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    Changing the name of the forum to 27.5

    Looks like battle has been won and this new wheel size is going to be called 27.5 by the vast majority in the future.

    To help the unification and to avoid confusing readers, we're planning on renaming this forum to 27.5.

    Good idea, bad idea? I'd also like to suggest to everyone to start using 27.5. It's just so much easier moving forward.

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    Simpler for sure, 650b for nostalgia

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    My norco killer b is sure to have an identity crisis

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    Jamis is still using 650b. They started early and still use the term. If the term is in use, it should remain.

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    I think the should be called 27.5ers

    Seriously, 650b rolls off the tongue better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    to help the unification and to avoid confusing readers, we're planning on renaming this forum to 27.5.
    the horror
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    What about sixfiddy, 6fiddy or 55/2?

    Who cares, its 6 of one or half dozen of another (650 of one or 27.5 of another).

    Some think anything but 26 is gay!

    Not that there's anything wrong with that

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    Those who are late to the party are calling it 27.5. 650b is more distinctive. It's what we've always called it on this forum. I vote we leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael9218 View Post
    650b is more distinctive.
    ...and more Euro, which has to count for something.
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    Today I typically say "650b" but 27.5 is the way I thought of it from the beginning (July 2007).
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    Go with it, I've changed to 27.5 when I refer to the wheel size.

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    Leave it as is for at least another year. I am a 650b diehard.

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    Keep 650b. I think only a certain country in North America calls em 27.5.

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    6 fiddy.

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    It's currently called the 650b/ 27.5 forum, is there something wrong with continuing to use both for now?

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    My new Hans Ds read 27.5 so Schwable knows whats up. The industry seems to be slowly getting away from "650b" due to new comers being a bit confused.

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    Nothing wrong with an increased vocabulary and understanding. Leave it.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    I vote to leave it as it is. MTBR should continue to strive to lift itself above the mainstream ignorance and marketing gumpf.

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    why are mountain bikes broken out by wheelsize in the first place?

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    I'm not going to stop calling them 650Bs. If a mega tire maker like Kenda or Schwalbe can label their tires as 650B and 27.5 at the same time then I don't see why the forum can't remain named as it is. Especially since only a handful of tire models for the wheelsize actually measure out to 27.5". Calling it that made sense when there was only ONE tire option available. There are dozens of options now and there are examples closer to 27.2" as well as some pushing into the 28er range.
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    27.5 Bikes

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    I vote 27.5

    Typical conversation...

    dude looking at my wheels: Whats with the wheels?

    me: 650b

    dude: 650 wha?

    me: 27.5"

    dude: oh

    So now I just say 27.5 from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill-Pumper View Post
    It's currently called the 650b/ 27.5 forum, is there something wrong with continuing to use both for now?
    +1 - Nope. If people can't figure that out they shouldn't be allowed to ride 'em or read about 'em.
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    ^this

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    You could name it 584 and be both trendy and accurate.

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    You could always rename it "the best wheelsize" because that is what it is. At least that is what marketing departments are telling me.

    Or possibly "26" wheel replacement"
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    "the best wheelsize" ...possibly, but subjective

    "26 wheel replacement" ...No.

    584 ...ok, but then all other wheel sizes should be so named and good luck with that.

    Juan Carlos ...hmm, maybe we're on to something here...
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    *sigh*

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    650b is the name, 27.5 is the johnny come late to the party to vapid to understand name.
    Leave it 650b please.
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    650b seems to be what people are calling it around here (North shore). I vote leave it alone.

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    Makes more sense. New to the sport riders have 26 and 29ers . 27.7 is easier to explain.

    Plus Giant specified that all the tires they buy say 27.5.....

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    To me 650b sounds a lot better than 27.5

    Don't really care what they call it though.

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    I think it is a bad idea to remove 650B as having both in the name will kinda clarify what 650B is to someone who doesn't know etc (being the same as 27.5).

    Plus 650B is way nicer to say.

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    In another thread, I got talked into simply: 27". Not on the theory that they measure 27" with the tire mounted ( they don't; 27.5" holds consistently with different rims, tires and tire sizes), but because so called 26" wheels are also closer to 26.5" but called 26" for the sake of simplicity, so why not use the same abbreviation for the tweener? 26, 27, and 29 is internally consistent and simple & still illustrative of "small", "medium" and "large" wheels. Decimal not only inelegant and cumbersome, but inaccurately puts the tweener wheel in the exact middle of the three nominal sizes. As various OCD math geeks and engineers have so often, insistently (and pointlessly) argued over and over in this and other forums, the tweener wheel really IS closer to (so called) 26 than 29 and is NOT EXACTLY in the middle, for whatever that fact is worth in actual performance.

    27", though used by Scott, is a losing argument, I admit, so it looks like 27.5" is the best compromise and pretty much a fait accompli & used by most bike and component companies anyway.

    Gotta admit, too, whatever designation is used is a triviality not worth getting panties in a bunch. Unless you have an entire run of frames, forks, tires or rims already produced with one or an other label already painted, decaled, clear coated, imprinted or embossed. The public will figure it out whichever. "In between" not a difficult concept to understand and all that is necessary to convey. From there, you can market Goldilocks, happy medium, perfect balance, best of both or whatever, and the haters can retreat to their caves and stew about how much they actually suck in comparison to whatever wheels cooler, better, and smarter riders ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill-Pumper View Post
    It's currently called the 650b/ 27.5 forum, is there something wrong with continuing to use both for now?
    +1 I think it will be easier for folks new to the sport to search for info and get up to speed if it keeps it's current moniker.

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    No good Why Why Why?

    Why try to change the wheel? 650B is 650B!



    Why are People saying that they DO NOT make or sale 650B? when 27.1's (27.5") are all 650B

    650B are a good size for Cycle Touring and Small People (under 5 foot)

    O' and to sale more Bicycles

    Just waiting for 24" Mountain Bikes to come back

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    Maybe reverse the name to 27.5/650b? I also think keeping both for now is a good idea.

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    [QUOTE=Hill-Pumper;10717997 is there something wrong with continuing to use both for now?[/QUOTE]

    It strains the mtbr servers a bit too much.
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    Man...I just replaced my "29ers 4 Life" face tattoo with "650b 4 Life"....crap...now I will have to get that removed. Also, the "650b Life" giant rear window sticker on my car will need to get replaced. Sheesh.
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    With the trend for most bike companies switching to mostly 27.5/650b frames, maybe the discussion should be about losing this forum altogether and starting a 26er forum for those of us holding onto our dinosaurs.

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    Whether it is 650B or 27.5 please don't add er to the end. I can not stand it when people say "26er"...that is goofy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrocks View Post
    Whether it is 650B or 27.5 please don't add er to the end. I can not stand it when people say "26er"...that is goofy.
    +1

    I still like 650B the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    In another thread, I got talked into simply: 27". Not on the theory that they measure 27" with the tire mounted ( they don't; 27.5" holds consistently with different rims, tires and tire sizes), but because so called 26" wheels are also closer to 26.5" but called 26" for the sake of simplicity, so why not use the same abbreviation for the tweener? 26, 27, and 29 is internally consistent and simple & still illustrative of "small", "medium" and "large" wheels. Decimal not only inelegant and cumbersome, but inaccurately puts the tweener wheel in the exact middle of the three nominal sizes. As various OCD math geeks and engineers have so often, insistently (and pointlessly) argued over and over in this and other forums, the tweener wheel really IS closer to (so called) 26 than 29 and is NOT EXACTLY in the middle, for whatever that fact is worth in actual performance.

    27", though used by Scott, is a losing argument, I admit, so it looks like 27.5" is the best compromise and pretty much a fait accompli & used by most bike and component companies anyway.
    27" is already a wheel size, and has been for decades. In fact, an old 27" wheel is slightly larger than a 28"/700c wheel.

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    Yo B, Keep it 650b, B!

    27.5 is for rednecks and imperialists who cant/wont rekanize the metric system.

    26er and 29ers can keep their inch standards. We who ride 650b are special and have the right to rub it in everyone’s faces. We are the music makers, the trend-setters and innovators and we have every right not to conform. Oh and while we are at it can we please start measuring mtb components in grams, not more of this oz and pounds nonsense!

    Truth b told I call them 275 every now and then, it’s the dumbed down version of 650b. Please don’t dumb things down for the simpletons. They will both be around for a while, alas in the end I fear 275 will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    ...and more Euro, which has to count for something.
    Only if your are a roadie.
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    I am just so over the Imperial system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    It strains the mtbr servers a bit too much.
    Dopey me, what was I thinking? I'll have to come clean, I want to keep the 650B term around for selfish reasons. I own a Norco Killer B which of course refers to the 650B. Killer B sounds cool and mean. Killer 27.5, well ......not so cool and mean.

    Now for a crazy idea. How about having both, a 650B AND 27.5 forum. I know this will cause more strain on the server, but MTBR can double up on advertising space because of the confusion.

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    Changing the name of the forum to 27.5

    Quote Originally Posted by john.b View Post
    27" is already a wheel size, and has been for decades. In fact, an old 27" wheel is slightly larger than a 28"/700c wheel.
    For that matter, 650b is also an existing size and has been for decades.

    Therefore, 27.5 it is, as the most accurate number not already taken by some other application
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    For that matter, 650b is also an existing size and has been for decades.
    But aren't the "new" 650b and "old" 650b sizes the same: 584 mm BSD? <shrug>

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    Changing the name of the forum to 27.5

    In my opinion, Cousin Oliver, was just added to this forum to try and extend its life.
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