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    2010 SJ FSR 29er

    Here's a bit of info on the new SJ FSR 29:

    130mm rear travel
    120mm front travel
    Tapered HT
    Hydroformed top-tube, down-tube, seat-tube
    Major Improvments in frame stiffness and rear end stiffness
    Cable routing on underside of top-tube for command post or other types of remote posts

    The bike pictured here is the expert model. There will also be a comp model with a 120mm reba maxle-light, and fox triad rear shock.

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    Hi,

    What has been done to increase the stiffness?
    Have the geometry numbers been changed at all?
    What rear shock comes on the Expert model? (Sorry, I didn't see the brain at first)
    When will it be in stores?
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    New question here. Do you know what the Head Tube Angle will be?

    Do you know what the Head Tube Angle will be?

    The current model has a 69.5° Head Tube Angle. http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...d=39189&eid=95
    I did a demo ride on it, and I felt like I had to steer too much on the uphills. (I liked everything else so much that I may get one anyway.)

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    That looks friggin great, thru axle too, finally.

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    Hope its stiffer with stiffer wheels and a higher BB would be nice.
    Looks alot better

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    Availability...

    Any idea as to potential availability date?
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    Ok, I will try to address some of the questions/points that have been made

    -The Expert model has a new brain shock that is designed by Specialized and produced by Fox.

    - The Comp model has a Fox triad shock that is tuned specifically for this bike (open setting, propedal setting, lock-out setting)

    -The mainframe stiffness has been increased thru the use of larger diameter hydroformed tubes, and a taperd HT. The rear end stiffness has been increased thru the use of a new 29er specific seatstay and yolk that is larger diameter.

    -The bike has a 69.5 degree HTA, but rides much more balanced than the previuos rocker bike. The bike doesn't have the sitting off the back feeling that was mentioned on the previous version. I know some people will get hung up on the HTA being on the slacker side, but you really need to ride the bike and get the feel of the total package. It is not sluggish by any means.

    -The bb height issue has been addressed. The new bike has 340mm bb and sits a litlte higher in the travel when cruising along. I have yet to have a pedal strike on mine.

    -I am not 100% sure on the availability date....I will try to report back with that.

    The bike is a blast to ride, and the re-design really pushes the bike further into the xc trailbike category. The descending and bump absorbing capabilites of the bike have dramatically increased.

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    Ohhh Thank God the BB is higher. My pedals look hammered from the low bb from the east coast rock gardens

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    Special SPAM........how tasty.......
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    I've 2008 models upgraded with new REBA '09 Maxle and 45mm rake.

    The HTA is absolutely PERFECT 69° with new REBA rake. GREAT for trail and AM riding on vertical and rough DH. I like it 10 times more than the steep angle of Niner (Sold because of this !).
    You see the G2 of Fisher is almost the same with 51mm rake for XC riding.

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    Please don' t steep the HTA !

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    Here's the comp:
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    Is the a different color then White for the expert. White is so played

    Did the chainstay length stay the same?
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    Makes sense to up the travel what with the new epic.

    The paint job on the comp looks sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M_S
    Makes sense to up the travel what with the new epic.

    The paint job on the comp looks sick.
    And 130mm is just begging someone to try it with a 135mm WB or the forthcoming 140mm Marz. I'm sure we'll see it done at some point

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    I like the look of it

    The HTA is a real winner for me

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    Modern forks get more offset, that's probably what put some life in the front end, using the same head tube angle.
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    thanks for posting - looks sweet!
    Curious - that seat tube angle looks seriously steep from those pics - is that b/c it is? ....or because the chainstay grew a bit making it look this way. What is the STA and Chainstay length anyway?

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    [QUOTE=sikocycles] White is so played



    HEY, bite your tongue.......... CF........

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    And 130mm is just begging someone to try it with a 135mm WB or the forthcoming 140mm Marz. I'm sure we'll see it done at some point
    I agree.......I actually really like this bike( as do I like quite a few Specy 29ers) my HUGE problem with Specialized is I just can't see paying the money thay are asking for some of these bikes...I've actually had a few bikes from Specialized over the past 22 years ( a couple of them were free ) My first REAL MTB was a 90 Hardrock...Anyway I think this bike will do really well and I completely agree that going with the 130 is a great move after introducing the Epic ( another great looking bike) but I'd take a Jet over it........CF.

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    Prices??? And is the shock offset to one side or what, having trouble seeing whats going on there. I'd like to know chainstay and wheelbase length as well, L and XL are long.

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    very nice

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    The shock is centered and in-line with the top-tube. The extension at the end of the shock wraps around both sides of the seattube.....just can't see it in the photo. Prices are not finalized yet.

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    No good White

    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    Is the a different color then White for the expert. White is so played

    Did the chainstay length stay the same?
    Looks great except for the color.............

    Can't wait to test ride one!

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    We may just have a winner here. I sold my '06 Stumpy FSR Expert early this year and moved to a HT 29er. Wanted to test the 29er waters. I drank the Koolaid and loved it. Want to get a FS 29er later this fall.

    2010 is looking real good for FS 29ers. Lots of great options.

    I really like the look of the Expert model. Waiting on prices and availability now...

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    Is there a possibIlity of REAR THROUGH AXLE 12MM?

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    Davidcopperfeild is NEVER PLEASED!!!

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    Chainstay length stays virtually the same even though the rear travel increases by 25mm over the 08-09 version.

    08/09: 448mm chainstay length
    2010: 449mm chainstay length

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    I actually like the looks of last years model more, maybe because I just bought an 09. IMO, you did not need to increase the rear travel at all. 105 for that bike seems more than enough.

    Maybe you need to move this bike into the enduro line up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee
    Looks great except for the color.............

    Can't wait to test ride one!
    The colors are awesome!!!! I want one.

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    Geometry chart? Will there be a xxl? If so I'll take the comp!

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    Will ther be a xxl this year? How about a geometry chart?

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    [QUOTE=CRAZY FRED]
    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    White is so played



    HEY, bite your tongue.......... CF........
    Gotcha

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    How about the hardtail stumpies? So far we have only seen the s-works.

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    ... and what about rear wheel travel / shock travel work ?
    The MY 2008/09 was 105/38 = 1 : 2.8 a little bit hard for trail bike.
    I used an Evolve and Titus that is 1 : 2 and work very well, nice feeling.

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    Thats true. My fsr rides much harsher the my lunchbox. It would make it a better trail bike if it was a little plusher

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    Nice looking bike. But why do they always have to post pics of "small" frame sized bikes. They look so out of proportion with the 29er wheels.
    Post up some L and XL pics of the bikes that are actually being ridden on the trails.

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    Sexiness !
    Finally, a production bike with a decent HA.

    Thanks Speshy. It's at the top of my list for next year.

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    Looks like it's gonna be a nice bike, though I've never really felt the need for another inch of travel on my 08 FSR 29er. Between Turner, Niner, and now Specialized, seems like everyone is feeling the need to enduro-ize their 4" travel models.

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    This bike is a winner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D_Man
    Looks like it's gonna be a nice bike, though I've never really felt the need for another inch of travel on my 08 FSR 29er. Between Turner, Niner, and now Specialized, seems like everyone is feeling the need to enduro-ize their 4" travel models.
    I'm glad I got the visually understated woods green 08 model, great mountain xc bike, like the way the it just rails narrow singletrack, wonder if the higher BB and higher COG with the shock up on the top tube will lose some of that stability?
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    With 130mm of travel on 29er it is advisable to offer 12mm maxle threaded fitment. On the front you get 20mm stiff and dandy whereas on the rear where there is a plethora of twisting forces one gest 9mm flimsy road-bike-standard instead. Is there a reasonable policy behind that? The price range strikes at mavens' category anyway, so what's the heck ? Wheel compatiblity to grab a wheel from rigid geared Karate Monkey.

    Come on Specilalized do we have to wait for 2011 version just to be able to purchase a one damn good flawless package? You get exclusively made shocks and forks so what's the trouble to design a light and stiff 50-60 gram rear Maxle-axle 12mm. I am sure that many of us will appreciate the added stiffness. We shan't express too much weightweenism I promise at 130mm AM bike category.

    If there is a reason not to go with 12mm please someone stand up and explain it to me

    Just my 0.02$. Your mileage may vary.

    ps. What about the carbon version ? there is a carbon 160mm Nomad so why not a 130mm 29er? 2009 and 10 are the years of carbon dioxide

    One more thing You need 51mm offsets on those forks for fast handling. 69hta with 44-46mm is not enough- your trail numbers will oscilate around 90mm, which is about at least 10mm too much. Not that it is bound to ride badly, but you know- noone likes trade-offs when coming off 26ers.

    Edit:
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    http://www.kogswell.com/geo.php and to get 82mm of trail you must have 55 offset and 69 HTA. and with 69.5' 53mm offset to get 81mm of trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Sexiness !
    Finally, a production bike with a decent HA.

    Thanks Speshy. It's at the top of my list for next year.
    Squeaky we need to have a talk..... Truth be told I really really like this bike...CF..

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    got to ride this bike the other day....it rips, and its super plush and fun!
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    Compare it to the "09", give us something.

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    It has the link like the 2010 stumpy, more travel in the front and rear, its super plush. Its a fast fun trail bike. Let me get all the specs before i comment further. I am sure there are 2 models, and there might possibly be a 3rd trim spec.
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    2010 Fsr

    Quote Originally Posted by jut8
    It has the link like the 2010 stumpy, more travel in the front and rear, its super plush. Its a fast fun trail bike. Let me get all the specs before i comment further. I am sure there are 2 models, and there might possibly be a 3rd trim spec.
    Did you demo the Comp or Expert?

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    fox and their goddamn 15mm axle leaves something to be desired on the bike. Give me a reba maxle with a brain in the back and I will be happy... industry politics.
    also, this is nitpicky, but why does specialized have to make all their anodize trim that copper/bronze color, i.e. on this bike notice the banjo on the elixir calipers is no longer red, but special brown; and then they go and put the red monster X.O on the back of an otherwise pleasantly neutral bike. just leave it red, after all, isn't the logo, hmm, red?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidcopperfield
    On the front you get 20mm stiff and dandy whereas on the rear where there is a plethora of twisting forces one gest 9mm flimsy road-bike-standard instead. Is there a reasonable policy behind that?
    Newer Shimano XT/XTR rear hubs have 14mm axels. We can only hope.

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    The Brain is back.

    I wonder how smart its gotten over the years. The trouble I've had with brains in the past is the lack of quick adjustability. It just wasn't smart enough to think for itself and getting off the bike to adjust it every time I went from a long climb to a long decent and so on....was getting old.

    The newer version does seem to be a major improvement over previous models. MUCH stiffer I would say and longer travel And it is nice to have more than one choice now for us XXL riders.

    DC, As I did with my Sultan, you can always go with a Hadley rear TA hub. I think it helps.

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