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    New Continetal Trail King 650B/27.5 Tire

    Thought you guys would like to see a few shots of this tire. Not out to the public yet, but will be soon. I am excited to try them out at this weekends Pisgah Enduro. I will give feed back after the event. I am sure they will be just as good as the 26" version.

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    2.2 Lbs (X-King is 1.62lbs)

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    Side by Side to the X-King 2.4
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    I am currently riding on the 650B x-king 2.4 tires, and really liking them.

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    Good! Anything will be better than the X-King dogshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyak View Post
    I am currently riding on the 650B x-king 2.4 tires, and really liking them.
    The X-King is a really good tire as long as you use them in the conditions they are intended for. They are a hard compact tire for dry fast conditions. I would not say its an All Mt Tire at all. That is where the Trail King comes into play. Overall both tires are great when used in the right conditions.

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    Whats the overall height on these? My 26" 2.4's were right at 27"-these are probably over 28". I can't wait to get a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtndude23 View Post
    Whats the overall height on these? My 26" 2.4's were right at 27"-these are probably over 28". I can't wait to get a pair.
    They are 27.75" high.

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    Are they black chili?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_MTB View Post
    Are they black chili?
    Yes

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    Good news on the Trail Kings. Looks like I will wait to replace my High Rollers til these become available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Good! Anything will be better than the X-King dogshit
    A friend of mine just won overall 50+ class of the Trans-Sylvia Epic on X-Kings.
    Maybe it's the rider.

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    Will the TK also be offered in a 2.2 protection casing black chili? Basically, a 27.5 version of the 26er tire that's currently available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    A friend of mine just won overall 50+ class of the Trans-Sylvia Epic on X-Kings.
    Maybe it's the rider.
    The Race Kings roll faster but are just as thoroughly mediocre in roots and wet. Crossmarks corner better. I agree with Cecil - if I was in dry and dusty maybe the X-kings would be fine but they don't work in BC.

    That race to which you're referring (trans-sylvania epic) was not that technical. In technical terrain the X-Kings are immensely mediocre.

    Back to Cecil's original post. The Trail King in 26" is a tremendous braking and good cornering tire. It's nice to see tire choices like that for aggressive terrain in the 650b size
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    HD's are better anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvs_nz View Post
    HD's are better anyway.
    In what way? They have above average braking power but tend to wash in dry loose conditions. Could we have some substance here people?
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    You do realize that tires are an extremely subjective component, who's performance can vary due to terrain, rider weight, riding style, bike, rim width, tubeless or tube, etc.

    Not exactly sure of what substance you are looking for, since you are spouting opinion just like everyone else here. Is there some metrics you care to share?

    Because you ride on the North Shore doesn't make you any more qualified to judge tires for others. Sorry.

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    reformed roadie. I totally utterly agree with you. I'm not looking for an argument. Just merely stating that it is my considered opinion that the X-king is tire which tries to be all things but is none. Some tires are fast and sacrifice grip for that speed. Some tires flip the preference. The X-King is one of those rare birds which do things poorly. For reference I rode the X-kings not just in the North Shore but also in WA, OR and AZ. I found it extremely difficult to find a situation where they would have been a tire of choice.

    The Trail Kings on the other hand were above average and superior performers in some conditions.

    The Hans Dampfs that another poster mentioned were also good tires in some situations but poor in others.

    We are all here to exchange opinions. I am not implying that anyone who likes X-Kings is stupid or incompetent and I hope I didn't imply that. Merely that I found them disappointingly mediocre.


    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    You do realize that tires are an extremely subjective component, who's performance can vary due to terrain, rider weight, riding style, bike, rim width, tubeless or tube, etc.

    Not exactly sure of what substance you are looking for, since you are spouting opinion just like everyone else here. Is there some metrics you care to share?

    Because you ride on the North Shore doesn't make you any more qualified to judge tires for others. Sorry.
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    Good restraint to rr.

    Now, to switch it up abit, do you run the Crossmarx on your TB? Given the appropriate season of course. I just got some set up on my 650 ht. But awaiting a replacement der hanger to replace the relatively new one that the shop broke. I'm wondering if they'll charge me for it.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Good restraint to rr.

    Now, to switch it up abit, do you run the Crossmarx on your TB? Given the appropriate season of course. I just got some set up on my 650 ht. But awaiting a replacement der hanger to replace the relatively new one that the shop broke. I'm wondering if they'll charge me for it.
    I have a Maxxis Ignitor on the rear of the Tallboy. Run Crossmarks on two 26" bikes rear and an Ardent rear on a 650b medium-long travel bike so I'd imagine both tires would work well in the 29er version. I do think the Aspens are a fantastic light weight choice for rear for the short travel bikes but they suffer from being single purpose mud/wet tires. For dry conditions, the Race Kings, Ignitor/Larsen/Crossmarks family (all of which share the same characteristics of having supple casings and somewhat taller knobs do well. The RKs don't have that supple casing or taller knobs but are ridiculously fast.
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    So not fond of a CM up front?

    I picked up the 2nd CM figuring if I didn't like it up front on ht I'd use on back of the 650 fs but thinking an Ardent would work great on back of that too.

    Thanks in advance
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    So not fond of a CM up front?

    I picked up the 2nd CM figuring if I didn't like it up front on ht I'd use on back of the 650 fs but thinking an Ardent would work great on back of that too.

    Thanks in advance
    I have no idea why I said Ignitor when I meant Maxxis Ikon.

    I've seen others use Crossmarks up front but not tried them suspecting that they would lack braking power.
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    Cool thx. Yeah saw Ignitor and said uhmm ok?
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    When will Continentals 650b tires be available?

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    I bought mine from:

    - Best-Bike-Parts

    They have X-King and Mountain King in stock I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER View Post
    They are 27.75" high.

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    This 2.4 version sounds like it's slightly downsized tire compared to the 26" version.. like the 2.35 HD was to the 26" version, they knocked off some size

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    I have both the Schwalbe's and Conti's and both are excellent tires. German tires are like Porsche's - high performance. I have the 2.4 Conti Mountain King's on my HD and they grip like sandpaper and are super squishy.

    I imagine these 27.5s will be just as good, if not better on this larger format. Nice!
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    Conti announcements vs actual release

    Is there any idea on when this unicorn is supposed to make an appearance? All I have to go by is the now 1.5 years and still waiting for the Conti TK TL-ready 2.4 x 29er Black Chili...

    I finally gave up and went w/ a DHF/DHR2 combo.
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    I've had them for a month now, but have used the Mountain King II because it's been dry here. MKII in 27.5 has a carcass width of 160mm, and in 26" it is 155mm. It's larger and squarer, with bigger knobs. TK in 27.5" is 163mm, but is 168mm in 26". Still huge, though. Nobby Nick 27.5"x2.35" is tiny 150mm. Downside to TK is weight, mine are 1030g each for ProTection Black Chili.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    I've had them for a month now, but have used the Mountain King II because it's been dry here. MKII in 27.5 has a carcass width of 160mm, and in 26" it is 155mm. It's larger and squarer, with bigger knobs. TK in 27.5" is 163mm, but is 168mm in 26". Still huge, though. Nobby Nick 27.5"x2.35" is tiny 150mm. Downside to TK is weight, mine are 1030g each for ProTection Black Chili.
    I love the 26's on my Mojo. Awesome squishy traction. I'd love to try these in 27.5!
    Where did you get them? They're not showing up on Google searches for sale.

    Wow, 1030g's. That's a beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    I've had them for a month now, but have used the Mountain King II because it's been dry here. MKII in 27.5 has a carcass width of 160mm, and in 26" it is 155mm. It's larger and squarer, with bigger knobs. TK in 27.5" is 163mm, but is 168mm in 26". Still huge, though. Nobby Nick 27.5"x2.35" is tiny 150mm. Downside to TK is weight, mine are 1030g each for ProTection Black Chili.
    How tall are your 27.5" MKII & TK's?

    Addicted to the black chili..
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    I love the 26's on my Mojo. Awesome squishy traction. I'd love to try these in 27.5!
    Where did you get them? They're not showing up on Google searches for sale.

    Wow, 1030g's. That's a beast.
    I found them at Best-Bike-Parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhill View Post
    How tall are your 27.5" MKII & TK's?

    Addicted to the black chili..
    It all depends on the rim. On a LB Wide carbon rim and 25psi they both clear the arch of my Van36 by 3mm or so. They both have the same height, as the MKII has taller center knobs than the TK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    I found them at Best-Bike-Parts
    Do you read German? Funny, there's no translation option on the site. And their listing says 770grams. Claimed vs. real world difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    Do you read German? Funny, there's no translation option on the site. And their listing says 770grams. Claimed vs. real world difference
    You're looking at the Mountain King. Trail King is no longer listed, I see. I guess they sold out.

    Doesn't everybody read at least a little bit German? Anyways, you can just enter the website url into google translate yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    It all depends on the rim. On a LB Wide carbon rim and 25psi they both clear the arch of my Van36 by 3mm or so. They both have the same height, as the MKII has taller center knobs than the TK.
    do they clear the crown as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    Do you read German? Funny, there's no translation option on the site. And their listing says 770grams. Claimed vs. real world difference
    That's where I got mine from, I went through ebay though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    do they clear the crown as well?
    Yes, by the same amount.

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    shipping doubles the price my luck they'll be available in the US next week.
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    That's where I got mine from, I went through ebay though.
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    Haha.... in Google Translate it says "Now available in the mediocre 650b size".

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    Dang. This weekend, after hitting a sharp-edged rock on my HD the MK rear cut right at the bead. Now it's useless as tubeless but can be used as a tube tire. Oh well, not all tires are indestructible.

    Still, the drumroll for 27.5 US release....at a theatre near you.
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    The 27.5x2.4 ProTection tires are available here

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    That is for the Mountain King, but the Trail King is on Universal too. 990 grams for 2.4? Seems too heavy.

    Universal Cycles -- Continental Trail King ProTection Tire 2014 - 650b (27.5")

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    I have been waiting very patiently for the Trail King 2.4s to arrive and today I received a notification e-mail they were finally in stock (here).

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    So after waiting like everyone else for the TK 2.2 to materialize, I find them on Bike Bling last week and promptly order a pair.
    They were due to arrive yesterday via the Brown Santa truck.
    I track them on UPS.com and it says "Exception: Train Derailment."
    WTF?
    Apparently, I am not meant to ride these tires...

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    HAHA! That's classic.

    Sorry dude.

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    TK 2.2 Protection Measurements & Weight?

    If you have the Trail King 2.2 Protection can you post the mounted measurements? Looking for total height, casing width and knob width. Also note what rim you are using. If you have the actual weight can you post that, too?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgman25 View Post
    That is for the Mountain King, but the Trail King is on Universal too. 990 grams for 2.4? Seems too heavy.

    Universal Cycles -- Continental Trail King ProTection Tire 2014 - 650b (27.5")
    It's no XC race tread for sure, but for a tire of this size with extra reinforcement of the casing and bead area, it's not really THAT heavy. I suspect it will be really popular in all the enduro series popping up everywhere.

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    Just put on my X King 27.5 x 2.2 tires last night. Maybe I can get a ride in today but my first impression is not as hoped. The width is actually 2.0 with a Stans Crest rim. I realize a wider rim will give a wider tire but there is a very noticable difference between the X King and RR. The RR was dead on 2.25 with the Stan's rim. The diameter is over 0.31" smaller than my RRs (2.25) and the X-King had only slightly taller knobs. I'm going to have to use 2.4 X King to get the same comparable size of the RR which will increase weight. So, I'll be switching back to the RR when race season rolls around.

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    I'm riding X King 27.5 2.4 up front. I'm sure a lot of it is improper technique, but i've never had my front tire want to wash out so much around turns with a cross slope. Anyone else have similar thoughts?

    The trail kings look like they won't have this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudBike View Post
    If you have the Trail King 2.2 Protection can you post the mounted measurements? Looking for total height, casing width and knob width. Also note what rim you are using. If you have the actual weight can you post that, too?
    Thanks
    I am very interested in these measurements and the weight. Thanks.

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