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    2011 Sette Razzo 2.0 29er arrived today

    My bike arrived today and here are the first pics. I'll do a review in the coming weeks. I did take it for a short ride today and was very impressed with it. My god is this thing fast. I'll ride my Specialized Epic back to back with this to give anyone an idea of what they'll notice going from a 26" FS XC bike to to a No Name Brand HT 29er. I did not find anyone with a 2011 before I bought this so I figured that I'll share a little info for anyone thinking about getting one.

    Check out the first pics at my site

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    Looks pretty nice. I like the white and gray frame. Be sure to post up a review.
    Enjoy the ride!

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    So, one thing that you don't notice in the pictures on the companies website is that the frame is actually not white and gray. It is actually light gray and dark gray, the only thing that is white on the bike is the fork. I'll try to see if I can get it to come out better in pictures, it is definitely more apparent in person.

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    Some pics

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    wow, that's a sharp bike
    Rudy Projects look ridiculous

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    Thanks man.

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    good looking bike, I like the colors. And nice WIDE bars

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    Definitely a good looking bike and interested to see how she rides. Are those flat bars that came with it or just incredibly low rise? Looks like the setup is pretty good for the 2.0!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash
    Definitely a good looking bike and interested to see how she rides. Are those flat bars that came with it or just incredibly low rise? Looks like the setup is pretty good for the 2.0!
    Low rise bars.

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    good lord that seems like a ton of seatpost sticking out of the bike. it might just be the angle of the photo.
    What size frame did you get? how tall are you?

    looks like a very nice frame!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbchess
    good lord that seems like a ton of seatpost sticking out of the bike. it might just be the angle of the photo.
    What size frame did you get? how tall are you?

    looks like a very nice frame!
    The seatpost hadn't been adjusted at the time of the photo. It's a medium (18) and I'm 5-9

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    Great looking bike...and my new top contender!

    Is the fork a standard QR or 15 mm TA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpus
    Great looking bike...and my new top contender!

    Is the fork a standard QR or 15 mm TA?
    Standard QR.

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    What are your ride impressions so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbchess
    good lord that seems like a ton of seatpost sticking out of the bike.

    SEATPOST POLICE!


    That's the first thing my friends who don't ride say when they see my bikes...and I guess I say the same thing to people who ride with too low of a seatpost..not getting the correct leg extension
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    What tires are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaRider
    What tires are those?
    Kenda Small Block 8s.

    s760, great lookin bike man

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    Your garage is way too neat.
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    We come all the way over to your post and all you've got for us is Lite beer?


    I'm very tempted to get one of those frames...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim311
    Your garage is way too neat.
    His house looks brand new, probably doesn't have enough to clutter it up yet! Not only that but he lives in Texas, all the houses are bigger there..not to mention the real estate its built on!
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    Central vac AND a CRV??? Of course his garage is clean

    I don't think there's a nicer bike on the market for the money. WAY better looking than the old Razzo and BikesDirect stuff...

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    How is she?

    So how does this baby perform? I am really considering this or the other with the slx/xt. Anyone have opinions on the the extra $200 bucks for the shimano drivetrain and brakes?

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    Weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2

    I'm very tempted to get one of those frames...
    Whoa... That must be the cabin fever talking.....

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    Are you running tubes in those wheels? I have those rims too and looking to try tubeless this spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlk3454
    Are you running tubes in those wheels? I have those rims too and looking to try tubeless this spring.
    I converted the Mavic 719 tubeless last year using a split tubes. Worked fine. I'm guessing you shouldn't have issues with other methods either.

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    I just ordered a 2011 Sette Razzo 2.0 29er too. I just sold my 2004 Cannondale Jekyll 800 and can't wait to try out my new ht 29er. I think it will be a positive change for my adventure racing. I looked at many other bikes including Specialized Rockhopper pro and LTD 29er, Giant XTC 1/2, Scott Scale team and Elite, Trek/GF x-caliber, Felt, and Cannondale. A comparable package to the Sette would have cost $1800.00-$2000.00 plus tax. The Sette is $1335.00 delivered to my door. Yes, I would have received lifetime free tuneups, but I do all of my own bike work so it really didn't matter. I am a big supporter of my LBS but the savings was too big. Have you ridden it yet? I will report back on my first ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by advracer221
    A comparable package to the Sette would have cost $1800.00-$2000.00 plus tax. The Sette is $1335.00 delivered to my door..

    my scale elite was 1350$ but not delivered to my door.

    Very sharp bike though, and i have to admit that paint scheme outdoes most others. especially the old razzo and the bikesdirect. Got a weight on that bad boy?
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    BB height measurement?

    Hey OP:
    Their website shows a single measurement for BB height, and for head and seat tube angles, but this is a bit confusing because these measurements will change depending on the fork length. And of course, they don''t mention at which fork length these measurements were taken -- only saying only that 80-100mm is recommended.

    With that in mind, can you take these measurements? The unsagged BB height is of most interest to me, but if you have the Angle finder App on an iPhone, perhaps you can get seat tube and head tube angles as well?

    And oh yes -- that's an 80mm fork setting on yours, correct?

    Thanks for any help you can provide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by advracer221
    I just ordered a 2011 Sette Razzo 2.0 29er too. I just sold my 2004 Cannondale Jekyll 800 and can't wait to try out my new ht 29er. I think it will be a positive change for my adventure racing. I looked at many other bikes including Specialized Rockhopper pro and LTD 29er, Giant XTC 1/2, Scott Scale team and Elite, Trek/GF x-caliber, Felt, and Cannondale. A comparable package to the Sette would have cost $1800.00-$2000.00 plus tax. The Sette is $1335.00 delivered to my door. Yes, I would have received lifetime free tuneups, but I do all of my own bike work so it really didn't matter. I am a big supporter of my LBS but the savings was too big. Have you ridden it yet? I will report back on my first ride.
    For the $1299 I got my 2011 Trek X-Cal for, I think it was a better deal. If you compare the Sette to the MSRP of other bike brands, it's a great value, sure. I've found the Trek X-Calibers in local shops being sold for average of 1300-1400. At this price, I think the Sette loses some of it's value, and I would expect them to be a bit cheaper to compete. That's just me. Still looks like a great bike though.

    The Sette does have a few components that definitely stick out as being better than the X-Cal, but those are parts I plan on changing anyway. If you're not going to upgrade anything, it's something to consider.

    Brakes (I prefer Shimano)
    Wheels (Getting Easton Haven 29s)

    The Sette uses the 80mm Reba as opposed to the 100 on the X-Cal. I'm not sure if that's just internally limited with spacers like some of their forks or that's the max for that fork (Rockshox has way too many models). I prefer having the 100. Either way, I wish they specced more 29ers with thru-axles.

    It helped that I was able to ride the Trek and loved the way it felt/handled. The lifetime frame warranty matters to me since I've broke a frame (of another brand) before due to manufacturing/design defect and I was glad for the warranty.
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    Can we assume you've trimmed down that front brake hose?

    Nice pie-plate and reflectors though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboypilot
    What are your ride impressions so far?
    So, I have been riding this bike for a few months now and I have come away with some really good impressions. This is the best 29er that I could have gotten for the cost. This bike is extremely fast and stable. I demoed the Specialized Stumpjumper 29er a few times. After riding this bike for a few months, I have found that the Stumpjumper 29er is no better than the Sette. The only advantage of the Stumpjumper 29er is that it has a lifetime warranty on the frame which only really matters if you break it. I'm extremely happy with the purchase and would do it over again even if I had another thousand dollars to spend. I do plan on modifying the bike with higher end parts for weight, but see no need to upgrade the frame. Initially I thought I would swap out the frame for a name brand one, but after riding this, I see no need now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim311
    Your garage is way too neat.
    Jim, I have OCD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboypilot
    What are your ride impressions so far?
    Fast,Stable, Shifts great, durable, I crash way less often. I do notice it's not as scalpel like in the hairpins as my Specialized Epic 26 but the reward is more stability and technical prowess. It was a great trade-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdryver
    His house looks brand new, probably doesn't have enough to clutter it up yet! Not only that but he lives in Texas, all the houses are bigger there..not to mention the real estate its built on!
    Good guess, the house is brand new, but I do keep a neat garage. I can't work in clutter

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdefran
    So how does this baby perform? I am really considering this or the other with the slx/xt. Anyone have opinions on the the extra $200 bucks for the shimano drivetrain and brakes?
    I liked the color of the other version better and wanted to get that bike, but I didn't get it specifically because of the Shimano Drive Train. I hear the Shimano is good but I am building up a SRAM Turner 5-Spot and I wanted the parts to be interchangeable. I also wanted to try the 1:1 Shifting. I must say, now that I've tried it, I love it. Now, I have all SRAM and if I need to rob a bike for a part, I can if I'm in a jam.

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    No clue, been busy riding it. They say 26lbs with tubeless and there is a lot of room for weight loss but the bike rides pretty amazingly now, so it will be a while before I feel the need to mod it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlk3454
    Are you running tubes in those wheels? I have those rims too and looking to try tubeless this spring.
    Not yet, got the kit though. If I still lived back east, I'd have done the conversion with all the spare time off the bike. Here in Texas, we never stop ridin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbchess
    good lord that seems like a ton of seatpost sticking out of the bike. it might just be the angle of the photo.
    What size frame did you get? how tall are you?

    looks like a very nice frame!
    As a bike fitter I'll never understand these seatpost comments that get thrown out without ever seeing the rider standing beside their bike. The comment almost assumes the rider bought the wrong size bike.

    I have long legs and a short torso for my height, every bike I ride shows maximum seatpost extension and my bikes fit perfectly.

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    Looks good and fast! I actually like the somewhat plain white/gray color scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrenador
    Hey OP:
    Their website shows a single measurement for BB height, and for head and seat tube angles, but this is a bit confusing because these measurements will change depending on the fork length. And of course, they don''t mention at which fork length these measurements were taken -- only saying only that 80-100mm is recommended.

    With that in mind, can you take these measurements? The unsagged BB height is of most interest to me, but if you have the Angle finder App on an iPhone, perhaps you can get seat tube and head tube angles as well?

    And oh yes -- that's an 80mm fork setting on yours, correct?

    Thanks for any help you can provide.
    Hey, I don't want to give you measurements that are off. Shoot an email over to info@SetteBikes.com They have been really quick with any questions that I've had and should be able to give you measurements on all sizes of frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1
    For the $1299 I got my 2011 Trek X-Cal for, I think it was a better deal. If you compare the Sette to the MSRP of other bike brands, it's a great value, sure. I've found the Trek X-Calibers in local shops being sold for average of 1300-1400. At this price, I think the Sette loses some of it's value, and I would expect them to be a bit cheaper to compete. That's just me. Still looks like a great bike though.

    The Sette does have a few components that definitely stick out as being better than the X-Cal, but those are parts I plan on changing anyway. If you're not going to upgrade anything, it's something to consider.

    Brakes (I prefer Shimano)
    Wheels (Getting Easton Haven 29s)

    The Sette uses the 80mm Reba as opposed to the 100 on the X-Cal. I'm not sure if that's just internally limited with spacers like some of their forks or that's the max for that fork (Rockshox has way too many models). I prefer having the 100. Either way, I wish they specced more 29ers with thru-axles.

    It helped that I was able to ride the Trek and loved the way it felt/handled. The lifetime frame warranty matters to me since I've broke a frame (of another brand) before due to manufacturing/design defect and I was glad for the warranty.
    The fork is a 100, the spacers from the factory are 80. Considering that the Sette components are the same as a Specialized Stumpy 29er comp and the bike rides just a well, actually it feels a tad more compliant. The value here is insane. I could have afforded either bike but chose the Sette on a roll of the dice and won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    Can we assume you've trimmed down that front brake hose?

    Nice pie-plate and reflectors though!
    Nope too busy riding. I have tied it down to the fork though so it looks way less obnoxious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up
    As a bike fitter I'll never understand these seatpost comments that get thrown out without ever seeing the rider standing beside their bike. The comment almost assumes the rider bought the wrong size bike.

    I have long legs and a short torso for my height, every bike I ride shows maximum seatpost extension and my bikes fit perfectly.
    So true, what if I had been 6ft 8. The bike was freshly built and nothing had been adjusted yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s760@yahoo.com
    Nope too busy riding. I have tied it down to the fork though so it looks way less obnoxious.
    That long hose, reflectors, and pie plate just scream "Hi, I'm FRED and I'm new to cycling".

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    I can't tell from the website. Does the fork come with a lockout? I'm pretty dang interested in either a Razzo frame or a complete build. I do want a lockout on whatever fork I'm using though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    That long hose, reflectors, and pie plate just scream "Hi, I'm FRED and I'm new to cycling".
    I used to pull the pie plates first thing as they scream "FRED" but I bent a derailer hanger once and shifted the chain off the big cog into the spokes on a gnarly climb. It was with my bucks up custom set of wheels. Did a number on the spokes. Cha-ching to replace all the drive side spokes. I leave the pie plates on now, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s760@yahoo.com
    The fork is a 100, the spacers from the factory are 80. Considering that the Sette components are the same as a Specialized Stumpy 29er comp and the bike rides just a well, actually it feels a tad more compliant. The value here is insane. I could have afforded either bike but chose the Sette on a roll of the dice and won.
    I ordered a frame from a different mail order company back in the day and was told a certain BB height through their website and from what a guy read off a spec sheet over the phone, however the actual bikes had a 1/2" lower BB because of some apparent miscommunication along the lines. Measuring angles is a little more complicated, but getting a good approximation of the BB height is easy and quick by putting a ruler on the ground and eyeballing the center of the spindle hole in the crank

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    Pic, 2 months later.

    Sorry for the dark light in the garage. Didn't feel like opening the door. Brake cable adjusted, seat height adjusted and pie plate removed. I did get a white seat post and white handgrips with red and blue anodized clips.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36570216@N02/5509889611/" title="Untitled by formula1boy, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5509889611_0eee5eb85b_z.jpg" width="640" height="478" alt="" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodster
    I can't tell from the website. Does the fork come with a lockout? I'm pretty dang interested in either a Razzo frame or a complete build. I do want a lockout on whatever fork I'm using though.
    It did, but as with all Rock Shox, the lockout suxs. Better than nothing though.

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