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    Let's see those 69er's

    Post up your 69ers! I would like to get some ideas!
    I am riding a Carver right now, and I am looking to do another one in full suspension!

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    '08 Trek Top Fuel 69er built up with a Maverick SC32 fork


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    08 with Reba Fork and the best plastic pedals I could find Egg beaters were broke


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    Here is me racing my 69er last November at "Attila the Hun" Hot Springs, AR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus
    Here is me racing my 69er last November at "Attila the Hun" Hot Springs, AR.

    I miss riding in the Southeast.

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    From that angle, that Moots looks like it has the same size wheels.

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    My DEAN Ace set up SS
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    My Moots Smoothie...

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    I guess your Moots would be a B6er with that 650b up front. Either way - sweet sweet fully!

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    I rode that Smoothie this morning, and let me just say how awesome it is. I rode it when it was 26", and the front end seamed to fall away from you when things got off camber, or steep. Not anymore. I'm not sure if tennesseeti will get this one back. Schwinn Homegrown B6er to come.

    I usually ride 69er, and thought I would miss the bigger front wheel, but I think I'll start working on a 650B front wheel set up of my own now.

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    Question

    Let me get this ? Basically you take a 26 bike and change the front end to 29, is that it?
    How does it help?
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    Its a 650b front end... it just hooks up everything, rollls over stuff easier, and when you get out of the saddle on climbs it seems more like a road bike... I dunno, I'm short, so a 29er is a little much for me, but a 650 is just right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstguide
    Let me get this ? Basically you take a 26 bike and change the front end to 29, is that it?
    How does it help?
    The larger wheel attacks trail obstacles at a better angle if you will thus allowing you to roll over trail obstacles (rocks, roots, logs etc.) easier than a 26" wheel. It also provides a greater sense of front end stability if you will when paired up with the appropriate fork and on the appropriate frame. Some frames will become "floppy" up front with a 29er or maybe even a 650b front wheel, whereas others may actually become less twitchy and more "stable" with the larger diameter wheelsize in front.

    Does that help explain things a bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstguide
    Let me get this ? Basically you take a 26 bike and change the front end to 29, is that it?
    How does it help?
    650b is a bigger tire than a 26" rim, so where can you find the bigger rim? ( I guess you can use a road rim) How about the brakes like with the disc brakes, do you have to change rotor size? Where do you find the fat 650b?
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    MMcG has hit it on the head as far as the front end goes. As for the rear end, for me a 29 inch rear wheel was OK, but it seamed to kick the back end up over logs and rocks, and when you roll off of a steep drop, it made the angle a little uncomfortable for me. The 26 inch rear wheel solves all those issues. I can hop the rear end over logs, and have more confidence on steep drops.

    The 650B had the grip like a 29 inch wheel, but it was a lot quicker handling in the tight stuff. I can't wait to build up a 650B bike for myself.

    Thanks for the loner tennesseeti, sorry about the dirt all over it.

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    build one

    I have an older schwinn and I may make it a 650b if I can find some good deals.
    I also think that making it a 29r front end may not be a bad idea, 650b is close to 29r, I have to feel the geometry to really know the difference.
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    tennesseeti and I did a 69er with an old homegrown last year. We used a Bontrager 26" rigid fork. There was a little toe overlap but not really that bad. The frame was a 15 " and a little small for me, but I loved riding it. That frame is up next for a full 650B conversion front and rear. I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 202cycle
    tennesseeti and I did a 69er with an old homegrown last year. We used a Bontrager 26" rigid fork. There was a little toe overlap but not really that bad. The frame was a 15 " and a little small for me, but I loved riding it. That frame is up next for a full 650B conversion front and rear. I can't wait.
    I have a Schwinn Moab that I liked. I can't fit a 650B in the rear. I also won't fit in the front fork, But I'm sure I have some rigid fork around I could try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstguide
    650b is a bigger tire than a 26" rim, so where can you find the bigger rim? ( I guess you can use a road rim) How about the brakes like with the disc brakes, do you have to change rotor size? Where do you find the fat 650b?
    Just get a 650b rim/tire, and lace up a mtn bike hub (disc) the brakes are the same, only issues will be clearance and headtube angle... these two issues are ubiquitous, but fox forks work, and no need to change rotors or anything like that...

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    Mine was once a 69er w/ rigid fork





    Then I got a Manitou Minute 29 fork...


    Right now it's a 650B front & rear w/ Minute 29 fork and I like it a lot.
    The steering is much faster (and better) then 69er setup.
    I tried "6Beer" (650B front, 26 back.) set up today and see if by using
    26 in the back will make my climb easier(same gear ratio) for the race this weekend.
    Yes, the climb on pavement road is easy. But for off road riding, the big wheel rules!!

    So I change it back to 650B.

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    Here's my Giant Rincon 69er.
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    69'ed Surly 1x1

    I know its not the best photo, but here it is. Currently it is setup for desert hardpack, it hasn't rained much down here in NM for a while. It rides surprising well, so much so, I sold my Reba to fund a lighter front wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D1PHAM
    Here's my Giant Rincon 69er.
    how is your bashguard on logs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mstguide
    how is your bashguard on logs?
    Works pretty well. I've bashed it against a few rocks and it does well to protect the chainrings. I believe BBG's have a lifetime warranty now. Wreck it and they will replace it for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tennesseeti
    Just get a 650b rim/tire, and lace up a mtn bike hub (disc) the brakes are the same, only issues will be clearance and headtube angle... these two issues are ubiquitous, but fox forks work, and no need to change rotors or anything like that...
    thank you, do you kow where to look for 650b fat tires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by basslu
    Mine was once a 69er w/ rigid fork





    Then I got a Manitou Minute 29 fork...


    Right now it's a 650B front & rear w/ Minute 29 fork and I like it a lot.
    The steering is much faster (and better) then 69er setup.
    I tried "6Beer" (650B front, 26 back.) set up today and see if by using
    26 in the back will make my climb easier(same gear ratio) for the race this weekend.
    Yes, the climb on pavement road is easy. But for off road riding, the big wheel rules!!

    So I change it back to 650B.
    I really like this bike and want to build up something similar. What kind of frame is it and what size is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles_dad
    I really like this bike and want to build up something similar. What kind of frame is it and what size is it?
    The brand name of the bike is "RIKULAU", and it's from Taiwan. You can check their website here: http://www.rikulau.com/rikulau_english/index.php. The model of my bike is call "Patada", and it was made from 853 tube. The ride is pretty sweet.

    I think they have distributor in US now, check their website.

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    Already posted this in the other 69er/96er thread but so happy with the way this turned out I'll post it again.

    It's a '94 or there abouts Diamondback Apex built out of the spares bin (front wheel comes off the cyclo-cross and the front tyre is new).
    When I built it up 26er I saw there was alot of clearance, did the math and it worked. made some adapters to move the v-brake posts up.

    Only thing to do now is find the right gear-ratio.
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    Here is my '94 steel stumpjumper as a 96er. I 'discovered' it by accident when my Fisher 29er broke a week before the Kona 24 hour race and all I could ride was this with my 29er wheel up front. Rode it and loved it. My friend Tom made new track ends for me and I gave it a rattle can paintjob after the race as a reward. I have ordered a 650B wheel for the front to see how it goes with that in there too.

    sorry for the crappy phone pics.
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    Being curious I had to try it out.
    Polish cromo frame NSBikes Society with a Salsa fork and a 29" wheel
    Just made a short spin to adjust the bike and take a photo.
    It is .. different.

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    '09 Trek 69 3x9


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    Nice!
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    I just turned my Cannondale 29er 2 into a 96er. Bashed up the 29 in. rear wheel and wanted to keep riding. I had a 26 in. wheel so said what the heck. Doing so lowered my bottom bracket to 11.25 in. I've hit the trails twice now without any pedal strikes, although I will say I don't pedal downhill much. A lot of neutral pedals into turns too. -but some epic riding as well.

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    We the people ... All Your Bikes Are Belong To Us

    AYBABTU! Doing it biggie-smalls twenty years before all you suckaz'! Cool before cool became cool. More power to the 69ers, I remember how hard the fad hit MTBR forums when Travis Brown won a race setup with a 69er (Trek?). It seems to be a shortlived fad, but apparently not - behold, the 69er from 1987! Now that's holding power!



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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    AYBABTU! Doing it biggie-smalls twenty years before all you suckaz'! Cool before cool became cool. More power to the 69ers, I remember how hard the fad hit MTBR forums when Travis Brown won a race setup with a 69er (Trek?). It seems to be a shortlived fad, but apparently not - behold, the 69er from 1987! Now that's holding power!



    Link to source: 1987 Fat Chance
    Cool bike.

    So the 69er version in the mid to late 80s was the 46er right? Cannondale did them as well with their Beast of the Easts correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basslu
    Then I got a Manitou Minute 29 fork...


    Right now it's a 650B front & rear w/ Minute 29 fork and I like it a lot.
    The steering is much faster (and better) then 69er setup.
    I tried "6Beer" (650B front, 26 back.) set up today and see if by using
    26 in the back will make my climb easier(same gear ratio) for the race this weekend.
    Yes, the climb on pavement road is easy. But for off road riding, the big wheel rules!!

    So I change it back to 650B.
    Oooh, first Rikulau I've seen in these boards... nice!
    It was only this year that this brand was brought here to the Philippines.

    Did you try a 650B on the rear?

    I really want to go 650B but they're not available locally yet. Heck, I can count on one hand the number of shops that have 29er stuff
    Might be a while (~5 years? 'hope not!) before 650B hits our shores.
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Schwinn Moab

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    Post up your 69ers! I would like to get some ideas!
    I am riding a Carver right now, and I am looking to do another one in full suspension!
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    Details on conversion HERE.

    Anyone else experiencing the "sluggishness" I'm feeling with the 29" front? I thought the idea behind 69ers is the advantage of the roll-overability, traction and stability of the big front wheel while maintaining the quickness of the smaller rear. I don't seem to be feeling the love...
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    '08 Top Fuel 69er

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    my new (to me) Salsa Ala Carte' single speed now and about to be geared 1x5
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    I'm going to be the dork of the day here...could somebody fill me in on the different wheel sizes? I'm good on 26", 29" but I'm clueless on the other sizes you guys are throwing around here. What is 650b (size-wise)? And a 69er is a bike with a 26" rear and 29" front, right? What's a 96er? Can I chuck a 29" wheel on my 26" frame (if I change the forks of course)? I'm 5'8", is this kind of bike going to be too tall, all other things considered?

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    Carver Ti 96er'

    Just got through retensioning the i9's. Got a 19T cog on the way to compliment the 17T.
    Loving the way this thing rides more and more every day, Ti is a real trip after riding nothing but aluminum bikes.

    http://photobucket.com/Carver_Ti_96er

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    Nice Carver!!!

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