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    New Continetal Trail King 650B/27.5 Tire

    Thought you guys would like to see a few shots of this tire. Not out to the public yet, but will be soon. I am excited to try them out at this weekends Pisgah Enduro. I will give feed back after the event. I am sure they will be just as good as the 26" version.

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    Side by Side to the X-King 2.4
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    I am currently riding on the 650B x-king 2.4 tires, and really liking them.

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    Good! Anything will be better than the X-King dogshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyak View Post
    I am currently riding on the 650B x-king 2.4 tires, and really liking them.
    The X-King is a really good tire as long as you use them in the conditions they are intended for. They are a hard compact tire for dry fast conditions. I would not say its an All Mt Tire at all. That is where the Trail King comes into play. Overall both tires are great when used in the right conditions.

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    Whats the overall height on these? My 26" 2.4's were right at 27"-these are probably over 28". I can't wait to get a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtndude23 View Post
    Whats the overall height on these? My 26" 2.4's were right at 27"-these are probably over 28". I can't wait to get a pair.
    They are 27.75" high.

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    Are they black chili?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_MTB View Post
    Are they black chili?
    Yes

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    Good news on the Trail Kings. Looks like I will wait to replace my High Rollers til these become available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Good! Anything will be better than the X-King dogshit
    A friend of mine just won overall 50+ class of the Trans-Sylvia Epic on X-Kings.
    Maybe it's the rider.

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    Will the TK also be offered in a 2.2 protection casing black chili? Basically, a 27.5 version of the 26er tire that's currently available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    A friend of mine just won overall 50+ class of the Trans-Sylvia Epic on X-Kings.
    Maybe it's the rider.
    The Race Kings roll faster but are just as thoroughly mediocre in roots and wet. Crossmarks corner better. I agree with Cecil - if I was in dry and dusty maybe the X-kings would be fine but they don't work in BC.

    That race to which you're referring (trans-sylvania epic) was not that technical. In technical terrain the X-Kings are immensely mediocre.

    Back to Cecil's original post. The Trail King in 26" is a tremendous braking and good cornering tire. It's nice to see tire choices like that for aggressive terrain in the 650b size
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    HD's are better anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvs_nz View Post
    HD's are better anyway.
    In what way? They have above average braking power but tend to wash in dry loose conditions. Could we have some substance here people?
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    You do realize that tires are an extremely subjective component, who's performance can vary due to terrain, rider weight, riding style, bike, rim width, tubeless or tube, etc.

    Not exactly sure of what substance you are looking for, since you are spouting opinion just like everyone else here. Is there some metrics you care to share?

    Because you ride on the North Shore doesn't make you any more qualified to judge tires for others. Sorry.

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    reformed roadie. I totally utterly agree with you. I'm not looking for an argument. Just merely stating that it is my considered opinion that the X-king is tire which tries to be all things but is none. Some tires are fast and sacrifice grip for that speed. Some tires flip the preference. The X-King is one of those rare birds which do things poorly. For reference I rode the X-kings not just in the North Shore but also in WA, OR and AZ. I found it extremely difficult to find a situation where they would have been a tire of choice.

    The Trail Kings on the other hand were above average and superior performers in some conditions.

    The Hans Dampfs that another poster mentioned were also good tires in some situations but poor in others.

    We are all here to exchange opinions. I am not implying that anyone who likes X-Kings is stupid or incompetent and I hope I didn't imply that. Merely that I found them disappointingly mediocre.


    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    You do realize that tires are an extremely subjective component, who's performance can vary due to terrain, rider weight, riding style, bike, rim width, tubeless or tube, etc.

    Not exactly sure of what substance you are looking for, since you are spouting opinion just like everyone else here. Is there some metrics you care to share?

    Because you ride on the North Shore doesn't make you any more qualified to judge tires for others. Sorry.
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    Good restraint to rr.

    Now, to switch it up abit, do you run the Crossmarx on your TB? Given the appropriate season of course. I just got some set up on my 650 ht. But awaiting a replacement der hanger to replace the relatively new one that the shop broke. I'm wondering if they'll charge me for it.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Good restraint to rr.

    Now, to switch it up abit, do you run the Crossmarx on your TB? Given the appropriate season of course. I just got some set up on my 650 ht. But awaiting a replacement der hanger to replace the relatively new one that the shop broke. I'm wondering if they'll charge me for it.
    I have a Maxxis Ignitor on the rear of the Tallboy. Run Crossmarks on two 26" bikes rear and an Ardent rear on a 650b medium-long travel bike so I'd imagine both tires would work well in the 29er version. I do think the Aspens are a fantastic light weight choice for rear for the short travel bikes but they suffer from being single purpose mud/wet tires. For dry conditions, the Race Kings, Ignitor/Larsen/Crossmarks family (all of which share the same characteristics of having supple casings and somewhat taller knobs do well. The RKs don't have that supple casing or taller knobs but are ridiculously fast.
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    So not fond of a CM up front?

    I picked up the 2nd CM figuring if I didn't like it up front on ht I'd use on back of the 650 fs but thinking an Ardent would work great on back of that too.

    Thanks in advance
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    So not fond of a CM up front?

    I picked up the 2nd CM figuring if I didn't like it up front on ht I'd use on back of the 650 fs but thinking an Ardent would work great on back of that too.

    Thanks in advance
    I have no idea why I said Ignitor when I meant Maxxis Ikon.

    I've seen others use Crossmarks up front but not tried them suspecting that they would lack braking power.
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    Cool thx. Yeah saw Ignitor and said uhmm ok?
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    When will Continentals 650b tires be available?

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    I bought mine from:

    - Best-Bike-Parts

    They have X-King and Mountain King in stock I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER View Post
    They are 27.75" high.

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    This 2.4 version sounds like it's slightly downsized tire compared to the 26" version.. like the 2.35 HD was to the 26" version, they knocked off some size

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    I have both the Schwalbe's and Conti's and both are excellent tires. German tires are like Porsche's - high performance. I have the 2.4 Conti Mountain King's on my HD and they grip like sandpaper and are super squishy.

    I imagine these 27.5s will be just as good, if not better on this larger format. Nice!
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    Conti announcements vs actual release

    Is there any idea on when this unicorn is supposed to make an appearance? All I have to go by is the now 1.5 years and still waiting for the Conti TK TL-ready 2.4 x 29er Black Chili...

    I finally gave up and went w/ a DHF/DHR2 combo.

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    I've had them for a month now, but have used the Mountain King II because it's been dry here. MKII in 27.5 has a carcass width of 160mm, and in 26" it is 155mm. It's larger and squarer, with bigger knobs. TK in 27.5" is 163mm, but is 168mm in 26". Still huge, though. Nobby Nick 27.5"x2.35" is tiny 150mm. Downside to TK is weight, mine are 1030g each for ProTection Black Chili.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    I've had them for a month now, but have used the Mountain King II because it's been dry here. MKII in 27.5 has a carcass width of 160mm, and in 26" it is 155mm. It's larger and squarer, with bigger knobs. TK in 27.5" is 163mm, but is 168mm in 26". Still huge, though. Nobby Nick 27.5"x2.35" is tiny 150mm. Downside to TK is weight, mine are 1030g each for ProTection Black Chili.
    I love the 26's on my Mojo. Awesome squishy traction. I'd love to try these in 27.5!
    Where did you get them? They're not showing up on Google searches for sale.

    Wow, 1030g's. That's a beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    I've had them for a month now, but have used the Mountain King II because it's been dry here. MKII in 27.5 has a carcass width of 160mm, and in 26" it is 155mm. It's larger and squarer, with bigger knobs. TK in 27.5" is 163mm, but is 168mm in 26". Still huge, though. Nobby Nick 27.5"x2.35" is tiny 150mm. Downside to TK is weight, mine are 1030g each for ProTection Black Chili.
    How tall are your 27.5" MKII & TK's?

    Addicted to the black chili..
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    I love the 26's on my Mojo. Awesome squishy traction. I'd love to try these in 27.5!
    Where did you get them? They're not showing up on Google searches for sale.

    Wow, 1030g's. That's a beast.
    I found them at Best-Bike-Parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhill View Post
    How tall are your 27.5" MKII & TK's?

    Addicted to the black chili..
    It all depends on the rim. On a LB Wide carbon rim and 25psi they both clear the arch of my Van36 by 3mm or so. They both have the same height, as the MKII has taller center knobs than the TK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    I found them at Best-Bike-Parts
    Do you read German? Funny, there's no translation option on the site. And their listing says 770grams. Claimed vs. real world difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    Do you read German? Funny, there's no translation option on the site. And their listing says 770grams. Claimed vs. real world difference
    You're looking at the Mountain King. Trail King is no longer listed, I see. I guess they sold out.

    Doesn't everybody read at least a little bit German? Anyways, you can just enter the website url into google translate yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    It all depends on the rim. On a LB Wide carbon rim and 25psi they both clear the arch of my Van36 by 3mm or so. They both have the same height, as the MKII has taller center knobs than the TK.
    do they clear the crown as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    Do you read German? Funny, there's no translation option on the site. And their listing says 770grams. Claimed vs. real world difference
    That's where I got mine from, I went through ebay though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    do they clear the crown as well?
    Yes, by the same amount.

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    shipping doubles the price my luck they'll be available in the US next week.
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    That's where I got mine from, I went through ebay though.
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    Haha.... in Google Translate it says "Now available in the mediocre 650b size".

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    Dang. This weekend, after hitting a sharp-edged rock on my HD the MK rear cut right at the bead. Now it's useless as tubeless but can be used as a tube tire. Oh well, not all tires are indestructible.

    Still, the drumroll for 27.5 US release....at a theatre near you.
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    The 27.5x2.4 ProTection tires are available here

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    That is for the Mountain King, but the Trail King is on Universal too. 990 grams for 2.4? Seems too heavy.

    Universal Cycles -- Continental Trail King ProTection Tire 2014 - 650b (27.5")

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    I have been waiting very patiently for the Trail King 2.4s to arrive and today I received a notification e-mail they were finally in stock (here).

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    So after waiting like everyone else for the TK 2.2 to materialize, I find them on Bike Bling last week and promptly order a pair.
    They were due to arrive yesterday via the Brown Santa truck.
    I track them on UPS.com and it says "Exception: Train Derailment."
    WTF?
    Apparently, I am not meant to ride these tires...

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    HAHA! That's classic.

    Sorry dude.

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    TK 2.2 Protection Measurements & Weight?

    If you have the Trail King 2.2 Protection can you post the mounted measurements? Looking for total height, casing width and knob width. Also note what rim you are using. If you have the actual weight can you post that, too?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgman25 View Post
    That is for the Mountain King, but the Trail King is on Universal too. 990 grams for 2.4? Seems too heavy.

    Universal Cycles -- Continental Trail King ProTection Tire 2014 - 650b (27.5")
    It's no XC race tread for sure, but for a tire of this size with extra reinforcement of the casing and bead area, it's not really THAT heavy. I suspect it will be really popular in all the enduro series popping up everywhere.

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    Just put on my X King 27.5 x 2.2 tires last night. Maybe I can get a ride in today but my first impression is not as hoped. The width is actually 2.0 with a Stans Crest rim. I realize a wider rim will give a wider tire but there is a very noticable difference between the X King and RR. The RR was dead on 2.25 with the Stan's rim. The diameter is over 0.31" smaller than my RRs (2.25) and the X-King had only slightly taller knobs. I'm going to have to use 2.4 X King to get the same comparable size of the RR which will increase weight. So, I'll be switching back to the RR when race season rolls around.

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    I'm riding X King 27.5 2.4 up front. I'm sure a lot of it is improper technique, but i've never had my front tire want to wash out so much around turns with a cross slope. Anyone else have similar thoughts?

    The trail kings look like they won't have this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudBike View Post
    If you have the Trail King 2.2 Protection can you post the mounted measurements? Looking for total height, casing width and knob width. Also note what rim you are using. If you have the actual weight can you post that, too?
    Thanks
    I am very interested in these measurements and the weight. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doismellbacon View Post
    HAHA! That's classic.

    Sorry dude.
    Contis showed up yesterday.

    As a side note:
    I got my first ride on a Hutchinson Cougar on the rear, after trashing a Racing Ralph on Sunday. The Cougar was pretty good. Didn't get to dial the pressure, and I think it is harder to judge things as well in the dark, since your senses are being stressed more, but it certainly wasn't bad.

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    anyone has measured TK 2.2. ht, knob width?

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    Quick bump as interested in the measurements as well. Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    anyone has measured TK 2.2. ht, knob width?
    I'm also worry about the size of TK 2.2 is too narrow.

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    Was about to pull the trigger on a few new 2.2's, but now just saw the Specialized tires coming out. Last few bikes have been Enduros with Butcher in the front and Purgatory rear. Any comparisons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    anyone has measured TK 2.2. ht, knob width?
    From memory TK 2.2 knob width was only about 53mm,casing is a much wider probably closer to 56mm .Good solid edge at that width though and probably about where most would lean a trail bike especially when it's muddy. Would easily have better cornering traction of a 2.35 No Ni but not a HD. Climbing traction in spades.Tall though , as tall as a No Ni or H 2.35.

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    This tire may not be an overly large tire, but...it could be useful for people like me looking for something that is just a bit smaller than an Evolution Racing Ralph 2.25.

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    The TK 2.2 won't. A mk2 2.2 will.

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    I have the 2.2 trail kings 650b. Black chili protection. They are an excellent tire. Traction galore. And they roll well for such a knobby. I noticed that the sidewalks are quite thick and the tires can actually run on less pressure even tubed. I run mine at 20psi front and 24psi rear. More pressure than that and it seems bouncy/harsh. Haven't pinch flatted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobym2 View Post
    I have the 2.2 trail kings 650b. Black chili protection. They are an excellent tire. Traction galore. And they roll well for such a knobby. I noticed that the sidewalks are quite thick and the tires can actually run on less pressure even tubed. I run mine at 20psi front and 24psi rear. More pressure than that and it seems bouncy/harsh. Haven't pinch flatted.
    Are your trail kings really 2.2 big or a little bigger? They say trail kings run bigger than stated, I hope it's true for 27.5 size as well. Since MKIIs run much smaller I don't really trust their sizing.

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    They are taller but not wider as in my post only 5 above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvs_nz View Post
    They are taller but not wider as in my post only 5 above?
    My bad, missed it somehow. 53mm is not much. Not like traction was only about width. Still, I don't know why continental doesn't make 2.3 sized tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailrider24 View Post
    Are your trail kings really 2.2 big or a little bigger? They say trail kings run bigger than stated, I hope it's true for 27.5 size as well. Since MKIIs run much smaller I don't really trust their sizing.
    The 2.2 TKs are wide at the casing, but the tread/knobs are slightly narrower. Its huge for a 2.2. As wide and voluminous as the High Roller II 2.3, but the HRII I think corners better (due to the better side knobs, I suppose). The Black Chili Conti sizing is bigger. The non-black chili Contis are way undersized (at least the ones I've had before).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobym2 View Post
    The 2.2 TKs are wide at the casing, but the tread/knobs are slightly narrower. Its huge for a 2.2. As wide and voluminous as the High Roller II 2.3, but the HRII I think corners better (due to the better side knobs, I suppose). The Black Chili Conti sizing is bigger. The non-black chili Contis are way undersized (at least the ones I've had before).
    I'm considering getting Trail Kings front and rear or High Roller II front Ardent rear, but I can't decide which one would make a better fit and forget all season combination.
    I know that the HRII has a bit more traction and can be used tubeless very well, because it seals properly, but it has that blank spot in the thread and the grippier compound is very pricey. The 60a isn't as good as the black chili I assume and the 3c maxterra wears faster being more of a "race" compound.

    On the other hand the trail kings are less agressive in 2.2, but too heavy in 2.4.(for trail/am) There aren't many comments about tubeless running, and those few were about unsuccessful attempts or at least hard hours of shaking until they sealed.
    But the black chili compound is awesome. I have MKIIs and use them for more than a year, and there's almost no wear, only tire hairs disappeared. Pucture protection is also good, 1 in 1000km.

    So it's not easy to decide. How's the trail king rear? Isn't it very draggy? Even my MKII is a pig to climb with sometimes..

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    THe 2.4 TK in the front is totally worth it. I switched it up and went with a hans damf. Not even comparable IMO. The ardent rolls the best but grips the least. Good rear tire. Think I'm gonna go TK front ardent rear next or perhaps minion front

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    Tried the 27.5 TK's in 2.2" on my Mach 6 and didn't like them at all. So I swapped in some 2.35" Hans Damfs which are great.

    I had the same issue trying the 26er TK's in 2.2" so I guess I am just not a fan of this tire except in the 2.4" version. I love the 2.4" version on my 26er Nomad.

    I'm going to give the HDs a couple months and then I'll either keep running them or try some 2.4" TKs on the M6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I'm going to give the HDs a couple months and then I'll either keep running them or try some 2.4" TKs on the M6.
    A couple of months is all you'll get before at least the rear is shot.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    A couple of months is all you'll get before at least the rear is shot.
    I'm running the soft compound rear HD so I'm not expecting longevity from it. Since it's still quite slick out I'll take the traction I get and replace it with a harder compound for the summer if I stick with HDs.
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    I love the TK and MK combo but dang these are heavy suckers. Even the 26x2.4 TK is 0.7 oz heavier than the 27.5x2.25 Hans Damph. That's more than 1/2lb. BUT the traction is superb and the wear excellent.

    I was going to go with TK's both front and rear. I like the staggered knobby edges for cornering. I love how it's predictable for railing.

    But are they ok with Stan's sealant in the non-UST version? The UST is way too heavy
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    But are they ok with Stan's sealant in the non-UST version? The UST is way too heavy
    No issue with Stans on Light Bicycle hookless rims using 2.2" TKs Protection version ~770g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    No issue with Stans on Light Bicycle hookless rims using 2.2" TKs Protection version ~770g.
    Thanks. I saw some pics of the non-UST TK with Stan's leaking out the sidewalls like snow it was so bad. I was about to buy the Orange Sealant that seems to get good reviews but that stuffs expensive at $15/8oz. Dang, thats like gold at that price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdaysunrise View Post
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    Just select your Brand and Tire Model on the left, then the size and you get the numbers.
    What the heck? This is a confusing site, even for the Germans from the looks of it. I don't see a button to place orders or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    Thanks. I saw some pics of the non-UST TK with Stan's leaking out the sidewalls like snow it was so bad. I was about to buy the Orange Sealant that seems to get good reviews but that stuffs expensive at $15/8oz. Dang, thats like gold at that price.
    I've setup qty4 2.2" TKs in 27.5" tubeless with stans [ 2 LB rims and 2 DT Swiss rims] as well as another qty2 26er 2.2" TKs on DT Swiss rims with Stan's.

    No major issues with any of them.

    You can always get a bum tire, but the vendor should replace it if you do.
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    [QUOTE=vikb;11166005]I've setup qty4 2.2" TKs in 27.5" tubeless with stans [ 2 LB rims and 2 DT Swiss rims] as well as another qty2 26er 2.2" TKs on DT Swiss rims with Stan's.

    No major issues with any of them.

    You can always get a bum tire, but the vendor should replace it if you do.[/QUOForTE]


    For the past two months my Stans ZTR Flow EXs have had Conti Trail Kings 2.4 with Protection. One burp, one leak when I "shifted" the rim tape on a stump. I air up before each ride, but they hold pressure pretty well. (e.g. I was running the back at 20lbs on Friday and Monday night at wheels down there was only 15lbs left.)

    They did absorb about one Stan's sealant dose in the first month or so and had to be reloaded.

    Have a great ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I've setup qty4 2.2" TKs in 27.5" tubeless with stans [ 2 LB rims and 2 DT Swiss rims] as well as another qty2 26er 2.2" TKs on DT Swiss rims with Stan's.

    No major issues with any of them.

    You can always get a bum tire, but the vendor should replace it if you do.[/QUOForTE]


    For the past two months my Stans ZTR Flow EXs have had Conti Trail Kings 2.4 with Protection. One burp, one leak when I "shifted" the rim tape on a stump. I air up before each ride, but they hold pressure pretty well. (e.g. I was running the back at 20lbs on Friday and Monday night at wheels down there was only 15lbs left.)

    They did absorb about one Stan's sealant dose in the first month or so and had to be reloaded.

    Have a great ride.
    Thanks. That's two confirmations on Stans working ok with these tires. As for absorbing the Stans, all new tires I've had do that. I always squirt about 5 little red Stans cups for new tires and still it can be dry after about 2 months. It's like the tires are drinking the stuff.

    I bought some Orange sealant for extra insurance still. I'm looking forward to the ride with these monsters. TKs front and rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdaysunrise View Post
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    Handy site. thanks

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    Finally got my TK's mounted, been waiting on some new wheels for a while.
    I noticed what I first thought was just some copper paint/color that had rubbed onto the sidewalls, but it's pretty uniform and appears to be the threads of the tire? I've got the 27.5x2.4 ProTection + Apex and 27.5x2.2 ProTection and noticed this on both of them.
    This is my first set of Continental tires, I've never noticed something like this on Maxxis or Schwalbe tires. Anyone else noticed this and can explain what it is?
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    I can't get these to seal on Derby rims. I've even tried airing them up with 150 psi and it just won't seal. I've done the soapy thing and have mounted many tubeless tires in the past so I know what I'm doing.

    Anyone else have problems mounting? 2.4 Protection
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    I can't get these to seal on Derby rims. I've even tried airing them up with 150 psi and it just won't seal. I've done the soapy thing and have mounted many tubeless tires in the past so I know what I'm doing.

    Anyone else have problems mounting? 2.4 Protection
    150psi?...yikes...have a look closely at the beads and the rim. I wouldn't be surprised if you damaged them. If the beads are not intact they'll never seal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    150psi?...yikes...have a look closely at the beads and the rim. I wouldn't be surprised if you damaged them. If the beads are not intact they'll never seal.
    I only had the air compressor to 150psi, I didn't seal the tires at that psi, just to clarify. Anyhow, I finally had to add another layer of tape. That finally did the trick. These tires seem to be a looser fit than Schwalbes as sealant kept coming out for awhile but they held air overnight tighly, no loose of pressure.

    Man, these are the best tires ever. Excellent predictable grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonays View Post
    Finally got my TK's mounted, been waiting on some new wheels for a while.
    I noticed what I first thought was just some copper paint/color that had rubbed onto the sidewalls, but it's pretty uniform and appears to be the threads of the tire? I've got the 27.5x2.4 ProTection + Apex and 27.5x2.2 ProTection and noticed this on both of them.
    This is my first set of Continental tires, I've never noticed something like this on Maxxis or Schwalbe tires. Anyone else noticed this and can explain what it is?
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    I had premature sidewall wear showing worse than that on my Mountain Kings, not the TKs. I talked with a Conti rep and he said he didn't know about this issue but that it shouldn't affect the tire's integrity. But mine was bad enough that the casing's copper coloring was exposed (Like yours). I didn't want to take chances so I returned the tires under warranty to my shop. The TKs however, have always been fine.

    Keep us posted if this gets worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonays View Post
    Finally got my TK's mounted, been waiting on some new wheels for a while.
    I noticed what I first thought was just some copper paint/color that had rubbed onto the sidewalls, but it's pretty uniform and appears to be the threads of the tire? I've got the 27.5x2.4 ProTection + Apex and 27.5x2.2 ProTection and noticed this on both of them.
    This is my first set of Continental tires, I've never noticed something like this on Maxxis or Schwalbe tires. Anyone else noticed this and can explain what it is?
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    Completely normal, all of my Conti's (TK's and MK's Protection) have done this and never had an issue long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    I didn't want to take chances so I returned the tires under warranty to my shop. The TKs however, have always been fine.

    Keep us posted if this gets worse
    I'm running these tubeless, but I guess for a warranty claim it wouldn't matter if there's sealant all over. I think I bought them online, I'll have to see what my options are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    I can't get these to seal on Derby rims. I've even tried airing them up with 150 psi and it just won't seal. I've done the soapy thing and have mounted many tubeless tires in the past so I know what I'm doing.

    Anyone else have problems mounting? 2.4 Protection
    Remove the valve core and it will seat immediately, just be careful. It will air/bead up IMMEDIATELY. If not careful you will blow the tire right off the rim probably damaging both. Should take less than 2 seconds to air it up to 40 PSI this way. All the air will come out as soon as you remove the compressor, then reinstall the core and pump up to your normal pressure. Conti's do not need an extra wrap to bead up on my rims when I do it this way.

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    Just picked up a pair of the X-King Protection 650b/2.4 tires to replace the Race Kings it came with. Just getting too many flats with the Race Kings. Performance knocked $40 off the pair price so I got a really good deal on them. Mostly packed dirt around here, some exposed roots, where I ride it isn't overly technical, at least nothing the Race Kings had a problem with. Going to upgrade to a better wheel and go tubeless so if these X-Kings work out, I'll already have tubeless compatible tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Remove the valve core and it will seat immediately, just be careful. It will air/bead up IMMEDIATELY. If not careful you will blow the tire right off the rim probably damaging both. Should take less than 2 seconds to air it up to 40 PSI this way. All the air will come out as soon as you remove the compressor, then reinstall the core and pump up to your normal pressure. Conti's do not need an extra wrap to bead up on my rims when I do it this way.
    Will this work with a floor pump? Have been trying to mount tires on my first pair of hookless rims and it has been impossible. This might be the fix I needed!

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    New Continetal Trail King 650B/27.5 Tire

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickbrown View Post
    Will this work with a floor pump? Have been trying to mount tires on my first pair of hookless rims and it has been impossible. This might be the fix I needed!
    It will definitely help.

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    New Continetal Trail King 650B/27.5 Tire

    I had TKs front and back on my burner. They didn't last 10 rides before the casings were completely deformed. They were the protection with black chili and were ok when new but nowhere near as good as the magic Mary purgatory combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    It will definitely help.
    Thanks! This is going to change my life!

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