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    Sad news. Yesterday I cracked my rollik 607 frame. I was doing a 5.5-6 foot drop to rock landing in Bend, OR. It was a big feature. I landed slightly past the sweet spot (not quite a huck to flat, but not a super smooth landing either), bottomed out the rear shock, and it ended up cracking the frame at the seat tube, right below the upper link. The crack allowed the rear tire to contact the seat tube, causing the bike to stop dead in its tracks. It pitched me over the bars, but I was able to tuck and roll and only walk away with a few bruises. It was a big drop, and while it wasn't a huck to flat, it was still a big impact and would have gently bottomed out most bikes. I've done bigger drops on other bikes before, but this WAS a hard landing. It was enough to almost bottom out my 160mm fork.



    My carbon wheels were 100% fine and i didn't ruin anything else. I'm theorizing, but I think the suspension design, with the linear/regressive last bit of travel may allow bottom outs to be harsher than some other suspension designs. This design may necessitate running a larger volume spacer than I'm used to.


    Prior to this (it's 2 months old), there weren't any sign of cracking, no weird noises, and no weird behavior (ive been very diligent about inspecting it). I haven't crashed this bike ever (including this drop) and I've never ditched the bike or bailed out and sent the bike flying. I've hit about 15 4-5 foot drops, and several 10+ foot gap jumps on this bike with zero issues. This g-out was the only damage to the bike I've had.

    I was running 110% of my weight (200psi), with the stock volume spacer. I'm running a 2.5 wt rear tire on a 36mm rim (not that the tire matters, but it didn't contact the seat tube till after the crack). I wonder if running a larger volume spacer would have prevented this. In 20 years of riding, I've never tacoed a wheel, broke a frame, trashed a rim, snapped a derailleur, or broken any other major component. I'm pretty easy on gear, but lately I've been pushing the size of the obstacles I hit, and this one must have been the perfect storm between not enough volume reducers and too flat of a landing. This was the first time I've felt the rear shock bottom out. Before this, I'd use all the travel from time to time, but never feelt a hard stop. Most rides I end up using all but the last 3mm of stroke. After this landing, the ring was at the very end of the shaft. I'm not sure if I felt a hard bottom out with the shock, or if I felt the tire hitting the seat tube hard after it snapped.

    Spot has been amazing to work with, and they'll be sending me a replacement front triangle, along with a new upper link design that is meant to reduce stress on the seat tube in the event of a hard landing like this.

    I don't feel like most people will ever stress their bikes to this level, and I don't feel like people need to worry about their frames, but its worth mentioning in this thread.

    For those out there who are hitting big gaps and drops, make sure your rear shock is totally dialed (especially the last bit of travel) and take it easy if you might have a really harsh landing

    I accept responsibility for not dialing in my rear shock perfectly, and for hitting big features on this bike. I've never had a frame design that didn't get super progressive at the end of its stroke, and I've never had to add volume spacers before either. This failure may have been 100% user error on my part, and it may have been 100% preventable by running more volume reducers. I don't know exactly what caused it, or what would have prevented it.

    All in all, I'm surprised it cracked, but it was a hard landing. I'm really impressed with how spot is handling the replacement. They're great guys and their first priority was my safety. I'll report back on the new upper link design once I've got some time on my new frame. I'm glad to see them taking a proactive approach to improving their frame design for people like me, and I'm glad to be back on my Rollik soon. This bike is still my favorite bike I've ridden. I'm hopeful that the new upper link will allow me to continue going big on the bike without fear of ruining anything.

    I wish mtbr were easier to add pics from my phone. I'll edit this post to include pictures of the drop and damage shortly.

    I look forward to trying out the new upper link and continuing to ride my rollik on some of the best technical trails I can find. I'm also going to experiment with bigger volume spacers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstringsteve View Post
    Sad news. Yesterday I cracked my rollik 607 frame. I was doing a 5.5-6 foot drop to rock landing in Bend, OR. It was a big feature. I landed slightly past the sweet spot (not quite a huck to flat, but not a super smooth landing either), bottomed out the rear shock, and it ended up cracking the frame at the seat tube, right below the upper link. The crack allowed the rear tire to contact the seat tube, causing the bike to stop dead in its tracks. It pitched me over the bars, but I was able to tuck and roll and only walk away with a few bruises. It was a big drop, and while it wasn't a huck to flat, it was still a big impact and would have gently bottomed out most bikes. I've done bigger drops on other bikes before, but this WAS a hard landing. It was enough to almost bottom out my 160mm fork.



    My carbon wheels were 100% fine and i didn't ruin anything else. I'm theorizing, but I think the suspension design, with the linear/regressive last bit of travel may allow bottom outs to be harsher than some other suspension designs. This design may necessitate running a larger volume spacer than I'm used to.


    Prior to this (it's 2 months old), there weren't any sign of cracking, no weird noises, and no weird behavior (ive been very diligent about inspecting it). I haven't crashed this bike ever (including this drop) and I've never ditched the bike or bailed out and sent the bike flying. I've hit about 15 4-5 foot drops, and several 10+ foot gap jumps on this bike with zero issues. This g-out was the only damage to the bike I've had.

    I was running 110% of my weight (200psi), with the stock volume spacer. I'm running a 2.5 wt rear tire on a 36mm rim (not that the tire matters, but it didn't contact the seat tube till after the crack). I wonder if running a larger volume spacer would have prevented this. In 20 years of riding, I've never tacoed a wheel, broke a frame, trashed a rim, snapped a derailleur, or broken any other major component. I'm pretty easy on gear, but lately I've been pushing the size of the obstacles I hit, and this one must have been the perfect storm between not enough volume reducers and too flat of a landing. This was the first time I've felt the rear shock bottom out. Before this, I'd use all the travel from time to time, but never feelt a hard stop. Most rides I end up using all but the last 3mm of stroke. After this landing, the ring was at the very end of the shaft. I'm not sure if I felt a hard bottom out with the shock, or if I felt the tire hitting the seat tube hard after it snapped.

    Spot has been amazing to work with, and they'll be sending me a replacement front triangle, along with a new upper link design that is meant to reduce stress on the seat tube in the event of a hard landing like this.

    I don't feel like most people will ever stress their bikes to this level, and I don't feel like people need to worry about their frames, but its worth mentioning in this thread.

    For those out there who are hitting big gaps and drops, make sure your rear shock is totally dialed (especially the last bit of travel) and take it easy if you might have a really harsh landing

    I accept responsibility for not dialing in my rear shock perfectly, and for hitting big features on this bike. I've never had a frame design that didn't get super progressive at the end of its stroke, and I've never had to add volume spacers before either. This failure may have been 100% user error on my part, and it may have been 100% preventable by running more volume reducers. I don't know exactly what caused it, or what would have prevented it.

    All in all, I'm surprised it cracked, but it was a hard landing. I'm really impressed with how spot is handling the replacement. They're great guys and their first priority was my safety. I'll report back on the new upper link design once I've got some time on my new frame. I'm glad to see them taking a proactive approach to improving their frame design for people like me, and I'm glad to be back on my Rollik soon. This bike is still my favorite bike I've ridden. I'm hopeful that the new upper link will allow me to continue going big on the bike without fear of ruining anything.

    I wish mtbr were easier to add pics from my phone. I'll edit this post to include pictures of the drop and damage shortly.

    I look forward to trying out the new upper link and continuing to ride my rollik on some of the best technical trails I can find. I'm also going to experiment with bigger volume spacers.
    This seems to be almost exactly what happened to the other one that was discussed earlier in the thread. Spot took the position that the shock may have bottomed out as well. I have a Mayhem and from what I understand speaking with some of the suspension pros, the Rollik and the Mayhem do have a difference leverage curves with the Rollik being more linear. So that supports your idea that a more progressive shock is likely needed when riding drops etc like you described.

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    Dang man! Glad your all good. Sad news is right. I live in Bend, OR thatís where Iím riding the mayhem, I definitely havenít seen another spot bike on the trails yet. Look forward to seeing a picture of what happened. What trail were you riding at? I think youíre right about the rear suspension design, as my mayhem was bottoming out pretty easily with the small 0.2 spacer from the factory. With the 0.6 installed now itís hard to bottom out even on bigger drops and it acts more like Iím used to on bikes In the past.
    One more thing should be noted, I just took delivery of mine 2.5 weeks ago and it came with a ďnewĒ carbon fiber upper link piece, whereas the older models were shipping with an aluminum link. Do you know if your rollik has an aluminum one installed?

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    Since I will not ride but to maybe 50% of sixstringsteve's riding, I'll be okay. Will have to demo the Rollik and Mayhem later this month. If they climb smooth stuff well and tech chuck well, I'll go ahead and put them on my top 3 list to decide on one.

    Thanks for the feedback!

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    Damn that sucks about the break, glad you are ok. So far I have been having good luck with a little extra air in the shock, haven't used all of the travel even on rougher trails, but I haven't done any big drops to flat either. I actually think my math was a little off and I was initially running a little less than 110%, and now am running maybe just over. I am loving how this bike feels right now, I feel so much more confident on it than on my '16 stumpy, it climbs amazing, and is so playful and fun. Steve I'm a little confused about what you were told about the volume spacers, you posted earlier that 0.6 was the maximum recommended but Paul told me I could go all the way to 1.2.

    If I remember right I think the guys at spot told me that all of the front triangles on mayhems and rolliks are the same, but they have different rear triangles and links probably. Just wild speculation but maybe when they redesigned the rear for the longer traveled rollik it caused the linkage to be more linear like bogeydog said, since I havent heard of any problems with the mayhem or 1st gen rollik. It does suck that it will be in the back of my mind now if I progress my riding to taking bigger drops. Still absolutely love the bike and am happy I bought it, but I will be following the situation for sure. Thanks for the detailed report Steve.

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    Initially Paul told me my shock came with a 0.2mm spacer. Then he called me back and said it was a 0.6mm, the maximum that Fox recommends for this frame. You CAN go bigger, but Fox didn't recommend it. I'm not worried though, because FOX bases their limits on having 350 psi in the can. I'm only running 200 psi, so I feel fine adding some bigger volume spacers.

    I'll open my rear shock soon and see what's actually in there. I've been working 14 hour days at work lately and I barely have time to come up to breathe. I'll get those pics and details up soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35large View Post
    I live in Bend, OR thatís where Iím riding the mayhem...What trail were you riding at?
    I was climbin up Ben's trail. There's a bonus line off to the left on one of the climbs. I wish I could attach a pic here, but MTBR is blocking me and I don't have a good image hosting site. I'll play with getting an image up later today.

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    Thats crazy, I live in Bend and I'm pretty sure I know the drop you're referencing. It is a big drop but like you said not a huck to flat landing. Glad you were able to roll out of that one mostly unharmed.
    This is very similar to where Alex (singletrack sampler) cracked the frame, with a bottom out causing the initial snap. IMO Spot should issue a recall and do a free replacement with the new upper link design. This is a huge safety risk. If I owned this frame I would be hesitant to send any big jumps or drops. Its a bummer because I was considering this for my next frame.

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    That sucks, Steve, but glad that Spot is gonna take care of you. I got my Rollik (frame only) last month. I wonder if I have the new upper link. Any way to tell?

    I've never broken a carbon frame before, but broke my rear carbon wheel on my Trek Stache last week on a trivial smallish jump (1' kicker) and cased the landing on a small edge. I do take responsibility because I think my tire pressure was too low (11psi on 3" 29 chupacabras). Either way, we learn from our mistakes.

    I am slightly worried about my Rollik though since this is the second breakage in 6 weeks that appear to be the same cause. I contacted Spot to check on my upper link and pointed them to this thread (assuming they haven't seen it). Hopefully we'll hear a bit more about the new link design.

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    I'm confident spot will make this right. I imagine they don't have a stockpile of these upper links yet. We need to give them a bit of time to respond to this before we grab the pitchforks. I've been super impressed with every interaction I've had with them.

    I'll be testing out the new upper link and letting you guys know what I think of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstringsteve View Post
    I'm confident spot will make this right. I imagine they don't have a stockpile of these upper links yet. We need to give them a bit of time to respond to this before we grab the pitchforks. I've been super impressed with every interaction I've had with them.

    I'll be testing out the new upper link and letting you guys know what I think of it.
    Just heard back from Paul@Spot:

    Hi Rich,

    Thanks for the message and all the info. Yes, you have the most current bike. As of the end mid-April, all bikes received that switch. We contacted customers that did not and sorted it out with them individually. You are all set! Thanks for checking in!

    Cheers,

    -Paul

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    I was hesitant to post the breakage in this thread because I don't want to create more headache for spot . I imagine a handful of people have already emailed them with concerns. Ultimately, I thought other spot owners should know, so I posted in this thread.

    They're a really small company and it wouldn't take much for us to completwly overwhelm them with lots of emails.

    They've taken care of me and I'm in love with this bike and I can't wait to get my new triangle and start riding it ahain. I'm sure we will hear from them in time.

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    I'm sorry but it's a complete joke that the bike broke on that drop. So you had proper sag PSI in your shock per your riding weight and spots recommendations and regardless of you bottoming out the suspension this bike failed you badly and it could have ended much worse than just a broken frame but instead a broken body for a long time. You would have ridden that out fine had the bike not failed.

    This is their 6" Enduro bike that can't hold up to "Normal" riding. Like I said earlier in this thread it's a bad design with the kinematics that won't allow this bike to be trusted especially by riders that get after it.
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    To think that anyone should have a shock 100% dialed and have to add anything internally to the shock to prevent a 6" travel Carbon enduro bike from cracking on landing is ludicrous.

    I'm glad your not hurt Steve and if that poor design by Spot concerning whatever excuse they will make be it linkage or rider error regarding PSI is just plain dangerous to the buyer of these bikes.
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    On a side note, Chasing Epic has these bikes as part of their Demo Fleet and I was close to booking a Crested Butte trip with them but with the attitude of one of their guides they contracted in Moab just reading his comments and the way the entire Spot fiasco placing blame regarding a client who broke their rental bike on that trip I'm no longer willing to bring me and my group on one of those trips.
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    I messaged Spot about the new rocker link. Itís for the Rollik 607 only. If you have a Mayhem you are good to go with the stock link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    I messaged Spot about the new rocker link. Itís for the Rollik 607 only. If you have a Mayhem you are good to go with the stock link.
    I have a carbon link that was for the Rollik on my Mayhem. Bought recently and installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    I'm sorry but it's a complete joke that the bike broke on that drop. So you had proper sag PSI in your shock per your riding weight and spots recommendations and regardless of you bottoming out the suspension this bike failed you badly and it could have ended much worse than just a broken frame but instead a broken body for a long time. You would have ridden that out fine had the bike not failed.

    This is their 6" Enduro bike that can't hold up to "Normal" riding. Like I said earlier in this thread it's a bad design with the kinematics that won't allow this bike to be trusted especially by riders that get after it.
    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Be glad you're not hurt, sell that thing, and move on.

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    This is the drop I was going off when my frame broke.

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    My rollik was one of the earlier ones with the v1 upper link. It sounds like most people have the v2 upper link now. I'm excited to try this new upper link out. I love this bike, and I hope I can keep pushing it into bigger and bigger features without fear of breakage.

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    Any idea what's different about v2?

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    I know this drop, Itís pretty knarly for sure! Easily 6í almost a flat landing. If you donít land smooth, it will be a hard hit. I have a friend that hit this drop slow and ended up bending his trek aluminum bike rear triangle and rim haha. Thanks for posting, glad youíre a okay and hoping your replacement comes soon and is solid and confidence inspiring. I plan to hammer down on my mayhem which I love, put it through all the tests I can and we will see what happens! Hoping for the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    Any idea what's different about v2?
    The V2 will prevent the rocker arm from contacting the seat tube. I believe it is cut out a bit more along the front. Spot is sending out the new one to those that had the V1 rocker. Mine is on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    On a side note, Chasing Epic has these bikes as part of their Demo Fleet and I was close to booking a Crested Butte trip with them but with the attitude of one of their guides they contracted in Moab just reading his comments and the way the entire Spot fiasco placing blame regarding a client who broke their rental bike on that trip I'm no longer willing to bring me and my group on one of those trips.
    The guide's that Chasing Epic uses in Crested Butte is a different group than Moab. I can't comment on the Moab guides, but the Crested Butte guides are absolutely awesome. Also keep in mind the guides aren't employees of Chasing Epic, they are hired guides by Chasing Epic.

    I did a Chasing Epic in Fruita with the guides that do Crested Butte as well (they are based out of Crested Butte btw), I would highly recommend either trip as again the guides are absolutely wonderful in every way and incredibly respectful of any and all rider's abilities. I would hire them in a second for everything from a day trip to a multi-day trip.

    As to the Rollik 607, it was neither here nor there for me. It climbed flat stuff great, way too stiff rear IMO for technical climbing to me, normal trail riding was fine, and on big technical descending was again too stiff in the rear IMO. It just seemed to skip and bounce on big stuff to my liking, even at 30% sag. Flowy stuff it was fun though, but I can't say I've ridden a modern bike over the past few years that wasn't fun on flowy stuff.

    I'm a big guy, 6-3, 245lbs, and I like to go over stuff rather then around, and the rollik just wasn't that type of bike to me. I can see why some people like it, some people hate it, and others are probably like me, it is just another bike. After the fact I wish I would have gone with the Rollik 29er (Mayhem), but I really like the Ibis Ripley LS and would be hard pressed not to choose that for a 29er. I am glad I got to finally ride a spot though. I did absolutely love their paint though, especially the black bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin513 View Post
    The guide's that Chasing Epic uses in Crested Butte is a different group than Moab. I can't comment on the Moab guides, but the Crested Butte guides are absolutely awesome. Also keep in mind the guides aren't employees of Chasing Epic, they are hired guides by Chasing Epic.

    I did a Chasing Epic in Fruita with the guides that do Crested Butte as well (they are based out of Crested Butte btw), I would highly recommend either trip as again the guides are absolutely wonderful in every way and incredibly respectful of any and all rider's abilities. I would hire them in a second for everything from a day trip to a multi-day trip.

    As to the Rollik 607, it was neither here nor there for me. It climbed flat stuff great, way too stiff rear IMO for technical climbing to me, normal trail riding was fine, and on big technical descending was again too stiff in the rear IMO. It just seemed to skip and bounce on big stuff to my liking, even at 30% sag. Flowy stuff it was fun though, but I can't say I've ridden a modern bike over the past few years that wasn't fun on flowy stuff.

    I'm a big guy, 6-3, 245lbs, and I like to go over stuff rather then around, and the rollik just wasn't that type of bike to me. I can see why some people like it, some people hate it, and others are probably like me, it is just another bike. After the fact I wish I would have gone with the Rollik 29er (Mayhem), but I really like the Ibis Ripley LS and would be hard pressed not to choose that for a 29er. I am glad I got to finally ride a spot though. I did absolutely love their paint though, especially the black bikes.
    Thank you for the review on Chasing Epic. I have heard nothing but great things about them also. If you like the RipleyLS give the Mayhem a demo. I have owned both and the Mayhem in my opinion is way more fun. Both great bikes for sure but worth a demo on both before deciding. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gryeti View Post
    Thank you for the review on Chasing Epic. I have heard nothing but great things about them also. If you like the RipleyLS give the Mayhem a demo. I have owned both and the Mayhem in my opinion is way more fun. Both great bikes for sure but worth a demo on both before deciding. Cheers!
    I also went out with Chasing Epic in Crested Butte. Ben & Janae from Colorado Backcountry are the guides used by Chasing Epic there. Both great riders and Ben is an especially strong climber. I'm still hoping to get back out with Chasing Epic to Moab later this year....I don't have a problem with the comments made by the guide in the other thread anyway. Alex, who was riding the bike, is a complete $hit-show on a bike. I know I wouldn't let him ride one of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin513 View Post
    The guide's that Chasing Epic uses in Crested Butte is a different group than Moab. I can't comment on the Moab guides, but the Crested Butte guides are absolutely awesome. Also keep in mind the guides aren't employees of Chasing Epic, they are hired guides by Chasing Epic.

    I did a Chasing Epic in Fruita with the guides that do Crested Butte as well (they are based out of Crested Butte btw), I would highly recommend either trip as again the guides are absolutely wonderful in every way and incredibly respectful of any and all rider's abilities. I would hire them in a second for everything from a day trip to a multi-day trip.

    As to the Rollik 607, it was neither here nor there for me. It climbed flat stuff great, way too stiff rear IMO for technical climbing to me, normal trail riding was fine, and on big technical descending was again too stiff in the rear IMO. It just seemed to skip and bounce on big stuff to my liking, even at 30% sag. Flowy stuff it was fun though, but I can't say I've ridden a modern bike over the past few years that wasn't fun on flowy stuff.

    I'm a big guy, 6-3, 245lbs, and I like to go over stuff rather then around, and the rollik just wasn't that type of bike to me. I can see why some people like it, some people hate it, and others are probably like me, it is just another bike. After the fact I wish I would have gone with the Rollik 29er (Mayhem), but I really like the Ibis Ripley LS and would be hard pressed not to choose that for a 29er. I am glad I got to finally ride a spot though. I did absolutely love their paint though, especially the black bikes.
    Thank you for taking the time to give your thoughts on the Trip offered in CB and also about the 2 guides and there great service they provide. I've done 3 trips with H+I adventures so the bar is very high for what I expect from a company from start to finish.

    One thing that really put me off about the entire fiasco with the Spot Rollik 607 that broke was the fact that both the company "Spot" and that specific guide blamed the rider 100% and pretty much said he was incompetent with the setup of his rental bike and his riding abilities caused everything. Wrong !!!! In the end it was indeed a design flaw which with that linkage and not the rider, shock setup.....or irresponsible riding....or whatever spin those involved wanted to put the blame on.

    I'll definatley ride one of the Ibis bikes if I pull the trigger on a trip with Chasing Epic
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    I just got off the phone with Paul, what a great guy. A little update.

    They're out of small frames at the moment, so my replacement frame won't come for a couple weeks. He offered me a loaner bike in the mean time (which is awesome CS), but I can live without my rollik for 2 weeks. I'm excited to get the bike put back together and test out the new upper link.

    At this point, Alex and I are the only two who have broken a rollik 607, and both were off 5-6' drops. It's good to know that there hasn't been anyone else who has broken one.

    I'm hopeful that with a bigger volume spacer, and the new upper link (which reduces the load on the seat tube and has more clearance), I should be good. Fingers crossed.

    In the event that I manage to crack my next one, I'd be devastated, because there's no other bike I like even close as much. Sure, I could have fun on just about anything, but the living link and the geo of this bike have really set the bar higher than I thought was possible. Every other bike I've ridden is a compromise in ride quality for what I like. I've found bikes that I enjoy almost as much on the downhills, but definitely not on the uphills, on jumps, or corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    Thank you for taking the time to give your thoughts on the Trip offered in CB and also about the 2 guides and there great service they provide. I've done 3 trips with H+I adventures so the bar is very high for what I expect from a company from start to finish.

    One thing that really put me off about the entire fiasco with the Spot Rollik 607 that broke was the fact that both the company "Spot" and that specific guide blamed the rider 100% and pretty much said he was incompetent with the setup of his rental bike and his riding abilities caused everything. Wrong !!!! In the end it was indeed a design flaw which with that linkage and not the rider, shock setup.....or irresponsible riding....or whatever spin those involved wanted to put the blame on.

    I'll definatley ride one of the Ibis bikes if I pull the trigger on a trip with Chasing Epic
    NP at all. Steve the owner of Chasing Epic sets up an incredible trip, supplies great food, ride snacks/nutrition, and is a great rider and photographer. He exceeded my exceptions by miles with the trip he laid out. Before the trip he also helped me plan other aspects of my trip with my S/O on trails in western Colorado and Moab that would be beginer friendly for her, as well as places to eat/stay. Ben (owner of Colorado Backcountry) and Sydney (works for Colorado BC) were our guides and provided so much in terms of preperation, giving us backstories on the trails we were riding, small skills clinics if needed on how to overcome obsticles, and pointing out wildlife and vegetation. The passion those two have on the area of Crested Butte and GC/Fruita is incredible and I thoroughly enjoyed talking to them in the evenings and mornings about the area/trails/rides/etc... On top of that I couldn't imagine either of them ever saying anything negative about anything, they both are incredibly nice people. Here is Colorado BCs website: https://www.coloradobc.com/

    I wouldn't let the issues of the Spot stop me from booking another trip with Chasing Epic and again although I didn't find the 607 to be a bike I'd buy, I did enjoy riding one for 4 days and I didn't let the issues that STS had on his slow me down or discourage me from hitting anything as I would on my bikes, and trust me we all knew about what happened as his incident happened the week before our trip.

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    I had a nice conversation with Chasing Epic and I'm really excited to soon do a trip with them. The fact that mountain biking is supposed to be fun and enjoyable every pedal stroke you put in while sometimes having to deal with different personalities and skill levels in the group was my main concern and Steve is 100% committed to bringing this stoke factor to every client who books an adventure with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 35large View Post
    I know this drop, Itís pretty knarly for sure! Easily 6í almost a flat landing. If you donít land smooth, it will be a hard hit. I have a friend that hit this drop slow and ended up bending his trek aluminum bike rear triangle and rim haha. Thanks for posting, glad youíre a okay and hoping your replacement comes soon and is solid and confidence inspiring. I plan to hammer down on my mayhem which I love, put it through all the tests I can and we will see what happens! Hoping for the best!
    Was your friend on a hardtail? My back wheel landed on the landing, but my front wheel was a little ahead of it. It's a risky move regardless. It was a fun one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstringsteve View Post
    Was your friend on a hardtail? My back wheel landed on the landing, but my front wheel was a little ahead of it. It's a risky move regardless. It was a fun one.
    Not a hard tail. Full suspension, but it was a short 80mm travel xc style bike and it was about 10 years old with qr dropouts that bent so the wheel wouldnít sit straight in the frame.

    Thatís so awesome they offered you a loaner, itís really nice dealing with a small company that has great CS. My interactions with them before purchasing were great.

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    I borrowed a friends bike today, and the whole time i was wishing I was on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstringsteve View Post
    Initially Paul told me my shock came with a 0.2mm spacer. Then he called me back and said it was a 0.6mm, the maximum that Fox recommends for this frame. You CAN go bigger, but Fox didn't recommend it. I'm not worried though, because FOX bases their limits on having 350 psi in the can. I'm only running 200 psi, so I feel fine adding some bigger volume spacers.
    .2 and .6 cubic inch volume spacers, right?

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