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    Orbea Rallon. Yes please.

    Anyone else really impressed with the new Orbea Rallon?



    I'm struggling to find any boxes it doesn't tick - long top tube, slack HA, steep SA, short chainstays, stealth routing, threaded BB, ISCG-05 tabs, adjustable geometry, simple leverage curve, big shock, etc.

    It's not carbon, but that also helps it from costing an arm and a leg. Plus, I'm thinking carbon wheels might make more of a difference than a carbon frame (ie alloy frame/carbon wheels>carbon frame/alloy wheels).


    There are some favorable reviews popping up around the internets:
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    Not overly impressed with the Geometry, but full BOS-Suspension is killer and the Rallon seems to be a serious fun-orientated AM-Bike overall. I like it.

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    I did a short ride on one (L sizeway), and I found the geometry to be bang on. I think Orbea's got a winner on it's hands.

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    This will be my next bike in early 2014! Facts are very nice. The geometry looks spot on and you can't go wrong with the BOS suspension.
    I am not sure yet which size and color to get. Beeing 184cm tall I could go with medium or large I think.

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    Whats your height and how do you felt on that large Rallon? From the numbers it seems to be more like x-large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadl View Post
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    Whats your height and how do you felt on that large Rallon? From the numbers it seems to be more like x-large.
    Hey, so I got in another ride on the large and I felt much more comfortable on the bike this time. I'm 193cm and rode with a 50mm stem. Felt perfect for me, but it's a BIG bike, long wheelbase, long toptube, etc.

    Based on your height, you could probably go either way, but you might want a 35mm stem if you go large? I'd try both and see which feels best to you. On the other hand, the medium will be lighter?

    A word on the BOS, it's aptly named! The rear suspension is really really good. Orbea did their homework there. This is a very fast bike. Curious to see if Noah's experience is similar to mine.

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    So it felt very big and not playfull in size L?
    So I might go with the medium. I like short stems but if the frame is that long..
    Do you felt stretched on the bike while pedaling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadl View Post
    So it felt very big and not playfull in size L?
    So I might go with the medium. I like short stems but if the frame is that long..
    Do you felt stretched on the bike while pedaling?
    I thought the geo of the large felt great and the short chain stays made it quite "playful". However, I'm 7cm taller than you and I weigh 200 lbs (91 kgs). My current trail bike is an Xl rip rdo which is also quite big, so you get the idea.

    Sounds like you could go either way, it just depends on whether you want a more compact fit or if you want to be stretched out a bit?

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    Well, I got to shred on it...

    Got to ride it today! Did about twenty miles on super flowy, buff trails - this baby rips! I'm really impressed so far. I've got it for a week, hopefully the weather holds out and I can get more time on it. Too early to make too many bold statements, but I can say it is a pretty impressive package. The large fits me well at 6'1" - feels like a natural position coming off XL Santa Cruz frames.

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    Better get on it. Weather is about to take a big dump! Let me how how that thing rails the trainer

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    Mr Colorado, if you get an opportunity could you throw that fine looking rig on a scale, any idea of the frame weight?

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    Not sure on frame weight, but as-is the scale reads a hair over 30 (with Mallet pedals).
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    What a bike !

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    I like this bike too. Someone have tried to change the geometry to the super-low position ? XX1 comes with 175mm or 170mm crankset ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan-Bagnat View Post
    I like this bike too. Someone have tried to change the geometry to the super-low position ? XX1 comes with 175mm or 170mm crankset ?
    They all come with 170mm cranks.

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    Gotta spend 7K to get the BOS stuff

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    Does anyone know the shock size of the BOS Kirk on the Rallon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadl View Post
    Does anyone know the shock size of the BOS Kirk on the Rallon?
    8.5" x 2.5" I believe.
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    Thank you!
    Any new impressions on the Rallon from you?
    Still trying to decide between a Lapierre Zesty/Spicy and the new Rallon.

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    8.5"x2.5" (216x63mm) according to the BOS Shock Compatibility Chart

    http://www.bosmtb.com/uploads/media/...12-2013_03.pdf

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    Climbing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fadl View Post
    Thank you!
    Any new impressions on the Rallon from you?
    Still trying to decide between a Lapierre Zesty/Spicy and the new Rallon.
    I'm curious also to know more things about this bike. Mr Colorado, how was the bike to climb ? With short chainstays and a 160mm fork don't you have got too much wheelies ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaelP View Post
    I'm curious also to know more things about this bike. Mr Colorado, how was the bike to climb ? With short chainstays and a 160mm fork don't you have got too much wheelies ?
    Not with the really long front center measurement, the front end stays planted. The bike pedals really well because of the relation of the pivot to the chainrings but it's not going to win any Strava KOM's against a 125mm trail bike. But if you consider it weighs around 29 lbs and has geometry similar to a Demo 8 but with a longer cockpit, it climbs like a squirrel on fire! It feels really snappy the harder you pedal, so when you are throwing in a few quick pedal strokes between corners it really goes. I will post up a weight when I have my ENVEs set up.

    Edit: 28.3 lbs with Enve AM

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    This looks like a really killer bike. Enough to make my mind stray from my Bronson which is now feeling a little short in the cockpit. Has anyone else swung a leg over the new Rallon yet? Any riders who are about 5'9" with sizing feedback? I'm down to a shootout between the Rallon and the Kona Process 153 and I'm having a tough time deciding.
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    i am ordering the rallon today and i am 5'9.6" ( 177cm) and i am confused since the medium has really long top tube and wheel base but the size chart says 175 is the max for the small. can anyone help with this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Soliman View Post
    i am ordering the rallon today and i am 5'9.6" ( 177cm) and i am confused since the medium has really long top tube and wheel base but the size chart says 175 is the max for the small. can anyone help with this ?
    You can fit on a small but you are better off on the medium. These medium bikes are really med/large or large as in most brands. It's best described as an 18" or 18.5 inch bike.

    What's going on is the top tube is pretty darn long.

    But it is made to run 45-50mm stems and wide bars so the long top tube is key. The bike has a long wheelbase to make it stable when thundering through the chunder.

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    This bike is truly incredible and is the surprise of the Mtbr bike test. Orbea jumped two notches in the trail bike arena with this introduction.

    They are excelling in two levels:

    1) The geometry is different from the rest. Stays are short but wheelbase is long. What's going on is they wanted it quick on the rear but very stable on the fast and rough descents. What you get is a bike that is stable yet really playful. The rear will want to drift on you (specially with that small Mavic rear tire) but it is all very controllable (if you're good ).

    BB is low at 13.3 inches but they countered it with short cranks to prevent pedal strikes when climbing and cornering.

    Seat tube is steep at 74.5 degrees and this thing pedals like a champ. Rear shock has things under control and there just doesn't to be a lot of pedal bob.

    2) Components are amazing! BOS suspension, Mavic wheels, Raceface, Fizik. Everything is best of breed!!! Except the brakes.

    The key is the ride is rad. It is like a hammer on the downhills. And it can climb.

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    Downsides are:

    There is some rear swingarm flex for very powerful or heavy riders. The suspension arm is very beefy but it is not supported by the seat tube at all.

    The rear tire is squirrelly. It was made to drift and get around switchbacks fast. It's cool but it's not for everyone.

    Brakes are not as good as Shimano XTs. And the BOS suspension, despite being awesome has knobs that are very difficult to turn.

    The key is that this is a race bike. It's like an F1 bike for the aggressive rider. It will be awesome for many but it's not for everyone looking for a weekender bike with simple geometry and suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    Downsides are:

    There is some rear swingarm flex for very powerful or heavy riders. The suspension arm is very beefy but it is not supported by the seat tube at all.

    The rear tire is squirrelly. It was made to drift and get around switchbacks fast. It's cool but it's not for everyone.

    Brakes are not as good as Shimano XTs. And the BOS suspension, despite being awesome has knobs that are very difficult to turn.

    The key is that this is a race bike. It's like an F1 bike for the aggressive rider. It will be awesome for many but it's not for everyone looking for a weekender bike with simple geometry and suspension.

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    Thanks the candid pros and cons on the bike. Being from Orbea, I think the Rallon is really a surprise and isn't getting the same attention to be reviewed like other brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxbat View Post
    Thanks the candid pros and cons on the bike. Being from Orbea, I think the Rallon is really a surprise and isn't getting the same attention to be reviewed like other brands.
    It is starting to make waves. But as waves are, slowly at first.

    Because it's from Orbea (aka not a dominant player) in all mountain, they had to get the best parts available and not rely on house brands or lucrative existing OE relationships.

    Also, we mock 'Enduro Racing' all the time. But that is what made this bike possible. It's given a company like Orbea a target and clear marching orders for building a bike. The needs for Enduro are clearly defined by Enduro World Championship rules. And the rewards of the podium are concrete too. It's easier to gain budget and resources when the rules and rewards of the game are spelled out.

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    Hello,

    I've ordered a frame. Would a chris king i2 headset work with it?

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    Hey! I have found a great deal on Orbea Rallon R3, 26" inch wheels, size M. My height is 6'(183 cm), and wheigh around 86 kg(190 pounds). Normal legs(lenght) and rather shorter arms(1-2 cm shorter than normal). Do you think it fits me or maybe is too small?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgor View Post
    Hello,

    I've ordered a frame. Would a chris king i2 headset work with it?
    If the headset is the same as the Occam you need a IS-42 / 28.6 top and a IS-52 bottom headset.. as far as I know Kind does not make "integrated" headsets so I got a 110 series cane creek, very nice actually..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicirila View Post
    Hey! I have found a great deal on Orbea Rallon R3, 26" inch wheels, size M. My height is 6'(183 cm), and wheigh around 86 kg(190 pounds). Normal legs(lenght) and rather shorter arms(1-2 cm shorter than normal). Do you think it fits me or maybe is too small?
    Thanks!
    I ride a large 29er Occam been 6.2" but I wish I got the medium frame, the top tubes are super long on Orbea's

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    Quote Originally Posted by patineto View Post
    I ride a large 29er Occam been 6.2" but I wish I got the medium frame, the top tubes are super long on Orbea's
    Thanks for the quick reply my friend! So for the rallon r3(26" wheels) the same thing applies? That means I should go for it? Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicirila View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply my friend! So for the rallon r3(26" wheels) the same thing applies? That means I should go for it? Thanks again!
    I don't know the R3 but if you measure the top length in a horizontal line from the top of the headset (at the center axis) to the middle of the seatpost and get around 24" the bike will fit you just fine, actually 23 3/4" will be perfect for most people of your size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicirila View Post
    Hey! I have found a great deal on Orbea Rallon R3, 26" inch wheels, size M. My height is 6'(183 cm), and wheigh around 86 kg(190 pounds). Normal legs(lenght) and rather shorter arms(1-2 cm shorter than normal). Do you think it fits me or maybe is too small?
    Thanks!
    I'm 183cm and last two years had a R3 size M with a 55cm stem. perfect fit for me. You must try it! it depends in how you like to go in your bike but probably will fit you better the medium than the large...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicirila View Post
    Hey! I have found a great deal on Orbea Rallon R3, 26" inch wheels, size M. My height is 6'(183 cm), and wheigh around 86 kg(190 pounds). Normal legs(lenght) and rather shorter arms(1-2 cm shorter than normal). Do you think it fits me or maybe is too small?
    Thanks!
    Go for it. Had mine in size M and I'm the same height as you. Was running with 9cm stem as I liked it to be a bit longer in the front.
    BTW, I will also have my bike for sale for ridiculously low price in a few weeks time.

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    Thanks for the answer! I got it, and it seems fine(didn't get the chance to ride it yet)

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    This is mine...




    Orbea Rallon X-team, with some updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rokesoke View Post
    This is mine...




    Orbea Rallon X-team, with some updates.
    Size: S
    Weight: 28,88lb

    regards.
    Hi Rokesoke, how tall are you if you don't mind me asking? Looking at either the s or m I'm 5,8'.

    Cheers

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    Here is mine too:

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    Re: Orbea Rallon. Yes please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fugg View Post
    Hi Rokesoke, how tall are you if you don't mind me asking? Looking at either the s or m I'm 5,8'.

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    I'm 5,61'.
    S size fits perfect for me.

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    Fugg, ksink, rokesoke: Those are some nice looking rides! I'm jealous!

    I was able to place an order for the frameset through my local dealer but latest word from the factory has the delivery scheduled for April. It's going to be a long wait.

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    Don't worry Foxbat. I have been waiting from first week of November until end of January. But it the deserves the wait!

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    Re: Orbea Rallon. Yes please.

    One pic more for the wait?


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    Pinkbike review is up:

    Orbea Rallon X-Team - Review - Pinkbike

    What a bike!

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    yeah, i jest read it, looks like something i would be interested in!
    However the trails that they tested it on look laughable, a BMX would be just fine on those smooth berms. riding a bike like this on a trail like that is just wasted potential. makes me wonder how comprehensive the review was, looks almost as bad as taking it for a lap around a parking lot and making drawing conclusions about how it soaks up bumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    yeah, i jest read it, looks like something i would be interested in!
    However the trails that they tested it on look laughable, a BMX would be just fine on those smooth berms. riding a bike like this on a trail like that is just wasted potential. makes me wonder how comprehensive the review was, looks almost as bad as taking it for a lap around a parking lot and making drawing conclusions about how it soaks up bumps.
    I get the sense from reading the two reviews that Pinkbike tested the bike on more challenging terrain. I drew the conclusion from PB's review that it was quite capable descending.

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    Yep cross bike terrain from the pics and they talk about climbing on a fire road - how about rocky, steep chunky climbs? And they complain about the low BB on the Rallon at 13.3 but say nothing about the 13.2 BB on the Solo and of ourse, any bike with a BB higher than 13.5 is labeled a circus bike by most. Also all the reviews seem disjointed and not very consistent. I think this comparo is a great dea but poorly executed. I don't get the drip feeding of reviews either.

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    Starting to ride a Small. It's a serious ripper, suspension is very plush en geometry is quite spot on. While the rear tire is quite small and doesn't seem that grippy it really wants to drift in the corners while in muddy terrain I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of traction is gives.

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