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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    I'm a Canfield fanboy, however part of me wishes I would have seen the new one of these before I bought my balance.
    What I think is cool is the ability to have all of that rear travel when you want it (say, lift accessed or other suitably chunky rides), but to be able to change it so that you don't have to live with all of that rear travel on a daily basis.

    There are times where I'd love a Nomad and there are plenty more times where I'm happy to have something sprightlier.

    The V2 looks cool in my book. Can't wait to throw a leg over a buddy's.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Got my SS built up over the weekend and had it's first ride today. A few thoughts:

    The frame is a work of art, and every decision seems to have been made thoughtfully. I'd take well designed external cable routing any day, and GG's routing is the best I have seen. The bottle cage location is great as it is higher up and easier to reach. The NUTS bracket is a great touch. The frame is STIFF, stiffer by far than the Bronson which granted always suffered from loosening pivot bolts, and it is totally silent. Overall I'm just very impressed with the frame.

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    The SS leverage curve is as they describe it, sporty and playful, not at all linear. I need to play around with spacers and air pressure, but it is great for extra credit features and such. Coming from a Bonson v2 it is more supportive and progressive but obviously the trade off is less comfort and stability in lower speed rocky sections. Gravity mode makes an immediately perceptible difference in the suspension feel. I rode about half my ride in gravity mode and I'd say I like the geo of trail mode but the suspension action of gravity mode. It is really cool to have both of these available. I am sure with the removal of a few spacers I can get trail mode to feel a bit more forgiving, but this is just personal preference. Once up to high speed the suspension feels great.

    Overall I'm very pleased and looking forward to tinkering with this thing for a few years. I'll be acquiring a 230x65 damper to use it in full on smash mode at some point. From a value perspective, GG offers a compelling proposition. A well-designed frame welded in the US that can morph from a short travel play/trail bike to a big mountain or park bike with a few steps in between. There were a few hiccups in the delivery department but I chalk this up to a growing company refining their processes. They were always available and solved all issues in a fair manner.

    Cheers.

    Edit: one thing that I found out the hard way but is not published by GG - oval chanrings 32t or greater will not clear the chainstay, at least not on XT M8000 cranks. Just FYI.

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    That's awesome. For suspension tuning, we've found air pressure changes of even 5psi can make those last fine tuning bits. Measuring sag in seated climbing position, our recommended baseline is 27%, but if you're looking for softer, I'd try a little more sag (up to 30%) before trying less air volume spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtg7aa View Post
    That's awesome. For suspension tuning, we've found air pressure changes of even 5psi can make those last fine tuning bits. Measuring sag in seated climbing position, our recommended baseline is 27%, but if you're looking for softer, I'd try a little more sag (up to 30%) before trying less air volume spacers.
    Since the new spacer system is so easy, I went ahead and pulled one out and set it right at 27%. There were only two in there. I'll see how it feels and add it back in if necessary.

    Need a digital shock pump!

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    Any pics of Teal is Real?

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    Congrats on bike of the day jcc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankthespacecowboy View Post
    Any pics of Teal is Real?
    This is a trail pistol. This color isn't on the options currently though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TugboatComplex View Post
    Congrats on bike of the day jcc!
    Thanks dude! Funny to me they picked my budget build - must be the slick MT frame. The raw alu just looks so good...

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    I love that colour, that looks fantastic.

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    Just to add fuel to the fire jcc, my new MT is in raw and running your hand over the frame feels amazing. Very earthy, connected, visceral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc383 View Post
    Since the new spacer system is so easy, I went ahead and pulled one out and set it right at 27%. There were only two in there. I'll see how it feels and add it back in if necessary.

    Need a digital shock pump!
    Super dumb question BUT- To add /remove spacers, you just air down the shock, unscrew the main canister, slide the spacer in, and re- screw the can back on- correct? SRAM doesn't have any info on its website, at least I couldn't find any.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdc View Post
    Super dumb question BUT- To add /remove spacers, you just air down the shock, unscrew the main canister, slide the spacer in, and re- screw the can back on- correct? SRAM doesn't have any info on its website, at least I couldn't find any.

    Thanks!
    Yep. The new system is awesome.

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    On Teal is Real, it's not on the current options list, but if you want it, let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdc View Post
    Super dumb question BUT- To add /remove spacers, you just air down the shock, unscrew the main canister, slide the spacer in, and re- screw the can back on- correct? SRAM doesn't have any info on its website, at least I couldn't find any.

    Thanks!
    Yep - like Matt said, so much easier. No more removing the outer air sleeve. Can do it with the shock on the bike.

    William, I agree. It's a great material and finish.

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    Teal color is very cool

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    Finally have the MT built up, took a long while, frustrations with local suppliers, some parts not available, wrong parts being supplied, being sent back and resent and on it goes.

    Time to reveal the big bike, great to have a big bike again actually.

    Decided to take the covert lines:
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    Only because it is dangerous out there:
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    Had a shakedown run, bike felt great. Happy how it pedaled out and along. Small bump was excellent, don't know why...maybe I do. Low key trails, but the few fast bits I traversed were an excellent prelude.

    It turns really well and rips out of the corners - some oh yeah smiles where had. Trail riding bumps all disappeared, bike gobbled it up and said to me "are you serious yet"... Yes, the GG's talk to you. You need to ride one.

    Off to some steep stuff tomorrow more in tune with the bikes intent, and a few jumps and high speed sections. Feel a sense of fear already, but a greater sense of excitement - new bike pump. Not sure how I will sleep tonight.

    Thanks GG, this is going to be a fun machine.

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    Hell yeah William. What did you do to get a 230x65 DB Coil, btw? Did you have somebody machine a longer eyelet?

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    Hi Matt,
    Because the CC is a twin tube damper, it is a do anything shock design. No internal restrictions to your imagination. So take a 216mm shock, a 242mm body and shaft, some shaft spacing and you can have what you want - to the mm. If you have a box of CC stuff, it's like a ladies mix and match sale mate. Lucky we have a registered CC and Push suspension shop with all the parts, tools and experience associated with our LBS.

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    William, that looks awesome! I'm pining hard for a Megatrail but it's going to have to be later in the season I think.

    I assume your DVO fork is 160mm, have you figured out what the head angle is with the 160mm fork?

    *Disregard that, I just found it on the GG website. Still hopelessly jealous, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamK View Post
    Hi Matt,
    Because the CC is a twin tube damper, it is a do anything shock design. No internal restrictions to your imagination. So take a 216mm shock, a 242mm body and shaft, some shaft spacing and you can have what you want - to the mm. If you have a box of CC stuff, it's like a ladies mix and match sale mate. Lucky we have a registered CC and Push suspension shop with all the parts, tools and experience associated with our LBS.
    Ah, I figured it was something like that.

    You forgot the step about having a beer in hand, though.

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    Hey lazarescu, thanks mate. It is actually the new boost DVO diamond, so it comes with 170mm travel.
    Perfect!
    Cheers W

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamK View Post
    Hey lazarescu, thanks mate. It is actually the new boost DVO diamond, so it comes with 170mm travel.
    Perfect!
    Cheers W
    Interesting! I didn't realise you could get Diamonds in 170mm. There are quite a few options out there now. I love the idea of the MRP Ribbon but I am worried about warranty and service options outside of the US so might have to go with the Lyrik.

    Hopefully I'll get my chance to do some testing in Seattle in June, can't want to try a GG!

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    First light

    Well with a new bike, there's not much point in trying to sleep.

    Especially when the goodness starts at first light.

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    Matt, what are you guys liking the MT/SS with in regards to rear shocks i.e coil or air?

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    I did end up getting the V1 megatrail last fall. the bike has been awesome so far.So strange not having any other bike lust. Well maybe a V2 megatrail, but really love this one so much.
    So far southeast Michigan has been perfectly fine. I have also been to Marquette, Copper Harbor, Duluth and Pisgah. My second ride on the bike was the Marji Gesick 50 mile race in Marquette/Ishpeming. Worked great, zero regrets.

    Currently thinking about a new rear shock. Some general questions on what coils people have ran. Right now they said they had a Vivid coil left. I was also thinking of a DVO jade or maybe a MRP Raze. So many choices. Right now I am running somewhere around 290 or so PSI so to get the right sag on my monarch+ so that is a pita, I was also looking for maybe some more pop (I still need to play with settings on My monarch plus too). I would love to go with a Push 11-6, but still no fatboy springs it seems.

    Anyone have any time on a Vivid vs. DVO vs. MRP ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by esilvassy View Post
    I did end up getting the V1 megatrail last fall. the bike has been awesome so far.So strange not having any other bike lust. Well maybe a V2 megatrail, but really love this one so much.
    So far southeast Michigan has been perfectly fine. I have also been to Marquette, Copper Harbor, Duluth and Pisgah. My second ride on the bike was the Marji Gesick 50 mile race in Marquette/Ishpeming. Worked great, zero regrets.

    Currently thinking about a new rear shock. Some general questions on what coils people have ran. Right now they said they had a Vivid coil left. I was also thinking of a DVO jade or maybe a MRP Raze. So many choices. Right now I am running somewhere around 290 or so PSI so to get the right sag on my monarch+ so that is a pita, I was also looking for maybe some more pop (I still need to play with settings on My monarch plus too). I would love to go with a Push 11-6, but still no fatboy springs it seems.

    Anyone have any time on a Vivid vs. DVO vs. MRP ?
    or CCDB coil with the climb switch..

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    Some early initial impressions, all I can say is that this machine is very fast.

    Stable, rooted to the ground and to your chosen line. Crushing on the rough stuff.

    One long sustained fast chute into a rough section - I usually hunt the smooth line and stay light on top, however throwing caution to the wind and testing limits while abandoning all sense of self preservation I simple charged down the high speed guts. The rough line is a straighter line and the MT ate it up and continued to add momentum and speed freely, no hang ups. Just bloody amazing.

    Early assessment, subject to more testing and trail time, is that this has a downhill edge over a Nomad (having ridden a Nomad (170/163 FR) on the same trails before) . Of course it could be the honeymoon phase talking and I am just a little Megatrail struck at the moment.... typical honeymooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddiesconfusion View Post
    Matt, what are you guys liking the MT/SS with in regards to rear shocks i.e coil or air?
    I think it depends on what you're looking for. I tend to prefer the small bump compliance of a coil shock and will take the extra pound with me up the hill. But, if you're looking for a lighter setup with a super poppy shorter travel feel, air is a good way to go.
    What's your riding style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtg7aa View Post
    I think it depends on what you're looking for. I tend to prefer the small bump compliance of a coil shock and will take the extra pound with me up the hill. But, if you're looking for a lighter setup with a super poppy shorter travel feel, air is a good way to go.
    What's your riding style?
    I've mainly been on a coil over the last 10+ years (old Kona Coiler that I used and abused). I mainly ride in our coast range in tight technical single track with lots of up and downs. I couple of time a year I venture out and got to Bend and the cascade mt. Range where the trails open up and are faster and flowy. If there's features to hit jumps, drops (<5') I'm all over them. I like to do some kind of race every year from a group 24hr, or this brutal grand fondo in WA with 9000+ feet of elevation gain and some epic downhills over 40 miles. I never done any lift assist as there's really isn't much around. I hope this help.

    I'm really hoping to hit your demo in Oregon in June with Skye down out of Eugene to take a MT/SS for a spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddiesconfusion View Post
    I've mainly been on a coil over the last 10+ years (old Kona Coiler that I used and abused). I mainly ride in our coast range in tight technical single track with lots of up and downs. I couple of time a year I venture out and got to Bend and the cascade mt. Range where the trails open up and are faster and flowy. If there's features to hit jumps, drops (<5') I'm all over them. I like to do some kind of race every year from a group 24hr, or this brutal grand fondo in WA with 9000+ feet of elevation gain and some epic downhills over 40 miles. I never done any lift assist as there's really isn't much around. I hope this help.

    I'm really hoping to hit your demo in Oregon in June with Skye down out of Eugene to take a MT/SS for a spin.
    Coil is probably your best choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc383 View Post
    Got my SS built up over the weekend and had it's first ride today. A few thoughts:

    The frame is a work of art, and every decision seems to have been made thoughtfully. I'd take well designed external cable routing any day, and GG's routing is the best I have seen. The bottle cage location is great as it is higher up and easier to reach. The NUTS bracket is a great touch. The frame is STIFF, stiffer by far than the Bronson which granted always suffered from loosening pivot bolts, and it is totally silent. Overall I'm just very impressed with the frame.

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    The SS leverage curve is as they describe it, sporty and playful, not at all linear. I need to play around with spacers and air pressure, but it is great for extra credit features and such. Coming from a Bonson v2 it is more supportive and progressive but obviously the trade off is less comfort and stability in lower speed rocky sections. Gravity mode makes an immediately perceptible difference in the suspension feel. I rode about half my ride in gravity mode and I'd say I like the geo of trail mode but the suspension action of gravity mode. It is really cool to have both of these available. I am sure with the removal of a few spacers I can get trail mode to feel a bit more forgiving, but this is just personal preference. Once up to high speed the suspension feels great.

    Overall I'm very pleased and looking forward to tinkering with this thing for a few years. I'll be acquiring a 230x65 damper to use it in full on smash mode at some point. From a value perspective, GG offers a compelling proposition. A well-designed frame welded in the US that can morph from a short travel play/trail bike to a big mountain or park bike with a few steps in between. There were a few hiccups in the delivery department but I chalk this up to a growing company refining their processes. They were always available and solved all issues in a fair manner.

    Cheers.

    Edit: one thing that I found out the hard way but is not published by GG - oval chanrings 32t or greater will not clear the chainstay, at least not on XT M8000 cranks. Just FYI.
    You have me stoked. My XS SS is due in next month! I ordered raw, because I can't justify the cost of the teal. So I'll move over my parts from my other bike.

    I opted for a 160mm Pike and a Super Deluxe coil to give it kinda a mini-DH/park/trail bike. Originally I was going to get a full strength Megatrail, but for the riding I do I just can't justify or think I'd enjoy 170 to 180mm of travel.

    For me, I wanted somethinig more playful but feels more stable pointed downward. I test rode a friend of mine's XS full strength bike, and I have to tell you how bottomless the suspension felt. What else surprised me is how the suspension did not bob at all uphill, but felt pretty plush heading downward.

    It also surprised me how easy it was to launch the bike. I think I got more height on the jumps on the megatrail on my first ride on it vs my HD3 which I ride all the time. I can't wait to get the SS. That's going to be so much fun! This is not a dig on the HD3, which is a more than capable bike, but I want something with less travel but feels much more stable pointed downward.

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    I think this might be my next bike when it becomes new bike season(likely end of summer.) Really psyched on the DIYness of the brand(as a bmx transplant) and am planning to pair it with a MRP Ribbon because 'merica.

    Is anyone planning on going dual purpose? I'm wondering if it's a realistic option to get rid of my DH bike, run this in the full Mega mode with a coil and fork at 170, and then swapping the shock and bringing the fork down to 150 for normal trail use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patnugent View Post
    I think this might be my next bike when it becomes new bike season(likely end of summer.) Really psyched on the DIYness of the brand(as a bmx transplant) and am planning to pair it with a MRP Ribbon because 'merica.

    Is anyone planning on going dual purpose? I'm wondering if it's a realistic option to get rid of my DH bike, run this in the full Mega mode with a coil and fork at 170, and then swapping the shock and bringing the fork down to 150 for normal trail use?
    I was thinking the same thing, but you could fully do it with two shocks and two forks.

    Use a 180mm fork for the DH in gravity mode, and a 160mm for trail use, and use the longer stroke for DH and the shorter one for trail.

    But for me, I had to do the SS, which sounds more than capable for what I need, but I still have my Demo 8 for DH if I want to do bigger stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patnugent View Post
    Is anyone planning on going dual purpose? I'm wondering if it's a realistic option to get rid of my DH bike, run this in the full Mega mode with a coil and fork at 170, and then swapping the shock and bringing the fork down to 150 for normal trail use?
    Not yet, but that is my plan as well. Debating on waiting for CC to announce their metric offerings or grab a SD Coil from GG. Also considering scooping up a Helm at some point as I'm in NC and would like to run CC suspension, and it's very simple to change the travel.

    I am enjoying the SS on local trails but will definitely want more squish for Pisgah. Gravity mode will probably suffice but the progressiveness of the linkage with a 57.5 stroke shock is significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patnugent View Post
    I think this might be my next bike when it becomes new bike season(likely end of summer.) Really psyched on the DIYness of the brand(as a bmx transplant) and am planning to pair it with a MRP Ribbon because 'merica.

    Is anyone planning on going dual purpose? I'm wondering if it's a realistic option to get rid of my DH bike, run this in the full Mega mode with a coil and fork at 170, and then swapping the shock and bringing the fork down to 150 for normal trail use?
    We have multiple folks doing that. It's one of the benefits of the modularity of the new Megatrail/SS.
    Changing fork travel for big weekends at a bike park is pretty straight forward on both the Rockshox and MRP forks. Rockshox Dual Position is as easy as turning a knob, and the Solo Air forks need a lowers drop and swap the bottom air shaft. MRP forks take a lowers drop and remove/add travel spacers. Or, if you want to keep one fork setup, 160mm travel works well all around.
    The dual shock setup is really easy to change, and pretty useful, imo. Lightweight, less travel for trail riding, longer travel coil sprung for when the going gets gnarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patnugent View Post
    I think this might be my next bike when it becomes new bike season(likely end of summer.) Really psyched on the DIYness of the brand(as a bmx transplant) and am planning to pair it with a MRP Ribbon because 'merica.

    Is anyone planning on going dual purpose? I'm wondering if it's a realistic option to get rid of my DH bike, run this in the full Mega mode with a coil and fork at 170, and then swapping the shock and bringing the fork down to 150 for normal trail use?
    I'm thinking of doing exactly this. Ordered mine with a coil but might also order the super deluxe air too. Going to ride it a bit first and see. Probably going to sell th DH bike too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TugboatComplex View Post
    I'm thinking of doing exactly this. Ordered mine with a coil but might also order the super deluxe air too. Going to ride it a bit first and see. Probably going to sell th DH bike too.
    I'm thinking when the time comes I'll go the other way, order a SS set to shred the trails and then at the end of the season decide wether or not to keep my DH bike, taking into consideration what I could get for it vs how many days I took it to the ski slopes.
    Having a dedicated DH bike still sounds nice because I am pretty hard on bikes, so it would be nice to not kill my trail bike by going to hard and pushing it a bit past the comfort zone.

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    Fun times aboard the OG Megatrail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patnugent View Post
    I'm thinking when the time comes I'll go the other way, order a SS set to shred the trails and then at the end of the season decide wether or not to keep my DH bike, taking into consideration what I could get for it vs how many days I took it to the ski slopes.
    Having a dedicated DH bike still sounds nice because I am pretty hard on bikes, so it would be nice to not kill my trail bike by going to hard and pushing it a bit past the comfort zone.
    Same here. I've had a previous trail bike out of commission from riding it on easy DH trails. I'd rather not have an all in one bike because if it's down, yer not riding.

    I like the idea of a short travel aggressive bike though for easy park like Trestle blue/greens/valmont/some trail riding and a DH bike for the bigger parks like keystone and angel fire.

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