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    wanted ztr 355 650b rim

    just like a lot of people, looking to buy a rim.

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    I'm pretty certain that I saw a reply by Kirk Pacenti on a thread the other day stating that there would be 355's available, and to call Stan's. Can't remember which thread it was, but you might just give them a call.

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    just talked to Peter at N. T. this morning. nothing available

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    Why are folks so obsessed with Stan's? American Classics are about as light and are stiffer. I use to run Stan's now my 29er and my 650b are AC shod...

    http://www.bikebling.com/ProductDeta...c-650B-XC-Disc
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaGoat
    Why are folks so obsessed with Stan's? American Classics are about as light and are stiffer. I use to run Stan's now my 29er and my 650b are AC shod...

    http://www.bikebling.com/ProductDeta...c-650B-XC-Disc
    OP is looking for a rim. AC is only available as a wheelset?

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    have had AC wheels-great rims. have SUN equalizer 650b-are good. stans tubeless bst is hard to beat for ease/reliability for tubeless. need a match for my front 355 650b. trying 650b front and back this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russqj
    just like a lot of people, looking to buy a rim.

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    Sent you an e-mail.
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    Looking

    I'd be interested in one hoop as well if someone comes across them. I have one extra but would like a pair just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowbike
    OP is looking for a rim. AC is only available as a wheelset?
    Yeah, and why not buy a wheelset? OK, they're expensive. Got it!

    But if you want something that works REALLY well, you buy an AC set for $600, rip it all apart and string it with a Lefty front hub and a DTSwiss 240 rear free wheel setup for 10mm RWS. It cost you another $200, so you sell the AC hubs for $75 a piece and you have a killer setup for $650...

    The thing I like about the AC rims is they are 3/8" deeper profile which means shorter spokes and a stiffer wheel.

    Believe me, I've been down this rabbit hole and yeah, I got it, expensive!
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    Ditto here

    I'd like to find one also to be able to use w/ Paul v brakes. Appreciate a pm if someones hoarding some surplus. I'd like to help them w/ their addiction.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    I have a Stans 650b 355, new in box. Update, Sold.
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    still looking for a rim.

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    The alternative...

    Here's the set of AC's I had done. Came out sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    I'd like to find one also to be able to use w/ Paul v brakes. Appreciate a pm if someones hoarding some surplus. I'd like to help them w/ their addiction.
    Same here. There is a real shortage of decent, dirt-worthy 650b rims that are v-brake compatible. There is the Velocity Synergy but only available in silver now. Would love to see something like the Sun Rhyno Lite in 650b. Or bring back the ZTR 355!

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    Those are nice looking wheels. Why doesn't AC just sell just the hoops? Kinda b.s. if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DekerfTeamST
    Those are nice looking wheels. Why doesn't AC just sell just the hoops? Kinda b.s. if you ask me.
    I hear ya... I have never approached them about selling just a rim. Worth a shot I guess...

    I assume they figure they optimize their profits doing a wheelset. In these economic times I guess I can't fault them for optimizing profits.

    Again, the thing I like about the AC Rims is they are a taller profile, making the spokes shorter and the wheel stiffer. I particularly noticed this on the 29er rims. Not sure the 650b is quite as tall a profile as the 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaGoat
    I hear ya... I have never approached them about selling just a rim. Worth a shot I guess...

    I assume they figure they optimize their profits doing a wheelset. In these economic times I guess I can't fault them for optimizing profits.

    Again, the thing I like about the AC Rims is they are a taller profile, making the spokes shorter and the wheel stiffer. I particularly noticed this on the 29er rims. Not sure the 650b is quite as tall a profile as the 29er.

    My 2 cents.
    My LBS checked into it a bit and they won't even sell a rim for a repair of their wheelsets let alone sell a single rim. You have to send the wheels back to AC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DekerfTeamST
    My LBS checked into it a bit and they won't even sell a rim for a repair of their wheelsets let alone sell a single rim. You have to send the wheels back to AC.
    What a stupid business policy, I will avoid them in the future. Very greedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salimoneus
    What a stupid business policy, I will avoid them in the future. Very greedy.
    I agree. Maybe someone should send them this thread. They could probably sell a bunch of 650b rims. I'd consider them myself if I could get just rims.

    This is from their FAQ section;

    Why doesnít American Classic sell individual rims?We are often asked this question. Our rims are lightweight and can be difficult to build. We handle all wheel rebuilds in-house because our experienced wheel builders maintain our quality standards. Sorry, we do not make exceptions to this rule.

    http://www.amclassic.com/en/faq.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by DekerfTeamST
    We are often asked this question. Our rims are lightweight and can be difficult to build. We handle all wheel rebuilds in-house because our experienced wheel builders maintain our quality standards. Sorry, we do not make exceptions to this rule.
    Wow, that is pretty lame... they are trying to convince me that they have the only "experienced" wheel builders in the world? I think Dan Swinton and a whole ton of other wheelsmiths out there would take exception to THAT!

    Dan's "rewired" a number of AC's for me and I have nothing but great rides out of them. Maybe AC needs to hire him!
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    That is absurd.

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    hmm.

    Those rims look an awful lot like Alex rims...

    They can be had for what? Less than $40.
    That would leave plenty of cash for a solvent to remove the glue from the stickers

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie
    Those rims look an awful lot like Alex rims...

    They can be had for what? Less than $40.
    That would leave plenty of cash for a solvent to remove the glue from the stickers
    Uhmmm is right... did a quick look see and the dimensions are the same 24w/19h... ERD is a little different 566 vs 563... Not sure they are the exact same rim, but they are a similar design. Not sure about the weight either, but is probably a great alternative.

    The Stans is a lower profile at 24w/17w which equates to 1/16 of inch longer spokes on the radius or 1/8" across the diameter. Not that much to be too concerned about I would think.

    For comparison the AC 29ers are 26w/23h... now you are talking 1/4" on the radius or a 1/2" shorter spokes across the diameter. I've definitely felt that 1/2" on my 29er.

    And the Velocity blunts? 28w/20h... taller and wider... but I think a wee bit heavier too.
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    Try $28..........

    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie
    Those rims look an awful lot like Alex rims...

    They can be had for what? Less than $40.
    That would leave plenty of cash for a solvent to remove the glue from the stickers
    Having it built up now. Similar but a little taller profile, probably more compared to the AC. As for stickers, probably won't need much solvent as mine had some delam of the clear over sticker out of box. They are going to work fine.

    Just called back yesterday to order another hoop and was told they were out of stock. It appears I may have got the last. So for now I will be running mis-matched along with a WTB Laser up front. Waiting on a 2.1 Neo arriving Thursday.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    Waiting on a 2.1 Neo arriving Thursday.
    I probably should have gone with the Neo's, but I decided to wait on the new Schwalbe 650b to be released. They say mid-February, but we all know how that goes. If it gets too close to March, I'm going with Pacenti....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaGoat
    I probably should have gone with the Neo's, but I decided to wait on the new Schwalbe 650b to be released. They say mid-February, but we all know how that goes. If it gets too close to March, I'm going with Pacenti....
    Haven't heard anything of a new Schwalbe?

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    Schwalbe......

    Quote Originally Posted by DaGoat
    I probably should have gone with the Neo's, but I decided to wait on the new Schwalbe 650b to be released. They say mid-February, but we all know how that goes. If it gets too close to March, I'm going with Pacenti....
    Just pronouncing them sounds pricey!
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    Just pronouncing them sounds pricey!
    ... Ya got that right... course as I say; Light, Durable, Cheap... pick two! Schwalbe's DEFINITELY aren't cheap!

    As for the NEW tire... not sure how new they really are, but I believe the 650b Racing Ralph is now available in the Tubeless Ready construction (vs. EVO) and they've switched to the "Pacestar" compounds (boy, doesn't that sound like a marketers wet dream... Pacestar!)

    But wait I will for Light and Durable...

    http://smtp.schwalbetires.com/node/1785
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    Having it built up now. Similar but a little taller profile, probably more compared to the AC. As for stickers, probably won't need much solvent as mine had some delam of the clear over sticker out of box. They are going to work fine.

    Just called back yesterday to order another hoop and was told they were out of stock. It appears I may have got the last. So for now I will be running mis-matched along with a WTB Laser up front. Waiting on a 2.1 Neo arriving Thursday.
    Where are you getting the 2.1 Neo from? I am having difficulting finding them.

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    Reveal my source?......

    Quote Originally Posted by lml427
    Where are you getting the 2.1 Neo from? I am having difficulting finding them.
    Private party. But have another source I may divulge after my order arrives correctly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    Private party. But have another source I may divulge after my order arrives correctly!
    My timing stinks! I had just purchased a 2.1 Neo-Moto directly from Merry Sales $70, plus shipping, (they did a retail sale because no shop around me had an account with them). Two hours later Universal Cycle e-mailed me that the 2.1 Neo was available. I had been on the watch list for almost two months. It was too late to cancel. Gotta thank MS for selling it to me, but that price hurts.

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    Ditto that

    Quote Originally Posted by lml427
    My timing stinks! I had just purchased a 2.1 Neo-Moto directly from Merry Sales $70, plus shipping, (they did a retail sale because no shop around me had an account with them). Two hours later Universal Cycle e-mailed me that the 2.1 Neo was available. I had been on the watch list for almost two months. It was to late to cancel. Gotta thank MS for selling it to me, but that price hurts.
    Keep in mind that was incl tax & ship. So for me that's about $54 ea. We could have saved $6 per tire if ordered 2. (I think min shipping was $12 for a pair)

    Good to know Universal is stocked again, think all the supply houses that carry were getting shipments as of Jan 28th. So supply is back up, that mean sale prices will be....down??
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    Keep in mind that was incl tax & ship. So for me that's about $54 ea. We could have saved $6 per tire if ordered 2. (I think min shipping was $12 for a pair)

    Good to know Universal is stocked again, think all the supply houses that carry were getting shipments as of Jan 28th. So supply is back up, that mean sale prices will be....down??
    I did not realize it included shipping. Thanks.
    I had planned on ordering a 2.1 and 2.3 (MS was out of stock), 32oz Stans and new Atac cleats all in one order with discount and free shipping. Thats why timing was bad.
    Its all good though, just wanted to get word out that there out there.

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    I may be selling my brand new King/355 through axle wheelset.

    So the elephant in the room... anyone else getting tired of the lack of (decent) supply of 650b tires and rims? Gotta sinking feeling in my stomach... I feel like I'm trying to find stuff that hasn't been made in 50 years half the time....doesn't bode well imo. At this point, even though I *love* 650b, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone in good faith... in case I see them a few years down the road and they can't get tires and rims.

    -Schmitty-

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    shushhh

    Quote Originally Posted by lml427
    I did not realize it included shipping. Thanks.
    I had planned on ordering a 2.1 and 2.3 (MS was out of stock), 32oz Stans and new Atac cleats all in one order with discount and free shipping. Thats why timing was bad.
    Its all good though, just wanted to get word out that there out there.
    On getting word out til I Ger my other tire.
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    Nice to see mention of the 650b 355 back in this thread. Don't be afraid to start new threads to discuss tires.

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    Stock up then

    Quote Originally Posted by Schmitty
    I may be selling my brand new King/355 through axle wheelset.

    So the elephant in the room... anyone else getting tired of the lack of (decent) supply of 650b tires and rims? Gotta sinking feeling in my stomach... I feel like I'm trying to find stuff that hasn't been made in 50 years half the time....doesn't bode well imo. At this point, even though I *love* 650b, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone in good faith... in case I see them a few years down the road and they can't get tires and rims.

    -Schmitty-
    But I doubt the other tire manufacturers would be coming out with 650 if not done market research. Like Spec, Giant etc. getting on the 29r bandwagon late.
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    neo 2.1

    Ebikestop has 'em. 2 gets you free shipping. Want to spread the good word, and if everyone buys these things, then the number cruncher dudes will take notice and make us more cool tires.

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    Anorher new source

    Quote Originally Posted by loamshreder
    Ebikestop has 'em. 2 gets you free shipping. Want to spread the good word, and if everyone buys these things, then the number cruncher dudes will take notice and make us more cool tires.
    Cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by 202cycle
    Nice to see mention of the 650b 355 back in this thread. Don't be afraid to start new threads to discuss tires.
    This hint was apparently missed.

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    Start one

    Quote Originally Posted by salimoneus
    This hint was apparently missed.
    That be great. Post up and we'll add to it.
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    Really.

    Quote Originally Posted by salimoneus
    What a stupid business policy, I will avoid them in the future. Very greedy.
    You could ask a similar question of WTB, as they do not sell a 650 wheelset, only rims!

    Not bashing WTB either, as I ordered a hoop and had a wheel built last month, and ordered another today.
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