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    Here the CADs guys!

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    Just got an email back from Peter over at xm carbon speed. Looks like the CS-FS27 frame isn't quite ready for sale yet. Shame, the frames headtube looks so good.

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    Anyone know what frame bearings to buy for the S7?
    I have my frame stripped down after a long weekend in Wales and getting the forks rebuilt with new RCT3 inners.

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    They are all 6902 for the pivots. Get MAX bearings as they will last longer.

    Here's a walk through.
    China Carbon AM Duallies

    And look out for this:
    https://youtu.be/5pD2Bvh6oOA

    Does not look or feel good....

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    Cheers.
    I can't see the video unfortunately.

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    Sorry. Try again, button press hiccup....

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    Ha ha better, cheers

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    And on the positive note it seems like HF will send me a new front triangle without me returning the old first, 0 seconds lost on the trails. Latest news is that it is in "paint matte".
    But it seems like Hong Fu honors their warranty.
    Too bad they stopped producing the 336 (s7)
    Will keep the thread updated.

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    After riding the S7 27.5er about 10 times. I have found that the Revelation RCT3 and the Monarch XX combo, doesn't feel right to me. I have both the fork and rear shock setup to my liking. I don't know what it is. So I was thinking of switching out the revelation RCT3 and the Monarch XX for a Rockshox Yari RC 150mm and a Monarch Plus RC3. I have heard that the Yari RC is great, haven't heard anything bad about it, or it could be I am just looking for the good. Also I have heard a lot of good reviews about the Monarch Plus RC3. Or should I stick with the with the Revelation RCT3 and the monarch xx? Anyone have experience with the RS Yari 150mm and the Monarch plus rc3? Any input would be appreciated?

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    I found the revs too flexi and you'll notice the difference to the Yari. I didn't like the feel of the Fox rear shock, i have a cane creek double barrel, it's been faultless.

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    Another reason I was asking, is the Monarch xx xloc isn't locking out the shock and the xloc itself is not popping out. I have had the xloc bled 3 different times. I am getting sick of the shock, since it's doing that. And as for the Revelation RCT3, I am getting flex out of the fork.

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    Question: My frame is specced with a 200x51mm rear shock, but Im finding a lot of 200x57mm shocks on pinkbike. How would the bike change with one over the other shock?

    - the travel of the rear triangle will increase, and possibly it will hit the front triangle?
    - how is the shock still with the same eye-to-eye? Is the can shorter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SO_DOGE View Post
    Question: My frame is specced with a 200x51mm rear shock, but Im finding a lot of 200x57mm shocks on pinkbike. How would the bike change with one over the other shock?

    - the travel of the rear triangle will increase, and possibly it will hit the front triangle?
    - how is the shock still with the same eye-to-eye? Is the can shorter?
    You'll get more travel from the rear wheel, so you'll possible have the rear tyre contact the frame on full compression. Do you have the bike currently? As you can do a bit of measurement to check this with the 51mm shock in there, and confirm whether the 57mm will cause dramas.

    As to the same lengths but shorter stroke, this can be achieved in a few ways, either by internal spacers limiting the travel or shorter stroke shafts. It's quick common to have shocks with the same E2E but different Strokes.

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    I have the S7 with a 200x57 shock. No rubbing.

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    Yeah thanks. I went home and measured the i2i of the frame when fully extended and when fully compressed - 210mm and 138mm. For others' benefit, thats where the 200mm i2i would fit fully extended and with 200mm-140mm=60mm clearance, it's ok to run it with a 57mm stroke.

    The only gripe I have a bout this is I observed the last 5mm of the schock's travel, during which the back wheel doesnt really go up anymore, it goes kinda in, closer to the front triangle. So I'm not sure of one would feel the difference between the 51mm and 57mm. Has anyone actually tried both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SO_DOGE View Post
    Yeah thanks. I went home and measured the i2i of the frame when fully extended and when fully compressed - 210mm and 138mm. For others' benefit, thats where the 200mm i2i would fit fully extended and with 200mm-140mm=60mm clearance, it's ok to run it with a 57mm stroke.

    The only gripe I have a bout this is I observed the last 5mm of the schock's travel, during which the back wheel doesnt really go up anymore, it goes kinda in, closer to the front triangle. So I'm not sure of one would feel the difference between the 51mm and 57mm. Has anyone actually tried both?
    Which frame are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isildur View Post
    Which frame are you using?
    the one detailed on page 1 post 1 of this thread 17.5"

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    Update on my broken front triangle:
    Hong Fu (Nancy) sent me a brand new front, no questions asked, no sending back of old frame, just a new replacement. It arrived within 12 days, only had to pay $12 in customs fee.
    China Carbon AM Duallies-20170412_131749.jpg
    Construction is slightly different around bottom bracket and lower pivot.
    new front is ca 50grams heavier, hope that goes into longevity. Rebuilt the bike today and took an hour on the mountain. It is a completely different feel to the bike. The rear end is laterally much stiffer, no noodly backend feeling anymore. I'm in love again!
    Big ups to HF for honoring their warranty! Would definitely order from them again. Maybe not the early batches from a new frame model.

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    Great news, onwards to the hills!

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    ..anyone know if you can get a bigger travel chinese frame like the Enduro builds? i'm looking for 160/160.

    Thanks everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LasseB View Post
    Update on my broken front triangle:
    Hong Fu (Nancy) sent me a brand new front, no questions asked, no sending back of old frame, just a new replacement. It arrived within 12 days, only had to pay $12 in customs fee.
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    Construction is slightly different around bottom bracket and lower pivot.
    new front is ca 50grams heavier, hope that goes into longevity. Rebuilt the bike today and took an hour on the mountain. It is a completely different feel to the bike. The rear end is laterally much stiffer, no noodly backend feeling anymore. I'm in love again!
    Big ups to HF for honoring their warranty! Would definitely order from them again. Maybe not the early batches from a new frame model.
    That is great support man. I'm stoked for you and jealous at the same time. I was screwed by Shenzen First.

    I ordered a frame for my son, a different build than this, xc racing as he's at that age. They sent me a broken frame, bent headtube and cracked rocker linkage. They now won't refund till the broken frame is sent back lol. I have chat proof and pics they knowingly sent a bad frame. Someone literally glued the linkage back together then shipped the frame, as if no one would notice. I wish HF still made 26er frames in small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by th1npower View Post
    ..anyone know if you can get a bigger travel chinese frame like the Enduro builds? i'm looking for 160/160.

    Thanks everyone!
    Micah
    You may want to look at this frame.hope it helps.

    Enduro Frame P9 - Shenzhen ICAN Sports Equipment Co., Ltd.
    2016 Ragley Mmmbop 27.5

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    Can you post a picture of what the old frame looked like?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LasseB View Post
    Update on my broken front triangle:
    Hong Fu (Nancy) sent me a brand new front, no questions asked, no sending back of old frame, just a new replacement. It arrived within 12 days, only had to pay $12 in customs fee.

    Construction is slightly different around bottom bracket and lower pivot.
    new front is ca 50grams heavier, hope that goes into longevity. Rebuilt the bike today and took an hour on the mountain. It is a completely different feel to the bike. The rear end is laterally much stiffer, no noodly backend feeling anymore. I'm in love again!
    Big ups to HF for honoring their warranty! Would definitely order from them again. Maybe not the early batches from a new frame model.

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    @Joel_l
    very hard to photograph since it is concerning small changes in the construction around the internal structure of the lower pivot. On the old frame I could conclude that the alu sleeve was not fully encapsuled in epoxy (and possible CF). In the new triangle there's a bigger opening in the bottom bracket into the downtube and I can get my finger in there and sense that the pivot is much more encapsuled and therefore supported by the bonding and will hopefully be stronger. I know, hard to explain and even harder to grasp, but I will keep my fingers crossed, ride as usual and keep this thread updated if there are any changes.
    @thesmokingman
    Ouch, sounds like really bad karma there. I'm very happy with HF so far and I suppose that is by treating the conversation positive, honest and respectful. But maybe I was just lucky to find a good sales representative. I would not hesitate to order from them again, but have no idea for other vendors like iCAN, DengFu etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LasseB View Post
    @thesmokingman
    Ouch, sounds like really bad karma there. I'm very happy with HF so far and I suppose that is by treating the conversation positive, honest and respectful. But maybe I was just lucky to find a good sales representative. I would not hesitate to order from them again, but have no idea for other vendors like iCAN, DengFu etc, etc.
    Yea, it sucks. I started the dispute process with my CC so it shouldn't be a negative result for me at least. And to put the cherry on top, they didn't even send the frame in the correct size. I specifically stressed that I needed a small, yet they sent a cracked up medium, smh. I print screened the chat, with all the pics I took, evidence of the sales person flat out lying. It's kind of comical. The girl was trying to blame UPS. Then when you open the linkage, rocker, there is black glue/paint where someone tried to piece the cracked carbon around the pivot, smh. I'm taking it as straight up fraud. Now apparently they stopped replying, which plays into my dispute.

    I've dealt with iCAN before and they were great. I didn't have any damage issues with iCAN but when I asked for spare derailleur hangers they sent me a set free. This Shenzen First company though, beware of them and their rep Summer. Flat out lies to get you going so be careful anyone reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesmokingman View Post
    I've dealt with iCAN before and they were great. I didn't have any damage issues with iCAN but when I asked for spare derailleur hangers they sent me a set free. This Shenzen First company though, beware of them and their rep Summer. Flat out lies to get you going so be careful anyone reading this.
    Deng Fu for me was easy to deal with. Haven't had any issues so don't know about post sales support. That said if I'm going to get anything it'll probably with XMCarbonSpeed since the owner Peter has an account here on mtbr and I've heard great things about how easy he is to deal with and his pretty good command of English.

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    After doing a good amount of browsing (this thread, chinertown.com, alibaba, etc.), I've narrowed it down to three frames:

    The venerable (at least a year or so old) S7 from ICAN, which they've discounted to $550 plus shipping.

    The "BRAND NEW" LCSF706 from Xiamen Lightcarbon for $783 shipped (https://lightcarbon.en.alibaba.com/p...367.0.0.6aRdYk)

    or the LCFS705 from Yishunbike for $785 shipped.

    Are all three of these frames the same damn bike?
    BB92 bottom bracket. 150mm travel front/rear.

    S7 & 706 HTA of 68 degrees.
    705 is claiming 66 degrees.


    S7 says 200x57 for the rear shock
    LCFS706 says 200x51 for the rear.
    LCFS705 is the same (unsurprisingly)



    Does anyone have any thoughts on whether they're substantively different?

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    looks to me the LCFS705 is slightly different, maybe updated? The rear triangle is different, the top tube looks different, and the head angle is relaxed ( what some of us did using an offset headset ).

    It's a good price on the S7 and I have been very pleased with mine.

    Joel

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    Joel,

    Thanks for the input. I don't see $140 being worth a slight update, when that money could go into a nicer fork or a tiny way toward a nice wheelset.

    I also wanted to say thanks to you for posting the bearing replacement and pics, and to vwsurfbum for the action shots.

    Looks like an S7 with a 160mm fork is the way to go. I'll post pics of the build as it comes along.

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    FM356 29ER all mountain frame

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    If anyone in England is looking for a medium S7 I'll be selling mine, I've landed a Mondraker Foxy XF so its now surplus. Frame and CCDB only.

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    Jumping ship eh?

    The Foxy has an interesting looking rear suspension. Carbon or Aluminum?

    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    If anyone in England is looking for a medium S7 I'll be selling mine, I've landed a Mondraker Foxy XF so its now surplus. Frame and CCDB only.

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    It wasn't something I was looking to do but I couldn't pass it up.
    Feels so long compared to the S7. It is carbon and I would say only a tiny bit lighter.
    Yeah the rear suspension is still a vpp style but the shock mounts on the pivot itself.

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    Another option for folks looking for a complete build with reasonably priced carbon frameset:

    $2999 Fezzari Timp Peak NX1.

    China Carbon AM Duallies-fezzari-timp-peak-nx1-build-sub-3k-4.jpg

    If it seems like I'm really selling this, it's because I think we need to get more credence to retailers who are willing to offer higher end products at lower prices.

    The only thing that comes close is the Vitus CR-FS X1 build at $3059 from Chain Reaction Cycles. Which admittedly is a better deal.

    China Carbon AM Duallies-cmydfziybud4.jpg

    As good as these deals are I'm still holding out for a 140mm Carbon 29er full suspension from Vitus, Fezzari or something similar.
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    new 27.5er boost AM frame

    hi guys . this is our factory new mold . 27.5er boost AM carbon frame . our factory accept custom mold and paint . any questions . contact me , E-mail: info@tantancycling.com China Carbon AM Duallies-img_8014.jpg

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    Hello,

    First post here. I also bought the ICAN S7 27.5 frame but forgot to order the ICAN headset. Is there a similar headset that i can get here in U.S that will also fit this frame, specially the lower headtube? Just bought a cane creek 40 ZS44 but the bottom is to small for lower headtube.

    Thanks

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    PM me your address and I will send you the one that came with my frame. I put a CC angle set on mine.

    Joel

    Quote Originally Posted by Neburz View Post
    Hello,

    First post here. I also bought the ICAN S7 27.5 frame but forgot to order the ICAN headset. Is there a similar headset that i can get here in U.S that will also fit this frame, specially the lower headtube? Just bought a cane creek 40 ZS44 but the bottom is to small for lower headtube.

    Thanks

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    I have been riding my S7 with a Fox 150mm Talas fork and Fox CTD rear shock. I just ordered a Cane Creek DBAir IL for the S7. The CTD seemed ok but wanted to try something better??? If the CCDB is a keeper, the CTD will make its way to my 2004 Enduro Expert, the RL that's on it now is failing and not worth rebuilding ( to me ).

    I'm looking forward to trying the CCDB, seems to get a lot of positive feedback. The only negatives I saw were with the older Inline version, the IL seems to have fixed those issues.

    I did go back and forth between piggy back, non piggy back, Fox DPS Evol, float x, x2, Monarch debonair, Monarch plus......

    I went with the Cane Creek because it does not have custom tunes to speak of. With HS and LS compression and rebound adjustments there are just base tunes for various bike setups. This seemed interesting to me and more flexible. Takes more work to get it dialed in but you are not stuck ( without a rebuild ) with how the shock is tuned.

    Cane Creek claims the new IL is suitable for Trail, AM, Enduro with suspension between 140 - 160mm so I decided on it over the piggy back CS version. The IL should be fine for how I ride.

    Looking forward to seeing how it works out.

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    Got my first ride in on the DBair IL, so far so good. after setting the sag with the shock stock ( no air spacer ), it did bottom too easily. I put in the full spacer that comes with it and it is much better. My ride today did not use it all up, but it's not as hard on the shock as other rides I do. At most I think I would add a half width spacer, but a few more rides are needed to tell.

    The damping adjustments are factory defaults and it rode OK, another I will need a few more rides to tell.

    As it is, it seems more plush on the little stuff than the CTD I took off ( I do like the CTD ). The CTD is now on my 2004 Enduro Expert.

    So far, happy with the DBair IL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel_l View Post
    looks to me the LCFS705 is slightly different, maybe updated? The rear triangle is different, the top tube looks different, and the head angle is relaxed ( what some of us did using an offset headset ).

    It's a good price on the S7 and I have been very pleased with mine.

    Joel
    Got a couple of questions for you Joel since you are very active in th forum.

    1) What's the actual head angle of your fork when your bike is balanced on flat ground? Reason why I ask is because this local company using this open mold is listing 66 HA on their site, but everyone of these frames is listing 68 or 68.5 on large/XL.

    2) what size frame do you have? I need something along the lines of 66-65HA with or without angleset.

    I am looking for something like the P9 or LCFS705 but they are both not available directly to consumers.

    thank you,
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    Mine is a large so stock is 68.5*. I put a 1.5* angle set on and this brought it to and actual HA of about 67.5*. The Cane Creek web site has a decent tool to let you know what to expect.

    The bike with the relatively steep HA still rides nice. I am currently looking for something else to try. All my bikes have been pretty steep so far. Now want to try something on the slack end.

    If someone has this frame with a slacker HA, it should be pretty nice. At 66* you could go +/- with an angle set to suite your needs

    Joel

    Quote Originally Posted by ijak View Post
    Got a couple of questions for you Joel since you are very active in th forum.

    1) What's the actual head angle of your fork when your bike is balanced on flat ground? Reason why I ask is because this local company using this open mold is listing 66 HA on their site, but everyone of these frames is listing 68 or 68.5 on large/XL.


    2) what size frame do you have? I need something along the lines of 66-65HA with or without angleset.

    I am looking for something like the P9 or LCFS705 but they are both not available directly to consumers.

    thank you,
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyfloyd View Post
    Yea I was wanting someone to buy one and tell me how great it is, so i can buy one. lol. It does look like Pivot and SC got in bed and made a kid together.
    Ewww

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    It's actually a nice riding bike at a good price point. KHS has a model, sixfifty 6700 I think, that seems to be this frame. All specs are the same. It may have an older geometry but still rides nice. I am building a different bike now that has a slaker HA. I'll see if it really makes a difference.

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    Took my "Chinarello" (I'm going to need to come up with a better nickname for a mountain bike though) out to Whistler bike park last weekend and it's actually a very capable bike once dialled in. I wouldn't take it down something like Schleyer or Dirt Merchant but it does inspire enough confidence to roll through the blue trails and easier blacks (minus the step up on Freight Train but that's more of a skill/confidence thing on my part, I wouldn't be able have enough confidence to hit that even on a Sanction, Slash, or Demo).

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    many new frame and paint photo . please check WEB: TanTan Sports Equipment Co.,LTD

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    I'm selling my FM336 Frame. I do more road biking than MTB so it's not worth it for me to keep a MTB around.

    -19" frame
    -Matte black
    -Comes with drop out and a new set of pivot bolts

    $400 takes it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel_l View Post
    Mine is a large so stock is 68.5*. I put a 1.5* angle set on and this brought it to and actual HA of about 67.5*. The Cane Creek web site has a decent tool to let you know what to expect.

    The bike with the relatively steep HA still rides nice. I am currently looking for something else to try. All my bikes have been pretty steep so far. Now want to try something on the slack end.

    If someone has this frame with a slacker HA, it should be pretty nice. At 66* you could go +/- with an angle set to suite your needs

    Joel
    Where did you get an Angleset which fits into an integrated (tapered) head tube? I can't find an Angleset which will work on Ican bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endo_alley View Post
    Where did you get an Angleset which fits into an integrated (tapered) head tube? I can't find an Angleset which will work on Ican bikes.
    Either works components or Superstar components do them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Either works components or Superstar components do them.

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    Excellent. I have been looking for a set of Angleset headsets for two Ican bikes. An Ican P-8, and a SNO-4. These have 42mm/52mm tapered bores in the head tube. Going to a 1.125" / 1.5" tapered steerer tube. Cane Creek told me I was out of luck because of the odd sizing. If this works out you really made my day.

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    How are people using a press-in headset on a frame that uses a drop-in headset?

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    I found this on Works Components. Is this (2 degree offset ) or the similar (1 degree offset) the product you were referring to?
    2.0 Degree EC44-ZS55 Angle Headset - To Suit Tapered Steerer Tube

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    Quote Originally Posted by endo_alley View Post
    I found this on Works Components. Is this (2 degree offset ) or the similar (1 degree offset) the product you were referring to?
    2.0 Degree EC44-ZS55 Angle Headset - To Suit Tapered Steerer Tube
    Unless I'm mistaken, this is a pressfit headset.

    It's not going to work on a drop-in frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, this is a pressfit headset.

    It's not going to work on a drop-in frame.

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    Bummer. Still people say they have made it work. Maybe if I cross my fingers just for luck?

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    I'll see if I can find a picture of mine.

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    If you look inside it tells you the ones you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    How are people using a press-in headset on a frame that uses a drop-in headset?

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    The cups come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post

    If you look inside it tells you the ones you need.

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    This says EC44/ ZS56. I don't see how it will fit in an Ican frame with a 42mm/52mm integrated head tube bore. Are you sure this works on an Ican frame?

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    The cups come out of the frame, I used it in the S7 ican

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    The cups come out of the frame, I used it in the S7 ican

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    Aren't the cups the thing which gives the Angleset it's offset. I guess I am not sure what you are talking about when you say the cups come out of the frame. Since the cups are part of the Angleset. Not the frame.

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    I have a Cane Creek EC44/EC56 Angleset. There is no way it will fit on either Ican frame (w/ integrated headset bore) that I own. Do you get the head tube bored out larger at a machine shop?

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    Post a picture of your frame and the head tube, I'll try and see if I can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Post a picture of your frame and the head tube, I'll try and see if I can help.

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    Thanks for your interest.
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    I just tried using an old shock that I had around. It is a 190mm x 51mm Fox Float. This appears to have slackened it a little. The BB height is now at about 12 7/8", down from maybe 13 1/8" . And the seat angle has slackened a little. But sill doable. I probably need to remove some stem spacers now. I am wondering if maybe your S-7 frame has a different head tube bore than all of the other Ican frames.

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    Won't that really lower the BB height?

    Don't suppose you have a picture of the head tube without the headset in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Won't that really lower the BB height?

    Don't suppose you have a picture of the head tube without the headset in it?

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    It would require pulling everything apart. What should I be looking for? There was no removable insert in the head tube. It was cut to accept an integrated bearing/ headset directly ... "Won't that really lower the BB height?" Yes. You can you read that in my post.

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    The Ican website- S-7 entry states " Headset H212 special for S7 ". I don't know what the H212 headset is. But it may be different than the headset arrangement on other Ican bikes. Bummer. Damn.

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    My S7 came with 44/56 head tube bores, no insert. The Works or Cane Creek 44/56 headsets work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endo_alley View Post
    Where did you get an Angleset which fits into an integrated (tapered) head tube? I can't find an Angleset which will work on Ican bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel_l View Post
    My S7 came with 44/56 head tube bores, no insert. The Works or Cane Creek 44/56 headsets work fine.

    Joel
    Thanks. I guess this is settled then. The other Ican bikes which I have tried (P-8, Sno-4) will not use a 44mm/ 56mm headset. I am hereby heart broken.

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    I just looked at a P8 frame and it looks the same to me. It might be worth sending an email to ICAN and see what they have to say. Is it just a ZS headset already pressed in?

    Anyway, my experience with ICAN is they are good to deal with and respond quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel_l View Post
    I just looked at a P8 frame and it looks the same to me. It might be worth sending an email to ICAN and see what they have to say. Is it just a ZS headset already pressed in?

    Anyway, my experience with ICAN is they are good to deal with and respond quickly.
    P8 Is an integrated headset like on many road bikes. Bearing race drops in without need for a cup press. 42mm/52mm. 44/56 wont fit. Too narrow a bore.

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    Hi, I'm planning of buying this frame : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/full...773560762.html

    It's the same frame as the ones in the thread, but I thonk they've improved it, as the one of lasseB. For exemple, it is 12x148 rear axle. I hope the quality will be there. It is a project for february 2018, i think.
    I would like to do a setup with this config :
    140mm fox factory fork
    200*21 rockshox monarch plus shox
    GX Eagle 1x12 groupset
    Slx M7000 or XT M7000 brakes
    American classic wide lightning wheels ( 30mm )
    150mm dropper post
    aliexpress handlebar, stem and saddle
    And I don't know which headset should I buy, external headset ? Or i can mount any tapered HS ?

    Thanks

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    Looks the same as the older S7/FM336 except for the boost rear. Depending on your use for it, you are going to make an already steep H.A. even steeper with the short fork. You will also lower the BB height, but these frames have plenty, so this will probably be a non issue.

    I'm not sure what else might have changed, they are spec'ing a 200x21 shock as you are looking at, I run a 200x57 on my S7. Maybe something else changed when they went boost.

    Looks like in a couple days you will get a pretty good deal.

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    Here are some pics of what it looks like. Installed is on my ICAN S7

    China Carbon AM Duallies-20171109_072200.jpg

    China Carbon AM Duallies-20171109_072330.jpg

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    Yes, it will depends of my luck to find a fox kashima at a great price lol so maybe 140 or 150mm for the fork
    But i think i'll stay on a 200*51 shock, I don't want to take some risks.
    And 630$ for the frame, it's a great deal, but I haven't the time ( and money lol ) to start my project now

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    The inside of the P8 and SNO4 head tube have a widened edge bore (42mm top /52mm bottom) with a 45 degree chamfer to seat the bearings. Much like the way a normal cup is cut to seat the bearing race. The inner bore is a bit narrower. So this cup with a 90 degree square cut will not fit in the bore even if it were the right size. Which it is not. Your S7 appears to be manufactured like most other modern mtb where the headset cups are pressed in. The P8 has an inner surface similar to that of the cups built into the head tube.

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    Here is my reply from Works Components "Sorry, we don't have a headset to fit fully IS headtubes as the bearings drop directly into the frame.
    Thanks, regards, Rick - Works Components "

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    Hello, does anyone have this frame or have tried?:

    Enduro Frame P9 - Shenzhen ICAN Sports Equipment Co., Ltd.


    I've seen some bike for Enduro in Google, but I have not talked to anyone who has it this frame.


    I would like to mount the following:

    - Rock Shox Lyrik RCT3 170mm
    - Rock Shox Super Deluxe Coil RCT
    - SRAM XO Eagle 1x12
    - SRAM Guide Ultimate
    - 203mm Front & 180mm Rear
    - Hope W35 Tech



    Thanks! .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gontxo_nos View Post
    Hello, does anyone have this frame or have tried?:

    Enduro Frame P9 - Shenzhen ICAN Sports Equipment Co., Ltd.


    I've seen some bike for Enduro in Google, but I have not talked to anyone who has it this frame.


    I would like to mount the following:

    - Rock Shox Lyrik RCT3 170mm
    - Rock Shox Super Deluxe Coil RCT
    - SRAM XO Eagle 1x12
    - SRAM Guide Ultimate
    - 203mm Front & 180mm Rear
    - Hope W35 Tech



    Thanks! .
    It says OEM and Distributor only. Looks good though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pvflyer View Post
    It says OEM and Distributor only. Looks good though.
    Yes, I already know that, jejeje.


    I'd just like to know the quality of this frame. If it is a good frame or not worth buying. Is for know if this frame with the long time have any loosenes or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gontxo_nos View Post
    Yes, I already know that, jejeje.


    I'd just like to know the quality of this frame. If it is a good frame or not worth buying. Is for know if this frame with the long time have any loosenes or something...
    I don't know about the P-9. But I have a P-8, and a Sno-4 frame built up. and both are great bikes with sturdy frames. As long as the geometry and design are what you are looking for in a bike. I wouldn't think twice about building that bike up if that is what I was looking for.

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    I would love to fins a source for that P-9. It looks amazing.
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