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    Canyon...smokin values?

    anyone besides Fabian Barel in the US rocking a Canyon? From what I understand they are growing a ton in Europe. The 2014 Nerve and Spectral seem to be stellar values. XO1 for 3500 is crazy. The build spec values are absolutely smokin! Anyone have feedback?


    Spectral 27.5 - $3,529
    Canyon | Mountainbikes | Spectral AL 9.0 EX


    Nerve 27.5 - $2,959
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    In Sweden Canyon is a well established brand.
    Bikes have perfekt build finish, top quality parts / paint job etc. etc.

    The big thing is that there is no LBS to help with issues.
    Thats the catch/pro as Canyons business idea is to cut at least one line in distribution.

    You get the bike in a box and you have to put the last things togehter yourself.
    If you are confident in the garage then go for it, if you do want help in the long run with bleeding brakes, changeing break pads, tuneing gears then you are a target customer.
    If not I'd advise to have a LBS handy.

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    Great deal, except for the part where it says on the site:
    "Unfortunately, we do not ship to your country."
    Unfortunately indeed. Thanks, Specialized!

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    They're definitely one of the brands I'm considering to buy from when buying a 'cheap' trailbike over the winter.

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    I guess if you have a middle man over in Europe, you could get one over here, seen Canyon road bikes over here. As much as I hate Specialized, and being a holder of several patents myself, I understand and stand behind Specialized as far as them standing behind their patents.
    Wish some of these companies could either pay for the licensing rights to use some of those suspension designs, in which case I'd use the DW link, instead of a 4 bar, or develop their own, that way it would open up the US market, which would easily wash away any investment in licensing fees.

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    Canyons are very popular here in Europe. Their pricing beats almost everything. Basically you pay for the components and get the frame for free.

    As for that Horst-Link patent, that must be expired by now. Or do patents have a longer lifespan in the States. Over here in Europe the max is 20 years.

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    how do their mid travel bikes pedal? I really enjoy the snappiness of DW-link, but these appear to be horst link bikes?

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    The Horst Link patent expired this year which is why brands like Lapierre are coming to the US. So that shouldn't be holding them back.

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    Canyon...smokin values?

    The Expiration date of Spec's FSR, 4 bar Horst link suspension patent apparently is debatable. It either expired in April 2013 or it lasts until September, 2014

    http://patents.stackexchange.com/que...nsion-affect-p

    Clearly, Spec will argue the later date so there is open question whether they will go after Lapierre, Canyon
    or whoever jumps the gun in early 2014. As has been said, their track record is go for the jugular. We'll see.

    No doubt US consumers will see more selection once the patent finally does expire. Good thing.
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    Canyon...smokin values?

    A lot of Canyon in Spain...

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    So my friend just stripped down his Canyon Torque so he can paint it another color plus do a full service and he too has pivot play. Another friend of mine has sent his back to Canyon 3 times last year for the same problem. After checking one of the German speaking MTB forums this seems to be a wide spread problem. It seems the Torque has a life cycle of ride it a few weeks, send it in and wait for it to return in a few weeks, ride it a few weeks, send it back in. Rinse and repeat.

    Edit: Canyon will not send you the new pivot, you have to ship the frame to Canyon on your cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4jeepin View Post
    The Horst Link patent expired this year which is why brands like Lapierre are coming to the US. So that shouldn't be holding them back.
    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    The Expiration date of Spec's FSR, 4 bar Horst link suspension patent apparently is debatable. It either expired in April 2013 or it lasts until September, 2014

    patentability - Does the US Only patent on the four bar linkage (Horst link) suspension affect popular mountain bikes in the US? - Ask Patents

    Clearly, Spec will argue the later date so there is open question whether they will go after Lapierre, Canyon
    or whoever jumps the gun in early 2014. As has been said, their track record is go for the jugular. We'll see.

    No doubt US consumers will see more selection once the patent finally does expire. Good thing.
    I emailed them mention the expiration of the patent and they replied that they have no plans to sell in the US
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    I emailed them mention the expiration of the patent and they replied that they have no plans to sell in the US
    Well that sucks
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    I just bought a Canyon frame and can't wait to build it up!!!! I have not seen a Canyon 29er on trails in the US, so I can't wait to show mine off!!!!

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    How about this new Canyon Spectral al 7.0 EX for 2399euro? Amazing value for money! Pike, debon air, X1, sram guide R, reverb stealth++

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    Canyon...smokin values?

    Yeah, crazy bike for that money. I'm gonna buy the 8.0 EX that comes with CC Inline, Renthal bar/stem and better wheels. The only thing I will upgrade is a smaller front ring and the Inline remote when it comes out. 3300€ and 12,5kg


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    I heard if you buy one in the U.S., Sonya Looney personally delivers it.
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    There has been a bunch of Canyon "reviews" in US mags of late teasing us with bikes we can't get......yet. So any word on when Canyon will legitimately enter the US market?

    I could very easily see me selling my SC Tallboy LTc and getting a 2015 spec Lux CF for local trails and a Strive CF for the rocky stuff. I would think that would be a combination

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    Canyon...smokin values?

    Here's my new bike, size Large. Gone tubeless and put a pair of CB Candy 3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by molopoko View Post
    Here's my new bike, size Large. Gone tubeless and put a pair of CB Candy 3.

    Looks good Molopoko. Can I ask - how tall are you? And did you find the Canyon sizing tool useful?
    I have shortish legs & arms but a long back, and I should probably be on an XL. But the reach measurement on the L is very long, and the XL has a ridiculous 170mm head-tube height that puts me off. Nobody needs a 170mm head tube on a 650b trail bike with a 150mm fork...

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    Canyon...smokin values?

    I have long legs. 178cm and 88 inseam. The sizing tool was telling me to take a Medium but i picked Large. I have replaced the stock 50mm stem for a 30mm and i feel great no the bike, even after long rides. I have been six days at Ainsa (Spain) riding every day and i feel great. I'm amazed of how easy it is to carry speed, a lot better than my 2012 SJumper. Also great at low speed handling on technical stuff.

    Some more pics of that travel:






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    just realized that Canyon is internet sell direct. Do nit know anything about their bikes, but that is th future of bike distribution. One of the well known brands in the USA will start doing it and then they will all follow. Currently the ones in the USA that I can think of are airborne and bikes direct. Probably others, too

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    those knee protectors are ultra gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBzon View Post
    those knee protectors are ultra gay
    Gay? Are you 12? Step away from the homophobia flannel boy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjsb View Post
    just realized that Canyon is internet sell direct. Do nit know anything about their bikes, but that is th future of bike distribution. One of the well known brands in the USA will start doing it and then they will all follow. Currently the ones in the USA that I can think of are airborne and bikes direct. Probably others, too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haggis View Post
    Gay? Are you 12? Step away from the homophobia flannel boy...
    So gay.

    Nice to stereotype flannel wearing people as homophob's.... Another hypocritical lib.
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    So gay.

    Nice to stereotype flannel wearing people as homophob's.... Another hypocritical lib.
    So ignorant. It's not the clothing, it's the I.Q.

    Question: was the person who punched your lights out wearing Kneepads or flannel?
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    Canyon...smokin values?

    As far as I know, the patent has expired. Any news out of Canyon for bikes in the US?

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    So long Specialized. Ordering a Spectral right now,tested a friend of mine one's and loved it. Great suspension and no Brain in the way..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    So long Specialized. Ordering a Spectral right now,tested a friend of mine one's and loved it. Great suspension and no Brain in the way..
    You're ordering one for import into the US or elsewhere?

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    Well, you can order one if you are in Brunei, East Timor, Bulgaria or 50 other countries, but not the US, at least according to their Web site. Although Mexico is listed, Canada is not.

    Supposedly the Horst Link patent expired in Fall 2014.
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    I posted a review of my Spectral a while back, still love it.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/27-5/canyon-s...l#post11163338

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    Well, you can order one if you are in Brunei, East Timor, Bulgaria or 50 other countries, but not the US, at least according to their Web site. Although Mexico is listed, Canada is not.

    Supposedly the Horst Link patent expired in Fall 2014.
    I doubt it has anything to do with the patent.Along with most of the German direct sales companies they will not deliver complete bikes here to New Zealand either. Probably more to do with their distribution network or shipping agents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by molopoko View Post
    I have long legs. 178cm and 88 inseam. The sizing tool was telling me to take a Medium but i picked Large. I have replaced the stock 50mm stem for a 30mm and i feel great no the bike, even after long rides. I have been six days at Ainsa (Spain) riding every day and i feel great. I'm amazed of how easy it is to carry speed, a lot better than my 2012 SJumper. Also great at low speed handling on technical stuff.

    Some more pics of that travel:





    Thanks for posting the pics and the "review". I have mine in the UPS truck at the moment. Monday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    So ignorant. It's not the clothing, it's the I.Q.

    Question: was the person who punched your lights out wearing Kneepads or flannel?
    Wooohhhaaaa... hahahahahaa. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNormsk View Post
    You're ordering one for import into the US or elsewhere?
    Nope,I live in Italy. Got the bike 3 weeks ago. Honestly speaking best mtb ever owned. And i've been through some fancy carbon and fancy specs from Specialized and other brands. I'm sold to Canyon.
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    I'm tempted to have my friend's dad in Stuttgart order one for me and then send it to me UPS. Or someone I know in Mexico. Would it be that easy?

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    Yeah those bikes are damn popular in EU especialy Strive.Right now there are quite alot of them in Poland.But the cash to build kit is just too good to beat it so i guess it's no wonder especialy that brands like Specialized,Trek,Yeti or Santa Cruz are damn expensive to a point where i need to pay 4,5k Euro for SB6c frame (lol).

    I still have 3 weeks till mine Strive will come...;/

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