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    Mondraker Dune Build Information

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    Frame: 2015 Mondraker Dune XR size XL
    Shock: BOS Kirk
    Fork: BOS Idylle SC coil 180 travel 36 stantion 20 axle
    Drive: 2 x 9
    Wheels: Flow EX/ Hopes 650b f 26 inch r
    Brakes: Formula The One 180/160
    Tyres: Magic Mary f Rubber Queen r
    Saddle: Fabric Scoop
    Pedals: Chromag
    Grips: ESI
    Bar: Nukeproof 800 x 20
    Stem: 30
    Cranks: RF Sixc 175 36/22 Blackspire
    FD : SLX
    RD : X0
    Cassette: Sram 11/26

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    Mondraker Dune Build Information

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    Future plans:

    Fork: Idylle SC air
    Drive: 1 x 11 or 2 x 10 or 1 x 10 with extender and 36 ring, chain guide, non wide narrow and non clutch?
    Wheels: Derby Carbon or Ryde. Alternatively Carbon f and Aluminium r 650b both ends or 650b f 26 r?
    Tyres: HD and RR rear
    Seatpost: Stealth Reverb

    I will post as I go.

    Ride Impressions:

    So far very impressed. The longer wheel base and shorter stem combination really works. No problem in twisty single track with the increased WB, in fact it is better. The short stem really helps here. Nice balance and feel to the bike. Stable and fast. So far so good...I need to try it out on some steeper terrain...hopefully this weekend.

    Gripes: DT Swiss axle...I don't like the loose bits, I can see those getting lost.
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    Cool bike Loamranger, well done! Welcome to the forward geo revolution mate.

    Steep stuff - it will shine there to.

    Give us an update when you have ridden some more. Cheers

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    Sweet looking ride. I'm looking forward to hearing more about your experiences, especially with the Kirk shock rather than the Float X.

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    Kirk is really good and is tuned for this bike....feels as good as my old Stoy...very plush and controlled, nicely balanced with Idylles. May change Idylle to air version to reduce weight and give more adjustability. Can't say if the Kirk is better than the Fox shock since I haven't tried it but I'm very happy with the way it works on this bike.

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    Wow, that's a pretty radical build!

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    wow Awesome build!!! form AND function nicely done, do you like modraker's forward geometry. on the topic of wheels, i say carbon front and rear! my only reason is cause those carbon Derbys have a nice rim depth so they look boss! 26 rear and 650 front i love that combo! 2x10 and non clutch RD for full suspension for me personally

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    Thanks. Just about to pull the trigger on some new wheels...Derby or Ryde? Probably go with the Derby's since I've only heard really good things about them. 650b/650b or 650b/26....not sure. Yep, no clutch but not sure if I should go 2 x 10 or 1 x 11? Probably 2 x 10 to give a better range of gears...I don't really have an issue with FD's.

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    Just did a bit of measuring

    Head Angle 65deg with 26 rear 66 with 650b rear

    Bottom Bracket Hgt 647 and 650.

    Wheelbase 1252 with 180 fork

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    loamranger - Any thoughts about your Dune now that you've had it for a few weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxbat View Post
    loamranger - Any thoughts about your Dune now that you've had it for a few weeks?
    Sorry about the delay but I'm in the middle of a house move right now. I should get more time in (FOD and Wales) over the next few weeks. But so far it's been great and it's now got even better with Derby wheels.

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    Mondraker Dune Build Information

    The dune of a friend of mine
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    Looks likes business

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    Something is coming home...

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    I didn't think black forks would work with the Dune, but they actually look good.

    What size is the frame?

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    Thnks, I think it too
    It's large

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    Incredible how it pedals and climbs! Going down is a beast

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    Good photos. The all black fork is nicely balanced by the all black seat post.

    Agree, great climbing bike. Confident and stable descender.

    Keep the posts rolling. I'll post some photos of my latest set-up soon.

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    I'm interested in building one up .What's the frame and shock weigh out of the box?

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    I can't give this information exactly but dune It's a light frame. Don't worry for the weight

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    After 3 days with dune I'm very happy with this bike. Climbs similar than foxy and going down is amazing
    Now blue graphics at wheels


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    I've just changed fox shock for monarch plus debonair, tune ML. For me, zero system works much better with those news rock shox shocks. Now, this dune is peferct for me.

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    Thought that might be the case, I fitted mine with a BOS Kirk right from the start and I am very happy with the result. I'm sure Debonair is just as good. Nice pics keep them rolling .

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    jfs, what are your tyres?

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    Maxxis high roller 2.30 front and kenda nevegal xpro 2.10 rear

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    LR
    Lovely build
    Kirk too, and you like it, nice one.
    Good to see the Magic 650 in the 26" Idylle too.
    On the front of my Am, I've been using a 650 2.4 Rubber Queen (TK) in my Devilles on a Derby 40mm rim, its pretty tight and my local (chalky clay) mud can overcome it. I do like that RQ/TK 2.4 tyre tho so thanks for the recommendation. Wondering how well the Magic would suit the big Derby rim as it'll flatten the tread a bit for sure. Tried the Magic on a Hope Enduro rim and loved it up front.
    The 2.4 RQ is massive on a wide rim, mines on a Stan's FR at the moment and pretty close to my AM's stays.
    I've been very interested to read up about the Liteville 601 which is designed to take 650 front and 26 rear for reasons they explain and are pretty logical. Grip and rollover with 650 front, flickability, light weight and strength with the 26 rear. And whilst rider deflection (weight shift) on a bump drives the front wheel into the ground it actually lifts the rear a touch, so it rolls well. Plus there's a whole techie thing about a 26 rear tracking a 650 front really well. Pretty inspiring article.
    Liteville 601 MK 3 - Review - Pinkbike
    Enjoy the bike mate

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    Hope this shows a pic of my deville suffeing in local soil. Not much loam to be ranged here
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudfish801 View Post
    LR
    Lovely build
    Kirk too, and you like it, nice one.
    Good to see the Magic 650 in the 26" Idylle too.
    On the front of my Am, I've been using a 650 2.4 Rubber Queen (TK) in my Devilles on a Derby 40mm rim, its pretty tight and my local (chalky clay) mud can overcome it. I do like that RQ/TK 2.4 tyre tho so thanks for the recommendation. Wondering how well the Magic would suit the big Derby rim as it'll flatten the tread a bit for sure. Tried the Magic on a Hope Enduro rim and loved it up front.
    The 2.4 RQ is massive on a wide rim, mines on a Stan's FR at the moment and pretty close to my AM's stays.
    I've been very interested to read up about the Liteville 601 which is designed to take 650 front and 26 rear for reasons they explain and are pretty logical. Grip and rollover with 650 front, flickability, light weight and strength with the 26 rear. And whilst rider deflection (weight shift) on a bump drives the front wheel into the ground it actually lifts the rear a touch, so it rolls well. Plus there's a whole techie thing about a 26 rear tracking a 650 front really well. Pretty inspiring article.
    Liteville 601 MK 3 - Review - Pinkbike
    Enjoy the bike mate

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    I saw that review on the Liteville, it was an interesting read. I used 650/26 out of necessity on the Knolly and then used the same set-up initially on the Dune before getting a set of 650b Derby's. I liked the switch from 26/26 to 650/26 (better roll. more speed, slacker). The Derby's are so different from the other wheels (wide/carbon) that it makes it impossible to make a direct comparison. It would be interesting to see if Pilot tries the 26 rear set-up on his Nicolai FWG using Derby's. You and Pinkbike got me thinking about it again.

    650b MM clearance on the Idylle SC's is tight but hasn't given me any concerns. I'm sure they are working on a 650b version ( and hopefully a long travel 29er).

    I'm currently using MM f and TK r. I'm going to try Rock Razors out back for a change.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudfish801 View Post
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    hope this shows a pic of my deville suffeing in local soil. Not much loam to be ranged here
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    Hi Robert

    The RR is a surprisingly grippy tyre, I have a 26 supergravity, its the Trailstar compound. I was concerned that a pacestar one would be slippy on my local roots which are often wet. Its great but quite draggy to pedal. Might roll a tiny bit better that the TK2.4, might not. Even in light mud it survives well though. Quite impressive. I'd like to try the pacestar one now. My 650 Derby front wheel is lovely. Not yet had the chance to push it though. My AM is a bit "fatbike lite" (just need dry trails now) with the 2.4 RQ front and rear on big rims (rear is a Stans FR, about 27 internal I think) RQ is pretty tight on that rim so a Derby 40 would cause problems. And I cant afford one anyway. Did you every try lightbicycle rims? Cheaper, but OK, I wonder. Happy trails, neil

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    Tight!

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    Climbs like a xc and goes down like a dh!
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    Did the Dune just get better?

    First Ride: Mondraker Dune Carbon - Pinkbike

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    Agree, looks fab, wow it costs tho.
    more here:-
    Singletrack Magazine | Mondraker Dune 2016 - and -http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/First-Look-2016-Mondraker-Dune-Carbon,9094/Slideshow,0/iceman2058,94

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    Available as a frame only shipping around September. Cost around £2,800.00 in the UK.
    Reach I think is unchanged but CS can be lengthened and HA adjustable. Is it worth it when you can get a custom FG Nicolai for less? Is carbon all it's cracked up to be? Not sure.

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    Think I might get one of the new Dune XR's, they look stunning.

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    from where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    from where?
    Got one on order, should have the frame mid August.

    Ordered from my local shop in the UK.
    Last edited by Rick Draper; 06-30-2015 at 07:53 AM.

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    They need to start shipping to the U.S.

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    New Dune 2016 carbón

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    so sick. i want one

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    so sick. i want one
    I cannot wait to get my hands on mine now.

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    Dune aluminium 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfstone View Post
    Dune aluminium 2016
    Same geo as carbon?

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    I don't know, I think that will have the same geo as the Dune alu 2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Is carbon all it's cracked up to be? Not sure.
    Freudian slip when discussing Mondraker's?


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    My Dune RR. I've replaced the Fox Float X with a Cane Creek Db Inline from my previous bike and for anyone who wonders: It does fit 100% on the Large model atleast. Had my first ride with it today

    Except for that I've replaced the brakes with Formula T1 and put on a Magic Mary in front and Hans Dampf behind.

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    Hopefully not too much longer to wait now for my Dune! I'm useless at waiting and just want it NOW!

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    I'm trying to get someone to hook me up in the United States with one

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    C'mon!!

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    Climbs like a xc and goes down like a dh. It's true!!

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    Has anyone replaced their lower link bearings? After 500km atleast the bearing on the drive side connection between front frame and lower link got some unwanted play.. Never replaced bearings before, but going to order them tomorrow so need to do an attempt soon.

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    tried to buy one but it came to 4700 american for a frame holy shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    tried to buy one but it came to 4700 american for a frame holy shit
    Same price as a SC for me.

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    want to make a trade haha. santa cruz or anything over here for a dune frame

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    sorry, it's upside down - don't know why...

    Has anyone tried a FOX Float X2 in a Dune frame? Does it fit, or will I have to grind away some material....

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    Looks like the X2 fits in a 2016 Carbon XR atleast:
    http://www.mondraker.com/16/eng/bike...-carbon-xr/489

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrondAM View Post
    Looks like the X2 fits in a 2016 Carbon XR atleast:
    http://www.mondraker.com/16/eng/bike...-carbon-xr/489
    Sure does:

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    is that yours rick?

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    Hi guys, I am looking to get a 2016 Dune RR frame, to build up, but since I am between sizes I wonder if I should get a Medium or Large frame?
    Coming previously from a L Specialized Enduro 650B and before that a M/L Evil Uprising, I am leaning more towards the Large Dune, but with Mondraker's forward geometry being so much more long-low-slack on the very edges of the range, I am not sure. Wheelbase on medium is 1213mm and on large is 1238mm!
    Hence I am afraid to end up with a barge of a bike...
    I could definitely use some help and your views about sizing up or down on this frame.
    My stats:
    Height: 1.80m (5'9"), Legs: 100cm, Arms: 72cm, Torso: 50cm
    Weight fully kitted: around 90kilos (205lbs)
    I am an avid rider, intermediate to advanced skills and riding aggressively mostly single-track trails with limestone rocks (embedded and loose), roots, drops, step-downs, etc. Also looking to do the odd enduro event, but mostly weekend warrior.
    I like charging over everything and don't care, mostly about line selection, sort of speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tp806 View Post
    My stats:
    Height: 1.80m (5'9")
    180cm = 5'11" or 5.9'
    Just a correction for those who can help you with the sizing...

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    I'm 183cm and felt at home with my 2015 Dune in Medium with a normal 50mm stem. So a Large with 30mm stem would not be that different in terms of reach. I would choose a Large if i had the oppurtunity today and run a 30mm stem.
    I'm at expert riding level.
    Wheelbase is a bad measurment to be looking at. Compare the cockpit (the reach and stack) of your previous bikes to the Dune and keep in mind the 10mm/30mm onoff stem shortens the effective reach compared to a normal bike with a 50mm stem.

    My bike, with a angleset

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorp View Post
    I'm 183cm and felt at home with my 2015 Dune in Medium with a normal 50mm stem. So a Large with 30mm stem would not be that different in terms of reach. I would choose a Large if i had the oppurtunity today and run a 30mm stem.
    I'm at expert riding level.
    Wheelbase is a bad measurment to be looking at. Compare the cockpit (the reach and stack) of your previous bikes to the Dune and keep in mind the 10mm/30mm onoff stem shortens the effective reach compared to a normal bike with a 50mm stem.

    My bike, with a angleset
    Thanks for your input Skorp, definitely my previous bikes although size Large had smaller reach, stack, wheelbase, top tube, than the equivalent Large Dune, due to its forward geometry concept.
    So in essence you used your medium frame but with a normal 50mm size stem, instead of the very short Stoic 30mm provided by Mondraker. How come?
    Did you want to achieve the Large size reach?
    I would probably be getting the large myself with 30mm stem, but I need to hear some more views about cornering in tight singletrack with a large Dune. How it behaves and what does the rider needs to adjust on his riding style so as not to be overwhelmed initially by the FG?

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    On a somewhat similar note regarding geometry: since the 2016 Dune RR, has a 66.5 degrees headangle, which fork do you think will suit the bike better?
    180mm Rockshox Lyrik RCT3 (giving the frame a 65.5 headangle) or
    170mm Fox 36 Float RC2 (for a 66 degrees headangle)?
    First world problems, I know but still, would a 180mm Lyrik be too much or just right for the Forward geometry character of the bike?

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    I run the Lyrik at 170mm with the -1 degree upper headset cup so it should be about 65 degrees.

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    Yep, but that's a luxury for the Dune carbon XR model only.
    The alu Dune RR frame does not come with the option of adjustable head cups, hence it has only the default 66.5 angle to work with.
    I don't know if you can get the adjustable cups from Mondraker for the Dune RR as an aftermarket option though?
    Rick, any photos of you latest setup on the Dune carbon XR?
    Do you think the Dune can fit a coil also? Like Push 11-6, CCDB coil-CS, Fox DHX2, RS Vivid R2C?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tp806 View Post
    Yep, but that's a luxury for the Dune carbon XR model only.
    The alu Dune RR frame does not come with the option of adjustable head cups, hence it has only the default 66.5 angle to work with.
    I don't know if you can get the adjustable cups from Mondraker for the Dune RR as an aftermarket option though?
    Rick, any photos of you latest setup on the Dune carbon XR?
    Do you think the Dune can fit a coil also? Like Push 11-6, CCDB coil-CS, Fox DHX2, RS Vivid R2C?
    Don't think a Eleven six would fit, a DHX2 etc might fit, I am not 100% sure though.

    I will get some more photos of it tomorrow. It's an amazing bike.

    Ahh I did not realise you were looking at the alloy one. I know the upper cup can fit the foxy carbon too but I am not sure about the alloy bikes.

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    Well Rick, in theory the DHX2 coil might have smaller circumference, (i.e. girth) than the Float X2, so it could fit.
    Looking forward to your photos with the Lyrik.
    As it stands I am leaning towards a large Dune RR frame with 30mm Stoic stem, with probably a 2016 Rockshox Lyrik 180mm RCT3.
    Do you think I will miss the independent HSC and LSC of the 36 Float RC2?

    Some reviews I read suggest than unless you are racing Pro, you wouldn't understand much difference between the RCT3 and the RC2 damper (HSC/LSC).
    Gents, what are your views?

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    I have had a 36 RC2 and a new Lyrik. The new Lyrik is a better fork. Its got vastly superior small bump compliance.

    If you wanted HSC and LSC adjust on a Lyrik you could always get the FAST upgrade on the charger damper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    I have had a 36 RC2 and a new Lyrik. The new Lyrik is a better fork. Its got vastly superior small bump compliance.
    If you wanted HSC and LSC adjust on a Lyrik you could always get the FAST upgrade on the charger damper.
    Rick, I saw your photos in the other thread, very nice Dune carbon XR you got with Enves, but how come you changed from a Fox 36 Float RC2 (that is the fork actually Mondraker ships the full bike with) to a new Lyrik RCT3 (both 170mm)?
    What prompted you to change? Did you want to just try it, or you feel the Lyrik matches more to the carbon Dune character and what you are looking for in such a fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tp806 View Post
    Rick, I saw your photos in the other thread, very nice Dune carbon XR you got with Enves, but how come you changed from a Fox 36 Float RC2 (that is the fork actually Mondraker ships the full bike with) to a new Lyrik RCT3 (both 170mm)?
    What prompted you to change? Did you want to just try it, or you feel the Lyrik matches more to the carbon Dune character and what you are looking for in such a fork?
    Here is mine right now:


    I built it up from a frame only and I had a 36 RC2 on my old bike so I just changed it over. The Lyrik was not out when I first built it and I did not want a Pike as thats only 160mm. The Lyrik is just more to my tastes, its superb, far better small bump compliance.

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    Longer the better IMO if seat tube length is not a problem.

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    Any longish term reviews now that everyone has had some time to get their Dune's sorted? I'm interested in possibly swapping my Foxy frame for something longer travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxbat View Post
    Any longish term reviews now that everyone has had some time to get their Dune's sorted? I'm interested in possibly swapping my Foxy frame for something longer travel.
    Dune was good but Mojo Geometron even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorp View Post
    I'm 183cm and felt at home with my 2015 Dune in Medium with a normal 50mm stem. So a Large with 30mm stem would not be that different in terms of reach. I would choose a Large if i had the oppurtunity today and run a 30mm stem.
    I'm at expert riding level.
    Wheelbase is a bad measurment to be looking at. Compare the cockpit (the reach and stack) of your previous bikes to the Dune and keep in mind the 10mm/30mm onoff stem shortens the effective reach compared to a normal bike with a 50mm stem.

    My bike, with a angleset
    Hello ! forgive my English, but I'm Spanish.
    I have a dune mondraker 2014 and I want to install a AngleSet on my bike.
    Could you help me with the extent of the measure?
    I think the measure of the original address is; ZS44 / ZS56.
    AngleSet that I would need?
    and by the way, that makes wearing of AngleSet?
    Thank you very much and greetings.

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    Did anyone put an angled headset on their Dune to change the head angle from 66.5 degrees to 65.5? If yes, is the change worth it and what are the pros and cons?
    Any feedback is much appreciated!

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