and i picked up a brand new take off XX groupset for $800 on the bay (XX is soooooo 2012). My complete build has worked out at only around $2500, and i figure would definitely have be under 22lb with CF seatpost, bar, seat rails.....and that is despite having chosen 'trail' oriented forks and wheelset rather than out-and-out XC. XX is give away prices currently because of XX1.

    My bike is much lighter than my brothers XTC composite and has worked out considerably cheaper. You can most definitely build cheaper than you can buy complete if you use the chinese frames and take your time shopping around for components. I'll have to post some pics of my build soon.

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    Love my 2012 Rocky mountain Vertex 970......Sweet Geo....very short chain stays for an xc race bike, great stand over, 1000 gram frame......beautiful

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    I'm thinking pretty hard about the Pivot Les. Nice geo, with the option to run single speed. Also 142x12 rear dropouts.

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    Foundry Cycles. The most amazing carbon hardtail you can buy. Not sure about the price though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptkevin View Post
    Love my 2012 Rocky mountain Vertex 970......Sweet Geo....very short chain stays for an xc race bike, great stand over, 1000 gram frame......beautiful
    +1. Such a sweet hardtail. Really comfy.
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    I dont ride a hardtail anymore but I loved my carbon Orbea. Ive seen the frames on ebay pretty cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyncStar View Post
    Do tell!!! How?
    1. buy chinese carbon frame for $450
    2. LEarn how to build wheels and build them yourself for $300 instead of paying $1000 plus.
    3. purchase xx1 groupset for $1000
    4. add $200 for the little things (grips, handlebars, headset, seatpost, collar, saddle)

    light bike for sub $2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpfitness View Post
    1. buy chinese carbon frame for $450
    2. LEarn how to build wheels and build them yourself for $300 instead of paying $1000 plus.
    3. purchase xx1 groupset for $1000
    4. add $200 for the little things (grips, handlebars, headset, seatpost, collar, saddle)

    light bike for sub $2000

    +$300 for brakes
    +$100 for tires
    +$600 for fork
    +$100 for pedals
    +$50 for stem

    My point is, it's going to be hard to build a light HT 29er for under 2k.
    -It's time to shred some mild to moderate gnar!!

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    Re: 21lbs Carbon Hardtail 29r. Suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05 View Post
    +$300 for brakes
    +$100 for tires
    +$600 for fork
    +$100 for pedals
    +$50 for stem

    My point is, it's going to be hard to build a light HT 29er for under 2k.
    The chinese carbon bikes come with a ridgid fork. Correct me if I'm wrong but if your trying to go sub 20lbs its a good chance your going ridgid. I'm not discounting the need for tires and stem but most avid cyclists probably already have a lot of those things. Brakes are certainly legit tho.

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    Re: 21lbs Carbon Hardtail 29r. Suggestions?

    Just reread original post. He already has wheels, pedals and brakes. That makes this a no brainer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tiki View Post
    Foundry Cycles. The most amazing carbon hardtail you can buy. Not sure about the price though.
    I love the geometry specs of this bike. It is at the top of my list for a future carbon HT. Looks like it's an ~$1800 frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpfitness View Post
    The chinese carbon bikes come with a ridgid fork. Correct me if I'm wrong but if your trying to go sub 20lbs its a good chance your going ridgid. I'm not discounting the need for tires and stem but most avid cyclists probably already have a lot of those things. Brakes are certainly legit tho.

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    not rigid here. they don't come with the rigid fork, but you can certainly add one on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpfitness View Post
    Just reread original post. He already has wheels, pedals and brakes. That makes this a no brainer

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    oops, I forgot that the OP had wheels, pedals, and brakes already. You shouldn't have much difficulty building up a light HT.
    -It's time to shred some mild to moderate gnar!!

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    Cannondale Flash. I like that Scott 910 as well (mentioned above).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpfitness View Post
    2. LEarn how to build wheels and build them yourself for $300 instead of paying $1000 plus.
    I pay dealer cost and build my own wheels, and I still don't know of a way to spend only $300 on a wheelset that would retail for $1000+.
    Worked at Trek/Fisher dealer 2008-2013. Only a little biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blunderbuss View Post
    I pay dealer cost and build my own wheels, and I still don't know of a way to spend only $300 on a wheelset that would retail for $1000+.
    if you get a decent hub (i.e. DTswiss, hope etc) you will pay at least 500 for the hubs new. So maybe $900 for a carbon wheelset.

    If you search you can find wheelsets or used hubs in the $300 range, making the wheelbuild cost about 700.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodmojo View Post
    if you get a decent hub (i.e. DTswiss, hope etc) you will pay at least 500 for the hubs new.
    Hope are much cheaper.

    Then, I do prefer an even cheaper Nukeproof ones to them. Almost as light, and no frigging noise.

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    Re: 21lbs Carbon Hardtail 29r. Suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by blunderbuss View Post
    I pay dealer cost and build my own wheels, and I still don't know of a way to spend only $300 on a wheelset that would retail for $1000+.
    I was being a bit dramatic but bikehubstore generic Taiwan hubs with stub frequency TCS rims jnstead of stans overpriced rims can yield an excellent inexpensive tubeless build for about 300.

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