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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?

    Got a teaser e-mail with a few frame shots, good looking frames. Anyone in here know anything on them yet like travel, materials, etc?
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    Hi.

    I am the distributor for Switchback in UK/Europe.
    Here some info on the frames, bikes and company:
    29er | 27.5 | Full-Suspension - Switchback Bikes

    Hope that helps.

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    The Unveil looks like a Kona Satori front triangle with a FSR - (just like the now defunct hammerhead/thumper brand) - which likely works very well for intended purpose. I have a Satori and it rips - plain and simple - the Satori has shorter chainstays and Kona's design vs the FSR design - but they are "similar" - i believe the rear axl pivot placement is the primary difference in the setup.

    The Reveal 7 looks pretty nice... it will need to be proven on the trails as pricewise it doesnt have any distinct advantages over many hot new 275 bikes on the market

    Dont take my musings as a negative - I like the small independent business following a passion - and the bikes look decent / intriguing... hope it all works out for them

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    Reveal7 Frames & Prototype FSR 27.5 Frame

    Hey guys....totally missed this thread until now. Great questions/feedback.

    The Reveal 7 frames are in production w/ current ready-to-ship (to us) ETA of first week of April. We have been fortunate enough to pre-sell almost all the frames.
    There are 2 Med frames still available....and I can honor the pre-sell price on those at $1,799 ($2,299 MSRP)
    New Switchback 27.5 frames?-reveal7-allblk-logo.jpg

    27.5 | Full-Suspension - Switchback Bikes

    We are also working on a 27.5 version of the "Thumper" frames that will be produced under the Switchback Brand.
    TwoNin9r's Hammerhead Thumper Build Thread
    HammerHead Thumper, thoughts?
    There is still a good amount of inventory left on the Thumper frames and Switchback is able to honor the warranty on them, per the Manufacturer, so we are running w/ those vs investing in a production run Branded Switchback at this time.

    Here's a thread someone started asking whether "switchback will make it" a lot of good info about what Switchback is up to. Feel free to check that out as well Will Switchback bikes make it?

    Here is a spy photo of the first 27.5 "Thumper" prototype in existence:
    New Switchback 27.5 frames?-dsc_0201.jpg

    We are really close to having sample frames (prototypes w/ paint/graphics) shipping our way....will give updates on those as I receive them.

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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?-unveil7-logo.jpg

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    What Color

    Working on a color for the Sample Prototype frames. Anyone want to chime in w/ suggestions? I'm all ears!

    Guidelines:
    Paint, not Anodized
    One-color, like the artwork file attached
    One-color decals

    Thanks, Scott
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    I believe a good orange color would be killer -

    in males - 18-40, outside of your traditional black and white, Orange has become the most searched color for new vehicles. This from the auto industry - which explains why Toyotas new TRD rpo line is Orange, and Subaru's hottest new color in sales is the orange crosstek xv... i would presume there is a strong link btw mtb'ers and this auto market segment

    plus a good orange is a rippin looking color - i.e. solo, tracer, burner, slash...

    and than - there's black... a cant go wrong color. maybe offer a graphics/sticker custom option for those that want a unique color?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    I believe a good orange color would be killer -

    in males - 18-40, outside of your traditional black and white, Orange has become the most searched color for new vehicles. This from the auto industry - which explains why Toyotas new TRD rpo line is Orange, and Subaru's hottest new color in sales is the orange crosstek xv... i would presume there is a strong link btw mtb'ers and this auto market segment

    plus a good orange is a rippin looking color - i.e. solo, tracer, burner, slash...

    and than - there's black... a cant go wrong color. maybe offer a graphics/sticker custom option for those that want a unique color?
    @kamper11
    This is great info thank you very much....noted and researching more now!

    Thanks, Scott

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    Another option would be be to switch the Black and Blue between the frame and the logo.

    This bike might go on my short list, do you have an estimated release date and price range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by betorac View Post
    Another option would be be to switch the Black and Blue between the frame and the logo.

    This bike might go on my short list, do you have an estimated release date and price range?
    @betorac kinda like this but with Blk decals?

    New Switchback 27.5 frames?-image.jpg

    If we could get the alloy frame to production, earliest availability would be Fall 2014. Will have firm pricing once I can get the Prototypes here, but will come in at a lower price point than the "big brands"

    If you are referring to the Carbon frame...they are in production & ETA from the manufacturer is currently the 1st week of April
    We have a few still available....$1,799 shipped (in the US) is the pre-book price on them

    Feel free to hit me direct if you have more questions as well

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    That actually looks pretty sweet. I wonder if Black decals would "pop" more, and the black would also match the shock. Just a thought.

    Yes my questions were regarding the allow version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betorac View Post
    That actually looks pretty sweet. I wonder if Black decals would "pop" more, and the black would also match the shock. Just a thought.

    Yes my questions were regarding the allow version.
    Sure will.....I'll have solid pricing info soon....this is the planned model name (in Blk)
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    27.5 steel (or ti, or carbon if i have to) hardtail with SS option please. I say this thinking the market for this is slightly more than 0 but what the heck, may as well ask. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyeggo View Post
    27.5 steel (or ti, or carbon if i have to) hardtail with SS option please. I say this thinking the market for this is slightly more than 0 but what the heck, may as well ask. ;-)
    @sandyeggo - may have info to share on this soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback Bikes View Post
    @sandyeggo - may have info to share on this soon
    Sweet! I'll be on the lookout!
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    Thumper 27.5 Prototype Frame

    I found images of the 1st sample/prototype frame we received when we were operating under the Hammerhead Brand Name. Here are some images. It wasn't intentional, but when the frame arrived I realized we essentially did a generic "BEER" can graphic/paint version for the frame

    I dig it

    New Switchback 27.5 frames?-beer-sm.jpg

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    Ordering Prototype Frames

    About to place the order for the Unveil7 prototype frames! Have 2 Larges unspoken for....anyone want "IN" as a "field-tester" Special Price For You, Almost Free scott@switchbacksportsgroup.com

    Unveil7 ? 29er | 27.5 | Full-Suspension - Switchback Bikes

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    Thanks, Scott

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    I would take one if it was a Medium.

    I looked at the Geo for the Unveal 7 on your website, are those accurate or are they the old Thumper 29er Geometry? They look about right but the Standover caught me off guard. 32.4" for a Medium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by betorac View Post
    I would take one if it was a Medium.

    I looked at the Geo for the Unveal 7 on your website, are those accurate or are they the old Thumper 29er Geometry? They look about right but the Standover caught me off guard. 32.4" for a Medium?
    I am getting a couple of XLs built....could have them build another Med....typical manufacturing time is 30-45 days....timing would work good w/ when the shock/forks are available from SRAM
    It is the correct chart.....very possible I made a mistake on standover....32.4 is a lot for a Med...I will double check and correct.

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    Standover is wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by betorac View Post
    I would take one if it was a Medium.

    I looked at the Geo for the Unveal 7 on your website, are those accurate or are they the old Thumper 29er Geometry? They look about right but the Standover caught me off guard. 32.4" for a Medium?
    Yep, it's wrong...good catch...the standovers listed on the Unveil7 Geo chart are the standovers of the Thumper frames.

    I'll get it corrected...and upload the CAD GEO PDF here in case anyone wants to get GEO paralysis by analysis

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    Am I the only one thinking the unpainted frame is the way to go? That built prototype looks awesome raw.

    What is the TT on a large frame?

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    Size Large ETT

    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    Am I the only one thinking the unpainted frame is the way to go? That built prototype looks awesome raw.

    What is the TT on a large frame?
    Sorry for the late reply....didn't get a notification someone posted in the thread.

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    The "RAW" prototype frames will be here very soon....will post up some pics once they are Stateside!

    Thanks, Scott

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    If any other folks are with or interested in Switchback's "field-test" group on the Unveil7, send me a private message to compare notes. I think I'm doing a Size Large, Monarch+, Pike, SLX, Reverb build.

    It might be reassuring for some to know that they aren't the only folks getting a prototype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    I believe a good orange color would be killer -

    in males - 18-40, outside of your traditional black and white, Orange has become the most searched color for new vehicles. This from the auto industry - which explains why Toyotas new TRD rpo line is Orange, and Subaru's hottest new color in sales is the orange crosstek xv... i would presume there is a strong link btw mtb'ers and this auto market segment

    plus a good orange is a rippin looking color - i.e. solo, tracer, burner, slash...
    agreed, using wht grafix as well.

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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?

    Orange frame, Wht graphics, white rear shock, white fork....
    Hhmmm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback Bikes View Post
    Orange frame, Wht graphics, white rear shock, white fork....
    Hhmmm
    Per my email i had to get the plug in here for orange Scott..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    Per my email i had to get the plug in here for orange Scott..

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    Am I the only one thinking the unpainted frame is the way to go? That built prototype looks awesome raw.

    What is the TT on a large frame?

    I agree. I see alot of pictures of raw prototypes from many brands and they look sick. Makes me wanna strip/polish/clear my bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    I believe a good orange color would be killer -

    in males - 18-40, outside of your traditional black and white, Orange has become the most searched color for new vehicles. This from the auto industry - which explains why Toyotas new TRD rpo line is Orange, and Subaru's hottest new color in sales is the orange crosstek xv... i would presume there is a strong link btw mtb'ers and this auto market segment

    plus a good orange is a rippin looking color - i.e. solo, tracer, burner, slash...

    and than - there's black... a cant go wrong color. maybe offer a graphics/sticker custom option for those that want a unique color?
    Looks like your Subaru/Orange/Mountain Bike assessment is spot-on
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    I really like Switchback Blue, but the two-tone neon fade into black on the XX1 blog post is pretty rad as well.

    Part of the reason I want a raw proto is to paint it eventually, but raw creates more of a buzz when people ask "what kinda bike is that?"

    On the graphics front, Scott have you toyed with make the Switchback lettering "wrap" the downtube, for instance the "S" on one side would actually meet the top of the "K" on the other side?
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    Yeah I like that two-color paint as well.....bumps the price up a bit though, so have to factor things like that in

    Good point on a Raw Proto

    Oh wow, that sounds cool....you have any graphic mock-up skills? Be cool to "see" that idea.

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    [/QUOTE]On the graphics front, Scott have you toyed with make the Switchback lettering "wrap" the downtube, for instance the "S" on one side would actually meet the top of the "K" on the other side?[/QUOTE]

    This sounds cool. Or put the lettering on the top and bottom of the down tube instead of on the sides.

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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?

    @661lee I have done some mock-ups of that...it does look cool.

    Decided to leave on the sides of the DT for now....as the Brand grows and gets more recognized I will feel more comfortable with playing around with the Main logo locations



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    That makes sense.

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    Unveil7 Prototype Frames

    The Unveil7 prototype frames have been purchased, Manufacturer is finishing and assembling them to ship to us in April

    Unveil7 — 27.5 | 29er | Switchback Bikes
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    Switchback Blue - Unveil7

    Took my "Thumper" frame to the powdercoater for some Switchback Blue Love....slapped on some Switchback Stickers for an idea of what the Unveil7 will look like PCed Switchback Blue....not too shabby if I don't mind saying so my own self
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    That looks sweet!

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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?

    Prototype orders placed....expect to have them here by the end of the month....hope to have Unveil7 porn to post shortly after that






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    Unveil7 Prototypes getting prepared to ship to us!

    Loaded some sneak peak images on the product page of the frames getting packaged/boxed up as they prepare to ship them our way!

    Unveil7 Prototype - 27.5 | 29er | Switchback Bikes

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    Nice looking frame, reminds me of the Transition Bandit 27.5. But better since has horst link instead of single pivot. Pivot hardware looks bigger on Transiton but that is just looking at pictures. Can't wait to hear about the details when it goes to production ($ and shipping dates).

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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?

    Thanks @betorac will definitely update as I have more info I can share


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    This is Exciting .. We are looking forward to becoming Brand Pioneers for this company. We check for updates daily.....


    On ordered: 1 Large Unveil 7 and 1 Medium Reveal 7... More to come...Watch out Metro NY_NJ_CT .... SB's 27.5 will be arriving shortly to a trail near you .... WE CAN NOT WAIT....
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    Something new this way comes....

    the Behind The Curtain details to follow soon....

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    Why were these frames chosen to be the Reveal7 and Reveal9 Frames?

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    Unveil7 Prototypes shipped

    The Unveil7 prototype frames shipped our way 2-days ago, be here next week!

    Here are some peaks at a couple our Distributor in New Zealand is putting through the field testing phase

    He had them custom powdercoated....front triangles before reassembly

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    Almost built up and ready to hit the trails
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    Shuttle Time!
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    Are those the Debonairs or are they just White Monarch Plus? They appear to have a larger can.

    I like the yellow highlights, but your distributor needs to get some high quality pics!
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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?

    Pre-Debonair....HV can...
    The ones coming have Debonairs...

    Yeah, they took a lot of HiRes images....they will be sending to me soon...
    These are just some glimpses


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    Prototype Field Testing In New Zealand

    Couple shots of the Unveil7 Protoype rocking the trails in New Zealand

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    New Switchback 27.5 frames?

    Be there in 2-3 biz days


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