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    New Devinci Troy - Bike Pics

    Hey guys the one thing this forum lacks in is pictures. As such I thought I'd post up some pics of my new Troy. I'll give a ride report after I've had a chance to acccurately set up the suspension and ride the the Troy on varying trail conditions.

    Just as an fyi the measured head angle with a 160mm fork is 65.75deg and the bottom bracket height is 13.25".

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    Wow what an awsome bikee

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    sh!tballs, thats awesome
    more bike than I need but it looks light and fast if you ride in allot of chop lol
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    New Devinci Troy - Bike Pics

    How's she ride? Nice looking for sure!

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    I just finished my first ride on trails here in the area that are relatively smooth but with some chatter with fast tight corners, some bermed some without. The bike rode great but I'm still trying to get the susension dialed in (I'm really close) and learning where my body needs to be to optimize corning. My next step is to ride on some technically nasty trails to dial in the suspension that much more. Once I get everything dialed I'll write a more detailed ride report with a DHr's trail bike/enduro race slant to it vs. just a trail bike ride report.

    One thing I can say for sure is this bike does not need a propedal switch to climb efficiently. With that said I was playing with the climb switch on the double barrel air and all I can say is that little lever is for real and would be a great tool for those bikes that need propedal assistance for climbing. It's not just a compression lock out switch like all of the other shock offerings out there - it just adds an entirely different dimension of shock tune involving rebound control.

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    Holy Hannah! That is a sweet build. What does she weigh?
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    Beautiful, beautiful bike man

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Holy Hannah! That is a sweet build. What does she weigh?
    Thank you for all of the compliments guys. Had my Nomad not been stolen last month I would have never ended up with a bike like this. I guess what some say is true - Good things come out of bad things.

    The bike with pedals, as shown in the photos weighs 26.96lbs.

    Just as an fyi KRob if it wasn't for your Outer Bike ride report I probably wouldn't have ended up with the Troy - So thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFreak View Post
    Just as an fyi KRob if it wasn't for your Outer Bike ride report I probably wouldn't have ended up with the Troy - So thank you!
    You're welcome. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. I was frankly surprised at how much I liked the Troy. If I were buying it I'd stress a bit about which size to get. The medium felt great for the stand up, bmx, pump track type ride I did on it, but for the long climbs I do here locally I think it might be a bit short and there would be quite a bit of exposed seat post much of the time...... but the large sounds very long at 24.7" Which size did you got with? I saw some discussion on sizing in the other Troy review thread for folks right around six feet.

    Hope you get the CCDB air sorted out. It's a great shock, but with all its adjustments it can be set up to perform very poorly too.

    Anyway the Troy is a very pretty bike. Really nice lines and with the full carbon and Enve wheels you've caused me to have some serious bike envy. Great photography as well. Did you shoot those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    You're welcome. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. I was frankly surprised at how much I liked the Troy. If I were buying it I'd stress a bit about which size to get. The medium felt great for the stand up, bmx, pump track type ride I did on it, but for the long climbs I do here locally I think it might be a bit short and there would be quite a bit of exposed seat post much of the time...... but the large sounds very long at 24.7" Which size did you got with? I saw some discussion on sizing in the other Troy review thread for folks right around six feet.

    Hope you get the CCDB air sorted out. It's a great shock, but with all its adjustments it can be set up to perform very poorly too.

    Anyway the Troy is a very pretty bike. Really nice lines and with the full carbon and Enve wheels you've caused me to have some serious bike envy. Great photography as well. Did you shoot those?
    It's funny that you brought up sizing - I"m 5'-8" and was concerned about what size to get after reviewing the geo chart thinking I may need to go to a small. My bike shop recommended that I go with a medium which I'm glad I did as it fits me very nicely, giving me a little more room compared to my Nomad. I personally think that Devinci's published geo numbers are wrong because the TT and reach measurements indicate that a medium would be a size large with other manufactures.

    The shop that built my bike takes pictures of custom builds and posts them on their website and facebook.

    They also built up a really nice Dixon last week who's photos are now posted: Fanatik Bike Co. - Bellingham Wa - Intense, Turner, Ibis, Santa Cruz, Morewood, Evil, Cannondale, Norco, Felt, Surly...

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    wow what a bike! Can you please post the full specs.

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    GFreak, you're right about the troy geo chart.
    I took a tape measure to a medium trop at my local bike shop, and the effective top tube was around a little more than a half inch shorter than the geo chart says. I thought looking at the chart that I'd be ok on a medium at 5'11.5", but when I was pedaling around, I felt a little too cramped. The height sizing guide on the website does say at my height, I should be on a large.

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    any idea what the WB is? TIA

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    Per request here's the build:

    Rear Shock: Cane Creek DB Air CS
    Fork: Rock Shox Pike RCT3 Solo Air 160 27.5"
    Wheels: ENVE AM/Industry Nine Torch Classic/DT Swiss Aerolite
    Cranks: Raceface Next SL w/ DM 34T Ring
    Pedals: Twenty6 Predator Ti
    Derailleur/Cassette/Shifter/Chain: SRAM XX1
    Seatpost: Rock Shox Reverb Stealth
    Seat: WTB Devo Carbon
    Handlebar: ENVE DH
    Stem: Raceface Atlas 50mm
    Brakes: Shimano XTR Trail 203mm Front / 180mm Rear
    Tires: Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.25" SS TSC
    Upper Chainguide: Csixx
    Grips: ODI Ruffian Lockon
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    The wheelbase is 45" on the nose and the chain stay length is as published on the website.

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    Absolutely gorgeous build, congrats. Building something very similar in a Mach 6 right now. Also coming from a bike theft that forced the upgrade. Hopefully I will see it in person somewhere around the NW!

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    Re: New Devinci Troy - Bike Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by GFreak View Post
    Per request here's the build:

    Rear Shock: Cane Creek DB Air CS
    Fork: Rock Shox Pike RCT3 Solo Air 160 27.5"
    Wheels: ENVE AM/Industry Nine Torch Classic/DT Swiss Aerolite
    Cranks: Raceface Next SL w/ DM 34T Ring
    Pedals: Twenty6 Predator Ti
    Derailleur/Cassette/Shifter/Chain: SRAM XX1
    Seatpost: Rock Shox Reverb Stealth
    Seat: WTB Devo Carbon
    Handlebar: ENVE DH
    Stem: Raceface Atlas 50mm
    Brakes: Shimano XTR Trail 203mm Front / 180mm Rear
    Tires: Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.25" SS TSC
    Upper Chainguide: Csixx
    Grips: ODI Ruffian Lockon
    Great bike. What is the weight?

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    Saw that bike on vital, if I had the $$ it would be tough to top that build, very, very nice.

    How does it climb with the 160 fork? are you using travel adjust a lot?

    Congrats on a rad build.

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    Sounds like you and I need to go bike thief hunting together!

    The Mach 6 was the other bike I was looking at although the decision was made easy for me when I learned my shop stopped carrying Pivot. Nonetheless there are so many great bikes out there these days I think it's hard to pick the wrong bike.

    I hope to see you on the trails as well, maybe if you go with the Mach 6 we can switch bikes for a bit.

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    The weight is 26.96lbs as pictured.

    The bike climbs well with the 160mm fork. I'm coming from a Nomad with a custom 2 degree angleset and 170mm fork so I've adjusted my climbing style to compensate climbing on slack bikes.

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    I would enjoy that. I stop by your bike shop just about every time I am up in Bellingham for a kids soccer or baseball tournament, but I have not ridden the trails up there. Dumb, I know...well worth a 90 minute drive up. Pretty spoiled in Issaquah with the great trails around here.

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    I actually live in Kirkland, I bet we've seen each other on the trails and not known it.

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    Devinci has improperly published geo numbers - There should be properly measured numbers released very soon...
    I have several pending sales on Troys right now, waiting on that info...I'll post as soon as I hear back from them.
    Speaking of which - next shipment should be ready mid-December - who else wants one?
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    I just bought one of these beauties, waiting for my new mail order bride to make it through customs. I will say that my build will be incredibly similar to GFreak's build. As far as fit or geo numbers, it was a bit strange on paper. Longer top tube, but a good reach. With a 70mm stem, the fit will be spot on for me at 5-11.

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    Right On! Please post pictures.

    Btw pulpwoody, nice review on the Troy in the "Canadian Bike" forum - After having 4 rides on my bike I think you were spot on with your review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFreak View Post
    Right On! Please post pictures.

    Btw pulpwoody, nice review on the Troy in the "Canadian Bike" forum - After having 4 rides on my bike I think you were spot on with your review.
    Thanks GF. My previous bike was stolen a couple of months ago, and my insurance company (USAA) did my a solid and gave me really great replacement value, so I've been test riding many bikes trying to find the winner, and this bike was it. I'm anxious as hell to get it and beat the hell out of it. It's the first mountain bike that I actually felt like taking around on the street, or to the bar because it feels so good. The suspension just works so damn well.


    .....getting antsy.....

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    Sorry to hear your bike got stolen as that's my story as well, But glad to hear you've been well taken care of.

    Sounds like your bike is going to be fairly similar to mine although I'm not sure if you've decided to go with the stock fox shock. If not the CCDB is a great choice but..... only if you're a set and forget kind of guy. Don't get me wrong the CCD compliments the bike very well (I mean very well) but I like to fine adjust my suspension for every trail and the CCDB requires a tool in order to adjust it. I had the Vivid Air on my Nomad which I also loved and did not require a tool (But it does not have climb adjust), If I had to do it over again I would have gone with the Vivid Air because it does not require a tool to adjust and climb assist is not needed on the Troy.

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    I'm going with the stock Fox. I'm not much of a tinker-er, and much more of a set it, forget it type. Like you said, the Troy didn't need the climb assist and was sooooooo smooth that I don't really want to mess with it. I'll be sure to post pics and post ride thoughts. I'm really excited to be getting the Pike and custom Stans/Hope wheels, as I felt that the stock Fox fork didn't live up to the exception rear end.

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    Subscribing for a future ride report

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    What is the STA with the 160mm fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post
    What is the STA with the 160mm fork?
    I think that's a question for Devinci. Generally, if you increase the fork travel by 10mm, the HA changes by one degree....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulpwoody View Post
    I think that's a question for Devinci. Generally, if you increase the fork travel by 10mm, the HA changes by one degree....
    Actually it's 1 degree for every 20mm (change in Axle to Crown height, not travel which can vary wildly compared to A/C). Consider the 160mm travel Pike is actually only 8mm longer A/C than a 150mm Fox 34 - reduces the HTA a mere 0.4 degree.

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    Good points Gman, but to help answer Punky's question: is there an equivalent change to the STA (so each 20mm in A/C = ~1 degree there too?)

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    Excellent question SoCal - it is affected but buy just how much? I believe the whole bike rotates by 1 degree for 20mm A/C change so the STA would be 1 degree slacker for a 20mm increase in fork A/C. Keep in mind the 20 mm = 1 degree thing is also variable with wheelbase length so X-Large bikes will have less of an HTA/STA impact versus small sizes further confusing the issue!

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    how do you like those pedals. I was think about those or dmr vaults. Awesome build!!

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    I really like the pedals as they have a really wide platform and thin profile not to mention they're extremely light.

    I would also suggest Fanatik Bikes name brand pedals which are the exact same as the Loaded pedals just with a different logo etched on them and cost $30 less a pair.

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    We could debate this for days on end, grabbing a clinometer app for a smartphone and slapping it on both the fork stanchion and the dropper post stanchion would end the debate with some actual numbers.

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    Gfreak - thanks for letting me take a short spin on your Troy last weekend at Duthie. I was convinced I was going to build my new bike as a 26er, but riding your Troy convinced me to go 27.5 Your bike is unbelievable, flat out awesome. Blows away my 08 RFX. The ccdb really soaked up 2hi, but wow, the cornering! Well done!

    On a side note, GHY is now carrying Devinci.
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    Well, after a solid few days of riding over the Tday holiday, I have come to the conclusion that this bike is better than me.

    I've ridden it in super technical, fast and flowy, loose and ledgy, and nothing phases this bike. Nothing. I'm super impressed with the slow speed rock crawler ability. It's so easy to stick to a line when you're working your a$$ off grunting up a hill, that it makes climbing as close to fun as it can be.

    The confidence I have around corners now is just......wow. Precise. Balanced.

    I'm still dealing with some saddle height/fore aft/cleat placement issues giving me left knee pain, so that's a bummer. That's holding me back a bit from going full tilt on this bike, but that will soon be remedied.

    and the Pike has loosened up and is frigging great! So much traction.

    carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post
    grabbing a clinometer app for a smartphone and slapping it on both the fork stanchion and the dropper post stanchion would end the debate with some actual numbers.
    That would be ok for the head angle, but the dropper post stanchion will not give you the effective seat angle, as the seat tube has an offset by the BB. Effective seat angle depends on seat height and is not easily measurable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serotta b1kr View Post
    Gfreak - thanks for letting me take a short spin on your Troy last weekend at Duthie. I was convinced I was going to build my new bike as a 26er, but riding your Troy convinced me to go 27.5 Your bike is unbelievable, flat out awesome. Blows away my es08 RFX. The ccdb really soaked up 2hi, but wow, the cornering! Well done!

    On a side note, GHY is now carrying Devinci.
    You're very welcome! I know how hard it is to find bikes to actually test ride so I'm always happy to let others take mine for a spin.

    Btw, please check your PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serotta b1kr View Post
    Gfreak - thanks for letting me take a short spin on your Troy last weekend at Duthie. I was convinced I was going to build my new bike as a 26er, but riding your Troy convinced me to go 27.5 Your bike is unbelievable, flat out awesome. Blows away my 08 RFX. The ccdb really soaked up 2hi, but wow, the cornering! Well done!

    On a side note, GHY is now carrying Devinci.
    So, any luck? Is there a Troy in your garage yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulpwoody View Post
    So, any luck? Is there a Troy in your garage yet?
    Not quite yet. I've narrowed it down to the Troy and the Rune. Now that a local shop is carrying Devinci - I'm waiting for them to build up a Troy demo in a Large. GFreak's sweet Troy was a medium.

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    Hey pulpwoody. You say that you tested several bikes and the a Troy was the winner. Interested in what those bikes were. Looking for a 160mm 650b at the moment and keen to hear your opinions.

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    Troy pics.... Where the F are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp View Post
    Troy pics.... Where the F are they?
    Here ya go.

    New Devinci Troy - Bike Pics-img_0952.jpg

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    Pretty. Looks like it has the same setup as the process 134 I demo'd this weekend - where without a massive headset stack your seat is going to be 4" higher than your bars.

    Even with a bad back (more neck) it didn't bother me on that bike though, interestingly enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by probiscus View Post
    Pretty. Looks like it has the same setup as the process 134 I demo'd this weekend - where without a massive headset stack your seat is going to be 4" higher than your bars.

    Even with a bad back (more neck) it didn't bother me on that bike though, interestingly enough.
    I'm running 1 1/4'' of spacers, and it's perfect for me.

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    FWIW the Troy has a lower stack height than a lot of other bikes out there, even compared to 26r's. This is one of the Troy's attributes like the most.

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    @ Gfreak, Hey there had a question for you. I am just wondering what frames you are comparing your reach and stack numbers to? Compared to my Mojo HD medium frame the R and S numbers are quite a bit larger by over 20mm on each measurement (Comparing to Troy medium frame). Again this is why I have been so interested in this bike, its geometry looks pretty spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhill502 View Post
    @ Gfreak, Hey there had a question for you. I am just wondering what frames you are comparing your reach and stack numbers to? Compared to my Mojo HD medium frame the R and S numbers are quite a bit larger by over 20mm on each measurement (Comparing to Troy medium frame). Again this is why I have been so interested in this bike, its geometry looks pretty spot on.
    Hey downhill502,
    I'll start by saying most of the published frame measurements for the Troy are wrong so my comment above is based on my personal experience riding the bikes listed below with no stem risers and a flat bar:

    Carbon and aluminum Nomad (They do have different stack heights)
    Bronson
    Carbine 26 and 27.5
    Trance
    Yeti SB series 26 and 27.5

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    Ok cool, thanks for the response. Is there measurement for the theoretical top tube length seem correct, or is that actually shorter than stated? I would like more reach compared to what I currently have. Thanks for your help

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    I ride a size medium and the effective top tube that I measured on my bike is 23" which is shorter than the stated length. I'm more than happy to measure "reach" which I have not taken the time to measure yet.

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    O wow man that's a huge help! Kinda sucks though as it looks like it matches my exact geometry. Guess no excuse for a new bike lol. Thanks again for all your help.

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    I measured the large top tube on the troy at a smidge over 24". Interesting to see geo charts vs actual measurements.....makes you wonder if it's it terrible measuring by unqualified people or the manufacturer trying to skew numbers to their ideal bike......my guess would be terrible measuring!

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    Hey Guys, If you have questions about geos and specs, you can send an email to devinci customer service.

    For the frame geos on the website, we are showing virtual numbers. The simple reason to this is that with all those curved tubes, it's quite impossible for someone to measure properly, in real life.

    We are working on some solutions on our website in a near futur.

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    Well I guess that is pretty disappointing that Devinci is posting virtual measurements that everyone is after but in reality is not the case. I find it a little hard to believe that a bike manufacturer does not have access to a complete bike to pull measurements from. Yeti SB series and the new Kona Process seems to have there geo numbers dialed. I guess I am just disappointed that this bike's geo isn't what is advertised

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    One of the things I was most concerned about was the slack seattube angles posted. Sub 71˚ in the slack setting. Im guessing the actual angle instead of effective was posted originally.


    Maybe the measurements got mixed up in translation

    Wonder if they'll have demo bikes on the west coast of Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post
    Wonder if they'll have demo bikes on the west coast of Canada
    I haven't seen any - Victoria BC. My LBS can't even get a Troy on the showroom floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downhill502 View Post
    Well I guess that is pretty disappointing that Devinci is posting virtual measurements that everyone is after but in reality is not the case. I find it a little hard to believe that a bike manufacturer does not have access to a complete bike to pull measurements from. Yeti SB series and the new Kona Process seems to have there geo numbers dialed. I guess I am just disappointed that this bike's geo isn't what is advertised
    Pretty Disappointing is a bit much. Actually, demos, reviews and owners are showing pretty much interest in how the bike works on the trail..

    "Virtual" doesn't mean fake. It simply means that geo chart is calculated with an engineering software. These are the real numbers.

    Don't want to argue, just wan't to help.

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    I am still demoing a carbon Troy next week and I will definitely write about the comparison to my HD. Its just on paper it looked to be what I was looking for, which was a little more reach. But it looks to be the same geo as I have now. I am still hoping I like the bike I need an excuse to buy a new frame lol. And definitely no arguing I greatly appreciate the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhill502 View Post
    I am still demoing a carbon Troy next week and I will definitely write about the comparison to my HD. Its just on paper it looked to be what I was looking for, which was a little more reach. But it looks to be the same geo as I have now. I am still hoping I like the bike I need an excuse to buy a new frame lol. And definitely no arguing I greatly appreciate the input.
    Can't wait to read more about your experience. I'll come by this thread often to read your review. I really enjoy to read reviews from experienced riders,

    happy trails,

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    Will definitely keep you updated.

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    Will definitely keep you updated.
    Subscribed. Really interested in how the Troy compares to your HD. The builds so far all look great. Waiting on the LBS to get a Large demo frame


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    I measured the TT of a small aluminum Troy (on a shop floor) at approx 548mm. The stated measurement on the website is 587mm. HUGE difference. I measured in a horizontal line from the center of the headtube at the top, to the center of the seatpost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlavC View Post
    I measured the TT of a small aluminum Troy (on a shop floor) at approx 548mm. The stated measurement on the website is 587mm. HUGE difference. I measured in a horizontal line from the center of the headtube at the top, to the center of the seatpost.
    Definitely a bummer I will be demoing a Large Troy this weekend and will give you all some measurements off it as well as comparison to my medium Mojo HD

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    This is from Matt at Billy Goat Bikes in North Carolina, who is a killer guy by the way and knows his shit.

    Medium Troy carbon 22 13/16"
    Large Troy carbon 23 5/8"
    Large Sight alloy 23 3/4"
    Large Banshee spitfire alloy 24"
    These were measured parallel to the floor using a level and a tape measure. The Banshee is the only one who actually measures close to what they say it is.

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    Uff, that claimed TT is way off if correct... That is shorter than SC bikes, which I was directly comparing with, in my pursuit for a new frame.

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    By those measurements it looks like Devinci made their larges to be more of a tweener size for those are in between a medium and large. Evil bikes does this but they call their frames a "medium short" and "medium long".

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    Check it out a Troy made Vitalmtb's top 5 Banger Bikes list.

    Best of Vital 2013 - 5 Banger Bike Checks - Features - Vital MTB

    That bike looks very familiar......

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    BEAUTIFUL bike and definitely awesome build too! Congrats!

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    Got to finally throw my leg over a Large Carbon Troy this weekend. It had a ccdb air so I dont want to get into to much of how the performance of that was as it did not have the stock Fox installed. But with standard 30% sag setup in the rear it was fantastic. I went straight from my medium Mojo HD onto the Large Troy and it felt wonderful. A little more reach but the shorter chainstays made the feeling of being centered in the bike perfect. I really expected it to feel huge by the stated numbers but it really didnt feel much bigger than my HD. I run 50mm stem 750 havoc bars on the HD. Troy had 60mm stem and 780 bars. What I will say about the suspension is it seemed to accelerate and pedal with the same scalded cat feel(Fast) that my HD has but the bump compliance under braking due to the split pivot was amazing. HD gone, Troy on the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhill502 View Post
    the bump compliance under braking due to the split pivot was amazing.
    Possibly also due in part to the shock...
    How tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doismellbacon View Post
    Possibly also due in part to the shock...
    How tall are you?
    I am 5'8", I have a large frame on the way that will have the stock Fox rear shock. I will keep you updated on the performance of the rear suspension. I really wanted the review above to speak more about how I felt about the sizing. Let me know if you have any other questions.

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    What is the stroke and e2e lengths of the shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhill502 View Post
    I am 5'8", I have a large frame on the way that will have the stock Fox rear shock. I will keep you updated on the performance of the rear suspension. I really wanted the review above to speak more about how I felt about the sizing. Let me know if you have any other questions.

    See, this just underscores how personal sizing is. You're shorter than me, but feel more at home on the large, where I love the fit of the medium and I'm two inches taller.

    I'm glad to hear that the Troy out performs the Mojo, makes me feel even better about my purchase. I've been on mine for a couple of months now, and I'm a bit stumped on the 'performance under braking' aspect. Compared to other bikes, what does or doesn't the Troy do that other bikes would? Compared to your HD, how is it different, specifically?

    Is it that the rear end stays active when you brake? No brake jack? What the hell is brake jack anyway?

    Regarding the Fox shock, having never ridden the CCDB, I can't compare, but mine came with the Fox Kashima, and it's bad a$$. Super smooth, I have yet to put it in climb or trail setting.

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    I definitely agree on the personal sizing, as I come from motocross I am use to big bikes. As far as the performance under braking you are correct about it staying active under braking. For example my HD would stiffen up and get pretty damn harsh when charging hard into a very rooted corner when on the brakes. There was a noticeable difference in the suspension performance when on or off the brakes, where on the Troy I didn't feel that much difference on or off. Now just to be clear. I think a Mojo can be built up to handle a little more than the Troy ie 160mm and heavier frame . But for an all mountain/trail bike in my opinion it is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhill502 View Post
    I definitely agree on the personal sizing, as I come from motocross I am use to big bikes. As far as the performance under braking you are correct about it staying active under braking. For example my HD would stiffen up and get pretty damn harsh when charging hard into a very rooted corner when on the brakes. There was a noticeable difference in the suspension performance when on or off the brakes, where on the Troy I didn't feel that much difference on or off. Now just to be clear. I think a Mojo can be built up to handle a little more than the Troy ie 160mm and heavier frame . But for an all mountain/trail bike in my opinion it is better.
    Cool, got it.
    Now that I think about it, I definitely notice a difference over my last bike when I'm hitting rough corners. The Troy has way more traction in those situations, in fact, it was one of the first things I noticed.

    Riding this bike is like playing basketball with ankle weights on, then taking them off. You work so damn hard just to do the basic moves(my old bike), run, jump, and when you remove the weights,(the Troy) you feel twice as fast. What a great bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post
    What is the stroke and e2e lengths of the shock?
    6.875"x2.0"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tootrikky View Post
    6.875"x2.0"
    Doesn't the Troy take a 7.875" i2i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFreak View Post
    Doesn't the Troy take a 7.875" i2i?
    Whoops you are correct

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    I was hoping you did have a 6.785" i2i so I could learn how it rode.

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    I'm ordering my Troy XP build later this week, and was just wondering if upgrading the rear shock from the rock shox monarch to something else like the CC DB air or anything else would make a difference and how big of a difference? Thats a fair amount to drop, just want to make sure its a worth while upgrade

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    I would wait until you ride it for a while and then see. My stock fox works amazingly well, and the suspension design takes care of most of the work, not the shock.

    Personally, I would take that cash and put it towards other goodies, a new rack, new gear, or a vacation somewhere to ride the bike. $550 bucks can get me back and forth from Texas to Moab for a week of spectacular riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulpwoody View Post
    $550 bucks can get me back and forth from Texas to Moab for a week of spectacular riding.
    Damn lucky you, I live in Idaho and drive a Jeep that get 12 mpg that doesn't get me far.

    And yes I was going to ride the rock shox that comes with it to see.

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    New build. large carbon troy

    New Devinci Troy - Bike Pics-cam00245.jpgNew Devinci Troy - Bike Pics-cam00256.jpg
    Weight is with pedals. Thanks again to Matt from Billy Goat Bikes in Asheville, North Carolina. Amazing shop and awesome service.

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    That's a nice looking build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFreak View Post
    That's a nice looking build.
    Thanks fella

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    pulpwoody, you've basically talked me into this bike between this thread and the one on voodoo. After you gave me that rocket v the other day, I talked to the guys at pink gorilla and am going to demo one on Monday. I'm thinking City Park and either Walnut for the banked turns and that 1/4 mile downhill run from the school to near the wall ride or Brushy Creek for all those fast square edge drops that City Park won't let you take at speed. Either way, I'm going for the aluminum as they quoted me a hell of a deal. It was between this and the Trek Remedy 9 in 650. Both have almost identical rear ends, but the Trek comes with a factory float 34 and I'm really liking the Pike. Plus the price the guys quoted me is way more than a grand less than the Trek. Even that Turner Flux I talked about is a grand more with almost the same build.

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    New question here.

    Hi,

    For those who have installed an air CCDB Air on their troy.

    Cane Creek don't recommend this shock on this baike.
    It would have tested and argue that problems could occur at the frame or shock.

    I therefore my question: those who have mounted an AIR CCDB for some time. Have you had any problems?

    Thanks for your feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madsedan View Post
    sh!tballs, thats awesome
    more bike than I need but it looks light and fast if you ride in allot of chop lol
    "Allot" isn't a word. You should use "a lot".


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    Hey GFreak, i just picked up a 2016 Troy carbon as well and am looking to ditch the rear monarch and bump the pike to 160mm as well. What size shock is that on the Cane Creek, is it a 7.875x2.25 full stroke or did u have to shim it down at all? the factory shock is a 2" stroke. and did u put an angle set on to get that headtube angle or just the pike 160mm? The Troy rips, just needs a bit more in the rear to not bottom most of the time.

    Thanks and your bike looks sweet!!!

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