“Single speed gear ratios, what do you find works best”
I have asked this question several times and everyone says by extra cogs and test them out to see which is best. So I started looking around and found this website
I copied the following posts and was wondering what all you guys think? Keep in mind I am a novice and just barely ride my bike. Started riding again at age 62 after not riding since I was 16, so take it easy on me fellas;
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use this equation when calculating ratios it really helps...
divide your front chain ring (teeth) by the rear cog (teeth) then multiply by your wheel size.
for example mine is 36/16x26 = 58.5
a 55 is perfect for me... just some equation some brits showed me to calculate it all into a single number...
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aside from personal preference take the size of your sprocket multiply it by your wheel size then divide that by the size of your rear freewheel and you get your gear ratio. Ideal ratio is 55, not sure if this is totally true but I saw it on a bmx website a while back.
Ex. 30t sprocket X 26" ÷ 15t freewheel = 52
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YES. USE THE FORMULA, YALL! IT'S EASY.
The single number is called "gear inches." It means how far your bike rolls with one exact 360 degree rotation of your cranks. So it is essential to factor in wheel size when picking your gears.
The reason 55 gear inches is considered classic is that 44/16 was the classic gear ratio on BMX bikes for like 20 years (which comes out to 55 gear inches).... On race tracks you need it to be spinny enough to get in front of everyone when the gate drops, but still powerful enough to stay fast throughout the track to win the race. People would sometimes do 43/16 or 45/16 but that was pretty much it.
With 26" wheels, 34-16, 32-15, 30-14, 28-13, 26-12 are all optimal all-around single speed gear ratios. Note that it just happens to be double the rear cog plus 2.
If your looking for suggestions, you may want to include the type of riding you are doing. I know from reading one of your other posts that you only ride on the road. This obviously makes a huge difference!!
If your looking for suggestions, you may want to include the type of riding you are doing. I know from reading one of your other posts that you only ride on the road. This obviously makes a huge difference!!
You are correct David. So I did the math and the results were 32tX29"/16t= 58 so is the higher the number the harder the ride or vise versa? I like the ride that I have now just wanted to get more speed and less huffandpuff against the wind. The wind I find is the biggest problem with riding on flat roads. Small inclines are to be expected.
Wow this gear ratio stuff can get real complicated real fast! Length of cranks makes a difference. I don't even know the length of my crank arm. Its not on the spec sheet of the bicycle, anybody know? 09 Monocog 29er stock?
You are correct David. So I did the math and the results were 32tX29"/16t= 58 so is the higher the number the harder the ride or vise versa? I like the ride that I have now just wanted to get more speed and less huffandpuff against the wind. The wind I find is the biggest problem with riding on flat roads. Small inclines are to be expected.
Well, you're not going to get both speed and easy pedaling. Not with a singlespeed.
Don't worry overmuch about gear inches and crank arms and that stuff. Just look at your current gearing: it's 32 x 16. To make pedaling easier (but slower), increase the rear cog in size (for example, to 18t). To make pedaling harder (but faster), decrease the rear cog (to 15t say) I'm suggesting changing the rear cog because it's easier and cheaper than changing the front, but you could change the front instead. It's the opposite direction, though: a bigger chainring = harder/faster, a smaller chainring = easier/slower.
WTB: fatbike wheelset: 170 rear, 135 front w/ rear hub spaced disc (Mukluk style) FS: ERB (Slingshot) Bike
Hey thanks a million for all the good info especially that explaination SeatBoy that was what I really wanted to know! Everyone here has really helped me a great deal.
BTW for those that are interested I went to another forum called Two Spokes and tried to ask questions and a person posting by Industry Hack jumped my case and said because my 29er had Big Apples that I wasn't on the same page as mountian bikers. I agree with that but that was not my question, at any rate they started deleting my posts and questions. So a word to the wise stay away from that forum if you don't want to be treated like crap. I sure am glad I came back here where everyone here has went out of their way to be helpful!!
He is riding an '09 Monocog 29 if I read correctly, I have a Raleigh SS 29 and when I am smooth pavement riding my gearing is 33 front 16 rear. I find that very good for maintaing a good cruising speed with out spinning yourself out peddling. If tires are factored in with that I was running 47c Kenda hybrid tires (so I dont wear out my knobbies)
Only you can really determine what is the right gear. The variables of fitness, and terrain as given are too abstract with the information provided.
Gear inches isn't the rollout either; it's the theoretical diameter of the wheel with a given gear ratio.
Unfortunately the internet brings out the worst in some people.
As was already pointed out...best thing to do is experiment with different cogs to find out what works best for you. Some guys will even go so far as to bring their cogs, chain whip, and lockring tool out on the trail with them so they can test out cogs back to back. As for myself...even tough it is easy I am still too lazy to swap my gearing around. I found a "magic ratio" that pretty much works for me on all of the trails in my area. It allows me a mid 11mph avg on the long flat/rooty crap at a reasonable cadence and is still somewhat tolerable on long steep climbs.
You can usually find a multi pack of the stamped steel cogs for pretty cheap. It does not take a ton of cash to tinker around with your gearing. Good luck and have fun!
Its really trial and error plus the longer you do this you refine it and as you gain single speed fitness and experience this changes things too.
Here's a little personal history. I started on a 32, 19 and felt it was too tough and went to a 20 and then a 21. Even on the 21 I wasn't making climbs I wanted to so I went to a 33 upfront. Still wasn't making the climbs and went back to the 20 and then I started making some of the climbs some of the time. After giving it some thought I decided the problem was I needed to climb faster so my legs would not fatigue out and stall so I went to 19 still with the 33 up front. Bingo! Not only was I climbing like a mountain goat but I was nailing the climbs almost every time. Now I just went to an 18 in the back and it feels even better. If I could find a Boone 34 104mm chainring I would be all over that too. All of this took place over a year and half of riding a single speed 29er. I do think the 34/18 will be the "magic bullet" for a while.
It depends on the type of trail, how technical, how fit you are, etc etc.
I find that in Dallas I can clear every trail on a 34x20 29er, sometimes I wish I had a 34x17 or a 34x21. In single speed you are always on the wrong gear.
With my set up, climbs, technical section and twisty single track are my friend, long straight aways are the enemy as I can only go up to 130rpm effectively.
I just moved and find that my single speed set up is to "easy" for Mcallen, so I am going up on the ratio to a 34x18 or 17.
Some people here like the 22x12 or 22x11 set up which is a mechanical aberration...
At least in my ~1 month of trying SS'ing out on a 29er. Rode almost exclusively on-road with the standard knobbie tires & started out with the stock 32/18 & eventually ended at 33/12 & still wasn't satisfied. But riding only road certainly make things easier as far as gearing selection goes. Still not for me. I'll stick to gears. IGH to be specific.
But +1 ...
Originally Posted by Leethal
What works best really is dependent on your fitness and your terrain nothing else..
Dude, you moved to Mcallen? That's where a UT is, right? No offense but you're going downhill bad. Start moving northwards.
I just started SSing in Colorado and went with a 32x21 based on local input. Two of my friends in flattish Kansas City run 32x16s and 34x16s. It all depends on how strong you are but for my first SS, 32x21 is a good start- I may stick with it. I know guys who run 32x18 here but they also big-ring some pretty steep climbs on their gearies so take it easy till you really feel it is too easy.
Disclaimer: I'm about as much of a SS newbie as one gets, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express earlier this year.
get yourself 3x consecutive chainrings and 3 - 4 x consecutive cogs and you will be all set.
ie: 32, 33, 34 and 18, 19, 20, 21. that'll give you the perfect spread to play with depending on your terrain. you probably don't even need that much really. see the chart:
OK here is what I came up with by using an Excel spreadsheet using the formula above. It also seems to be a relative inexpensive change to make. I currently have a 32/16 gear ratio using the above formula would give me 58". So I plugged in all sprocket sizes from 24 to 42 and I came up with a 34/18 being the closest ratio of 54.78 to the supposedly magic number of 55.
Now the only problem is I'm not sure what size that chainring in on my monocog. I looked it over and could not find the size imprinted in the ring. is it 110mm, 90mm ?? Any ideas. BTW it looks like both those parts are less than $30 bucks.
get yourself 3x consecutive chainrings and 3 - 4 x consecutive cogs and you will be all set.
ie: 32, 33, 34 and 18, 19, 20, 21. that'll give you the perfect spread to play with depending on your terrain. you probably don't even need that much really. see the chart:
Wow goes to show how great minds work alike! Thanks Jacques!
55" a magic number on the road? That seems awfully short. I ride 78-82" on the road and there are lots of hills here (usually I climb 2500 feet in every 60km of riding).
Off road I ride and race with 51".
My rides:
Lynskey Ti Pro29 SL singlespeed
KHS Team 29
S-Works Roubaix SL3 Dura Ace
Pake French 75 track
55" a magic number on the road? That seems awfully short. I ride 78-82" on the road and there are lots of hills here (usually I climb 2500 feet in every 60km of riding).
Off road I ride and race with 51".
Hey Serious, Those are not my numbers! If you read the thread that was someone else's numbers based on a Penny Farthing I think he said. Whatever that is? Anyway where in hell are you riding that the rise at 2500 feet in 60km? Is that a continuous uphill ride? You must have leg muscles like and elephant! Anyway I admire you for your skills. Like I said at first I am just a novice starting off after 40 years of not riding! Someday I might ride 60 km before I die!
I ride in Toronto (in a suburb called Richmond Hill) and although there are no sustained climbs here (longest climbs are less than 2 km), there is not much flat riding either.
I race on a singlespeed mtb a lot, so I am in better shape than the average rider.
My rides:
Lynskey Ti Pro29 SL singlespeed
KHS Team 29
S-Works Roubaix SL3 Dura Ace
Pake French 75 track