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    2014 Trek Cobia and Mamba availability?

    Any one have information when the 2014 Trek Cobia and Mamba will be available?
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    Why are you looking forward to the '14s while the '13s are still available?

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    Not a fan of the color/ decal scheme of the '13s. Also, why do they put the Trek logo on the top of the down tube rather than on the side? Notice Specialized does the same.
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    I agree that the color scheme on those two 29HTs are rather ugly. In my eyes anyway. The logo doesn't bother me though.

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    The '13s were at my LBS in August/September last year, so probably the same this year. Remember, the bike is going to get dirty and banged up. That said, the '12 Cobia was a much better color (Chi red) than the '13.

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    I actually tried to order the blue/black '13 Cobia recently and was told that there are none available in my size in the country so I would have to get the white one or wait for the '14 models....so I actually wouldn't mind seeing what the '14 models look like!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebcity View Post
    I actually tried to order the blue/black '13 Cobia recently and was told that there are none available in my size in the country so I would have to get the white one or wait for the '14 models....so I actually wouldn't mind seeing what the '14 models look like!
    Did you get an ETA from your LBS about the '14 model?
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    No! Didn't have a clue.

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    Hi all - I am also very interested to know when the 2014 Mamba is out. Thought it would be silly to buy the 2013 one possibly weeks before the new version.

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    I to my Local Trek dealer Friday and he had the 2013 Mamba's for $899.99 and The 2013 Cobia's for $1,099.99 and with cash I think you can do better.
    Price's will get lower once the 2014 start rolling in that's if there are any 2013's left.
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    I think it may be hard finding the size I want from the specific dealer I prefer too.

    Is the Cobia worth the extra money? I am very new to the sport and this is my first bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by PauLCa916 View Post
    I to my Local Trek dealer Friday and he had the 2013 Mamba's for $899.99 and The 2013 Cobia's for $1,099.99 and with cash I think you can do better.
    Price's will get lower once the 2014 start rolling in that's if there are any 2013's left.

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    I bought the Cobia 2 weeks ago regardless that the new model might be available soon. I got a good deal and with the cycle to work scheme in Ireland, it makes the bikes half price. Despite snapping off the shifter in the first week in a spectacular piece of bad steering, I love the bike. Here's a list of upgrades from the Mamba:

    RockShox Recon Silver air fork
    SRAM S800 crank
    Shimano Deore front derailleur
    SRAM X5 rear derailleur & shifters
    Avid Elixir 1 brakes

    Probably not the greatest spec out there but worth the money over the Mamba in my opinion.

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    2014 Trek Race HTs, is the blue one the Cobia?

    This could be them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m View Post
    2014 Trek Race HTs, is the blue one the Cobia?

    This could be them.
    I can barely make out the blurry text at the bottom left but if I had to take a guess it appears to say X-Caliber although this doesn't seem right either because the fork has SR stamped on it and I really doubt the X-Cals will come with lower grade Suntour forks.

    I am going to hold out on the 2014 Cobia, I believe it is definitely worth the upgrade just with the air fork alone over Mamba's coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 80sforlife View Post
    I can barely make out the blurry text at the bottom left but if I had to take a guess it appears to say X-Caliber although this doesn't seem .
    That is from Trek World in Europe. I think your right it does say xcal, maybe they are offering three version of the Xcal next year or that is what they normally offer there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80sforlife View Post
    I can barely make out the blurry text at the bottom left but if I had to take a guess it appears to say X-Caliber although this doesn't seem right either because the fork has SR stamped on it and I really doubt the X-Cals will come with lower grade Suntour forks.

    I am going to hold out on the 2014 Cobia, I believe it is definitely worth the upgrade just with the air fork alone over Mamba's coil.
    In America, those would brobably be either Wahoos or Marlins, and I hope that the Mamba and Cobia continue to use RockShox forks, wit hthe Cobia using Soloair.

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    The Cobia looks all around better. I also did not like the paint this year. 2012's were really nice though..

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    I actually ended up ordering the X-Caliber 8 2014. I can't seem to find any information though about this bike anywhere online because it is so new. The main reason is that there is no 2014 Cobia or Mamba. The X-Cal is the replacement for all. Anyone have any suggestions or comments?

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    Trek X-Caliber 8 - 2014

    Specification
    Features
    29" wheels roll faster, ride better, clear more obstacles
    Alpha Gold Aluminium frame provides a fast, refined ride
    G2 Geometry: a better-handling 29er
    Backed by Trek's limited lifetime warranty
    Frameset
    Frame Alpha Gold Aluminium w/semi-integrated head tube, mechanically formed & butted tubing, race geometry, internal front derailleur routing, G2 Geometry
    Front suspension SR Suntour XCR-RL w/coil spring, preload, remote lockout, custom G2 Geometry w/51mm offset, 100mm travel (14.5": 80mm travel)
    Wheels
    Wheels Shimano RM66 centre lock alloy hubs w/Bontrager AT-650 32-hole double-walled rims
    Tires Bontrager XR1, 29x2.20"
    Drivetrain
    Shifters Shimano Deore, 10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano Deore
    Rear derailleur Shimano SLX Shadow
    Crank Shimano M522, 42/32/24
    Bottom bracket Cartridge
    Cassette Shimano HG62 11-36, 10 speed
    Pedals Wellgo nylon platform
    Components
    Saddle Bontrager Evoke 1.5
    Seatpost Bontrager SSR, 27.2mm, 12mm offset
    Handlebar Bontrager low-riser, 31.8mm, 15mm rise
    Stem Bontrager Race Lite, 31.8mm, 7 degree
    Grips Bontrager Race
    Headset 1-1/8" threadless, semi-integrated, semi-cartridge bearings
    Brakeset Shimano M395 hydraulic disc brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwienburg View Post
    I think it may be hard finding the size I want from the specific dealer I prefer too.

    Is the Cobia worth the extra money? I am very new to the sport and this is my first bike.
    I think the fork upgrade alone is worth it but I'm fairly new to MTB.
    But from what I hear and read it seem's like it is.
    Just got back from riding tried my buddies 2012 X Cal and it was sweeeet !
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwienburg View Post
    I actually ended up ordering the X-Caliber 8 2014.
    Was that a order in the US? If yes, what did they give your for delivery time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m View Post
    Was that a order in the US? If yes, what did they give your for delivery time?
    No - Sydney, Australia. Dealer expects to get it for me by tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwienburg View Post
    Trek X-Caliber 8 - 2014

    Specification
    Features
    29" wheels roll faster, ride better, clear more obstacles
    Alpha Gold Aluminium frame provides a fast, refined ride
    G2 Geometry: a better-handling 29er
    Backed by Trek's limited lifetime warranty
    Frameset
    Frame Alpha Gold Aluminium w/semi-integrated head tube, mechanically formed & butted tubing, race geometry, internal front derailleur routing, G2 Geometry
    Front suspension SR Suntour XCR-RL w/coil spring, preload, remote lockout, custom G2 Geometry w/51mm offset, 100mm travel (14.5": 80mm travel)
    Wheels
    Wheels Shimano RM66 centre lock alloy hubs w/Bontrager AT-650 32-hole double-walled rims
    Tires Bontrager XR1, 29x2.20"
    Drivetrain
    Shifters Shimano Deore, 10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano Deore
    Rear derailleur Shimano SLX Shadow
    Crank Shimano M522, 42/32/24
    Bottom bracket Cartridge
    Cassette Shimano HG62 11-36, 10 speed
    Pedals Wellgo nylon platform
    Components
    Saddle Bontrager Evoke 1.5
    Seatpost Bontrager SSR, 27.2mm, 12mm offset
    Handlebar Bontrager low-riser, 31.8mm, 15mm rise
    Stem Bontrager Race Lite, 31.8mm, 7 degree
    Grips Bontrager Race
    Headset 1-1/8" threadless, semi-integrated, semi-cartridge bearings
    Brakeset Shimano M395 hydraulic disc brakes

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    Trek, I do not know if you are listening now, but please NO! We do not want a nice frame with nice geometry and nice components being ruined by a Suntour fork.
    I believe that many others agree with me on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    Trek, I do not know if you are listening now, but please NO! We do not want a nice frame with nice geometry and nice components being ruined by a Suntour fork.
    I believe that many others agree with me on this.
    I totally agree, big turn off. Terrible component to get sketchy on. Im in the market for a new ride. May be looking at a Specialized or Giant now.

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    $1000 for a Cobia is a really good deal. I would have bought one at that price probably. I tested a Mamba out, and the Hayes brakes would not lock up, literally. Just for comparison I tried a 3900 out with rim brakes and it locked up immediately. I could not take the Mamba seriously after that test ride. Cobia is a real bike. Combined with a discount and Trek service packages, it was hard for me not to wait for a deal on one at the Trek "gambler" sale.. But I just don't like the wide look of Treks right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    Trek, I do not know if you are listening now, but please NO! We do not want a nice frame with nice geometry and nice components being ruined by a Suntour fork.
    I believe that many others agree with me on this.
    That's crazy Suntour ?
    What is Trek thinking ?
    I'm glad I grabbed a 2012 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp 29er HT three weeks ago At least I got the Reba RL Dual Air and I'm loving it
    Just got. back went to my Local Trek dealer no 2014's yet and they don't have a clue when they will be here but both of the workers there agreed I was better off getting the SJ Comp
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    Quote Originally Posted by STACK View Post
    $1000 for a Cobia is a really good deal. I would have bought one at that price probably. I tested a Mamba out, and the Hayes brakes would not lock up, literally. Just for comparison I tried a 3900 out with rim brakes and it locked up immediately. I could not take the Mamba seriously after that test ride. Cobia is a real bike. Combined with a discount and Trek service packages, it was hard for me not to wait for a deal on one at the Trek "gambler" sale.. But I just don't like the wide look of Treks right now.
    I think you can get it for $850 cash
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    Quote Originally Posted by PauLCa916 View Post
    I think you can get it for $850 cash
    Stop trying to make me sad. I got a bike I like for >$800, and I think I'll be happy. The Trek store my buddy runs does great business, it's on retail ally here in MI, I don't think he would have let one go for less than $950.. I worked under him (before I was promoted myself) at another high end fitness retail store a while back and he took pride in his "highest margin" monthly awards.. He would take care of me, but that would have be $950, $50 cheaper than most anybody else. Someday, when I grow up, I'll buy a Trek with a 4 year service package and probably get more out of the bike than any other I've had.. But I haven't grown up yet lol

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    And if Trek tries to bump up its margin with a $100 fork on a $1200 bike, it will end up probably losing money. Trek is starting to try and appeal more and more to non-hardcore bikers it seems, because that is a huge market tbh.. But a Mamba up should not have a Suntour unless they are making a big move up in quality, which is possible. I don't hate Suntours, I have a bike with one on it that hasn't felt deficient in the front suspension in suburban commuting even once.. But the growing pains from going with ST's on over $1000 bikes would really hurt for a couple years at least imo.

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    These new 2014 X-Cal bikes do NOT use the 2013 hydoformed frame. They use a mechanically formed frame. Every bike has a bike path Suntour or RST fork except the 9 level, which gets an air XC32 and the 8 with the coil XC32. I would avoid these lower level bikes for trails.
    The Superfly line now starts with a Recon Silver fork bike and goes up. All should be good.
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    I'm pretty sure Trek have their 2014 range up online now and the Cobia and Mamba aren't part of it? It could be that they just haven't been added/finalized yet...
    There is a new Superfly 5 in the same price bracket however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebcity View Post
    I'm pretty sure Trek have their 2014 range up online now and the Cobia and Mamba aren't part of it? It could be that they just haven't been added/finalized yet...
    There is a new Superfly 5 in the same price bracket however.
    There is no Mamba or Cobia. The X-Cal line replaced both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebcity View Post
    I'm pretty sure Trek have their 2014 range up online now and the Cobia and Mamba aren't part of it? It could be that they just haven't been added/finalized yet...
    There is a new Superfly 5 in the same price bracket however.
    The Cobia and Mamba are gone for good. Trek now just has the X-Caliber and Superfly lines for 29er hardtails.

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    Well that's disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    These new 2014 X-Cal bikes do NOT use the 2013 hydoformed frame. They use a mechanically formed frame. .
    What is the difference between these two types of frames? Why is one worse than the other? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by coleam View Post
    The Cobia and Mamba are gone for good. Trek now just has the X-Caliber and Superfly lines for 29er hardtails.
    They have the Stache models too in the hardtails.

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    I ended up finding a used 2012 X-Cal for a great price. The superior X-Cal before Trek turned them mainstream for the 2014 year. The last true X-Cal was 2013. Now they are watered down.
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    As stated above, the mamba, cobia, and a couple other trek XC hardtail 29ers are being replaced by one line: the X-Caliber. They range from about 500 USD - 1200 USD with (obviously) varying components. The cobia would be most easily compared to the top of the range X-Cal 9 with an air fork and Deore/XT drivetrain.

    Hope this helps. The X-Cals are out and racking up miles aready!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwienburg View Post
    Trek X-Caliber 8 - 2014

    Specification
    Features
    29" wheels roll faster, ride better, clear more obstacles
    Alpha Gold Aluminium frame provides a fast, refined ride
    G2 Geometry: a better-handling 29er
    Backed by Trek's limited lifetime warranty
    Frameset
    Frame Alpha Gold Aluminium w/semi-integrated head tube, mechanically formed & butted tubing, race geometry, internal front derailleur routing, G2 Geometry
    Front suspension SR Suntour XCR-RL w/coil spring, preload, remote lockout, custom G2 Geometry w/51mm offset, 100mm travel (14.5": 80mm travel)
    Wheels
    Wheels Shimano RM66 centre lock alloy hubs w/Bontrager AT-650 32-hole double-walled rims
    Tires Bontrager XR1, 29x2.20"
    Drivetrain
    Shifters Shimano Deore, 10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano Deore
    Rear derailleur Shimano SLX Shadow
    Crank Shimano M522, 42/32/24
    Bottom bracket Cartridge
    Cassette Shimano HG62 11-36, 10 speed
    Pedals Wellgo nylon platform
    Components
    Saddle Bontrager Evoke 1.5
    Seatpost Bontrager SSR, 27.2mm, 12mm offset
    Handlebar Bontrager low-riser, 31.8mm, 15mm rise
    Stem Bontrager Race Lite, 31.8mm, 7 degree
    Grips Bontrager Race
    Headset 1-1/8" threadless, semi-integrated, semi-cartridge bearings
    Brakeset Shimano M395 hydraulic disc brakes

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    Where'd these specs come from? It doesn't have a Suntour. It has RockShox XC32

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    Quote Originally Posted by jod78 View Post
    Where'd these specs come from? It doesn't have a Suntour. It has RockShox XC32

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    may have to do with differing regions being offered different component sets

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    These new 2014 X-Cal bikes do NOT use the 2013 hydoformed frame. They use a mechanically formed frame. Every bike has a bike path Suntour or RST fork except the 9 level, which gets an air XC32. I would avoid these bikes for trails.
    The Superfly line now starts with a Recon Silver fork bike and goes up. All should be good.
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    It appears to me they just re badged the Wahoo, Mamba , Cobia which all shared the same frame in 2012- 2013. Click on the Alpha Gold link; "hydroforming", same Alpha Gold tubeset as before, just added internal RD routing.

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