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    2011 Trek Hi Fi Deluxe vs. 2011 Anthem X 29er

    I was set on getting a 2011 trek Hi Fi but was looking online on Giant's website and saw the new 2011 Anthem 29er and now I am soo confused. Does anybody have an opinion?

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    In my opinion one is a Trail bike with a comfort-oriented setup (9mm QR front) while the other is a XC, sport-oriented setup (15mm front Thru-Axle and tapered steerer). Horses for courses.

    Personally, I hate what Trek did with the 2011 Gary Fisher Collection color schemes. Also, the Trek frame warranty isn't as good as last year's Gary Fisher bikes.

    I like my 29er hardtail a lot but I'm still not convinced that a 29er full-squish bike is for me.

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    Smile Specialized Epic Comp 29er ($3000) or Camber Pro 29er ($2900)...

    Everyone has an opinion...

    Trek HiFi Deluxe ($2500) SLX/X.9 w/ X.7 3x10, G2 Fox Fork & RP2, Elixir 5 185/160s, Bonty Comps...


    Giant Anthem X 29 3 ($2350) SLX 3x10, Fox Fork & Maestro, Elixir 3 185/160s, Giant Comps


    My opinion (YMMV):
    Referencing Mediums, the HiFi vs. A-X29: TT: 23.5v23.4; ST: 17.5v18; HTA: 71v71; STA: 73.6v73; CS: 17.8v18.2; HT: 4.5v4.1; WB 44v43.5; SO 29.6v30.3
    Based on Geo (experience on similar bikes with similar geo) and Components and Aesthetics...
    HiFi...FTW!

    I would choose the S Epic Comp for XC- Race feel or S Camber Pro for XC- Trail...for budget: S Camber Elite...
    FWIW...IMO...YMMV...FTW!

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    I actually own a 2010 Hifi Plus and an Anthem X3 29er. There are several differences:

    1. Dyna-Sys. The Anthem X 29er uses Shimano's new 10 speed system. The Anthem X uses a complete Shimano Groupset for the shifters,deraiileurs and drivetrain.
    a. The Hifi uses a mixture of Shimano and SRAM parts
    b. The Hifi has a 9 speed system.
    c. Dynasis drive train is very smooth
    d But the Hifi Plus drive train is quite good but I would have to say that the Dynasis system is probably a little better.

    2. Riding Posture
    a. The Hifi bikes have a more upright stance than the Anthem X 29er's.
    b. I believe the Anthem X's pedaling position allows the rider to ride more efficiently.
    c. The lower stance is also very helpful when flying over rock gardens or catching serious air, i.e. making a 3 foot jump.

    3. Fork
    a. The Anthem X 29er uses a 15mm T/A
    b. The Hifi uses a 9mm q/r

    4. Tires
    a. Tires for both bikes suck if you're going to go through thick mud or a deep layer of fine dirt.

    5. Durability. Although I haven't thrashed the Hifi the way I've thrashed the Anthem it feels like a slightly burlier bike.

    6. Agility. I think the Anthem is a much more agile bike. I've equipped the Anthem x 29er with flats while leaving the Hifi clipless. However the Anthem feels very agile flying around corners. It's really my favorite bike to ride. I wouldn't say that the Hifi isn't agile but it isn't quite as tossable as the Anthem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mefistofeles
    I actually own a 2010 Hifi Plus and an Anthem X3 29er. There are several differences:

    1. Dyna-Sys. The Anthem X 29er uses Shimano's new 10 speed system. The Anthem X uses a complete Shimano Groupset for the shifters,deraiileurs and drivetrain.
    a. The Hifi uses a mixture of Shimano and SRAM parts
    b. The Hifi has a 9 speed system.
    c. Dynasis drive train is very smooth
    d But the Hifi Plus drive train is quite good but I would have to say that the Dynasis system is probably a little better.

    2. Riding Posture
    a. The Hifi bikes have a more upright stance than the Anthem X 29er's.
    b. I believe the Anthem X's pedaling position allows the rider to ride more efficiently.
    c. The lower stance is also very helpful when flying over rock gardens or catching serious air, i.e. making a 3 foot jump.

    3. Fork
    a. The Anthem X 29er uses a 15mm T/A
    b. The Hifi uses a 9mm q/r

    4. Tires
    a. Tires for both bikes suck if you're going to go through thick mud or a deep layer of fine dirt.

    5. Durability. Although I haven't thrashed the Hifi the way I've thrashed the Anthem it feels like a slightly burlier bike.

    6. Agility. I think the Anthem is a much more agile bike. I've equipped the Anthem x 29er with flats while leaving the Hifi clipless. However the Anthem feels very agile flying around corners. It's really my favorite bike to ride. I wouldn't say that the Hifi isn't agile but it isn't quite as tossable as the Anthem.
    How efficient is the anthem 29 mashing out of the saddle on the climbs? does it feel like a big bike due to chainstay length?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mefistofeles
    I actually own a 2010 Hifi Plus and an Anthem X3 29er. There are several differences:

    1. Dyna-Sys. The Anthem X 29er uses Shimano's new 10 speed system. The Anthem X uses a complete Shimano Groupset for the shifters,deraiileurs and drivetrain.
    a. The Hifi uses a mixture of Shimano and SRAM parts
    b. The Hifi has a 9 speed system.
    c. Dynasis drive train is very smooth
    d But the Hifi Plus drive train is quite good but I would have to say that the Dynasis system is probably a little better.

    2. Riding Posture
    a. The Hifi bikes have a more upright stance than the Anthem X 29er's.
    b. I believe the Anthem X's pedaling position allows the rider to ride more efficiently.
    c. The lower stance is also very helpful when flying over rock gardens or catching serious air, i.e. making a 3 foot jump.

    3. Fork
    a. The Anthem X 29er uses a 15mm T/A
    b. The Hifi uses a 9mm q/r

    4. Tires
    a. Tires for both bikes suck if you're going to go through thick mud or a deep layer of fine dirt.

    5. Durability. Although I haven't thrashed the Hifi the way I've thrashed the Anthem it feels like a slightly burlier bike.

    6. Agility. I think the Anthem is a much more agile bike. I've equipped the Anthem x 29er with flats while leaving the Hifi clipless. However the Anthem feels very agile flying around corners. It's really my favorite bike to ride. I wouldn't say that the Hifi isn't agile but it isn't quite as tossable as the Anthem.
    Thx for your review. Although the Trek wasn't one of my choices The Anthem X 29er is. Thx for the insight.

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    Thanks for the input. My only concern with the anthem is, like you said, the hifi seems to be a much burlier bike. As this is going to be my only bike I want to make sure it is versatile enough to handle everything I can through at it. While I do some XC races, it is not the only ridding I do and want to make sure the bike will be up to it all. The anthem seems more of a XC focus bike. What has been your experience with both bikes in this regard, and do you think the anthem can handle some light all mountain ridding.

    Thanks

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    haha Hi fi much burlier bike!

    thats funny you know how many chainstays those things have broken and continue to break to this day........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo
    Maestro is just a rip off of the DW Link. Giant can burn in hades, in my book.
    you are right, and that is the reason why they do rock.

    My bets is more people ride a giant made bike than any other bike. Cause they make everyone else's bikes for them....

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    Bushwacker needs to stop living in the past, I have yet to here of a broken chainstay on the 2010 or newer hifi. And the 2011 hifi that the op was interested in also does have a 10spd cassett. To many haters! I'm a big guy 220lbs and I ride the hell out of my 2010 hifi and it is hands down the most durable all-around xc oriented bike I've ever owned! My other two bikes now just collect dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
    haha Hi fi much burlier bike!

    thats funny you know how many chainstays those things have broken and continue to break to this day........
    The 2010+ HiFi's are much more sturdy than prior years. I have not seen or heard of many issues with the new frames. My friend and I have 2010 Pro's and have raced them all year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinshield
    The 2010+ HiFi's are much more sturdy than prior years. I have not seen or heard of many issues with the new frames. My friend and I have 2010 Pro's and have raced them all year.
    Could you say the weight and configuration of your hifi pro?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariosrm
    Could you say the weight and configuration of your hifi pro?

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    I don't have the Pro any more. I since got a 2011 deluxe and swapped all the parts as I wanted a larger frame. It's about 28 lbs. I just ordered some ZTR Arch wheels so it should end up being in the 27 lb range once put together. Parts are mostly XT with Elixer R brakes, thomson stem, post and Easton monkey-lite low rise bars.
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    Thanks, I am considering getting the pro but upgrading the wheels as well to the race x light, i hope it should be about the same..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariosrm
    Could you say the weight and configuration of your hifi pro?

    Thanks
    I have a 2010 HiFi Pro. Large. 2x9 with bashguard. ODI rogue grips. PG-980 11-34 cassette. WTB Pure V Pro saddle. Bonty 29-3 2.25 front and rear, set up tubeless with Bonty strips. Weighs an even 28 pounds without pedals.

    I have Flows/Hopes/SuperComps and IKONs on the way for springtime. Should be right around 27 pounds after the wheelset swap.

    My Paragon was 26 and change so I'm very happy with the bike!

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    thank you David

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    AX 29 25.5 lbs

    My bike is an upgraded AX3 and it is 25.5 w pedals! This is bad ass bike in all ways!

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    I recently picked up the HiFi Deluxe. Overall, I'm happy with the bike, and it does what I want on the trails I ride. The tires pretty much suck, but that's to be expected. I'm a shorter rider, and I like the geometry on the 15.5 HiFi. The Anthem was pretty nice too. IMO, the Anthem has a nicer fork with the 15mm, but the Deluxe has a bit better parts spec (and I prefer SRAM shifters).

    I was considering the same bikes you are, but it eventually came down to price. I picked up with Deluxe for 1999 pretax w/ a trail demo before buying, and the cheapest I could find on the X3 was 2300ish, and could only ride that around the parking lot.

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    I was considering the same bikes you are, but it eventually came down to price. I picked up with Deluxe for 1999 pretax w/ a trail demo before buying, and the cheapest I could find on the X3 was 2300ish, and could only ride that around the parking lot

    Although the Anthem X3 29er should be cheaper than a Hifi Deluxe in my opinion it's a better bike and worth the extra money. I spent $700 adding a maxle fork and wheel to my Hifi Plus so getting that t/a wheel and fork is definitely worth a few hundred extra dollars. The boost valve shock alone is also worth $300.

    If you objectively evaluate the Anthem X 29er you're getting a bike that's speced with suspension components are worth $1,000 more than what comes on a Hifi Deluxe or Plus. Unfortunately you wouldn't really notice the difference in suspension components in a parking lot,unless you're jumping off ramps or stairs.

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